Re: orchestral template, please comment

2010-09-28 Thread Brett Mccoy

On Sep 28, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Mark Polesky  wrote:

> Brett McCoy wrote:
>>> Have you looked at Reinhold's OrchestralLily package?
>>> http://kainhofer.com/orchestrallily/
>> 
>> I just tried one of the examples on that site and, sadly,
>> the orchestrallily.ly file fails to parse under Lilypond
>> 2.12.3, tons of syntax errors. I guess the author hasn't
>> kept up with lilypond development, as "2.11.40" is what is
>> listed in the file.
> 
> Maybe the link I gave is out of date; it looks like he's
> still tweaking things:
> 
> http://repo.or.cz/w/orchestrallily.git
> 
> - Mark

Ah, that's good to know, thanks!

> 
--Brett

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Re: orchestral template, please comment

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Polesky
Brett McCoy wrote:
>> Have you looked at Reinhold's OrchestralLily package?
>> http://kainhofer.com/orchestrallily/
>
> I just tried one of the examples on that site and, sadly,
> the orchestrallily.ly file fails to parse under Lilypond
> 2.12.3, tons of syntax errors. I guess the author hasn't
> kept up with lilypond development, as "2.11.40" is what is
> listed in the file.

Maybe the link I gave is out of date; it looks like he's
still tweaking things:

http://repo.or.cz/w/orchestrallily.git

- Mark


  

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Re: orchestral template, please comment

2010-09-28 Thread Keith E OHara

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:54:23 -0700, Mark Polesky  wrote:

Have you looked at Reinhold's OrchestralLily package?


The documentation, yes, but I have not used the package.

I was a bit curious to compare the plain .ly score that Reinhold's package 
would create to the template in A.5.1.  However, his package does not seem to 
generate an intermediate text file; it seems to go from the OrchestraLily input 
file directly to scheme objects.

The models I found most useful were Jay Alexander's scores on mutopia.

-Keith


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How to set different bar number format every nth bar?

2010-09-28 Thread Marc Mouries

I'd like to have bar numbers printed on every bar with the first bar number of 
each line bigger.
I'd like to find if there is any way to set different bar number format with a 
function rather than inline with the music.

-Marc
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Re: orchestral template, please comment

2010-09-28 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Mark Polesky  wrote:

> Have you looked at Reinhold's OrchestralLily package?
> http://kainhofer.com/orchestrallily/

I just tried one of the examples on that site and, sadly, the
orchestrallily.ly file fails to parse under Lilypond 2.12.3, tons of
syntax errors. I guess the author hasn't kept up with lilypond
development, as "2.11.40" is what is listed in the file.

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it would overturn the world."
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Re: orchestral template, please comment

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Polesky
Have you looked at Reinhold's OrchestralLily package?
http://kainhofer.com/orchestrallily/

- Mark


  

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orchestral template, please comment

2010-09-28 Thread Keith E OHara

Dear orchestral writers,
  I don't use LilyPond for orchestral scores very often, which means that I 
need to refer to the template in Appendix 5.1 of the Learning Manual.

  There is one bug with the template, and five other changes that I suggest to 
help it meet the goals set in its introduction.  Would those of you who set 
orchestral scores please comment on these?

  In one or two weeks I plan to put those changes on which there is consensus 
into the LSR, and ask for approval to incorporate the revised snipped into the 
docs.
-Keith


1) Remove the outermost \GrandStaff{}
According to the Internals Reference, GrandStaff does not accept any of the 
StaffGroup/RhythmicStaff/ChoirStaff contexts that were placed inside it.  A new 
Staff (which _is_ accepted in GrandStaff) inserted into the current template 
will appear at the very top of the printed score, regardless of where it lay in 
the input.

2) Change the key signature to something other than C.
Make visible that the french horn part was written without a key signature.

3) Enter notes as written on the instrument parts, as opposed to concert pitch.
The introductory text says that one can, so show how.

4) Revise the introductory text (the block comment at the front of the attached 
.ly).h
a) Say 'in concert pitch' rather than 'in C'
b) Point out how we use \transpose as a tool for our convenience
c) State that \transposition gives information to LilyPond

5) Add \midi{}.
Make it easy to experiment with \transposition, and show that a default midi 
output is produced, even without \set midiInstrument.

6) Remove Oboe Bassoon HornII and Trombone parts.
Reduce clutter, without removing any pedagogical value.

orchestra_template.ly
Description: Binary data
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Re: Alternative brackets don't print

2010-09-28 Thread Vicente Solsona

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:31:03 +0200, Qian Li  wrote:

Hi, folks.

I have a multistaff score that requires alternative brackets. I tried the
tweak for getting brackets to show in staves below the top staff (below:  
I
may be putting it in the wrong place), but I'm not getting brackets at  
all.

They do print in the individual parts.

What am I missing? In the attachments, document.ly is the file to run. I
also included sop.ly, which is a part that prints correctly. The volta
repeat appears on the last page. Thanks.


 \new StaffGroup <<
\keepWithTag #'score
\new Staff { \with { \consists "Volta_engraver" } << \global
\Soprano >>}
\new Staff { << \global \Alto>> }
\new Staff { << \global \Tenor>> }
\new Staff { << \global \Baritone>> }
>>

>>

Qian


hello,

please always use tiny examples. help us helping you.

please read: http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html

I get volta brackets running Lilypond 2.12 on your example. Note that:

1) in your files, you never use the "\with { \consists "Volta_engraver" }"
section (or at least I can't find it), so the alternative brackets print
on top of the first staff as expected.

2) the version in your files is 2.10.10; if you are using this version of
Lilypond, please note that it is probably unsupported and you should
consider upgrading to the stable version 2.12.3 unless you have a really
good reason to stay in 2.10.

greetings,

Vicente


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Re: 2.13.34-1 freezes when updating syntax (Mac 10.4)

2010-09-28 Thread James Wilkinson

At 4:26 PM -0400 9/28/10, James Wilkinson wrote:

I was using Lilytool in jEdit. There's a button there to update
versions. When you do that it reports progress in a console window.
The last message that it printed was "Applying conversion". Nothing
after that. It always worked before. The version number at the top of
the .ly file wasn't changed. I don't think there was anything else in
the file that needed changing, but don't really know that. I had used
this button a number of times before and got different results, so
this was a surprise.

I tried it later in Windows and got a similar result.


There was a post a few days ago noting that the 2.13.34 version 
changed the \version line at the top of the file to 2.13.31. That 
probably made me think that nothing had happened since 2.13.31 was 
the version I started with. However; something about what I saw 
looked incomplete. I had done updates before and was expecting some 
indication that it had finished but never got one this time.


I really should reinstall 2.13.31 to find out what I was expecting to 
see, strongly suspect that I won't. Since 2.14 is now available, it 
probably doesn't matter, anyway.


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Re: fonts on OSX and 2.13.34

2010-09-28 Thread James Bailey

On Sep 28, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Stan Sanderson wrote:

> 
> On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:11 AM, James Bailey wrote:
> 
>> Has something changed with the way fonts in 2.13 work, custom fonts aren't 
>> loaded.
>> \version "2.12.2"
>> \markup \left-column { \line { How razorback jumping frogs level six piqued 
>> gymnasts. } \line { \override #'(font-name . "Times Italic") { How razorback 
>> jumping frogs level six piqued gymnasts. } } }
>> 
>> This works in 2.12, but not in 2.13.34
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> It works for me with OS X 10.5.8, PPC, LilyPond 2.13.34-1. I also tried it 
> successfully using another font face.
> 
> Stan

Just tried it again, and it worked. Maybe the font database wasn't there this 
morning or something. But it works, and all is well.
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Alternative brackets don't print

2010-09-28 Thread Qian Li
Hi, folks.

I have a multistaff score that requires alternative brackets. I tried the
tweak for getting brackets to show in staves below the top staff (below: I
may be putting it in the wrong place), but I'm not getting brackets at all.
They do print in the individual parts.

What am I missing? In the attachments, document.ly is the file to run. I
also included sop.ly, which is a part that prints correctly. The volta
repeat appears on the last page. Thanks.


 \new StaffGroup <<
\keepWithTag #'score
\new Staff { \with { \consists "Volta_engraver" } << \global
\Soprano >>}
\new Staff { << \global \Alto>> }
\new Staff { << \global \Tenor>> }
\new Staff { << \global \Baritone>> }
>>

>>

Qian
 document.ly
\version "2.10.10"
\include "english.ly"

\include "content.ly"

#(set-global-staff-size 14)
\book{
\header
{
title = "Treatment by the Rippin Stitches"
composer = "Qian Li"
}

\score {
<<
%rehearsal marks for parts
\new MarkLine { \marks } 
\new StaffGroup <<
\keepWithTag #'score 
\new Staff { << \global \Soprano >>}
\new Staff { << \global \Alto>> }
\new Staff { << \global \Tenor>> }
\new Staff { << \global \Baritone>> }
>>

>>
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name "MarkLine"
\consists "Output_property_engraver"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
\consists "Mark_engraver"
\consists "Metronome_mark_engraver"
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(4 . 0 )
}

\context {
\Score
\remove "Mark_engraver"
\remove "Metronome_mark_engraver"
\accepts "MarkLine"
\remove "Staff_collecting_engraver"
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists "Mark_engraver"
\consists "Staff_collecting_engraver"
}
\context{
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
}
}
\midi {
\context {
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 60 4)
%end context
}
%end midi
}

%end score
}

\paper
{
#(set-paper-size "letter" 'landscape )
left-margin = 1\in
line-width = 9.25 \in
top-margin = 0.5 \in
bottom-margin = 1 \in
ragged-bottom = ##t
between-system-space = 0.5\in
%ragged-last-bottom = ##t
}
%end book
}


% to do
% volta 2 repeats in spin
% content.ly
\version "2.10.10"

%identifiers
TextSpan = { \override TextSpanner #'direction = #1 } 
Left = {\set stemLeftBeamCount = #1 }
Lefttwo = {\set stemLeftBeamCount = #2 \set stemRightBeamCount = #1 }
Leftboth = {\set stemLeftBeamCount = #2 \set stemRightBeamCount = #2 }
Right = {\set stemRightBeamCount = #1 }
Righttwo= {\set stemLeftBeamCount = #1 \set stemRightBeamCount = #2 }
Rightboth= {\set stemLeftBeamCount = #2 \set stemRightBeamCount = #2 }
ssp = {\set stemLeftBeamCount = #1 \set stemRightBeamCount = #1 }
ss = {\set stemLeftBeamCount = #1 \set stemRightBeamCount = #1 }
Rests = {\override Rest #'transparent = ##t}
XHead = { \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross }
NormHead = { \revert NoteHead #'style }
sfzppp = #(make-dynamic-script "sfzppp")
pf =  #(make-dynamic-script "p-f")
mff = #(make-dynamic-script "mf-f")
ftfff = #(make-dynamic-script "f-fff")
%This allows manual adjustment of dynamic marker to avoid collision with octavation or other spanner markup
dynamicsXY = #(define-music-function (parser location offsetX offsetY)
(number? number?)
#{
\once \override DynamicText #'X-offset = $offsetX
\once \override DynamicLineSpanner #'Y-offset = $offsetY
#})


%see violaduets/144.ly for examples
OctA = {#(set-octavation 1) }%\set Staff.middleCPosition = #-13 
OctAA = {#(set-octavation 2) }%\set Staff.middleCPosition = #-20
OctBass = {#(set-octavation -1) \set Staff.middleCPosition = #13 }
EndOct = {#(set-octavation 0)}
EndBass = {#(set-octavation 0)\set Staff.middleCPosition = #6 }
OttBrakY = #(define-music-function (parser location padOtt)
(number?)
#{\once \override Staff.OttavaBracket #'padding = $padOtt #})
OttPadY = #(define-music-function (parser location padOtt)
(number?)
#{\override Staff.OttavaBracket #'padding = $padOtt #})
%This allows manual adjustment of dynamic marker to avoid collision with octavation or other spanner markup
dynamicsXY = #(define-music-function (parser location offsetX offsetY)
(number? number?)
#{
\

Re: 2.13.34-1 freezes when updating syntax (Mac 10.4)

2010-09-28 Thread James Wilkinson

 > Gets to the point of saying "Applying conversion:" and just stops

Others might understand this, but I haven't a clue what you're 
saying. Could you be a little more specific about what you're doing 
and what is happening?


(head hanging in shame; must have been getting late)

I was using Lilytool in jEdit. There's a button there to update 
versions. When you do that it reports progress in a console window. 
The last message that it printed was "Applying conversion". Nothing 
after that. It always worked before. The version number at the top of 
the .ly file wasn't changed. I don't think there was anything else in 
the file that needed changing, but don't really know that. I had used 
this button a number of times before and got different results, so 
this was a surprise.


I tried it later in Windows and got a similar result.

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Re: \lyricmode and lyrics with numbers

2010-09-28 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Szelga, Phil
On 28/09/10 14:36, Phil Holmes wrote:
> - Original Message - From: "szelga" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:54 PM
> Subject: \lyricmode and lyrics with numbers
> 
> 
>> i have a .ly file imported from musescore. it has lyrics on church
>> slavonic
>> langiage which include numbers and other non-standard stuff (which,
>> with proper
>> fonts is rendered as proper church slavonic text). here is an example:
>>
>> ApartAverseA = \lyricmode { \set stanza = " 1. " Хва -- ли1 -- те и4
>> -- мz Го --
>> спо1  _ дне. А#л -- ли  _ лy  _ і -- а. }
>>
>> of course this is not processed correctly by lilypond. can i somehow
>> "escape"
>> these symbols to get a correct output?
> 
> 
> Place the phrase which includes the number in inverted commas.  "и4"
> should do it.
> 
Szelga, are you saying the Old Church Slavonic text looks OK in
musescore, but gets mangled during the export to LilyPond?  If so, could
you tell us how the text should look.
Also, is the file produced by muscore encoded as UTF-8?

Phil, I think Szelga wanted to do the exact opposite of what you
suggested, the digits interspersed in the text are noise.

Cheers,
Ian


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Re: fonts on OSX and 2.13.34

2010-09-28 Thread Stan Sanderson


On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:11 AM, James Bailey wrote:

Has something changed with the way fonts in 2.13 work, custom fonts  
aren't loaded.

\version "2.12.2"
\markup \left-column { \line { How razorback jumping frogs level six  
piqued gymnasts. } \line { \override #'(font-name . "Times Italic")  
{ How razorback jumping frogs level six piqued gymnasts. } } }


This works in 2.12, but not in 2.13.34
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It works for me with OS X 10.5.8, PPC, LilyPond 2.13.34-1. I also  
tried it successfully using another font face.


Stan




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Re: \lyricmode and lyrics with numbers

2010-09-28 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: "szelga" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: \lyricmode and lyrics with numbers



i have a .ly file imported from musescore. it has lyrics on church slavonic
langiage which include numbers and other non-standard stuff (which, with 
proper

fonts is rendered as proper church slavonic text). here is an example:

ApartAverseA = \lyricmode { \set stanza = " 1. " Хва -- ли1 -- те и4 -- мz 
Го --

спо1  _ дне. А#л -- ли  _ лy  _ і -- а. }

of course this is not processed correctly by lilypond. can i somehow 
"escape"

these symbols to get a correct output?



Place the phrase which includes the number in inverted commas.  "и4" should 
do it.


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\lyricmode and lyrics with numbers

2010-09-28 Thread szelga
i have a .ly file imported from musescore. it has lyrics on church slavonic
langiage which include numbers and other non-standard stuff (which, with proper
fonts is rendered as proper church slavonic text). here is an example:

ApartAverseA = \lyricmode { \set stanza = " 1. " Хва -- ли1 -- те и4 -- мz Го --
спо1  _ дне. А#л -- ли  _ лy  _ і -- а. }

of course this is not processed correctly by lilypond. can i somehow "escape"
these symbols to get a correct output?


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Re: Lilypond on iPad

2010-09-28 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2010-09-28 um 10:32 schrieb Martin Tarenskeen:

I lost the original thread, but there was a posting recently about  
someone dreaming about an iPad music/score app using Lilypond. But  
the way Apple thinks about publishing and licensing 3rd party  
software does not match very well with GNU open source ideas.


If you mean a complete and usable LilyPond on the iPad, that's  
probably not really viable, see this report on porting TeX to the iPad  
(and LilyPond AFAIK works similar to TeX):

http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2010/talks/2010-09-14-arthur-keynote/Keynote-iPad.pdf
(Abstract: It's possible to run TeX, but typing is a pain, and due to  
Apple's restrictions file handling is very ugly, and you must close  
the app after every compile run.)


The other idea was AFAIR a MIDI player with note display - a  
completely different animal.


Greetlings from Lake Constance
---
fiëé visuëlle
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Re: Lilypond on iPad

2010-09-28 Thread keith Luke
Why not use an iPhone/iPad app that reads PDF files that LilyPond produces.
My friend wrote a great app for the iPad called "Unreal Book", based on the
Berklee "Real Book".  There's also an iPhone app that has songs with only
chords and can transpose.

You can check it out here:

http://www.aronnelson.com/wordpress/2010/05/03/unrealbook-for-ipad-released/

http://www.diystompboxes.com/unrealbook/

There's a review of the latest version here:

http://techinmusiced.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/theres-a-new-king-in-town-and-im-not-talking-about-lebron-in-miami/

iReal Book for the iPhone can be found here:

http://irealbook.net/iReal_Book/Home/Home.html
Aloha,

Keith

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Martin Tarenskeen
wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I lost the original thread, but there was a posting recently about someone
> dreaming about an iPad music/score app using Lilypond. But the way Apple
> thinks about publishing and licensing 3rd party software does not match very
> well with GNU open source ideas.
>
> In the abcusers mailing list there was an anouncement by someone who was
> developing a music app for Android for mobile devices using the ABC music
> notation.
>
> Which makes me think:
> Is Android probably a better way to go if someone ever wants to develop a
> lilypond application for mobile devices ?
>
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>
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Lilypond on iPad

2010-09-28 Thread Martin Tarenskeen


Hi,

I lost the original thread, but there was a posting recently about someone 
dreaming about an iPad music/score app using Lilypond. 
But the way Apple thinks about publishing and licensing 3rd party software 
does not match very well with GNU open source ideas.


In the abcusers mailing list there was an anouncement by someone who was 
developing a music app for Android for mobile devices using the ABC music 
notation.


Which makes me think:
Is Android probably a better way to go if someone ever wants to 
develop a lilypond application for mobile devices ?


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