Re: outside-staff-priority with slur and hairpin
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Trevor Daniels wrote: > From: Trevor Daniels > Subject: Re: outside-staff-priority with slur and hairpin > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" , lilypond-user@gnu.org > Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 10:08 AM > > Jonathan Wilkes wrote Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:38 AM > > > > I did a quick exercise > typsetting a Schumann score, and I'm puzzled > > because to get the hairpin under the slur I had to > turn up > > 'outside-staff-priority for the slur to be greater > than 250. Otherwise, > > the snippet below doesn't work correctly. > > Reading the NR, it sounds like > Lilypond just sorts in increasing > > order for outside-staff objects. Why can't I > just set > > 'outside-staff-priority for the Hairpin to #1? > > Have you not read the Learning Manual? The > Notation Reference assumes you have. This is > explained in considerable detail in section 4.4.3. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I wanted to know why I can't just set Hairpin to #1 and the Slur to #2 for 'outside-staff-priority. And I forgot to search the LM before posting. Yes, I've read (but not memorized) the LM, and I see that overriding the 'outside-staff-priority for DynamicLineSpanner works while using the same override for Hairpin does not. Yet nothing in the section you refer to states that DynamicLineSpanner is the *only* way to change 'outside-staff-priority for a dynamic. There's a paragraph in LM 4.3.1 that says [regarding properties of objects]: "Before we tackle this, let us remember that object properties are grouped in what are called interfaces – see Properties found in interfaces. This is simply to group together those properties that may be used together to tweak a graphical object – if one of them is allowed for an object, so are the others. Some objects then use the properties in some interfaces, others use them from other interfaces. The interfaces which contain the properties used by a particular grob are listed in the IR at the bottom of the page describing that grob, and those properties may be viewed by looking at those interfaces." So when it says properties are "allowed" for an object, what exactly does that mean? Also, what does it mean to say "the properties used by a particular grob?" I'm not a programmer, so some of this is a little difficult to grasp, but by the logic of that paragraph what I'm getting is that 'outside-staff-priority is a property that is allowed for Hairpin objects (because I know 'transparent works on Hairpins and is part of the grob interface), is used by Hairpin objects (because grob-interface is listed at the bottom of the IR for Hairpin), but still cannot be used to make the Hairpin go below the Slur in my example. -Jonathan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Snippets
2009/9/16 Mark Austin : > There are two problems. The first is that this generates two sets of > snippets, one for each line of music. Is there any way to generate a > snippet covering both lines. You'll have to force both systems you want to clip into one long system, either by preventing breaks or (if it's only two systems long, like the example above) setting system-count = 1. > > The second is that it generates an error, and does not generate the > overall pdf output from the ps file. The error is: > > c:/Program > Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm:548:62: > In procedure car in expression (car systems): > c:/Program > Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm:548:62: > Wrong type (expecting pair): () > > Any idea what's causing it (and how to get rid of it)? Remove the \header block. I'm surprised nobody's reported this error before, but it's due to the fact that a \header block (or top-level markup) is included in the list of systems for clipping, but has no System grob. I'll push a fix for this soon (it'll probably miss the next development release, but might make it into 2.12.3). Thanks for the bug report, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fine-tuning of markup positions
Hello,
I have some kind of ornamental "matrix"
a b c
d e f
g h i
I want to display at the end of each \bookpart
(I use different symbols, but this doesn't matter here).
The matrix should be placed centered, and in order to align the
symbols properly,I defined
matrix = \markup {
\override #'(baseline-skip . 2.2)
\column { \override #'(line-width . 6.5)
\fill-line { a b c }
\override #'(line-width . 6.5)
\fill-line { d e f }
\override #'(line-width . 6.5)
\fill-line { g h i }
}
}
and used it via
\markup {
\fill-line { \matrix }
}
So far, so good; but for the symbols I use, I need some fine-tuning of
the distances
between b/c and h/i. In the first case, the symbols should be narrower,
in the
latter case, I need a small additional space between them.
Inserting a negative \hspace in the first line, for example
\fill-line { a b \hspace #-1 c }
doesn't have the desired effect.
\translate with negative coordinates doesn't work either.
Is there a different approach I can use?
Thanks in advance
Marc
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Re: Treble clef with optional octavation?
Alexander Kobel schrieb:
Hi, all,
anyone knows how to write a G clef, like in
\clef "treble_8"
but with the octavation "8" in parentheses? (It's for a staff with a
solo voice sung by either alto or baritone, and thus the octavation is
optional.)
This solution (with a callback created by Neil Puttock) works fine:
#(define-public (parenthesize-me grob)
(let* ((font (ly:grob-default-font grob))
(open (stencil-whiteout (ly:font-get-glyph font
"accidentals.leftparen")))
(close (stencil-whiteout (ly:font-get-glyph font
"accidentals.rightparen")))
(me (ly:text-interface::print grob)))
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
me X LEFT open)
X RIGHT close)))
test = \relative c, {
\override Staff.OctavateEight #'stencil = #parenthesize-me
\clef "treble_8"
c4 d e f
g a b c
}
\score { \test }
Marc
Thanks,
Alexander
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Re: Chords with multiple glissandos
David Stocker schrieb:
Thanks Kieren.
I actually do need the chords expressed as one "voice". I'll look
through the list archives and see if I can use your solution.
Thanks,
David
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi David,
Is there any way to make this work, so that both sets of notes are
connected with glissandos?
If you correct your polyphonic code, it works fine:
\version "2.13.3"
\include "english.ly"
\paper { ragged-right = ##f }
\relative c'' {
cs1
<<
{ \voiceOne cs4 \glissando b \glissando cs2 }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo gs4 \glissando fs \glissando gs2 }
>> \oneVoice
}
If you want these to be chords instead — which is not what your
original example suggests — look for my solution in the list archive.
I always wondered if there is a possibility to enhance the glissando
engraver. When I code ties
between chords, i.e.
< c e g > ~ < c e g >
lilypond draws three ties, but the same situation with \glissando
doesn't work the way we all
wanted deep in our hearts :-)
(Ok, a glissando between two identical chors makes no sense, but I think
you know what I mean).
Marc
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Treble clef with optional octavation?
Hi, all, anyone knows how to write a G clef, like in \clef "treble_8" but with the octavation "8" in parentheses? (It's for a staff with a solo voice sung by either alto or baritone, and thus the octavation is optional.) Thanks, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chords with multiple glissandos
Thanks Kieren.
I actually do need the chords expressed as one "voice". I'll look
through the list archives and see if I can use your solution.
Thanks,
David
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi David,
Is there any way to make this work, so that both sets of notes are
connected with glissandos?
If you correct your polyphonic code, it works fine:
\version "2.13.3"
\include "english.ly"
\paper { ragged-right = ##f }
\relative c'' {
cs1
<<
{ \voiceOne cs4 \glissando b \glissando cs2 }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo gs4 \glissando fs \glissando gs2 }
>> \oneVoice
}
If you want these to be chords instead — which is not what your
original example suggests — look for my solution in the list archive.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Chords with multiple glissandos
Hi David,
Is there any way to make this work, so that both sets of notes are
connected with glissandos?
If you correct your polyphonic code, it works fine:
\version "2.13.3"
\include "english.ly"
\paper { ragged-right = ##f }
\relative c'' {
cs1
<<
{ \voiceOne cs4 \glissando b \glissando cs2 }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo gs4 \glissando fs \glissando gs2 }
>> \oneVoice
}
If you want these to be chords instead — which is not what your
original example suggests — look for my solution in the list archive.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Chords with multiple glissandos
Is there any way to make this work, so that both sets of notes are
connected with glissandos?
**minimal example**
\version "2.13"
\include "english.ly"
\paper {
ragged-right = ##f
}
\relative c'' {
cs1
<<
{cs4 \glissando b \glissando cs2}
{gs4 \glissando fs \glissando gs2}
>>
}
**end minimal example**
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Re: emacs on Ubuntu
Okay.
If you still want to enable lilypond-mode in Emacs, go to
/home/yourusername/.emacs.d and edit the file called "init.el"
If the directory or the file (or both) don't exist, then create them.
In init.el, paste in the following:
**begin copy and paste section**
(setq load-path (append (list (expand-file-name
"/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp")) load-path))
(autoload 'LilyPond-mode "lilypond-mode" "LilyPond Editing Mode" t)
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.ly$" . LilyPond-mode))
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.ily$" . LilyPond-mode))
(add-hook 'LilyPond-mode-hook (lambda () (turn-on-font-lock)))
**end copy and paste section**
If something similar was already there, just delete it first and paste
in what you've got above. Save the file and exit. That should be it. You
should be good to go. If you change your LilyPond installation in any
way (like uninstalling the repositories version and installing a newer
version using the executable from the website), then you'll most likely
have to change init.el to reflect the new location of the lilypond-mode
files.
Hope this helps.
David
Ralph Palmer wrote:
Hi, David -
I installed through Synaptic, but by downloading from the LilyPond
site, because the regular Ubuntu repositories didn't have 2.12.2. I'm
not sure, but I think the Ubuntu repositories were only up to 2.10 at
that point. At any rate, the repostitories are at 2.12.1 now, so I
think I would have to uninstall and re-install if I were to go to an
Ubuntu official install. I have :
/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/lilypond-mode.el
Hmmm. I think maybe I'll try vim.
Ralph
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Stocker
mailto:dstoc...@thenotesetter.com>> wrote:
Hi Ralph,
To my novice eyes, it seems there is one of two possible issues here:
1. The path indicated in your "init.el" file, which is supposed to
point to the lilypond-mode files in your LilyPond installation
folder is incorrect, or
2. "init.el" points to the place where the lilypond-files are
supposed to be, but the files are missing.
How did you install LilyPond? Did you do it through Add/Remove or
Synaptic, or by downloading the executable from the LilyPond site?
Ralph Palmer wrote:
Hi, I've been here before, but I've still got a problem.
I'm running Ubuntu (Jaunty Jackalope), Lilypond 2.12.2, and
emacs 22.2.1.
Whenever I try to open a .ly file in emacs, I get :
File mode specification error: (file-error "Cannot open load
file" "lilypond-mode")
Has anyone else had this problem and/or found a fix? I tried
some instructions I got a while back from someone on the
lilypond user list, and they didn't work. I re-installed
emacs, and no joy. I then tried following the instructions
again, and still no luck. Any suggestions?
Or is there another helpful text editor (with highlighting),
other than jedit (with seems to be slow and resource
intensive, in my experience)?
Thanks for your time and attention,
Ralph
--
Ralph Palmer
Montague City, MA
USA
palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com
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Re: outside-staff-priority with slur and hairpin
Jonathan Wilkes wrote Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:38 AM I did a quick exercise typsetting a Schumann score, and I'm puzzled because to get the hairpin under the slur I had to turn up 'outside-staff-priority for the slur to be greater than 250. Otherwise, the snippet below doesn't work correctly. Reading the NR, it sounds like Lilypond just sorts in increasing order for outside-staff objects. Why can't I just set 'outside-staff-priority for the Hairpin to #1? Have you not read the Learning Manual? The Notation Reference assumes you have. This is explained in considerable detail in section 4.4.3. I also tried using 'avoid-slur (and turning off outside-staff-priority for the hairpin) but to no avail. This too is explained there. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
