Re: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:28:29PM -0500, Michael Ellis wrote: I've also added a couple paragraphs explaining my understanding of U.S. copyright law and urging users to accept the CC license with commercial restriction in honor of Margaret GreenTree's patient labor while acknowledging that patient labor in itself may not create copyrightable work and therefore offering also the Free Art option. I think you are wrong. I think that this Margaret person has created works that are under copyright, and you are taking those works and claiming to offer them under a license that she did not consent to. I've still not heard from her. Hopefully she's just on vacation and will eventually reply. A lack of response should never be construed as permission to do whatever you want. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Accidental and clef change issue
On 4 January 2011 00:35, James Bailey james.lilyp...@googlemail.com wrote: It seems, at least according to section 1.1.3 on accidentals, that this is intended behavior: default This is the default typesetting behavior. It corresponds to eighteenth-century common practice: accidentals are remembered to the end of the measure in which they occur and only in their own octave. Thus, in the example below, no natural signs are printed before the b in the second measure or the last c: No, this is not the same case. In NR 1.1.3 there is no clef change. And according to this rule that accidentals are remembered to the end of the measure in which they occur and only in their own octave the c-natural in the second measure of my code _MUST_ be printed, because it is in the same octave as the first note of the measure (cis2) although written in a different clef. Otherwise (as it is now, i.e. without printed natural) we should conclude that the second note is a c-sharp also. accidentals are remembered to the end of the measure in which they occur and only in their own octave _This is not the case_ We want a c-natural: the natural _MUST_ be printed. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tempo and rehearsal juxtaposition
2011/1/4 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng hhpmu...@163.com:
Hello,
I know how to write q=ca120, by reassigning rehearsal mark. But in my
situation, there's a rehearsal 5 and I'd like to add Adagio (q=ca50). How
to do that?
Since 2.13 \tempo \markup { Text } works.
So simply replace \mark by \tempo and use the same markup.
Remove also your \once \override Score.RehearsalMark ...
since they will probably be no longer necessary.
Cheers,
Xavier
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Re: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.
On 4 January 2011 09:17, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:28:29PM -0500, Michael Ellis wrote: I've also added a couple paragraphs explaining my understanding of U.S. copyright law and urging users to accept the CC license with commercial restriction in honor of Margaret GreenTree's patient labor while acknowledging that patient labor in itself may not create copyrightable work and therefore offering also the Free Art option. I think you are wrong. I think that this Margaret person has created works that are under copyright, and you are taking those works and claiming to offer them under a license that she did not consent to. I've still not heard from her. Hopefully she's just on vacation and will eventually reply. A lack of response should never be construed as permission to do whatever you want. - Graham A quick comment.There are two (linked) types of copyright. If you originate a work - in this context compose some music - you have copyright control over any production of that work. Once that copyright has lapsed, a third party can reproduce the work in, for example, a book. They then get typograpghical copyright: which means, in effect, that you cannot reproduce the book, but you could reset the music into a work of your own. For music, there is a further complication. If someone arranges music, e.g. by adding chords, they gain a copyright on the arrangement, but not on the original music. For example, I am produciong a book of tradition British folk tunes from a music worksshop some years go. The tunes are traditional, and thus out of copyright, but the chords/arrangements are copyright, and I had to get permission from the family. -- Mark Austin -- For Whigs admit no force but argument -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: testing lilydev
- Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: Re: testing lilydev Am 03.01.2011 23:15, schrieb Helge Kruse: Am 03.01.2011 19:56, schrieb Phil Holmes: If you go to the page above, and look for Advanced tasks you'll find a link in the section indented with Note: I got it. Thanks, Is there any good place where to get help to run this in VirtualBox? I think about the screen resolution but don't want to stress the Lilypond mailing list with such questions. You may get problems with the screen size if you don't follow the instructions in the CG exactly - in particular, using install as the initial command with the VM. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: testing lilydev
Hello, From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Phil Holmes [m...@philholmes.net] Sent: 04 January 2011 10:12 To: Helge Kruse; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: testing lilydev - Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: Re: testing lilydev Am 03.01.2011 23:15, schrieb Helge Kruse: Am 03.01.2011 19:56, schrieb Phil Holmes: If you go to the page above, and look for Advanced tasks you'll find a link in the section indented with Note: I got it. Thanks, Is there any good place where to get help to run this in VirtualBox? I think about the screen resolution but don't want to stress the Lilypond mailing list with such questions. You may get problems with the screen size if you don't follow the instructions in the CG exactly - in particular, using install as the initial command with the VM. --- Yes you need the Virtual Box Guest Additions as Phil, quite right says the CG tells you how to install all that. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Alternate style sheets
The LilyPond web site (http://lilypond.org/website/) and the documentation (e.g. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html) both have alternate style sheets, which means that we have 4 more style sheets to maintain than we really need. Does anyone actually use them? And if you do, would it be a serious problem if they were got rid of? Please shout if you need them to be kept, letting us know what use you put them to. Thanks. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Alternate style sheets
On 2011-01-04 12:29, Phil Holmes wrote: The LilyPond web site (http://lilypond.org/website/) and the documentation (e.g. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html) both have alternate style sheets, which means that we have 4 more style sheets to maintain than we really need. Does anyone actually use them? I switched to Andrew's design for my local version of the manuals when these styles were discussed the first time. I never spent thoughts on this since then, and I don't feel irritated when I open the online references from another PC where my settings do not apply. No need to keep them from my POV. On a closer look, I also think that only the default CSS for the docs integrates well with the design of the main site. By the way, on the main page, both alternate designs let the LilyPond logo collide with other stuff on my machine (Firefox 3.6.13, Ubuntu Maverick default). Cheers, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
center text vertically between staves - indicating keyboard changes in organ music
Hello, How can I center text vercially between the staves of a PianoStaff? The two way's I can find in the learning manual (using lyrics and defining a Dynamics context, section A.2) seem a bit overdone for just a few marks. Is there another - more local - way? Shifting the text manually by changing the Y-offset is not really an option because the space between the staves is not fixed. The reason: I'm typesetting music for organ. For the keyboard part I use a PianoStaff. I want to indicate keyboard changes. E.g. Both hands on Grand Clavier Left hand on Grand Clavier, right hand on Positif Right hand on Positif, left hand on Grand Clavier Both hands on Positif Both hands on Echo etc. In the cases where both hands go to the same keyboard, I would like to put the indication vertically centered between the staves of the PianoStaff. Thanks in advance. best regards, Peter van Kranenburg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?
On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:11 AM, James Bailey wrote:
On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:52 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:44 PM, James Bailey wrote:
On Jan 4, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:25 PM, James Bailey wrote:
I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but this compiled just
fine for me on my osx 10.6.5 on an intel iMac:
Hmm, well doesn't seem to be a bug. That was my main question. Thanks,
guys!
I don't know what editor you use,
Emacs 23, Aquamacs or Fraise (the current form of Smultron).
but usually when the error message points to something in init.ly, the
culprit is usually a missing brace.
For me the same files compile in 2.12.3 and fail in 2.13.4 without any
changes to the files. The problem only seems to exist if I am using
\chordmode. The error message is consistent, as pasted into previous posts.
Seemed odd to me. But maybe it's a local problem somehow, since it doesn't
seem to replicate for other folks. Since 2.12.3 works, that's what I'm
sticking with.
Thanks!
Error in note above- 2.12.2 is what works for me, not 2.12.3. D'oh.
Given that there's been a paste which was incomplete, can you make a file
(which consists of a minimal example), compile it, see that the error occurs,
and then paste that entire file? I really would hate to have a bug go
unreported because of faulty reporting.
Sure, since all of my .ly files fail to compile with 2.12.3 that's easy.
Here's a whole file that fails for me. There's no melody notated as of yet,
which simplifies things.
\version 2.12.2
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
\paper {
indent = 0.0
ragged-last = ##f
}
\header {
title = Finn McCool
subtitle = Concert Instruments
composer = McNamara
meter = Swing Ballad
copyright = Tim McNamara 2010, All Rights Reserved
}
harmonies = \chordmode {
r8
% 1
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7
% 5
bes2:min7 ges2:7
bes2:min7 ees2:7
ees2:min7 aes2:7
des1:maj7
% 9
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
% 13
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
aes1:7
des1:maj7
}
melody = \relative c' {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\time 4/4
\clef treble
\key des\major
% 1
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 5
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 9
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 13
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
\bar :|
}
\score
{
\new ChordNames {
\set chordChanges = ##t
\harmonies
}
\new Staff \melody
}
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Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?
On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:11 AM, James Bailey wrote: On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:52 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:44 PM, James Bailey wrote: On Jan 4, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:25 PM, James Bailey wrote: I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but this compiled just fine for me on my osx 10.6.5 on an intel iMac: Hmm, well doesn't seem to be a bug. That was my main question. Thanks, guys! I don't know what editor you use, Emacs 23, Aquamacs or Fraise (the current form of Smultron). but usually when the error message points to something in init.ly, the culprit is usually a missing brace. For me the same files compile in 2.12.3 and fail in 2.13.4 without any changes to the files. The problem only seems to exist if I am using \chordmode. The error message is consistent, as pasted into previous posts. Seemed odd to me. But maybe it's a local problem somehow, since it doesn't seem to replicate for other folks. Since 2.12.3 works, that's what I'm sticking with. Thanks! Given that there's been a paste which was incomplete, can you make a file (which consists of a minimal example), compile it, see that the error occurs, and then paste that entire file? I really would hate to have a bug go unreported because of faulty reporting. I forgot to mention: it fails whether I run the compile command from Emacs, Aquamacs, Fraise or the built-in editor in Lilypond. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I think you are wrong. I think that this Margaret person has created works that are under copyright, and you are taking those works and claiming to offer them under a license that she did not consent to. Actually no. A license is (in part) a promise that the licensor will not sue the licensee so long as s/he adheres to the terms of the license. The licenses I offer, by law, can apply only to whatever portions of the work are my original contributions. Margaret's rights are not abrogated in any way by a license between me and someone who downloads one of the files from Solfege Resources. She or her heirs and assigns could still go after someone anyone who uses the files for financial profit. I'm merely promising that I won't go after them with regard to my work. Moreover, I have diligently acknowledged Margaret's work and urged users to respect her terms of use despite that fact that there is, under U.S. law as I understand it, reason to doubt that what's in my files (sequences of pitches and rhythms) are anything other than minor alterations of music already in the public domain. Cheers, Mike ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?
On 1/4/11 7:47 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: Given that there's been a paste which was incomplete, can you make a file (which consists of a minimal example), compile it, see that the error occurs, and then paste that entire file? I really would hate to have a bug go unreported because of faulty reporting. Sure, since all of my .ly files fail to compile with 2.12.3 that's easy. Here's a whole file that fails for me. There's no melody notated as of yet, which simplifies things. This file compiled perfectly for me on LilyPond 2.13.46 (compiled from git). I'm using OSX 10.5. HTH, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: center text vertically between staves - indicating keyboard changes in organ music
On 1/4/11 6:56 AM, Peter Van Kranenburg peter.van.kranenb...@meertens.knaw.nl wrote: Hello, How can I center text vercially between the staves of a PianoStaff? The two way's I can find in the learning manual (using lyrics and defining a Dynamics context, section A.2) seem a bit overdone for just a few marks. Is there another - more local - way? As far as I know, no. The only way I know of to get centered between two staves is to have a loose-line context between the staves, with an alignment of CENTER. In general, the text markup is associated with notes, and notes belong to staves. So the markup goes with a particular staff. I'm sorry that this is not as satisfying as you would wish it, but I believe it is accurate. Thanks, Carl Sorensen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?
On 01/04/2011 06:47 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
Just another data point, it compiles fine for my on a recent git pull
from trunk on ubuntu Natty Narwhal.
Patrick
\version 2.12.2
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
\paper {
indent = 0.0
ragged-last = ##f
}
\header {
title = Finn McCool
subtitle = Concert Instruments
composer = McNamara
meter = Swing Ballad
copyright = Tim McNamara 2010, All Rights Reserved
}
harmonies = \chordmode {
r8
% 1
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7
% 5
bes2:min7 ges2:7
bes2:min7 ees2:7
ees2:min7 aes2:7
des1:maj7
% 9
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
% 13
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
aes1:7
des1:maj7
}
melody = \relative c' {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\time 4/4
\clef treble
\key des\major
% 1
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 5
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 9
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 13
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
\bar :|
}
\score
{
\new ChordNames {
\set chordChanges = ##t
\harmonies
}
\new Staff \melody
}
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Re: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.
Le 03/01/2011 19:28, Michael Ellis a écrit : Mike, Graham, Henning, Thanks again, it's all good discussion. For the time being, I've altered the home page on the solfege-resources site to offer two choices of License, namely Free Art license in addition to CC BY-NC-AS. I've also added a couple paragraphs explaining my understanding of U.S. copyright law and urging users to accept the CC license with commercial restriction in honor of Margaret GreenTree's patient labor while acknowledging that patient labor in itself may not create copyrightable work and therefore offering also the Free Art option. I realize that it may all be legally meaningless, but it seems as I close as I can come for the moment to balancing the various legal and ethical considerations. I've still not heard from her. Hopefully she's just on vacation and will eventually reply. I'm still open to replacing the notation in the Bach Chorales with Phil's work and offering those under Free Art license only. (Phil, if you will send me a gmail address (needed by googlecode.com), I will authorize it for commit privileges on the site). But please hold off from making extensive changes as I'd like to revise the lilypond files to achieve even greater separation between the notation and the output. (skip) Cheers, Mike Hi Mike, You've already burst the 2011's starting blocks and you carries on with taking a corner at top speed. ;-) At this rate I can't follow you without finishing in a nest of cuckoos (or, better, in a cuckoo clock). ;-) ;-) I like very much your enthusiam, one cannot do great things without it, but may be you misunderstood my solidarity. Don't be hurted but I was not planning to edit the site. My plans with the 371 chorales are a groß travail and I don't want add more that I was fixing for myself. My plans are as follows: In a first wave I'll like to release a book in several parts, depending of the spacing issues, you know, this famous problem which users and devs are always fighting with and which is not an own Lilypond's issue. By the way I'm currently wondering whether the duplicate chorales in Breikopf's edition was a workaround about it. Possibly. Then it is an well-known problem. With this release you'll get all the separate files for the chorales (the duplicates will be pointed out) under a Free Art license (*). Then you could make anything you want with them and, from my point of view, it would be a lot easier for students, musicologists... to check and understand the Margaret's work and to form an opinion if you format my free work as you did for Margaret Gentree. By the way don't forget she has edited corrected chorales and also chorales with instrumental parts which doesn't exist in Breitkopf. In a second wave I'll like to re-use and reorganize the free sources to release a book untitled very pompously (but it might change, it's just a poetic idea): J.S.Bach Chorales. Studies of anamorphosis. (In fact, to juxtapose the same themes of chorales). As you can see there is a groß travail to do, but be sure if you have problems with my files I do everything one possibly can to help you and facilitate your formatting. It's the meaning of my solidarity. I hope you are not upset. (*) I realize I forgot the tagline in my template. I have to add it. Following a recent discussion on lilypond-fr where Valentin told about photocopies of sheet music, I think I'll add this in the tagline (without the capitals): Copyleft: cette oeuvre est libre, vous pouvez la copier, la PHOTOCOPIER, la diffuser et la modifier. Is it possible? Cheers. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: center text vertically between staves - indicating keyboard changes in organ music
On 1/4/11 10:01 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 1/4/11 6:56 AM, Peter Van Kranenburg peter.van.kranenb...@meertens.knaw.nl wrote: Hello, How can I center text vercially between the staves of a PianoStaff? The two way's I can find in the learning manual (using lyrics and defining a Dynamics context, section A.2) seem a bit overdone for just a few marks. Is there another - more local - way? As far as I know, no. The only way I know of to get centered between two staves is to have a loose-line context between the staves, with an alignment of CENTER. In general, the text markup is associated with notes, and notes belong to staves. So the markup goes with a particular staff. I'm sorry that this is not as satisfying as you would wish it, but I believe it is accurate. Ok. I understand. Good to know. Thanks, Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Ottava horizontal shift
Hello all,
This is another perplexing thing. I am trying to figure out how to
shift the ottava indications directly over their corresponding chords.
There does not seem to be an obvious solution. So here is the miminmal
example. The end result should have 8va loco. 8va. loco. read in a
single line.
regards
Shane
version 2.13.0
\relative{
\once \override Staff.OttavaBracket #'dash-period = #0 \ottava #1
\barNumberCheck #190 \autoBeamOff
c' f c'8 \ottava #0 c, f c'8 ^loco. \once \override
Staff.OttavaBracket #'dash-period = #0 \ottava #1 c' f c'8
\ottava #0 c, f c'8 ^loco. }
I made a viable solution, but it does not resolve the issue of the 8va
not being centered over the note of origin.
\version 2.13.0
\relative{ \override Staff.OttavaBracket #'dash-period = #1 \ottava
#1 | \barNumberCheck #190 \autoBeamOff \set
Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 25)
c' f c'8 \ottava #0 \once \override TextScript #'extra-offset =
#'(-2.5 . -2.1) c, f c'8 ^loco. \ottava #1 c' f c'8
\ottava #0 c, f c'8 ^loco.
\ottava #1
}
p.s. misspelling shift is occasionally dangerous
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