Re: /noBeam
On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:53 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
In the following snippet, Lilypond puts beams over the last three 8th notes
and it looks clunky:
\times 2/3 { d4 e4 d4 } b4 g'8 f8
e8 d8 c'8\staccato r8 r2
I want the c'8 to not be beamed with the other two 8th notes in the last
measure. When I use \noBeam
\times 2/3 { d4 e4 d4 } b4 g'8 f8
e8 d8 c'8\noBeam\staccato r8 r2
Lilypond renders all three 8th notes without a beam instead of just the last
one. Is there a reason for this?
Thank you!
As far as I understand, from lilypond's point of view, those three notes should
be beamed together. If you say you don't want a beam there, lilypond doesn't
put one. If you want just the first two beamed together, use e8[ d].
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Re: /noBeam
James Bailey wrote Jul 31, 2010, at 4:53 AM,
Tim McNamara wrote:
In the following snippet, Lilypond puts beams
over the last three 8th notes and it looks clunky:
\times 2/3 { d4 e4 d4 } b4 g'8 f8
e8 d8 c'8\staccato r8 r2
I want the c'8 to not be beamed with the other two
8th notes in the last measure. When I use \noBeam
\times 2/3 { d4 e4 d4 } b4 g'8 f8
e8 d8 c'8\noBeam\staccato r8 r2
Lilypond renders all three 8th notes without a beam
instead of just the last one. Is there a reason for this?
\noBeam causes the current beam to be removed entirely
and a new beam started at the next note. If \noBeam is
placed on the last or next to last note in the beam group
then there is no place to start a new beam, of course.
The docs look to be misleading on this, but as the whole
beaming algorithm and documentation has been changed for
2.13.29 lets look at it again when that's out.
As far as I understand, from lilypond's point of view,
those three notes should be beamed together. If you
say you don't want a beam there, lilypond doesn't put one.
If you want just the first two beamed together, use e8[ d].
This is the easiest solution.
Trevor
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Choice of ending?
I found an old song and it gives me to know that it has two endings—you get to choose which one. It's not like you repeat after the first and go to the second. You just choose either one and leave the other unplayed. Is there some standard way of doing this, by chance? I'm not sure what words to search the documentation for, if so. I'm guessing the way my music does it isn't standard. It uses a volta repeat with three alternates. The first is a real repeat. The next two are both labeled 2 (for the second alternate), and there is the markup 'eller' (that's 'or' in Swedish) above between the two volta brackets. For the curious, this is printed in an 1896 Swedish hymnal (no. 36 out of 245) entitled Jubelklangen. I've recently started putting LilyPond sheet music for these up on hymnwiki.org (207 hymns left to go). -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Choice-of-ending--tp29312019p29312019.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tempo commands not in learning manual
Submitted as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1197 -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: James james.l...@datacore.com To: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk Cc: Lily-Devel List lilypond-de...@gnu.org; lilypond-user@gnu.org; dwilck...@lavabit.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: Re: tempo commands not in learning manual Hello, On 29/07/2010 23:31, Trevor Daniels wrote: Dan Wilckens wrote Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:47 PM My suggestion is to include the \tempo Allegro 4=160 type command in the Rhythms section of the Learning Manual, since tempo is fundamental to rhythm, and I didn't find it anywhere else in the learning manual; I'd even put it as early as 1.2.1, along with Clef, Time Signature, I agree. A simple example could be included in the same brief style as the others between Time Signature and Clef in 1.2.1. This would be easy to do. I'll make a patch for this today and submit to Trevor. etc., or at least in section 2.1. And, I'd also suggest it be put somewhere more logical in the Notation Reference as well, since its current location Under Staff Notation-Writing Parts is among the last places I'd think to look to find tempo commands; maybe in section 1.2.3, Displaying Rhythms, alongside Time Signature etc. I agree with this too. The Metronome marks section would be better placed in 1.2.3 immediately after Time signature, but the move would require some juggling with a number of snippets. There are higher priority doc items, though. If I get permission (or if someone else would like to) I suggest we make a tracker item for this one until I (someone) gets round to it. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
no line for textspanner
Dear community, is it possible to get an invisible line for textspanners and if so, how can it be done? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: no line for textspanner
2010/7/31 Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com: Dear community, is it possible to get an invisible line for textspanners and if so, how can it be done? Hi! Yes it is. \override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1 Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: tempo commands not in learning manual
Hello, Commits fc1946c290e5f253769a306efff1b0224178aaa5 and 9e1b534c81e101c449acfa176f923be57cbcaea5 have added a patch in to the Learning Manual. The NR still needs to be done. Tracker opened http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1197 (thanks Phil) James -Original Message- From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:t.dani...@treda.co.uk] Sent: Thu 29/07/2010 23:31 To: James Lowe; lilypond-user@gnu.org Cc: Lily-Devel List Subject: Re: tempo commands not in learning manual Dan Wilckens wrote Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:47 PM Hi James, I mainly thought the tempo command was too hard to find in the documentation--too illogically placed for me to track down easily navigating the notation reference headings (just tried it in the 2.13 doc's, had similar problems before with 2.12 doc's) and I actually couldn't find the command at all in the learning manual in a couple minutes of clicking around the section headings. (Admittedly, in the index it is easy to find.) My suggestion is to include the \tempo Allegro 4=160 type command in the Rhythms section of the Learning Manual, since tempo is fundamental to rhythm, and I didn't find it anywhere else in the learning manual; I'd even put it as early as 1.2.1, along with Clef, Time Signature, I agree. A simple example could be included in the same brief style as the others between Time Signature and Clef in 1.2.1. This would be easy to do. etc., or at least in section 2.1. And, I'd also suggest it be put somewhere more logical in the Notation Reference as well, since its current location Under Staff Notation-Writing Parts is among the last places I'd think to look to find tempo commands; maybe in section 1.2.3, Displaying Rhythms, alongside Time Signature etc. I agree with this too. The Metronome marks section would be better placed in 1.2.3 immediately after Time signature, but the move would require some juggling with a number of snippets. There are higher priority doc items, though. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Choice of ending?
Hello, I think the term you are looking for is 'ossia' (at least that is how it seems to be in many of my Baroque Trumpet books). As to how it is engraved, well my references show it as above/below the bar that it can replace or right at the end of the peice as a 'mini score' with instructions indicating which bar it can replace. James -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Cordilow Sent: Sat 31/07/2010 9:57 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Choice of ending? I found an old song and it gives me to know that it has two endings-you get to choose which one. It's not like you repeat after the first and go to the second. You just choose either one and leave the other unplayed. Is there some standard way of doing this, by chance? I'm not sure what words to search the documentation for, if so. I'm guessing the way my music does it isn't standard. It uses a volta repeat with three alternates. The first is a real repeat. The next two are both labeled 2 (for the second alternate), and there is the markup 'eller' (that's 'or' in Swedish) above between the two volta brackets. For the curious, this is printed in an 1896 Swedish hymnal (no. 36 out of 245) entitled Jubelklangen. I've recently started putting LilyPond sheet music for these up on hymnwiki.org (207 hymns left to go). -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Choice-of-ending--tp29312019p29312019.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Choice of ending?
* Cordilow arv...@gmail.com [2010-07-31 01:57]: I found an old song and it gives me to know that it has two endings—you get to choose which one. It's not like you repeat after the first and go to the second. You just choose either one and leave the other unplayed. Is there some standard way of doing this, by chance? I'm not sure what words to search the documentation for, if so. I'm guessing the way my music does it isn't standard. It uses a volta repeat with three alternates. The first is a real repeat. The next two are both labeled 2 (for the second alternate), and there is the markup 'eller' (that's 'or' in Swedish) above between the two volta brackets. I think this situation is uncommon enough that there is no true standard way to print it. Therefore (in my opinion anyway), any method that is neatly laid out and is not confusing will be fine, including just the way it was already done. One other possible method would be to replace the 2. above the extra second ending with Alternative ending. Or you could name them Either and Or. -- David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: no line for textspanner
On 31 July 2010 13:12, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote: \override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1 Or \override TextSpanner #'style = #'none from 2.13.24. Cheers, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: no line for textspanner
2010/7/31 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com: Or \override TextSpanner #'style = #'none from 2.13.24. Great! I remembered we had a discussion about this possibility with DynamicTextSpanner but I did not know it was finally implemented. Thank you Neil! Maybe you could also modify the doc NR 1.3.1 Dynamics, the snippet Hiding the extender line for text dynamics, to replace \override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0 by \override DynamicTextSpanner #'style = #'none Many thanks! Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Question: how may I create my own (accidental) glyphs?
On 7/30/10 1:03 PM, sereliya at yahoo dot com serel...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear LilyPond users, Greetings! I have developed an alternative microtone system and would like to create my own accidental glyphs. Would anyone happen to know how to proceed? Your assistance is greatly appreciated. You'll need to have a system capable of building lilypond. If you're not on some GNU/Linux distro you'll probably want to run LilyBuntu in a virtual machine. You can get information on that in the Contributors Guide for version 2.13. Your glyphs will be created in metafont. I would expect your glyphs to be created in the file mf/feta-accidentals.mf. You should read the README file in mf/ for more information on the fonts. In order to have your new glyphs added to the font, you'll probably need to do rm mf/out/* make You can read more about metafont by Googling for the metafont book. Hope this helps, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Soundfonts
Hello, Does anyone have experience with various soundfonts? I think Lilypond'smidi is only suitable for GM soundfonts. I just purchased Orchestral Collection Bundle from Digital SOund Factory, and found it is divided into separated sections. Is anyone familiar with this kind of soundfonts? Regards Haipeng ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Soundfonts
2010/7/31 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng hhpmu...@163.com: Does anyone have experience with various soundfonts? I think Lilypond'smidi is only suitable for GM soundfonts. I just purchased Orchestral Collection Bundle from Digital SOund Factory, and found it is divided into separated sections. Is anyone familiar with this kind of soundfonts? Yeah, Lilypond really only does GM sounds, and only 16 MIDI channels. You'll need to put your composition into a real sequencer/DAW (like Rosegarden, Digital Performer, Logic, etc) to use other sounds. Which is probably best anyway -- use Lilypond to make your score look good, and use a sequencer/DAW to make it sound good. -- Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.electricminstrel.com In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world. -- Jelaleddin Rumi ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
