Re: Mac OS X LilyPond & Terminal install problems.

2009-06-05 Thread James E. Bailey
If you're absolutely brand new to lilypond, using the terminal may  
not be the best solution. Unless you are very familiar with terminal  
applications, in which case, I would suggest the instructions in the  
documentation at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/ 
lilypond-program/Setup-for-MacOS-X#Setup-for-MacOS-X for setting up  
lilypond, otherwise, I would suggest that as a completely new person  
to lilypond, you start with jedit and lilypondtool. It's probably  
more along the lines of what you're looking for. More information can  
be found here: http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/


Also, I would suggest starting reading the learning manual, it's  
designed as a do-it-yourself course in how lilypond works, and how to  
typeset your music with lilypond.


Good luck!


Am 06.06.2009 um 05:45 schrieb kje...@u.washington.edu:

I attempted to follow instruction set C for LilyPond & Terminal  
install on Mac

OS X Leopard. I've run into problems.

"Download the latest stable release (2.12.2-1) of LilyPond and put  
LilyPond.app

in your Applications folder."

Check.

"Download this shell script and start it using Terminal."

I right-clicked and Saved Link As... lilypondshscript to my Desktop  
without
appending any file extension. I wasn't having any success "starting  
it using
Terminal" until, eventually, I found instructions online for the  
syntax for

running a non-executable sh script.

Upon doing so, a "Drop your LilyPond source file here and press Enter"
instruction line appeared.

I assume that the instructions online mean this same file when it  
says: "Drop

your .ly file into the Terminal window and follow the instructions."

There are no instructions online regarding the location of this .ly  
source file.
I right-clicked and selected Show Package Contents on the LilyPond  
icon in my
Applications folder. After poking around through it and trying  
different things,

I eventually came across an .ly file.

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond- 
MacOS.ly


I dragged this file to the terminal window (its path appeared) and  
hit enter.

Here is my Terminal printout:

Macintosh:~ kjell$ sh /Users/kjell/Desktop/lilypondshscript


Drop your LilyPond source file here and press Enter

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond- 
MacOS.ly GNU LilyPond 2.12.2
Changing working directory to: `/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/ 
Resources'

Processing
`/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond- 
MacOS.ly'

Parsing...
Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ps'...
Converting to `./Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.pdf'...
The file
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources//Welcome-to-LilyPond- 
MacOS.midi

does not exist.

Continue to work. When finished, save your document and choose :

Refresh: 1
Quit: 2

Very encouragingly, a pdf file with "A scale in LilyPond" header  
and picture of

an ascending c scale popped up. But then nothing else.

Once I realized I could click on the notes, I tried that. A new  
window appeared

with the following content:

%{
Welcome to LilyPond
===

Congratulations, LilyPond has been installed successfully.

Now to take it for the first test run.

  1. Save this file

  2. Select

   Compile > Typeset file

  from the menu.

  The file is processed, and

  3.  The PDF viewer will pop up. Click one of the noteheads.

That's it.  For more information, visit http://lilypond.org .

%}

\header{
  title = "A scale in LilyPond"
}

\relative {
  c d e f g a b c
}

\version "2.12.2"  % necessary for upgrading to future LilyPond  
versions.


But there appears to be no menu, drop down or otherwise, in  
LilyPond and thus no
way to save, compile, or do much of anything, besides type  
pointlessly in a
blank window (Furthermore, the only way to stop LilyPond from  
appearing as an

active program is to Force Quit it).

I closed the Welcome to LilyPond window and decided to see if  
double-clicking
the LilyPond icon could accomplish anything new. A blank, Untitled  
window
appeared that I was able to type in and save(!), but again, no way  
to compile it

and no menu of anything to access.

So what's going on? Please assist.



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Re: Mac OS X LilyPond & Terminal install problems.

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp

comments at bottom...

kje...@u.washington.edu wrote:
I attempted to follow instruction set C for LilyPond & Terminal install 
on Mac

OS X Leopard. I've run into problems.

"Download the latest stable release (2.12.2-1) of LilyPond and put 
LilyPond.app

in your Applications folder."

Check.

"Download this shell script and start it using Terminal."

I right-clicked and Saved Link As... lilypondshscript to my Desktop without
appending any file extension. I wasn't having any success "starting it 
using

Terminal" until, eventually, I found instructions online for the syntax for
running a non-executable sh script.

Upon doing so, a "Drop your LilyPond source file here and press Enter"
instruction line appeared.

I assume that the instructions online mean this same file when it says: 
"Drop

your .ly file into the Terminal window and follow the instructions."

There are no instructions online regarding the location of this .ly 
source file.
I right-clicked and selected Show Package Contents on the LilyPond icon 
in my
Applications folder. After poking around through it and trying different 
things,

I eventually came across an .ly file.

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ly

I dragged this file to the terminal window (its path appeared) and hit 
enter.

Here is my Terminal printout:

Macintosh:~ kjell$ sh /Users/kjell/Desktop/lilypondshscript


Drop your LilyPond source file here and press Enter

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ly 
GNU LilyPond 2.12.2
Changing working directory to: 
`/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources'

Processing
`/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ly' 


Parsing...
Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ps'...
Converting to `./Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.pdf'...
The file
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources//Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.midi 


does not exist.

Continue to work. When finished, save your document and choose :

Refresh: 1
Quit: 2

Very encouragingly, a pdf file with "A scale in LilyPond" header and 
picture of

an ascending c scale popped up. But then nothing else.

Once I realized I could click on the notes, I tried that. A new window 
appeared

with the following content:

%{
Welcome to LilyPond
===

Congratulations, LilyPond has been installed successfully.

Now to take it for the first test run.

  1. Save this file

  2. Select

   Compile > Typeset file

  from the menu.

  The file is processed, and

  3.  The PDF viewer will pop up. Click one of the noteheads.

That's it.  For more information, visit http://lilypond.org .

%}

\header{
  title = "A scale in LilyPond"
}

\relative {
  c d e f g a b c
}

\version "2.12.2"  % necessary for upgrading to future LilyPond versions.

But there appears to be no menu, drop down or otherwise, in LilyPond and 
thus no

way to save, compile, or do much of anything, besides type pointlessly in a
blank window (Furthermore, the only way to stop LilyPond from appearing 
as an

active program is to Force Quit it).

I closed the Welcome to LilyPond window and decided to see if 
double-clicking

the LilyPond icon could accomplish anything new. A blank, Untitled window
appeared that I was able to type in and save(!), but again, no way to 
compile it

and no menu of anything to access.

So what's going on? Please assist.



I had never heard of this method until your email arrived, but I 
tried it out and I understand how it's supposed to work. From what 
you said it seems to be working just right. First question, 
though, is this your first time to use Lilypond?  If so then you 
have to understand that it's a very different program from what 
you may be used to, inasmuch as you create your scores by writing 
source code in plain text files, which are saved with the 
extension .ly (that's why it said to drop your .ly source file 
here). I'm guessing that the blank window that was open was an 
editor window. If not, then you would need to open a text editor 
and write some code in there and save it as something like 
"test.ly".  You can use mac's TextEdit application, but I'd 
recommend something more robust like Smultron, which is free. 
Open up an editor (not a word processor) and save this code with a 
filename of your choice having the .ly extension (best not to put 
spaces in the filename):


%% begin code

\version "2.12.1"

\relative c' { c d e f g a b c }

%% end code

Drop the file into the terminal window like you did before.  The 
way it works is that you keep your text editor window ope

PDFs for 2.13.1

2009-06-05 Thread Nick Payne
I have created a PDF portfolio with searchable index from the English
language PDF docs and uploaded it to
http://www.users.on.net/~njpayne/music/lilydoc.pdf (23Mb). Works fine for me
with Acrobat Reader 9 on both Windows and Linux.

Nick Payne



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Re: Mac OS X LilyPond & Terminal install problems.

2009-06-05 Thread Tim McNamara
I use 10.4 and LilyPond runs well there, but there is a lot of  
commentary on the Web that LilyPond is severely broken on 10.5.  I  
don't have a 10.5 machine to test (and frankly won't upgrade to 10.5  
until LilyPond is known to be stable and functional without a lot of  
drama).  Here's what may be a workaround that I found which will  
hopefully help:


http://hans.fugal.net/blog/2008/02/27/lilypond-on-leopard


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Mac OS X LilyPond & Terminal install problems.

2009-06-05 Thread kjellh

I attempted to follow instruction set C for LilyPond & Terminal install on Mac
OS X Leopard. I've run into problems.

"Download the latest stable release (2.12.2-1) of LilyPond and put LilyPond.app
in your Applications folder."

Check.

"Download this shell script and start it using Terminal."

I right-clicked and Saved Link As... lilypondshscript to my Desktop without
appending any file extension. I wasn't having any success "starting it using
Terminal" until, eventually, I found instructions online for the syntax for
running a non-executable sh script.

Upon doing so, a "Drop your LilyPond source file here and press Enter"
instruction line appeared.

I assume that the instructions online mean this same file when it says: "Drop
your .ly file into the Terminal window and follow the instructions."

There are no instructions online regarding the location of this .ly source file.
I right-clicked and selected Show Package Contents on the LilyPond icon in my
Applications folder. After poking around through it and trying different things,
I eventually came across an .ly file.

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ly

I dragged this file to the terminal window (its path appeared) and hit enter.
Here is my Terminal printout:

Macintosh:~ kjell$ sh /Users/kjell/Desktop/lilypondshscript


Drop your LilyPond source file here and press Enter

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ly 
GNU LilyPond 2.12.2

Changing working directory to: `/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources'
Processing
`/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... 
Preprocessing graphical objects...

Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ps'...
Converting to `./Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.pdf'...
The file
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources//Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.midi
does not exist.

Continue to work. When finished, save your document and choose :

Refresh: 1
Quit: 2

Very encouragingly, a pdf file with "A scale in LilyPond" header and picture of
an ascending c scale popped up. But then nothing else.

Once I realized I could click on the notes, I tried that. A new window appeared
with the following content:

%{
Welcome to LilyPond
===

Congratulations, LilyPond has been installed successfully.

Now to take it for the first test run.

  1. Save this file

  2. Select

   Compile > Typeset file

  from the menu.

  The file is processed, and

  3.  The PDF viewer will pop up. Click one of the noteheads.

That's it.  For more information, visit http://lilypond.org .

%}

\header{
  title = "A scale in LilyPond"
}

\relative {
  c d e f g a b c
}

\version "2.12.2"  % necessary for upgrading to future LilyPond versions.

But there appears to be no menu, drop down or otherwise, in LilyPond and thus no
way to save, compile, or do much of anything, besides type pointlessly in a
blank window (Furthermore, the only way to stop LilyPond from appearing as an
active program is to Force Quit it).

I closed the Welcome to LilyPond window and decided to see if double-clicking
the LilyPond icon could accomplish anything new. A blank, Untitled window
appeared that I was able to type in and save(!), but again, no way to compile it
and no menu of anything to access.

So what's going on? Please assist.



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Re: unfoldRepeats for midi

2009-06-05 Thread Mark Polesky

Paul Scott wrote:
> 2.13.1
> I have read all of NR 3.5
> Should the following work to unfold the above repeats for a MIDI
> file?

I'm assuming you read this page:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond/Repeats-in-MIDI

Following the template provided there, I believe this should work:

\score {
  << { \unfoldRepeats \global } \melody >>
  \layout {
% layout stuff...
  }
}
\score {
  << { \unfoldRepeats \global } \melody >>
  \midi {
\context {
  \Score tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 120 4)
}
  }
}

Let me know if it doesn't. If it does, then the next question is:
Did you read NR 3.5.4 "Repeats in MIDI" and did you find it
confusing? If so, what exactly confused you? That way we can try
to make it clearer for future users, which is always important to
us!

HTH.
- Mark


  


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What can we do to get you back Atte? ;)

2009-06-05 Thread Grammostola Rosea

Atte,



You said, you didn't use Lilypond anymore? Why? Is there a way for the 
Lilypond devs to get you on the right road again? ;)



\r





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Re: Error in lilypond-book

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 Jonathan Kulp :

> I'm not sure what would cause the error but if you'd like me to try running
> it you can send me a tarball privately.
>
> Jon

Thank you. I have just tracked the problem and it's caused by this
line in the preamble:

\usepackage{tikz}

which is a pity because the tikz package is awesome. I have no idea
about how to debug the interaction between it and lilypond-book.

This minimal LaTeX file spits the error when I try to process it
through lilypond-book:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tikz}
\begin{document}
Hello
\end{document}


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unfoldRepeats for midi

2009-06-05 Thread Paul Scott

2.13.1

I have read all of NR 3.5

If I have this structure:
global = { \repeat volta 2 s1*6 \alternative { { s1*2 } { s1*2 } } }

Should the following work to unfold the above repeats for a MIDI file?

\score{
 \new Score{ << { \unfoldRepeats \global } \melody >> }
 \midi{
   \context{ \Score tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 120 4) }
 }
}

Thanks,

Paul Scott









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Re: Error in lilypond-book

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Francisco Vila wrote:

Hello, my input files are too complex to attach, but if anyone is a
lilypond-book user, my question is: in which conditions could one
obtain this error? It happens both on 2.12 and 2.13

textwidth=459.6215pt
columnsep=10.0pt
(./tmpWslxir.aux) )
No pages of output.
Transcript written on tmpWslxir.log.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 2126, in ?
main ()
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 2108, in main
chunks = do_file (files[0])
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 1981, in do_file
set_default_options (source, default_ly_options, global_options.format)
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 973, in
set_default_options
textwidth = get_latex_textwidth (source)
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 1770, in
get_latex_textwidth
columns = int (m.group (1))
ValueError: invalid literal for int():

TIA


I'm not sure what would cause the error but if you'd like me to 
try running it you can send me a tarball privately.


Jon

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Error in lilypond-book

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
Hello, my input files are too complex to attach, but if anyone is a
lilypond-book user, my question is: in which conditions could one
obtain this error? It happens both on 2.12 and 2.13

textwidth=459.6215pt
columnsep=10.0pt
(./tmpWslxir.aux) )
No pages of output.
Transcript written on tmpWslxir.log.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 2126, in ?
main ()
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 2108, in main
chunks = do_file (files[0])
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 1981, in do_file
set_default_options (source, default_ly_options, global_options.format)
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 973, in
set_default_options
textwidth = get_latex_textwidth (source)
  File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book", line 1770, in
get_latex_textwidth
columns = int (m.group (1))
ValueError: invalid literal for int():

TIA
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Lilypond & MIDI output of drums

2009-06-05 Thread Dave Merson Hess
Hi All,

When I output to MIDI, it seems that notes on my DrumStaff do not go to
channel ten--in the MIDI file, they are assigned a basic GM piano sound.  Is
there a way to explicitly assign MIDI channel 10 to DrumStaff?

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: article (in German) about copyright of printed music

2009-06-05 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/6/2 Werner LEMBERG :
>
> This `good' Wikipedia article
>
>  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechtsschutz_von_Schriftzeichen
>
> also discusses printed music.  Quite interesting to read...
>
> This article should probably translated into English :-)

Although as it relates specifically to German law and rulings in the
German courts, anybody who is getting into that area had better brush
up their German!

-- 
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Re: MIDI and transposing instruments

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 Peter Chubb :
> Francisco> Please use \transposition for this.

>
> \transposition doesn't sit well with MIDI output if you're going to do
> further transpositions.
>
> Try:
> \version "2.11.62'
> clarinet = \transpose bes c' { \transposition bes bes1 }
> flute = { bes1 }
>
> \score {
>        \transpose c d' <<
>                \new Staff \clarinet
>                \new Staff \flute
>        >>
>        \midi {}
>        \layout{}
> }
>
> You'll hear a discord instead of the unison you expect.

Right, but for simple copying of written music and further hearing,
this simple example works:

\version "2.11.62"
clarinet = { \key d \major d''1 }
flute = { c'1 }

\score {
   <<
   \new Staff { \transposition bes \clarinet }
   \new Staff \flute
   >>
   \midi {}
   \layout{}
}


Granted, \transposition is not useful in general if it does not
support \transpose in it (or outside of it).

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Re: Hairpin after-line-breaking -- how?

2009-06-05 Thread Gilles THIBAULT



I want the hairpin to end on the first note of a new line.
\relative g'{
 \override Score.Hairpin #'after-line-breaking = ##t
 g2\< a4 a4 | \break
 b2.\! r4}
But it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
If i have well understood, 'after-line-breaking is a callback function to 
allow user to tweak some parameters if a line break does occur, not to 
decide if you want or not to split a grob after a line break.
(see 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Difficult-tweaks#Difficult-tweaks )

So the only (ugly) solution i know is :


   \relative g'{
 g2\< a4 a4 | \break
 s16 b2.*11/12\! r4
 c1
   }


but it is not very usefull in the "Real Life" because you generally don't 
know where a line break occurs.


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Re: MIDI and transposing instruments

2009-06-05 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Francisco" == Francisco Vila  writes:

Francisco> 2009/6/5 bernie arai :
>> i'm trying my hand at finally using the midi output of lilypond to
>> audition my scores (instead of relying on my horrid piano playing).
>> after a bit of messing around, and a while looking through the
>> docs, i'm a bit stumped as to what to try next.  i've defined
>> instruments for example:
>> 
>>     tenorsax = \transpose c d' \relative c { % tenor notes (in
>> concert pitch) }

Francisco> Please use \transposition for this.

Francisco> 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-pitches#Instrument-transpositions


\transposition doesn't sit well with MIDI output if you're going to do
further transpositions.  

Try:
\version "2.11.62'
clarinet = \transpose bes c' { \transposition bes bes1 }
flute = { bes1 }

\score {
\transpose c d' <<
\new Staff \clarinet
\new Staff \flute
>>
\midi {}
\layout{}
}

You'll hear a discord instead of the unison you expect.

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Re: MIDI and transposing instruments

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 bernie arai :
> i'm trying my hand at finally using the midi output of lilypond to
> audition my scores (instead of relying on my horrid piano playing).
> after a bit of messing around, and a while looking through the docs,
> i'm a bit stumped as to what to try next.  i've defined instruments
> for example:
>
>     tenorsax = \transpose c d' \relative c {
> % tenor notes (in concert pitch)
> }

Please use \transposition for this.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-pitches#Instrument-transpositions

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Re: Can't get LilyPond to work.

2009-06-05 Thread Gilles THIBAULT

Hello Steve




The system cannot find the path specified.
Is there anything I can do to make LilyPond work?
I am running Open Office in Windows XP.

I think you try to install OOolilypond in OpenOffice (not Lilypond).
To install OOoLilypond, you have to :
1- Install Lilypond in your system :
   http://lilypond.org/web/install/
2- Install OOoLilypond in OpenOffice.
3- In the main window of the OOoLilypond editor, click on the "config" 
bouton :

In the bottom edit box, type the path of your lilypond executable :
in Windows something like :
   C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond.exe

It should work with these 3 steps.

Gilles






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