Re: problem with complicated tuplets (xenakis)

2010-12-11 Thread Jan Warchoł 
Hi,

2010/12/10 Sepand Shahab 
>
> Dear list members,
>
> I'm having a problem with tuplets displaying correctly in certain situations 
> but
> not in others. for example, the following works fine on its own:
>
> \time 4/4
> c32 c c16
> \times 8/7 {c16 c c c c c32 c c16}
> \times 7/6 {c c c c c c }
> \times 5/4 { c16 c c c32 c  }
> \times 4/3 {c16 c32 c c c  }
> \times 4/3 {c16 c c }
> \times 5/4 { c c c32 c c16   }
> \times 6/5 {c16 c c32 c c c c16   }
> \times 7/6 { c16 c c32 c c16 c32  c c c }
>
> But it does not display correctly if there is a part above it with similarly
> complicated tuplets.  For example if you take what's above and put it in the
> left hand of a piano part, then take the exact same music, shift it over by 
> one
> measure and place it in the right hand, something goes wrong.  why?
> I'm using lilypond version 2.13.7-1 on osx 10.6.5

I tried doing what you described but the output seems quite acceptable...
Can you please do the following:
- create a complete code (two staves with above tuplets shifted by 1
measure or whatever else that show that wrong output),
- create a png from it (either directly, see Program usage 3.2.2
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Command-line-options-for-lilypond#Command-line-options-for-lilypond.
or indirectly, by creating a pdf and taking a screenshot of it),
- mark what's wrong on that png,
- send the png with the code that was used to create it to the mailing
list (png must be small - max 60 kB if i remember correctly - or you
have to host it somewhere and send us a link)

cheers,
Janek

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Re: problem with compillation of a large file

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp 
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Stefan Thomas
 wrote:
> Dear Jonathan,
> thanks for Your help.
> In the meantime, I found out, that the error was in the file violine1.ly
> I had to delete there, in line 5, the command "Kurvenunterbrech"
> which I've defined as:
>>
>> Kurvenunterbrech = {
>>     \hideCurvesFrom #'Fingering   #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0)
>>     \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.KeySignature  #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0)
>>     \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.TimeSignature #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0)
>>     \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.Accidental  #'(0.3 . 0.003) #'(0 . 0)
>>
>> }
>
> I don't know why this command caused the errors.
>

Yes it compiled after commenting that command out. I suspect the
command caused the error because it wasn't defined in that file, and
because it wasn't defined in the \include file. Is there another file
of definitions where Kurvenunterbrech is defined? If so just \include
it and it should work. That took a *long* time to compile. :)

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Re: preventing DynamicText/SpanBar collisions

2010-12-11 Thread Jay Anderson 
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
 wrote:
> You don't need to define your own whitePPPMarkup, you can put everything right
> into the make-dynamic-script call:
>
> whiteoutp = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:whiteout #:pad-markup 0.5
> #:dynamic "p"))
> whiteoutf = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:whiteout #:pad-markup 0.5
> #:dynamic "f"))

True. I just prefer using one syntax for markups (even though it isn't
that different).

-Jay

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Re: double time signatures

2010-12-11 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer 
Am Samstag, 11. Dezember 2010, um 21:18:40 schrieb James Bailey:
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Martin Kemp wrote:
> > Dear All
> > 
> > I have nearly got what I want with the following snippet but can't
> > currently centrally align 12 over 8 (12/8). Any help gratefully
> > apprecitated.
> 
> You may be re-inventing the whell. Perhaps
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00447.html will
> help you.

Actually, no. My code was for compound time signatures, like 2/8+3/8 (i.e. 5/8 
divided into 2+3), while the request is for two independent time signatures.

The approach to override the stencil is fine, just one small markup issue was 
missing, see my other mail.

Cheers,
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Re: double time signatures

2010-12-11 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer 
Am Samstag, 11. Dezember 2010, um 20:33:43 schrieb Martin Kemp:
> I have nearly got what I want with the following snippet but can't
> currently centrally align 12 over 8 (12/8).
[...]
> (#:fontsize 0 #:column (a b)))

\column always left-aligns its contents. What you want is center-column 
instead of column. However, in that case, the alignment point is off (the 
center and not the left of the fraction is placed where the markup should 
start), so you have to use an additional left-align:

(#:fontsize 0 #:left-align #:center-column (a b)))

That works just fine.

Can you post that fixed example to the LSR?

Cheers,
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Re: preventing DynamicText/SpanBar collisions

2010-12-11 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer 
Am Samstag, 11. Dezember 2010, um 19:02:11 schrieb Jay Anderson:
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Mark Polesky  wrote:
> > Is there a good *generic* way to prevent DynamicText/SpanBar
> > collisions?  I'd like the DynamicText and NoteColumn to move
> > to the right as a unit, preferably with a single setting to
> > put in a \layout block so as not to have to do this
> > repetitively in the music expression.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Here's the issue: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=621
> 
> Two workarounds (not general solutions):
> 
> 1. Use whiteout and some padding:
> 
> whitePPPMarkup = \markup {\whiteout \pad-markup #0.5 \dynamic ppp}
> whitePPP = #(make-dynamic-script whitePPPMarkup)
> 
> \new StaffGroup \relative f' <<
>  \new Staff { R1 | f2\whitePPP r | }
>  \new Staff { R1 | f1 | }

That's basically what I'm doing in my scores, where I shift dynamics around to 
better places than the default (looks quite professional to whiteout the 
barline, if the dynamics are in a better position then).

You don't need to define your own whitePPPMarkup, you can put everything right 
into the make-dynamic-script call:

whiteoutp = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:whiteout #:pad-markup 0.5 
#:dynamic "p"))
whiteoutf = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:whiteout #:pad-markup 0.5 
#:dynamic "f"))

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Re: problem with compillation of a large file

2010-12-11 Thread Stefan Thomas 
Dear Jonathan,
thanks for Your help.
In the meantime, I found out, that the error was in the file violine1.ly
I had to delete there, in line 5, the command "Kurvenunterbrech"
which I've defined as:

> Kurvenunterbrech = {
> \hideCurvesFrom #'Fingering   #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0)
> \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.KeySignature  #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0)
> \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.TimeSignature #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0)
> \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.Accidental  #'(0.3 . 0.003) #'(0 . 0)
>
> }
>
I don't know why this command caused the errors.

2010/12/11 Jonathan Kulp 

> Well it failed on Windows but I'll try on Linux when I reboot. Here's error
> log:
>
>
> --
>
> # -*-compilation-*-
> Processing `C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/nochmalpartitur.ly'
> Parsing...
> Interpreting music...
> Interpreting music...
> Interpreting music...
> Interpreting music...
> Interpreting music...
> Interpreting music...
> warning: cannot find or create `ConTextSpan' called `'
> Interpreting music...
> warning: cannot find or create `ConTextSpan' called `'
> Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40][48][56]
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:140:28: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>e'''4. \< ^"arco" ( \p
>es'''16 \mf\> [ c'''16  ) ] | % 64
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:143:17: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>b''16( [
> bes''16 g''16ges''16
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:143:30: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>b''16( [ bes''16 g''16
>  ges''16
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:145:4: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>
>gis''8 ) -. \pp r8 \! | % 65
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:148:19: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>e'''4. \< ( \p
>   es'''16 \mf \> [ c'''16  ) ] | % 67
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:151:17: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>b''16( [
> bes''16 g''16ges''16
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:151:30: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>b''16( [ bes''16 g''16
>  ges''16
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:153:4: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>
>gis''8 ) -. \pp r8 \! | % 68
> [64]
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:155:7: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>r8
>   es'''16 ( \p [ c'''16 ] \once \override TupletBracket #'stencil =
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:158:15: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>b''16[
>   bes''16 g''16ges''16
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:158:28: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>b''16[ bes''16 g''16
>ges''16
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:162:4: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>
>gis''4. \< \! ( -- g''16 \mf\> [ e''16  ) ] | % 71
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:162:23: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>gis''4. \< \! ( --
>   g''16 \mf\> [ e''16  ) ] | % 71
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:165:8: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>
>es''8 ( [ c''8 ) b'8 -. ] }
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:168:8: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>
>bes'8 ( [ g'8 ) fis'8 \! -. ] }
> [72][80][88][96]
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/hoerner.ly:73:57: warning:
> unterminated decrescendo
>  g'8 -_ -\tag #'stimme\mf -\tag #'stimme \> [ gis'8
> \> -_ a'8 -_
> ais'8 -_ b'8  -_ -\tag #'stimme \p ] }
> [104][112][120]
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:262:16: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
> b''8  ( \p
>gis''4  ) ais''4
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:262:26: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
> b''8  ( \p gis''4  )
>  ais''4
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:264:4: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>
>fis''4 ( dis''8 ) eis''4 -- eis''4 -- | % 133
> C:/Users/jon/Desktop/TESTING/esaltato/violine1.ly:264:13: warning:
> Ignoring grob for slur: Accidental. avoid-slur not set?
>fis''4 (
> dis''8 ) eis''4 --

RE: double time signatures

2010-12-11 Thread James Lowe 
Hello


-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Martin 
Kemp
Sent: Sat 12/11/2010 19:33
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: double time signatures
 
Dear All

I have nearly got what I want with the following snippet but can't 
currently centrally align 12 over 8 (12/8). Any help gratefully 
apprecitated.

---


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms#index-polymetric-signatures

Does this help?

James

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Re: double time signatures

2010-12-11 Thread James Bailey 

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Martin Kemp wrote:

> Dear All
> 
> I have nearly got what I want with the following snippet but can't currently 
> centrally align 12 over 8 (12/8). Any help gratefully apprecitated.


You may be re-inventing the whell. Perhaps 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00447.html will help 
you.
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double time signatures

2010-12-11 Thread Martin Kemp 

Dear All

I have nearly got what I want with the following snippet but can't 
currently centrally align 12 over 8 (12/8). Any help gratefully 
apprecitated.


best

Martin

<<
#(define ((double-time-signature glyph a b) grob)
   (grob-interpret-markup grob
   (markup #:override '(baseline-skip . 2.5) #:override '(fontsize . 
4)  #:number

   (#:line ((markup (#:fontsize 2 #:musicglyph glyph))
   (#:fontsize 0 #:column (a b)))

music = \relative c' {
\override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil =
#(double-time-signature  "timesig.C44" "12" "8")
\time 3/4
c8 b c d e f g4 g g g4 a8 g f e d2. \bar "|."
}
\score { \music }
>>




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Re: ANDLINUX: Easy virtualization option

2010-12-11 Thread Pascal Obry 
Le 07/12/2010 02:54, Mike Blackstock a écrit :
> 500 meg download is at andlinux.org  - if anybody
> wants to try it and has questions, ask away. It works unbelievably well
> - I've used vmware, and I wouldn;t dream of switching back.

Yep, it is based on colinux that I've been using long time ago. The
problem as reported here already is that there is no 64 bits version.

I have now fully switched to GNU/Linux anyway :) This is even better if
you ask me :)

Pascal.

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Re: preventing DynamicText/SpanBar collisions

2010-12-11 Thread Jay Anderson 
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Mark Polesky  wrote:
> Is there a good *generic* way to prevent DynamicText/SpanBar
> collisions?  I'd like the DynamicText and NoteColumn to move
> to the right as a unit, preferably with a single setting to
> put in a \layout block so as not to have to do this
> repetitively in the music expression.  Any suggestions?

Here's the issue: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=621

Two workarounds (not general solutions):

1. Use whiteout and some padding:

whitePPPMarkup = \markup {\whiteout \pad-markup #0.5 \dynamic ppp}
whitePPP = #(make-dynamic-script whitePPPMarkup)

\new StaffGroup \relative f' <<
 \new Staff { R1 | f2\whitePPP r | }
 \new Staff { R1 | f1 | }
>>

2. Left align the dynamic with some offset

\new StaffGroup \relative f' <<
 \new Staff
 {
   R1 |
   \once \override Staff.DynamicText #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
   \once \override Staff.DynamicText #'X-offset = #'-1.25
   f2\ppp r |
 }
 \new Staff { R1 | f1 | }
>>

I'd be interested in a general solution also if there's a better
answer out here.

-Jay

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preventing DynamicText/SpanBar collisions

2010-12-11 Thread Mark Polesky 
This is mostly a copy of a message I sent to the bug list:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-12/msg00092.html

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

The \ppp collides with the SpanBar in the example below.

\version "2.13.43"

\new StaffGroup \relative f' <<
  \new Staff { R1 | f2\ppp r | }
  \new Staff { R1 | f1 | }
>>

Is there a good *generic* way to prevent DynamicText/SpanBar
collisions?  I'd like the DynamicText and NoteColumn to move
to the right as a unit, preferably with a single setting to
put in a \layout block so as not to have to do this
repetitively in the music expression.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.
- Mark


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Re: problem with compilation of a large file

2010-12-11 Thread Richie Gress 
Your problem is, there is a setting somewhere that is set to #f instead 
of ##f.

So, check your file for #f. Change it to ##f.
For example:
Good - \once \override Score.timeSignature '#Stencil=##f
Bad - \once \override Score.timeSignature '#Stencil=#f

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Re: Request to mailing list lilypond-user rejected

2010-12-11 Thread Ludo Beckers 
No, there's only 1 "from"

A moderator contacted me off line though - we'll probably sort it out
What I think happened is that the old nabble list sent me a mail with
confusing instructions about setting mail on "no delivery", which I did -
turns out that was for Lilypond list and not nabble in general
I changed that just now
Thanks for your reply Francisco

Now let's see if this message appears :-)
Ludo

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Francisco Vila wrote:

> 2010/12/10 Ludo Beckers :
>
> > I never got a reply though. Any idea why my subscription was first
> accepted and
> > then rejected on the same day?
>
> Do you have several From: lines to choose from in Gmail? This could be
> the cause, you shoud always write to the list with the same From: you
> are subscribed with.
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Re: musescore

2010-12-11 Thread Federico Bruni 
Il giorno ven, 10/12/2010 alle 09.21 +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen ha
scritto:
> Great stuff also being done by
> http://scorio.org (and even http://etudeapp.com ). 

Scorio seems great.

Even though LilyPond is not properly credited, IMO.
I had to use the search bar to find it:

http://www.scorio.com/web/scorio/press 
http://www.scorio.com/web/scorio/changelog 

...plus Ctrl + F

:)


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Re: notehead collisions in cluster

2010-12-11 Thread Trevor Daniels 


Jon W wrote Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:00 AM


I uploaded an image as an attachment:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p30430768/collisions_example.png
collisions_example.png  To be sure this is somewhat of a 
pathological case
and I do not expect lilypond to be able to handle it gracefully by 
default.
Ideally the cluster would be rendered with more horizontal spacing 
so as to

avoid collisions.


Jon, could you post an image that shows, or describe precisely
how, you would like these chords to appear?  Could you also
say what you think should happen to shorter notes (with stems)
in these same chords.


My question is, what does anyone suggestion as a practical
solution? What could I instruct my program to do, if it is about 
to output a

chord with two note heads on the same line or space of the staff?


There are ways of changing the positions of note heads
and accidentals in a chord relatively easily as long as
no stems are involved.  If you show exactly what you
want I'm sure someone will come up with a solution in
any specific case.  A general solution would be more
difficult, though.

Trevor



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Re: Troubles with LilypondTool

2010-12-11 Thread George_ 

No, restarting jEdit didn't work and neither did rebooting.

The problem is fixed now, on the jEdit forums. For reference, the solution
was to add the arguments "-Xmx1024M" and "-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true" to the
jedit.bat file so it looks something like this (added arguments bolded)

@echo off
start "jEdit startup" "C:\Windows\SysWOW64\javaw.exe" -Xmx1024M
-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -jar "C:\Program Files\jEdit\jedit.jar" -reuseview
%*


Valentin Villenave wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:49 PM, George_  wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure whether this is the right place to post this.
> 
> The LilyPondTool mailing may be more appropriate.
> 
>> I've got an issue with the pdf previewer that comes with LilypondTool.
>> When
>> I open jEdit and start typing, it looks fine. However, as soon as I use
>> jEdit to compile the text, the viewer starts doing weird things:
>>
>> http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/967/jediterror2.jpg
>> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6325/jediterror1.jpg
>>
>> Deleting the Settings directory in jEdit doesn't help, and neither does
>> uninstalling and reinstalling jEdit. As far as I know there haven't been
>> any
>> system changes between installing jEdit and the problem occurring - one
>> day
>> the problem wasn't there, the next day it was.
> 
> I have seen this sort of things in the past,; it's generally a
> Windows-specific problem with the Java environment. Most of the time
> simply closing and reopening jEdit is enough to fix the problem; if it
> isn't, you may have to reboot your computer.
> 
> Regards,
> Valentin.
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