Re: no view because of mistakes?
On 31 December 2010 01:07, Ludo Beckers lazy...@gmail.com wrote: You mean when trying to view in PDF? This is the result: Unable to open document. File type plain text document (text/plain) is not supported Which OS do you use? How do you compile with LilyPond? Under Windows you should have a .log file, IIRC. Look within the repertory for a text file called your_file_name.log (the same name as you .ly file). Under GNU/Linux if you compile within a terminal, the errors appears in the terminal too. If you use a dedicated text editor allowing you to compile within this editor, then it should also have a buffer/terminal showing the errors when compiling. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: no view because of mistakes?
Thanks Xavier, in a 2nd post I explained I made a mistake thinking (doh) I
was sending my question to the Denemo list.
So I have a .denemo file only, no .ly
I'm pretty new to this, so I know I can see the Lilypond compilation view,
but don't know yet how to extract it as a .ly file.
Trying to change things in the Lilypond view doesn't (seem to) work.
Under GNU/Linux if you compile within a terminal, the errors appears in the
terminal too.
If you use a dedicated text editor allowing you to compile within this
editor, then it should also have a buffer/terminal showing the errors
when compiling.
That's good to know; it might be wise to first get to know .ly files in that
fashion before trying to do all in Denemo or Frescobaldi.
Usually a GUI is easier than compiling yourself, but in this case it's
different - I'll have to learn the inner working better first.
I'm not a hero yet though with vim (also just starting with that).
Here are 2 snippets from the Lilypond view - maybe it's very obvious where
the mistake is?
MvmntIVoiceI = {
fis'2. g'8 fis'\Barline
f'1\Barline
r4 e'8 fis' g' a'16 g' fis'8 e'\Barline
dis' fis' b4 ~ b \times 2/3 { b8 c' cis'\Barline
%5
} d'2. e'4\Barline
c'2 b8 bes a4\Barline
r \times 2/3 { g8 b d' } e' g' g'4\Barline
g'8 e'4. r4 a' \break fis'2. g'8 fis'\Barline
%10
f'1\Barline
r4 e'8 fis' g' a'16 g' fis'8 e'\Barline
dis' fis' b4 ~ b \times 2/3 { b8 c' cis' \break d'2.
e'4\Barline
c'2 b8 bes a4\Barline
%15
r \times 2/3 { g8 b d' e' g' g'4\Barline
g'2 a'4 g' \bar || b'2 ~ b'8 a' g' e'\Barline
\times 2/3 { d'4 d' d' d' c'\Barline
r8 g' g' g' g' gis' a'4\Barline
%20
g'2. c'4\Barline
a'2 ~ a'8 g' f' e'\Barline
ees'2. f'4\Barline
d'2 d'\Barline
d' \times 2/3 { fis'4 a' g' \bar ||%25
fis'2. g'8 fis'\Barline
f'1 \EndMovementBarline
} %% missing close brace
} %% missing close brace
} %% missing close brace
} %% missing close brace
}
and for the chords:
MvmntIVoiceIChords = \new ChordNames \chordmode {
%chord symbols follow
g2.:maj s8
s8
gis1:dim a4:m7 s8 s8 s8 s16 s16 s8
s8 b8:9 s8 s4 s4\times 2/3 { s8 s8
s8
%5
} e2.:7
s4 a2:m7 d8:9 s8
s4 g4:maj\times 2/3 { s8 s8 s8} a8:m7 s8
s4 g8 s4. a4:m7 d4:7.9-
s2. s8
s8
%10
s1 s4 s8 s8 s8 s16 s16 s8
s8 s8 s8 s4 s4\times 2/3 { s8 s8 s8
s2.
s4 s2 s8 s8
s4
%15
s4\times 2/3 { s8 s8 s8 s8 s8
s4 s2 s4 s4
s2 s8 s8 s8
s8\times 2/3 { s4 s4 s4 s4
s4 s8 s8 s8 s8 s8 s8
s4
%20
s2.
s4 s2 s8 s8 s8
s8 s2.
s4 s2
s2 s2\times 2/3 { s4 s4 s4
%25
s2. s8
s8
s1
}
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 December 2010 01:07, Ludo Beckers lazy...@gmail.com wrote:
You mean when trying to view in PDF?
This is the result:
Unable to open document.
File type plain text document (text/plain) is not supported
Which OS do you use? How do you compile with LilyPond?
Under Windows you should have a .log file, IIRC.
Look within the repertory for a text file called your_file_name.log
(the same name as you .ly file).
Under GNU/Linux if you compile within a terminal, the errors appears
in the terminal too.
If you use a dedicated text editor allowing you to compile within this
editor, then it should also have a buffer/terminal showing the errors
when compiling.
Cheers,
Xavier
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Re: no view because of mistakes?
2010/12/31 Ludo Beckers lazy...@gmail.com:
Thanks Xavier, in a 2nd post I explained I made a mistake thinking (doh) I
was sending my question to the Denemo list.
So I have a .denemo file only, no .ly
I'm pretty new to this, so I know I can see the Lilypond compilation view,
but don't know yet how to extract it as a .ly file.
Trying to change things in the Lilypond view doesn't (seem to) work.
That's good to know; it might be wise to first get to know .ly files in that
fashion before trying to do all in Denemo or Frescobaldi.
I recommend doing so. Read the Learning Manual, try to make a simple
score with a regular text editor and afterwards decide if you want to
use Denemo or something else.
Usually a GUI is easier than compiling yourself, but in this case it's
different - I'll have to learn the inner working better first.
I'm not a hero yet though with vim (also just starting with that).
Here are 2 snippets from the Lilypond view - maybe it's very obvious where
the mistake is?
Trying to compile it without Denemo is hard, because there are some
Denemo artifacts (for example \Barline command doesn't come from
default LilyPond specification and therefore LilyPond alone doesn't
understand it)
But i can see that the triplets are done wrongly for sure. For example line 4
dis' fis' b4 ~ b \times 2/3 { b8 c' cis'\Barline
should read
dis' fis' b4 ~ b \times 2/3 { b8 c' cis' } \Barline
HTH,
Janek
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Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?
Strictly, the ignore-collision override doesn't just suppress warnings - it
stops LilyPond trying to avoid them. Shane has given you one option for
avoiding the double flag in your final note. An alternative would be to use
\once \override Stem #'length = #n to adjust the stem lengths. Another
option would be to typeset the final alto note as voiceTwo, to make its stem
face downwards.
As Shane has said, I'm not sure there's a general solution, because what you
want isn't something that's generally done - effectively to make chords out
of different voices.
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From: Tobias Braun tob...@braun-oberkochen.de
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?
Yes, you perfectly understood me. But using chords is totally impractical
for me as I already have the individual voices as LilyPond code.
I tried as you described below and I'm getting a little closer. However,
there are still some problems, one of which you can see in the attached
example: the final chord consisting of two eighth notes actually looks like
a sixteenth note chord.
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
is just to suppress the collision warnings, right?
Regards,
Tobias
% example
\version 2.12.3
global = {
\clef treble
\time 2/2
\key g \dorian
}
soprano = \relative c''' {
\voiceOne
g4 g d4. e8 |
}
alto = \relative c'' {
\voiceOne
b4 c b4. c8 |
}
tenor = \relative c'' {
\voiceTwo
g4 g g2 |
}
\score {
\new Staff
\global
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
\new Voice { \soprano }
\new Voice { \alto }
\new Voice { \tenor }
}
Am 30.12.2010 um 11:21 schrieb Phil Holmes:
Just checking - you can obviously do what you want from a presentation
perspective, since you've provided an example that looks like it came from
LilyPond. I presume you did this using chords, but you want to avoid
using chords in your application?
The way I would do this would be to use:
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
and then set the alto and soprano parts in voiceOne, and the tenor part in
voiceTwo. You do not need to set these for the duration of the piece, so
when you cross the tenor part to the other stave, you can put the command
\voiceTwo in the alto part and it will now be set into the second voice.
You can also set \voiceOne for the tenor part. You may also want to do:
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##f
at the same point.
Let us know how you get on.
--
Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Tobias Braun
tob...@braun-oberkochen.de
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: tob...@braun-abstatt.de; LilyPond User Group
lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?
Sorry about the reply all thing, I forgot that.
I wasn't aware I was sending an HTML e-mail, sorry. That must have been my
webmail client.
What I actually want to achieve is to have it look as uncluttered as
possible. It should be easy to read when playing it on the piano. I'd
basically like to merge all three voices into as few stems as possible.
E.g. the notes of the first beat in measure 1 which basically form a chord
consisting of three notes of the same duration played at the same time
should appear as stacked, not next to each other. There is no need to be
able to distinguish the individual voices.
As this is kind of hard to describe, please have a look at the attached
PDF. I guess I'd prefer the first measure to look like Variant 1, but
Variant 2 would be acceptable as well. (I achieved this sample PDF
through chord syntax, which is not of much use to me as I already have
the individual voices in continuous form.)
Regards,
Tobias
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Re: no view because of mistakes?
Ah, I understand much better!
The problem with the triplets is that most of the curly braces aren't
closed properly; there seem to be 4 messages about that at the end of
your excerpt (not familiar with Denemo at all). A nice feature of Vim
(and some other editors) is that it will highlight braces' partners
for you, so that you can see if they close when they're meant to.
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Jan Warchoł
lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/12/31 Ludo Beckers lazy...@gmail.com:
Thanks Xavier, in a 2nd post I explained I made a mistake thinking (doh) I
was sending my question to the Denemo list.
So I have a .denemo file only, no .ly
I'm pretty new to this, so I know I can see the Lilypond compilation view,
but don't know yet how to extract it as a .ly file.
Trying to change things in the Lilypond view doesn't (seem to) work.
That's good to know; it might be wise to first get to know .ly files in that
fashion before trying to do all in Denemo or Frescobaldi.
I recommend doing so. Read the Learning Manual, try to make a simple
score with a regular text editor and afterwards decide if you want to
use Denemo or something else.
Usually a GUI is easier than compiling yourself, but in this case it's
different - I'll have to learn the inner working better first.
I'm not a hero yet though with vim (also just starting with that).
Here are 2 snippets from the Lilypond view - maybe it's very obvious where
the mistake is?
Trying to compile it without Denemo is hard, because there are some
Denemo artifacts (for example \Barline command doesn't come from
default LilyPond specification and therefore LilyPond alone doesn't
understand it)
But i can see that the triplets are done wrongly for sure. For example line 4
dis' fis' b4 ~ b \times 2/3 { b8 c' cis'\Barline
should read
dis' fis' b4 ~ b \times 2/3 { b8 c' cis' } \Barline
HTH,
Janek
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Re: How do I stop circles from wobbling?
David Kastrup wrote: the vertical extent should fit in the circles necessitated by the horizontal extent. The 4 is big enough to ensure that all the vertical extents do fit, but (because of this) they all fit loosely. This looseness means that to decide where to position a circle vertically a further criterion is needed. Behind the scenes the circle-stencil bases its circle on the centre of the vertical extent (see stencil.scm and issue 107). This of course varies e.g. between button strings G and g. Can anybody tell me what to do to keep the circles from wobbling? The simplest method is to accompany the #:hcenter-in 4 with a #:vcenter. This makes the legends wobble instead of the circles. That looks OK to me, but maybe the legends shouldn't wobble either. In that case we need some sort of average displacement. A line average is insufficient e.g. the bottom line has no g. A total average seems inconvenient so I would do it with a fiddle factor. Replace #:hcenter-in 4 with #:with-dimensions (cons -2 2) (cons 0 1.5) #:center-align and adjust the 1.5 to taste. Cheers, Robin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Skipping time without any output
I'm I misreading the manual here? It says that s4 will create an invisible rest which takes up space in the system, while \skip will just skip time and create no output. But the example in section 1.2.2 Invisible rests clearly shows that \skip generates visible space. As far as I can see s4 and \skip 4 generates exactly the same output. Is there another way of just skipping time with no output whatsoever? This is quite often needed when padding a partial bar in an \alternative, for instance. I have dealt with this by using a scaling duration on the last note in the bar, and that works, but frankly it can be a bit hard to calculate the correct duration sometimes. And it would be nicer if there was an explicit command available. Thanks a lot -- Sven Axelsson ++[+ -].+..+.+.-.+... +++.-.++..++.++.... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?
2010/12/31 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:
Strictly, the ignore-collision override doesn't just suppress warnings - it
stops LilyPond trying to avoid them. Shane has given you one option for
avoiding the double flag in your final note. An alternative would be to use
\once \override Stem #'length = #n to adjust the stem lengths. Another
option would be to typeset the final alto note as voiceTwo, to make its stem
face downwards.
As Shane has said, I'm not sure there's a general solution, because what you
want isn't something that's generally done - effectively to make chords out
of different voices.
--
Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Tobias Braun
tob...@braun-oberkochen.de
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?
Yes, you perfectly understood me. But using chords is totally impractical
for me as I already have the individual voices as LilyPond code.
I tried as you described below and I'm getting a little closer. However,
there are still some problems, one of which you can see in the attached
example: the final chord consisting of two eighth notes actually looks like
a sixteenth note chord.
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
is just to suppress the collision warnings, right?
Regards,
Tobias
% example
\version 2.12.3
global = {
\clef treble
\time 2/2
\key g \dorian
}
soprano = \relative c''' {
\voiceOne
g4 g d4. e8 |
}
alto = \relative c'' {
\voiceOne
b4 c b4. c8 |
}
tenor = \relative c'' {
\voiceTwo
g4 g g2 |
}
\score {
\new Staff
\global
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
\new Voice { \soprano }
\new Voice { \alto }
\new Voice { \tenor }
}
I'm probably missing something here, but in your example it seems that
\score {
\new Staff
\global
\new Voice \soprano \alto
\new Voice \tenor
}
does what you want ?
Sorry if I'm being completely ignorant...
Jakob.
Am 30.12.2010 um 11:21 schrieb Phil Holmes:
Just checking - you can obviously do what you want from a presentation
perspective, since you've provided an example that looks like it came from
LilyPond. I presume you did this using chords, but you want to avoid using
chords in your application?
The way I would do this would be to use:
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
and then set the alto and soprano parts in voiceOne, and the tenor part in
voiceTwo. You do not need to set these for the duration of the piece, so
when you cross the tenor part to the other stave, you can put the command
\voiceTwo in the alto part and it will now be set into the second voice. You
can also set \voiceOne for the tenor part. You may also want to do:
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##f
at the same point.
Let us know how you get on.
--
Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Tobias Braun
tob...@braun-oberkochen.de
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: tob...@braun-abstatt.de; LilyPond User Group
lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?
Sorry about the reply all thing, I forgot that.
I wasn't aware I was sending an HTML e-mail, sorry. That must have been my
webmail client.
What I actually want to achieve is to have it look as uncluttered as
possible. It should be easy to read when playing it on the piano. I'd
basically like to merge all three voices into as few stems as possible. E.g.
the notes of the first beat in measure 1 which basically form a chord
consisting of three notes of the same duration played at the same time
should appear as stacked, not next to each other. There is no need to be
able to distinguish the individual voices.
As this is kind of hard to describe, please have a look at the attached
PDF. I guess I'd prefer the first measure to look like Variant 1, but
Variant 2 would be acceptable as well. (I achieved this sample PDF through
chord syntax, which is not of much use to me as I already have the
individual voices in continuous form.)
Regards,
Tobias
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Re: Skipping time without any output
On 31 December 2010 14:59, Sven Axelsson sven.axels...@gmail.com wrote: I'm I misreading the manual here? It says that s4 will create an invisible rest which takes up space in the system, while \skip will just skip time and create no output. But the example in section 1.2.2 Invisible rests clearly shows that \skip generates visible space. As far as I can see s4 and \skip 4 generates exactly the same output. They generate the same output only in note mode and chord mode. That's what is explained in the doc NR 1.2.2. You must use \skip when entering lyrics for example. AFAIK s4 is like an invisible note. It would create Staff and Voice contexts if you use only s4 but no output if you use \skip . See the 2 snippets (pictures) at the end of NR 1.2.2 Writing rests Invisible rests http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/writing-rests.html#invisible-rests Is there another way of just skipping time with no output whatsoever? This is quite often needed when padding a partial bar in an \alternative, for instance. I have dealt with this by using a scaling duration on the last note in the bar, and that works, but frankly it can be a bit hard to calculate the correct duration sometimes. And it would be nicer if there was an explicit command available. What do you want to do? Maybe if you provide a minimal example of code we could give some suggestions. Have you read NR 1.4.1 Long repeats Normal repeats ? It provides 2 examples (snippets) showing how to handle partial and alternatives. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html#normal-repeats They do not use a scaling duration but instead they change measure length \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 4) But most of the times it is not necessary. Just remember to put \partial only at the beginning of the score. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Skipping time without any output
On 31 December 2010 15:32, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 December 2010 14:59, Sven Axelsson sven.axels...@gmail.com wrote: Is there another way of just skipping time with no output whatsoever? This is quite often needed when padding a partial bar in an \alternative, for instance. I have dealt with this by using a scaling duration on the last note in the bar, and that works, but frankly it can be a bit hard to calculate the correct duration sometimes. And it would be nicer if there was an explicit command available. What do you want to do? Maybe if you provide a minimal example of code we could give some suggestions. Have you read NR 1.4.1 Long repeats Normal repeats ? It provides 2 examples (snippets) showing how to handle partial and alternatives. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html#normal-repeats Oh my, sometimes the obvious solution is not so obvious. As I said, I need to pad partial bars in an alternative, and that can be done by using - partial! As can be seen in one of the examples in 1.4.1. For some reason it never occured to me to use partial in alternative. Well, that takes care of that. Thanks, and happy new year everybody! -- Sven Axelsson ++[+ -].+..+.+.-.+... +++.-.++..++.++.... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do I stop circles from wobbling?
Robin Bannister r...@dataway.ch writes: David Kastrup wrote: the vertical extent should fit in the circles necessitated by the horizontal extent. The 4 is big enough to ensure that all the vertical extents do fit, but (because of this) they all fit loosely. This looseness means that to decide where to position a circle vertically a further criterion is needed. Behind the scenes the circle-stencil bases its circle on the centre of the vertical extent (see stencil.scm and issue 107). This of course varies e.g. between button strings G and g. Can anybody tell me what to do to keep the circles from wobbling? [...] A line average is insufficient e.g. the bottom line has no g. A total average seems inconvenient so I would do it with a fiddle factor. Replace #:hcenter-in 4 with #:with-dimensions (cons -2 2) (cons 0 1.5) #:center-align and adjust the 1.5 to taste. What I use currently is #(define-markup-list-command (buttons layout props str) (string?) (map (lambda (str) (interpret-markup layout props (markup #:hcenter-in 10.8 #:circle #:pad-to-box '(0 . 0) '(-0.5 . 2) #:hcenter-in 4 str))) (string-split str #\-))) and this works reasonably well. Thanks, I did not expect an answer anymore. All the best, -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Skipping time without any output
On 31 December 2010 15:48, Sven Axelsson sven.axels...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 December 2010 15:32, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 December 2010 14:59, Sven Axelsson sven.axels...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there another way of just skipping time with no output whatsoever?
This is quite often needed when padding a partial bar in an
\alternative, for instance. I have dealt with this by using a scaling
duration on the last note in the bar, and that works, but frankly it
can be a bit hard to calculate the correct duration sometimes. And it
would be nicer if there was an explicit command available.
What do you want to do?
Maybe if you provide a minimal example of code we could give some
suggestions.
Have you read NR 1.4.1 Long repeats Normal repeats ?
It provides 2 examples (snippets) showing how to handle partial and
alternatives.
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html#normal-repeats
Oh my, sometimes the obvious solution is not so obvious. As I said, I
need to pad partial bars in an alternative, and that can be done by
using - partial! As can be seen in one of the examples in 1.4.1. For
some reason it never occured to me to use partial in alternative.
However, for something like
\relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 4 b4
c c c c | c c c c
} \alternative {
{ c4 c c c | b b b4*2 }
{ c4 c c c | d d d d }
}
}
I really have to use a scaling duration, right? The whole point with
this is of course to avoid extra whitespace at the end of the bar.
Thanks a lot.
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-].+..+.+.-.+...
+++.-.++..++.++....
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Re: Skipping time without any output
On 31 December 2010 16:25, Sven Axelsson sven.axels...@gmail.com wrote:
However, for something like
\relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 4 b4
c c c c | c c c c
} \alternative {
{ c4 c c c | b b b4*2 }
{ c4 c c c | d d d d }
}
}
I really have to use a scaling duration, right? The whole point with
this is of course to avoid extra whitespace at the end of the bar.
That's typically the example given in the doc that use
\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 4)
Then no problem of extra whitespace!
\relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 4 b4
c c c c | c c c c
}
\alternative {
{
c4 c c c |
\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 4)
b b b4
}
{
\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4 4)
c4 c c c |
d d d d
}
}
}
Cheers,
Xavier
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Re: ps to pdf conversion fails
2010/12/28 jacquesv jw.verha...@gmail.com: The problem is general. Strange, noone replies... Maybe it's an undiscovered fatal bug in LilyPond. Try making a bug report (http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html). Unfortunately i can't help you anymore :( Happy New Year! Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: ps to pdf conversion fails
Hello, From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Jan Warchoł [lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com] Sent: 31 December 2010 15:33 To: jacquesv Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: ps to pdf conversion fails 2010/12/28 jacquesv jw.verha...@gmail.com: The problem is general. Strange, noone replies... Maybe it's an undiscovered fatal bug in LilyPond. Try making a bug report (http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html). Unfortunately i can't help you anymore :( --- Perhaps we need more information? What does 'problem is general' mean. Every file you try if so can you provide one someone else can try independently? As far as I can tell Phil answered with a relatively good idea - the PDF was opened for viewing. We then seemed to digress slightly (myself included) with which PDF viewers didn't have problems, someone asked for a better message and then we get 'problem is general'. So is there still a problem that *isn't* the PDF is open or not? I simply don't know now. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A small but vexing problem (fermatas in several voices)
Le 31/12/2010 00:26, Alexander Kobel a écrit : On 2010-12-30 22:44, Michael J. O'Donnell wrote: Annoyance: the expressive part needs skips of the durations corresponding to the notes in between the expressive marks. Someday, I hope that LilyPond will have the facility to mark temporal points in various parts so that they can be aligned without counting out the beats correctly in each one. This would be structurally analogous to the use of TABs in a single line of typed material, but it would not be associated with lines of music, rather with entire scores. This idea of defining anchors or targets in the music is a long-standing [*], much-awaited request for enhancement. See http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=824, and be sure to check out Gilles' workaround (comment #2). I never tested Gilles' code, though, and I'm not sure whether it will work in the upcoming 2.14. [*] I think this idea is much older than the report filed in the tracker. Unfortunately IIUC this amounts to a quite invasive change in the whole LilyPond structure of parsing and handling input, and is unlikely to appear in the not-so-near future. Especially since it does not increase overall functionality or output quality, and it's easy to overcome for freshly written LilyPond scores with reasonably clever variable definitions. Cheers, Alexander Hi Michael, If you are stopped with this issue I think I could change my files to integrate one more variable with only the fermatas and rests. Would be usefull for you? Anyway if I want to edit the 'breakpoints' in GNU Solfege and avoid headaches, I need it later. However I work from the Breitkopf's edition. It seems, at a rough guess, there aren't different for that point but are containing only 371 chorals which are written on 2 Staffs. I've typed around 300 Chorals and I'm finally going to type the whole thing. (ISMLP could be happy.) With a template and Frescobaldi it isn't so difficult. Your work is very interesting for me because if i have the ansvers about the use of a free license and the sources of jsbchorales for a book, updating the files will be much easier. I'm confident each of us are near the end of it, in a complementary way. By the way, we also are near the end of 2010. Happy New Year. Phil. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Skipping time without any output
On 01/01/11 02:25, Sven Axelsson wrote:
On 31 December 2010 15:48, Sven Axelssonsven.axels...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 December 2010 15:32, Xavier Scheuerx.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 December 2010 14:59, Sven Axelssonsven.axels...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there another way of just skipping time with no output whatsoever?
This is quite often needed when padding a partial bar in an
\alternative, for instance. I have dealt with this by using a scaling
duration on the last note in the bar, and that works, but frankly it
can be a bit hard to calculate the correct duration sometimes. And it
would be nicer if there was an explicit command available.
What do you want to do?
Maybe if you provide a minimal example of code we could give some
suggestions.
Have you read NR 1.4.1 Long repeats Normal repeats ?
It provides 2 examples (snippets) showing how to handle partial and
alternatives.
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html#normal-repeats
Oh my, sometimes the obvious solution is not so obvious. As I said, I
need to pad partial bars in an alternative, and that can be done by
using - partial! As can be seen in one of the examples in 1.4.1. For
some reason it never occured to me to use partial in alternative.
However, for something like
\relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 4 b4
c c c c | c c c c
} \alternative {
{ c4 c c c | b b b4*2 }
{ c4 c c c | d d d d }
}
}
I really have to use a scaling duration, right? The whole point with
this is of course to avoid extra whitespace at the end of the bar.
I think you would use \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 4)
in the alternative if you want three quarter notes in the bar. See
s.1.2.6 on time administration in the NR.
Nick
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Re: A small but vexing problem (fermatas in several voices)
Hi Phil, The problem is pretty well solved. I'm just cleaning up a few things in my scripts today. I don't have all the answers yet regarding copyrights. Margaret Greentree's site seems to claim copyrights only to the PDF images and those are freely shared for non-commercial use. So I'm not quite sure how that might apply to works derived from the MusicXML files. My thought was to release my versions with attribution to her and a Creative Commons license with similar conditions -- free use for non-commercial purposes with attribution and share-alike. Initially, I'm going to put the files into a googlecode site so it's easy to allow more than one person to edit them. I'll be happy to add your name to the list of developers for the site. Later on, I want to put up a free site that can serve PDF, midi, and mp3 files. Looking forward to working with you! Cheers, Mike On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Phil Hézaine philippe.heza...@free.fr wrote: Le 31/12/2010 00:26, Alexander Kobel a écrit : On 2010-12-30 22:44, Michael J. O'Donnell wrote: Annoyance: the expressive part needs skips of the durations corresponding to the notes in between the expressive marks. Someday, I hope that LilyPond will have the facility to mark temporal points in various parts so that they can be aligned without counting out the beats correctly in each one. This would be structurally analogous to the use of TABs in a single line of typed material, but it would not be associated with lines of music, rather with entire scores. This idea of defining anchors or targets in the music is a long-standing [*], much-awaited request for enhancement. See http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=824, and be sure to check out Gilles' workaround (comment #2). I never tested Gilles' code, though, and I'm not sure whether it will work in the upcoming 2.14. [*] I think this idea is much older than the report filed in the tracker. Unfortunately IIUC this amounts to a quite invasive change in the whole LilyPond structure of parsing and handling input, and is unlikely to appear in the not-so-near future. Especially since it does not increase overall functionality or output quality, and it's easy to overcome for freshly written LilyPond scores with reasonably clever variable definitions. Cheers, Alexander Hi Michael, If you are stopped with this issue I think I could change my files to integrate one more variable with only the fermatas and rests. Would be usefull for you? Anyway if I want to edit the 'breakpoints' in GNU Solfege and avoid headaches, I need it later. However I work from the Breitkopf's edition. It seems, at a rough guess, there aren't different for that point but are containing only 371 chorals which are written on 2 Staffs. I've typed around 300 Chorals and I'm finally going to type the whole thing. (ISMLP could be happy.) With a template and Frescobaldi it isn't so difficult. Your work is very interesting for me because if i have the ansvers about the use of a free license and the sources of jsbchorales for a book, updating the files will be much easier. I'm confident each of us are near the end of it, in a complementary way. By the way, we also are near the end of 2010. Happy New Year. Phil. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
ANN: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.
I've just committed a first version of LilyPond sources for 404 Bach chorales at https://solfege-resources.googlecode.com. The voice notation is extracted from Margaret Greentree's musicXML files of the chorales at jsbchorales.net. Each file creates PDF and midi for the full score (typically SATB but some files also have instrument voices) and each individual voice. The LilyPond NoteNames engraver is used to generate the solfege symbols as lyrics. The files are intended for non-commercial use and are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution + NonCommercial + ShareAlike license. The layouts are somewhat sparse as these files are intended for educational use. There is a single include file, common.ly that can be modified to change the layout, etc. I've attached an example file to this message. I don't yet have a zipped package of all files, but you can get them by cloning from the repository if you have Mercurial installed. $ hg clone https://solfege-resources.googlecode.com/hg/ solfege-resources I have not yet processed and inspected all the files, so you may find problems. Two files are already known to have problems that appear to be caused by multi-measure rests in instrumental parts. I've submitted an issue in the repository. I'd welcome anyone who wants to collaborate. Enjoy! Happy New Year, Mike Cheers, Mike 000106B.ly Description: Binary data common.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Can't build local docs with current git pull
Did git pull, make dist-clean, make all, make install, all completed
fine. Then make doc results in:
Renaming input to: `tablature-fretboard-open-string.ly']
Interpreting music...
[/usr/local/lilypond/out/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf/emmentaler-20.otf]Segmentation
fault (core dumped)
command failed: /usr/local/lilypond/out/bin/lilypond -I ./ -I ./out-www
-I ../../input -I /usr/local/lilypond/Documentation -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/snippets -I ../../input/regression/ -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/included/ -I
/usr/local/lilypond/mf/out/ -I /usr/local/lilypond/mf/out/ -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/pictures -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/pictures/./out-www -dbackend=eps
--formats=ps,png,pdf -dinclude-eps-fonts -dgs-load-fonts
--header=doctitle --header=doctitlede --header=doctitlees
--header=doctitlefr --header=doctitlehu --header=doctitleit
--header=doctitleja --header=doctitlenl --header=texidoc
--header=texidocde --header=texidoces --header=texidocfr
--header=texidochu --header=texidocit --header=texidocja
--header=texidocnl -dcheck-internal-types -ddump-signatures
-danti-alias-factor=2 -I /usr/local/lilypond/out/lybook-db -I
/usr/local/lilypond/input/regression -I
/usr/local/lilypond/input/regression -I
/usr/local/lilypond/input/regression/out-www -I
/usr/local/lilypond/input -I /usr/local/lilypond/Documentation
-I /usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/snippets -I
/usr/local/lilypond/input/regression -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/included -I
/usr/local/lilypond/mf/out -I /usr/local/lilypond/mf/out -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/pictures -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/pictures/out-www --formats=eps
--verbose -deps-box-padding=3.00 -dread-file-list
-dno-strip-output-dir
seg fault was here (at grob-property.cc:115)
110
111void
112Grob::internal_set_property (SCM sym, SCM v)
113{
114 internal_set_value_on_alist (mutable_property_alist_,
115 sym, v);
116
117}
mutable_property_alist_ is 0x4a, sym is 0xb7309050, and v is 0x1a.
using gcc 4.6.0 on ubuntu meercat
Is this a known thing or should I look at it?
Patrick
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I hope it's not too off-topic to wish everyone the best success in their Lilypond projects. 2011, give us your best ;) M. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
