Re: Enhancement request
Quoting Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: On 3/19/10 8:40 AM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote: According to the documentation for 2.12.3 There is no support for chords where the same note occurs with different accidentals in the same chord. I have a situation where this is required and would like to add it as an enhancement request. I've copied this to bug-lilypond so an issue can get made on the tracker, but I doubt this will get worked on in the near future. This issue has been discussed on the mailing lists several times over the years. The first question is what layout such a feature would use. One option is shown in http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505, but I guess there's no single established typesetting practice for these situations. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-glyphs in other programs
Dear community, Mike O'Donnel gave me the tip to write a tex-document with xelatex,but I don't know how I could do this. Could someone be so kind an could give me a short a example, how a normal text could inlude some lilypond-symbols in a xetex-document? Thanks, Stefan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Cord Names vs midi Instrument
Is it possible to override the midi instrument for named chords (to change it to a guitar, for instance) or is note format the only way ? thanks, Gerry ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
question about print quality
Hello, There have been some questions lately about things like: slurs that cross staves, accidentals in chords, various spacing issues, etc. These are things that are very easy to do when Lilypond svg output is edited in Inkscape. My question - is printed output from Inkscape inferior to normal LilyPond output? I'm using a basic inkjet printer to print homework for my students, music for the choir, etc., so I notice no difference at all (it looks excellent). Thanks, Gerard___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Enhancement request
The attached image is how this appears in the Chappell version of The Mikado. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se To: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu Cc: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net; Lilypond bug bug-lilyp...@gnu.org; LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Enhancement request Quoting Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: On 3/19/10 8:40 AM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote: According to the documentation for 2.12.3 There is no support for chords where the same note occurs with different accidentals in the same chord. I have a situation where this is required and would like to add it as an enhancement request. I've copied this to bug-lilypond so an issue can get made on the tracker, but I doubt this will get worked on in the near future. This issue has been discussed on the mailing lists several times over the years. The first question is what layout such a feature would use. One option is shown in http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505, but I guess there's no single established typesetting practice for these situations. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user attachment: Mikado.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cord Names vs midi Instrument
Hi. Is it possible to override the midi instrument for named chords (to change it to a guitar, for instance) or is note format the only way ? \set ChordNames.midiInstrument = acoustic guitar (nylon) Best, Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Enhancement request
Hi Phil, The attached image is how this appears in the Chappell version of The Mikado. Your example isn't technically a situation where the same note occurs with two different accidentals in the same chord -- it has two different voices! Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cord Names vs midi Instrument
Thanks, Gilles, but I must have something else wrong here is my
score section:
\score {
\new ChordNames \chordmode { \Chords }
\set ChordNames.midiInstrument = acoustic guitar (nylon)
\new Staff
\Melody
\lyricsto Melody \new Lyrics \Words
\set Staff.instrumentName = Melody
\set Staff.midiInstrument = flute
\layout {
}
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 112 4)
}
}
}
any idea what I am doing wrong ?
On 20 March 2010 13:09, Gilles Sadowski gil...@harfang.homelinux.org wrote:
Hi.
Is it possible to override the midi instrument for named chords (to
change it to a guitar, for instance) or is note format the only way ?
\set ChordNames.midiInstrument = acoustic guitar (nylon)
Best,
Gilles
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Re: Enhancement request
Hi Phil, The attached image is how this appears in the Chappell version of The Mikado. Your example isn't technically a situation where the same note occurs with two different accidentals in the same chord -- it has two different voices! Cheers, Kieren. Understand that. I was quoting from the Multiple Voices section of the Reference, and understood it to mean that when there are 2 notes in 2 voices but which have the same fundamental note, only differing in an accidental, then LilyPond doesn't support this. I do have the chords set in different voices and it shows as in the attached clip - it incorrectly makes the first note of the 2nd voice a natural. -- Phil Holmes attachment: Mikado2.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Enhancement request
Hi Phil,
understood it to mean that when there are 2 notes in 2 voices but which have
the same fundamental note, only differing in an accidental, then LilyPond
doesn't support this.
Nope -- but we should adjust the documentation if it's unclear.
I do have the chords set in different voices and it shows as in the attached
clip - it incorrectly makes the first note of the 2nd voice a natural.
That's a different issue:
\score {
\new Staff
\new Voice { \voiceOne fis'8[ g'] }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo #(set-accidental-style 'voice) b f'!8[ b f'] }
}
See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#Automatic-accidentals
for more information.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Enhancement request
On Mar 20, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Quoting Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: On 3/19/10 8:40 AM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote: According to the documentation for 2.12.3 There is no support for chords where the same note occurs with different accidentals in the same chord. I have a situation where this is required and would like to add it as an enhancement request. I've copied this to bug-lilypond so an issue can get made on the tracker, but I doubt this will get worked on in the near future. This issue has been discussed on the mailing lists several times over the years. The first question is what layout such a feature would use. One option is shown in http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item? id=505, but I guess there's no single established typesetting practice for these situations. This would be helpful for the jazz alt chord, if it were being written out in piano notation. Jazz lead sheets aren't usually done that way, though, and the chord is usually denoted by something like Ab(alt) as a chord name above the staff. (I have noticed in photos of recent jazz recording sessions, though, that jazz musicians now often use proper sheet music instead of lead sheets. Must be the change from jazz as learned in bars and clubs to jazz as learned in conservatories and universities). The alt chord can contain the root, 3rd, b7th and any or all of the b5, #5, b9, #9 and sometimes further extensions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altered_chord So G(alt) could be (in worst case scenario) g b des dis f aes ais I kind of like the way it's done in the example on the Wikipedia page: two notes side by side preceded by the accidentals. About as clear as it's going to get. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Enhancement request
On 3/20/10 9:43 AM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca
wrote:
Hi Phil,
understood it to mean that when there are 2 notes in 2 voices but which have
the same fundamental note, only differing in an accidental, then LilyPond
doesn't support this.
Nope -- but we should adjust the documentation if it's unclear.
I do have the chords set in different voices and it shows as in the attached
clip - it incorrectly makes the first note of the 2nd voice a natural.
That's a different issue:
\score {
\new Staff
\new Voice { \voiceOne fis'8[ g'] }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo #(set-accidental-style 'voice) b f'!8[ b f'] }
}
It seems to me that this is a bug; the fis' and the f' are not the same
note, and therefore the note-heads should not be merged.
Thanks,
Carl
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Re: Enhancement request
Hi Carl, It seems to me that this is a bug; the fis' and the f' are not the same note, and therefore the note-heads should not be merged. Yes, *that's* the bug (not the accidental handling). =) For the record, I [quickly] tried a number of shifting attempts, but couldn't duplicate the original sample -- both accidentals kept shifting with the left-most note column. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cord Names vs midi Instrument
Hi Gerry,
any idea what I am doing wrong ?
You probably want something more like
\score {
\new ChordNames \with { midiInstrument = acoustic guitar (nylon) }
\chordmode { \Chords }
\new Voice = Melody \with { midiInstrument = flute instrumentName =
Melody }
\Melody
\new Lyrics \lyricsto Melody \Words
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 112 4)
}
}
}
If you are going to use the \set mechanism, then you'll want to add it into
your \Chords variable (not where you have added it in the \score block).
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Enhancement request
Yes - the point I was making was that the 2nd note was marked as a natural when there had already actually been an Fnat in the same bar - it appears that LilyPond is actually taking the first F in the lower voice to be a # when it's really a Nat. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca To: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu Cc: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se; LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org; Lilypond bug bug-lilyp...@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Enhancement request Hi Carl, It seems to me that this is a bug; the fis' and the f' are not the same note, and therefore the note-heads should not be merged. Yes, *that's* the bug (not the accidental handling). =) For the record, I [quickly] tried a number of shifting attempts, but couldn't duplicate the original sample -- both accidentals kept shifting with the left-most note column. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
template integrating .ly .tex
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Re: lilypond-glyphs in other programs
I have taken my discussion with Stefan Thomas regarding access to the Feta font in XeTeX (an implementation of TeX and LaTeX that is particularly friendly to importing fonts) off list. We'll try to post a useful result later after we've banged things out. If anyone would like to join the detailed discussion, or if you think it belongs on the list, let me know. Cheerio, Mike O'Donnell ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
dictionary for linking syntax code lines of LSR
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Re: template integrating .ly .tex
2010/3/20 François-Xavier Jean resti...@gmail.com: Hello, I am looking for a model (template) integrating the two formats: Lilypond and TeXShop (. tex . ly) that I could open with jEdit http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/An-example-of-a-musicological-document -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Shapenote Repeats and Breaks
Hello!
I'm a (sometimes) composer of shapenote music, in the style of the
Sacred Harp, and have been working on a particular issue.
Sacred Harp music has different glyphs for repeat barlines, and
different conventions for using them. The glyph usually uses only one,
heavy barline (rather than two, unless at the end of the piece), and
four dots instead of two. (See below for the stencils I've been using
for this.) When a repeat occurs at the beginning of a line or
mid-measure, however, only the four dots are used, with no barline at
all.
My issue is this: Traditionally, when a repeat sign coincides with a
line-break, the previous line should end with a normal barline, and
the new line should start with just four dots (following the key
signature). However, when use use \override to replace the repeat sign
with my stencil, Lilypond insists on adding a warning repeat at the
end of the previous line, such that the first line ends in four dots
rather than a barline.
By setting break-visibility to end-of-line-invisible, I can surpress
the end-of-line four dots, leaving the first line entirely without a
closing barline. I can't find a way to force Lilypond to differentiate
between the end-of-line barline and the beginning-of-line one,
however. Is there a way to do this?
Example code including relevant stencils below.
Thanks!
-Leland
% Start Example
\version 2.12.2
# (define (barDotFn grob)
(interpret-markup
(ly:grob-layout grob)
'(((baseline-skip . 1) (word-space . 0.4) (thickness . 1.9)))
(markup
#:right-align
#:vcenter
#:line (
#:vcenter
#:column (#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0 )
#:hspace 0.1
#:raise 2 #:override '(thickness . 5) #:draw-line '(0 . -4) ) ) ))
# (define (barDotFnD grob)
(interpret-markup
(ly:grob-layout grob)
'(((baseline-skip . 1) (word-space . 0.4) (thickness . 1.9)))
(markup
#:right-align
#:vcenter
#:line (
#:vcenter
#:column (#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0 )
#:hspace 0.1
#:raise 2 #:override '(thickness . 5) #:draw-line '(0 . -4) )
#:hspace 0.1
#:raise 2 #:override '(thickness . 5) #:draw-line '(0 . -4) ) ) )
# (define (dotFn grob)
(interpret-markup
(ly:grob-layout grob)
'(((baseline-skip . 1) (word-space . 0.8) (thickness . 3)))
(markup
#:right-align
#:vcenter
#:line (
#:vcenter
#:column (#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0
#:filled-box '(0 . 0.35) '(0 . 0.35) 0 )
) ) ))
global = {
\key d \minor
\time 4/4
\set shapeNoteStyles = #'#(la mi fa #f la fa #f la)
\once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders =
#(make-vector 3 '(left-edge
clef
key-signature
time-signature
staff-bar
))
}
tenorMusic = \relative c'' {
f4 f g2 | a f4 d | d1 | \bar ||
\break
\once \override Score.BarLine #'break-visibility =
#end-of-line-invisible
\repeat volta 2 {
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'stencil = #dotFn
\bar |:
a4 c d2 | e f4 e | d c2. |
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'stencil = #barDotFnD
}
\bar |.
}
\score {
\new ChoirStaff
\new Staff = tenor
\new Voice = tenor {
\global \tenorMusic
}
}
% End Example %%
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Fwd: Re: template integrating .ly .tex
voici une modle d'intgration dans jEdit de deux types de codes: le code .ly le code .tex - trs utile lorqu'on doit rdiger une analyse musicale et joindre des examples. merci la liste internationale et particulirement Francisco Vila (Espagne) cordialement Franois - Afficher en criture latine Here is a model of integration in jEdit two types of codes: the code. ly code. tex - very useful lorqu'on should write a musical analysis and attach examples. thank you to the international list and particularly to Francisco Vila (Spain) best regards Franois Message original Sujet: Re: template integrating .ly .tex Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:14:48 +0100 De: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com Pour: Franois-Xavier Jean resti...@gmail.com Copie : lilypond-user@gnu.org 2010/3/20 Franois-Xavier Jean resti...@gmail.com: Hello, I am looking for a model (template) integrating the two formats: Lilypond and TeXShop (. tex . ly) that I could open with jEdit http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/An-example-of-a-musicological-document -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Bug with cadenzaOn?
Not a big deal, and my apologies for raising possible bugs rather too
frequently, but...
Run the following:
\version 2.8.0
{
\new Staff
\new Voice {
\clef treble_8
\time 4/4
r1 r1 |
R1*4/4 \bar |. }
\new Staff
\new Voice {
\clef treble_8
\time 4/4
\cadenzaOn c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 \cadenzaOff |
R1*4/4 \bar |.
}
}
and the logfile includes:
CadenzaTestSmall.ly:9:8: warning: barcheck failed at: 2
r1 r1
|
Reverse the order of the Staves:
\version 2.8.0
{
\new Staff
\new Voice {
\clef treble_8
\time 4/4
\cadenzaOn c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 \cadenzaOff |
R1*4/4 \bar |.
}
\new Staff
\new Voice {
\clef treble_8
\time 4/4
r1 r1 |
R1*4/4 \bar |. }
}
and it runs clean.
--
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\partial after \cadenzaOff
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Yamaha recall
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Using the break-alignable-interface (aligning RehearselMark)
Hello,
I tried to get a left-aligned (or offset) RehearselMark.
This could be above a dashed bar-line (or above the first note after this)
but
neither
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(NoteHead)
\once \override Score.NoteHead #'break-align-anchor = #15
\mark \markup {C \magnify #.9 \italic {frei im Rhythmus} }
\bar dashed
nor
\bar dashed
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(BarLine)
\once \override Score.BarLine #'break-align-anchor = LEFT
\mark \markup {C \magnify #.9 \italic {frei im Rhythmus} }
don't work.
Who can help?
Thanks
Werner
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Re: Tie between repeat and alternative
remove e4 ~ and use
\repeatTie
in alternative after the note.
\repeat volta 2 { r4 e4 } \alternative { e4 \repeatTie f4 } { e4 \repeatTie g4 }
--- On Fri, 3/19/10, Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt wrote:
From: Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt
Subject: Tie between repeat and alternative
To: lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:08 PM
Hello
When the last note from a repeat includes a tie, the first
note from the
alternative gets rendered correctly. But the second
alternative don't.
Any way to make it work?
\repeat volta 2 {
r4 e4 ~
}
\alternative {
{ e4 f4 }
{ e4 r }
}
Thanks.
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