Re: about Midi in Frescobaldi 0.7.11

2009-06-19 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op vrijdag 19 juni 2009, schreef Wilbert Berendsen:
> If this remains a problem, I'll be glad to alter Frescobaldi and make it
> possible that users enter a path to the desired MIDI player, independent of
> the OS default one.

I just did :)

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Large square brackets for modern notation

2009-06-19 Thread Qian Li
I want to draw square brackets taller than staff height to indicate, for
example, free rhythm with specified pitches using stemless noteheads inside
the brackets. I believe Penderecki and others have used them.

Right now I'm trying text markup but can't get the brackets big and heavy
enough to cover the whole staff height.

Thanks

Qian
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Re: trill spanner down

2009-06-19 Thread -Eluze


Mehmet Okonsar-3 wrote:
> 
> I wasn't able to put the tr spanner below the note (staff)
> I tried to use, with \pitchedTrill ---
> \once \override TrillSpanner #'padding = #-12
> or \trillSpannerDown
> without success...
> thanks..
> 
> 

here you nee to overwrite another property (which you can  find in the
internals reference IR):

\override TrillSpanner #'direction = #-1 
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Re: about Midi in Frescobaldi 0.7.11

2009-06-19 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op vrijdag 19 juni 2009, schreef Philippe Hezaine:
> It's a little bit annoying thing.
> I have installed it on Gentoo with the ebuild improved on the
> Frescobaldi's site. All is right. But when i save, compile and want to
> play the midi, a box opens where i have to write *each time* the path
> from timidity. It doesn't record the info for later.
> Well, i don't run KDE, only the libs and dependencies for Frescobaldi.

Isn't there a box to check 'Always use this application for files of this 
type'? The dialog in question is provided by KDE.

In that case, try setting the default app for Midi files inside Gnome. 
Frescobaldi just 'runs' the file, as if you clicked on it in the file manager.

(It might be confusing, the path and command for timidity in the configuation 
dialog is about timidity running as an ALSA midi client (so you can enter 
music with Rumor and hear the notes as played), not for playing back the 
LilyPond-generated MIDI file.)

If this remains a problem, I'll be glad to alter Frescobaldi and make it 
possible that users enter a path to the desired MIDI player, independent of 
the OS default one.

best regards,
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Re: Can't Change Line Width

2009-06-19 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hi,

In 2.12 single line scores are by default short. To have single line scores 
extend to the full line width, add ragged-right = ##f to the paper block.

( You *can* set line-width etc. in the \paper { } block, not the \layout 
block. )

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Re: getting rid of ' and , in older scores

2009-06-19 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op vrijdag 19 juni 2009, schreef Bertalan Fodor:
> I think Frescobaldi or lyqi has a feature for this purpose.

Frescobaldi hasn't, yet. But absolute <-> relative conversion is planned.

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trill spanner down

2009-06-19 Thread Mehmet Okonsar
I wasn't able to put the tr spanner below the note (staff)
I tried to use, with \pitchedTrill ---
\once \override TrillSpanner #'padding = #-12
or \trillSpannerDown
without success...
thanks..

Esenlikler! Best regards!
Mehmet Okonsar
pianist, composer, conductor
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Re: Menu bar

2009-06-19 Thread James E. Bailey


On 19.06.2009, at 06:52, Joe Bentley wrote:


Hello to all at Lilypond
   First off, I must say, I'm impressed with the results that I've  
seen with
your program, the engraving is beautiful.  I am running a Mac OS X  
10.5.6, and
for some reason no drop-down menu appears while I am running  
Lilypond.  I've
installed it into my Applications folder and managed to save the  
example file to
my desktop, but when I open the program and click on the program's  
name in the
top menu bar, no menu appears.  I've also tried ctrl+clicking, to  
no avail; I
can't find the option for compiling the file anywhere.  I've read  
the manual all
the way up to the First Steps chapter that deals with opening and  
viewing the
example file (2.1.1 I believe) and I haven't found any solutions.   
Hopefully

this is simply a problem of my own technological ignorance.
Thanks for your time
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There are issues with lilypond on osx 10.5. The lilypond download  
page (http://lilypond.org/web/install/) has several options for  
macintosh users.


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about Midi in Frescobaldi 0.7.11

2009-06-19 Thread Philippe Hezaine

Hi,

It's a little bit annoying thing.
I have installed it on Gentoo with the ebuild improved on the
Frescobaldi's site. All is right. But when i save, compile and want to
play the midi, a box opens where i have to write *each time* the path
from timidity. It doesn't record the info for later.
Well, i don't run KDE, only the libs and dependencies for Frescobaldi.
In version 0.7.6 there wasn't this problem.
If i do install in /usr/local the issue is the same.
Any hints?

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Re: getting rid of ' and , in older scores

2009-06-19 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
I wrote them all with the default (ees, fis, etc) because that was easier in
earlier versions that trying to do \include.  But while I understand that's
now a whole lot easier, I'll have to take a bit of time to run the learning
curve -- but I do intend to do so sometime ...

Gordon+

On 19/06/2009, Mark Polesky  wrote:
>
> Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> > Yes, but having removed all the ticks, I can then compile and
> > reinsert ticks where necessary -- probably not an odious task.
> > I'll try it ...
>
> What language are you notes inputted with? The default (ees fis
> etc...) or some other language?
>
> - Mark
>
>


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Re: Can't Change Line Width

2009-06-19 Thread David Boothe

Thanks, Kieran.  That fixed it.

-David.



- Original Message 
> From: Kieren MacMillan 
> To: David Boothe 
> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:02:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Can't Change Line Width
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> > I have a template that I use for setting the weekly Psalm antiphons - a 
> > single 
> line melody with lyrics on letter size paper in landscape mode.  It has 
> always 
> worked fine.
> > Recently I upgraded Lilypond to 2.12 (on Windows).  Now the width of the 
> > line 
> is less than half the width of the page, causing the layout to be crowded, 
> horizontally.  It readable, but not easily.
> 
> I believe v2.12 was when the default changed for ragged-right on single-line 
> scores -- to fix this issue, add the line
> 
> ragged-right = ##f
> 
> to your \paper block.
> 
> Hope this helps!
> Kieren.



  


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Re: Petrucci-like spacing?

2009-06-19 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 6/18/09 8:45 AM, "Laura Conrad"  wrote:

>> "Carl" == Carl D Sorensen  writes:
> 
> Carl> Does this seem at all promising?
>>> 
>>> Yes, but there's still the problem of extra space at the barline.  I
>>> tried Michael's solutions and doing nothing at all and there's still
>>> extra space after the 4th whole note.
> 
> Carl> How about this?
> 
> Carl> \relative c'' {
> Carl>   \key f \major
> Carl> \cadenzaOn
> Carl> g1*1/4 bes1*1/4 a1*1/4 g1*1/4 g1.*1/6 c4 bes4 c1*1/4
> Carl> }
> 
> Carl> I think that gets rid of the extra space.
> 
> Yes, it does. 
> 

Here's the code defining petrucciSpacing:

petrucciSpacing = 
#(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?)
"Set effective spacing of all notes to 1/4"
(music-map (lambda (m)
(if (eq? (ly:music-property m 'name) 'NoteEvent)
(let*
 ((current-duration (ly:music-property m 'duration))
  (current-log (ly:duration-log current-duration))
  (current-length (ly:duration-length current-duration))
  (current-dotcount
   (ly:duration-dot-count current-duration))
  (new-factor (ly:moment-div
   (ly:make-moment 1 4)
   current-length))
  (new-numerator (ly:moment-main-numerator new-factor))
  (new-denominator
   (ly:moment-main-denominator new-factor)))
 (set! (ly:music-property m 'duration)
  (ly:make-duration
   current-log
   current-dotcount
   new-numerator
   new-denominator))
 m)
m))
  music))

\relative c'' {
  \key f \major
\cadenzaOn
\petrucciSpacing {
  g1 bes 1 a1 g1 g1. c4 bes4 c1 \bar "||"
}
}


HTH,

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Re: getting rid of ' and , in older scores

2009-06-19 Thread Mark Polesky
Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> Yes, but having removed all the ticks, I can then compile and
> reinsert ticks where necessary -- probably not an odious task.
> I'll try it ...

What language are you notes inputted with? The default (ees fis
etc...) or some other language?

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Re: getting rid of ' and , in older scores

2009-06-19 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Yes, but having removed all the ticks, I can then compile and reinsert ticks
where necessary -- probably not an odious task.  I'll try it ...

Gordon+

On 19/06/2009, Nick Payne  wrote:
>
> But if you remove all instances of ' and , then you're assuming that all
> notes are less than a fifth away from the preceding note - most unlikely.
>
> Nick
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org
> > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne
> =internode.on@gnu.org] On
> > Behalf Of David Bobroff
> > Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 3:58 PM
> > To: Father Gordon Gilbert
> > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> > Subject: Re: getting rid of ' and , in older scores
> >
> > jEdit, or any decent editor for that matter, has a 'search/replace'
> > function.  Can't you simply search for ' and , and replace with
> > ?  This would cost you a few seconds per file.  I imagine that
> > you could also use sed to do this even faster.
> >
> > -David
> >
> > Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've quite a number of older scores I've worked on over the years,
> > starting
> > > with version 2.2.0 (and some from Mutopia even older than that.  I
> > have
> > > successfully used convert-ly on them to bring syntax up-to-date.  But
> > I did
> > > many of them before \relative was as easy-to-use as it is now -- even
> > just
> > > using ' and '' and , and ,, to indicate octave ranges.
> > >
> > > I'd like to put \relative at the top of all my part sections, and
> > delete all
> > > the octave markers.  Is there any *elegant* way to go through these
> > scores
> > > and eliminate all of the ' and , without deleting each and every one?
> > >
> > > I'm using LilyPond 2.12.1 on either Windows XP Home or Ubuntu Jaunty,
> > with
> > > jEdit 4.3pre16 and LilyPondTool.
> > >
> > > I always appreciate the valuable advice see on this list.
> > >
> > > Blessings,
> > >
> > > Gordon+
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Compiling on MAC OS X 10.5.7

2009-06-19 Thread Jesús Guillermo Andrade
Dear Simon: I have had no problems in compiling the very latest  
version of lily (12.3.1) in MacOS 10.5.7. It requieres some little  
tricks but nothing impossible. Have you used git to download it?


The precompiled version 2.12.2 does not seem to have any menu I can  
access to compile lilypond scripts as instructed in the opening  
editor script. I.e. the only thing that appears in the menu bar is  
the LilyPond menu item, no compile menu item.


Kinda weird
Simon

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Re: Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple authors?

2009-06-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LilyPond

MonAmiPierrot wrote:

I'm sorry I can't help on this level cause I have little-to-no knowledge on
how all of this works.
If you know of something in the web that can be taken as an example (I just
found out a web-based LaTeX project http://code.google.com/p/latex-lab/ but
still under development) could you give me the link?
Thanks
H.
P.S. A very simple author/version control could be enough for 99% of needs
if other 2 points are available in some way.





Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
  

Well using commercial source control systems for handling lilypond
projects seems quite odd. A wiki has many advantages to simple version
control, though you could write a client that supports preview, multiple
editions etc. But that would be a lot easier on a wiki platform.  

  Original message  
From: Peter Chubb 

Sent: 19 Jun 2009 14:22 +10:00
To: Bertalan Fodor 
Cc: MonAmiPierrot ,  
Subject: Re: Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple authors?



"Bertalan" == Bertalan Fodor  writes:
  

Bertalan> A wiki would be perfect for this purpose I think. If the
Bertalan> extension for the wiki is smart enough, it can generate
Bertalan> various outputs.

Bertalan> MonAmiPierrot írta:


Hello all, just some difficoult (but not stupid, I hope) questions.
I talked about LilyPond in a conference on music edition and
critical editions.  With my surprise, some musicologists (some of
which don't even use Finale!)  asked me if LilyPond could be used
in bigger critical editions projects (e.g., an opera) where
multiple editors are involved. These editors would be:

1- the copyst who does the big "physical" job of writing down the
code 2- the main critical editor 3- some expert revisor 4- the
final editor who cares about layout (and don't forget at point 0- :
the orginal author!)


I'd prefer to use a source code control system for this kind of
collaboration.  Because LilyPond is text based, things like Mercurial,
Perforce, etc., work really well to allow collaborative work, and to
track who did what.

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- MikTex
- LaTeX class: Koma book
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Re: Compiling on MAC OS X 10.5.7

2009-06-19 Thread Simon Mackenzie

On 19/06/2009, at 11:21 AM, Graham Percival wrote:


On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 09:08:11AM +0700, Simon Mackenzie wrote:

On 19/06/2009, at 8:37 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:


On 18.06.2009, at 16:05, Simon Mackenzie wrote:

Has any one had any success compiling Lilypond 2.12.2 on a MAC OS
X 10.5.7 system?



What are the errors reported by the compiler?  And why not use the
precompiled binary?


The precompiled version 2.12.2 does not seem to have any menu I can
access to compile lilypond scripts as instructed in the opening  
editor
script. I.e. the only thing that appears in the menu bar is the  
LilyPond

menu item, no compile menu item.


Compiling from scratch will do nothing about this; compiling from
scratch will just give you the command-line app that already works
as part of the precompiled binaries.

If you're seriously interested in fixing this, search the -devel
mailist for the numerous discussions about what Apple broke in
10.5.  But if you're not prepared to do a fair amount of low-level
hacking in python and OSX packages, then I highly advise you to
either use the command-line version, or use jedit (lilypondtool, I
think it's called?)

Cheers,
- Graham



Thanks Graham
I'll look into setting up jEdit as you suggest.
Simon


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Re: Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple authors?

2009-06-19 Thread MonAmiPierrot

I'm sorry I can't help on this level cause I have little-to-no knowledge on
how all of this works.
If you know of something in the web that can be taken as an example (I just
found out a web-based LaTeX project http://code.google.com/p/latex-lab/ but
still under development) could you give me the link?
Thanks
H.
P.S. A very simple author/version control could be enough for 99% of needs
if other 2 points are available in some way.





Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
> 
> Well using commercial source control systems for handling lilypond
> projects seems quite odd. A wiki has many advantages to simple version
> control, though you could write a client that supports preview, multiple
> editions etc. But that would be a lot easier on a wiki platform.  
> 
>   Original message  
> From: Peter Chubb 
> Sent: 19 Jun 2009 14:22 +10:00
> To: Bertalan Fodor 
> Cc: MonAmiPierrot ,  
> Subject: Re: Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple authors?
> 
>> "Bertalan" == Bertalan Fodor  writes:
> 
> Bertalan> A wiki would be perfect for this purpose I think. If the
> Bertalan> extension for the wiki is smart enough, it can generate
> Bertalan> various outputs.
> 
> Bertalan> MonAmiPierrot írta:
>>> Hello all, just some difficoult (but not stupid, I hope) questions.
>>> I talked about LilyPond in a conference on music edition and
>>> critical editions.  With my surprise, some musicologists (some of
>>> which don't even use Finale!)  asked me if LilyPond could be used
>>> in bigger critical editions projects (e.g., an opera) where
>>> multiple editors are involved. These editors would be:
>>> 
>>> 1- the copyst who does the big "physical" job of writing down the
>>> code 2- the main critical editor 3- some expert revisor 4- the
>>> final editor who cares about layout (and don't forget at point 0- :
>>> the orginal author!)
> 
> I'd prefer to use a source code control system for this kind of
> collaboration.  Because LilyPond is text based, things like Mercurial,
> Perforce, etc., work really well to allow collaborative work, and to
> track who did what.
> 
> --
> Dr Peter Chubb  peter DOT chubb AT
> nicta.com.au
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> Australia
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RE: getting rid of ' and , in older scores

2009-06-19 Thread Nick Payne
But if you remove all instances of ' and , then you're assuming that all
notes are less than a fifth away from the preceding note - most unlikely.

Nick

> -Original Message-
> From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On
> Behalf Of David Bobroff
> Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 3:58 PM
> To: Father Gordon Gilbert
> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: getting rid of ' and , in older scores
> 
> jEdit, or any decent editor for that matter, has a 'search/replace'
> function.  Can't you simply search for ' and , and replace with
> ?  This would cost you a few seconds per file.  I imagine that
> you could also use sed to do this even faster.
> 
> -David
> 
> Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've quite a number of older scores I've worked on over the years,
> starting
> > with version 2.2.0 (and some from Mutopia even older than that.  I
> have
> > successfully used convert-ly on them to bring syntax up-to-date.  But
> I did
> > many of them before \relative was as easy-to-use as it is now -- even
> just
> > using ' and '' and , and ,, to indicate octave ranges.
> >
> > I'd like to put \relative at the top of all my part sections, and
> delete all
> > the octave markers.  Is there any *elegant* way to go through these
> scores
> > and eliminate all of the ' and , without deleting each and every one?
> >
> > I'm using LilyPond 2.12.1 on either Windows XP Home or Ubuntu Jaunty,
> with
> > jEdit 4.3pre16 and LilyPondTool.
> >
> > I always appreciate the valuable advice see on this list.
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Gordon+
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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Re: tablature.ly - please test and comment

2009-06-19 Thread Grammostola Rosea

David Stocker wrote:
I've got some things typed out, but I still need to write explanations 
for the placement and display of objects, and suggestions for the 
program behavior. As soon as I have those written out, I'll post the 
first batch. I'll try to get it done today or tomorrow.


David

Maybe this weekend? ;)

Regards,

\r



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Re: Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple aut hors?

2009-06-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Well using commercial source control systems for handling lilypond projects 
seems quite odd. A wiki has many advantages to simple version control, though 
you could write a client that supports preview, multiple editions etc. But that 
would be a lot easier on a wiki platform.  

  Original message  
From: Peter Chubb 
Sent: 19 Jun 2009 14:22 +10:00
To: Bertalan Fodor 
Cc: MonAmiPierrot ,  
Subject: Re: Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple authors?

> "Bertalan" == Bertalan Fodor  writes:

Bertalan> A wiki would be perfect for this purpose I think. If the
Bertalan> extension for the wiki is smart enough, it can generate
Bertalan> various outputs.

Bertalan> MonAmiPierrot írta:
>> Hello all, just some difficoult (but not stupid, I hope) questions.
>> I talked about LilyPond in a conference on music edition and
>> critical editions.  With my surprise, some musicologists (some of
>> which don't even use Finale!)  asked me if LilyPond could be used
>> in bigger critical editions projects (e.g., an opera) where
>> multiple editors are involved. These editors would be:
>> 
>> 1- the copyst who does the big "physical" job of writing down the
>> code 2- the main critical editor 3- some expert revisor 4- the
>> final editor who cares about layout (and don't forget at point 0- :
>> the orginal author!)

I'd prefer to use a source code control system for this kind of
collaboration.  Because LilyPond is text based, things like Mercurial,
Perforce, etc., work really well to allow collaborative work, and to
track who did what.

--
Dr Peter Chubb  peter DOT chubb AT nicta.com.au
http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au   ERTOS within National ICT Australia
   Kernel Engineering Group (KEG): Where Systems Brew.





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