Ottava horizontal shift

2011-01-04 Thread Shane Brandes
Hello all,

  This is another perplexing thing. I am trying to figure out how to
shift the ottava indications directly over their corresponding chords.
There does not seem to be an obvious solution. So here is the miminmal
example. The end result should have 8va loco. 8va. loco. read in a
single line.

regards
Shane

version "2.13.0"
\relative{
 \once \override Staff.OttavaBracket #'dash-period = #0  \ottava #1
\barNumberCheck #190 \autoBeamOff
   8  \ottava #0 8 ^"loco." \once \override
Staff.OttavaBracket #'dash-period = #0 \ottava #1 8
   \ottava #0 8 ^"loco."  }


I made a viable solution, but it does not resolve the issue of the 8va
not being centered over the note of origin.

\version "2.13.0"

\relative{ \override Staff.OttavaBracket #'dash-period = #1  \ottava
#1 | \barNumberCheck #190 \autoBeamOff \set
Score.proportionalNotationDuration  = #(ly:make-moment 1 25)
8  \ottava #0 \once \override TextScript #'extra-offset =
#'(-2.5 . -2.1) 8 ^"loco."  \ottava #1 8
\ottava #0 8 ^"loco."
\ottava #1

  }


p.s. misspelling shift is occasionally dangerous

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Re: center text vertically between staves - indicating keyboard changes in organ music

2011-01-04 Thread Peter Van Kranenburg

On 1/4/11 10:01 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:




On 1/4/11 6:56 AM, "Peter Van Kranenburg"
  wrote:


Hello,

How can I center text vercially between the staves of a PianoStaff?

The two way's I can find in the learning manual (using lyrics and
defining a Dynamics context, section A.2) seem a bit overdone for just a
few marks. Is there another - more local - way?


As far as I know, no.

The only way I know of to get centered between two staves is to have a
loose-line context between the staves, with an alignment of CENTER.

In general, the text markup is associated with notes, and notes belong to
staves.  So the markup goes with a particular staff.

I'm sorry that this is not as satisfying as you would wish it, but I believe
it is accurate.



Ok. I understand. Good to know.

Thanks,

Peter


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Re: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.

2011-01-04 Thread Phil Hézaine
Le 03/01/2011 19:28, Michael Ellis a écrit :
> Mike, Graham, Henning,
> 
> Thanks again, it's all good discussion.  For the time being, I've altered
> the home page on the solfege-resources site to offer two choices of License,
> namely Free Art license in addition to CC BY-NC-AS.  I've also added a
> couple paragraphs explaining my understanding of U.S. copyright law and
> urging users to accept the CC license with commercial restriction in honor
> of Margaret GreenTree's patient labor while acknowledging that patient labor
> in itself may not create copyrightable work and therefore offering also the
> Free Art option.   I realize that it may all be legally meaningless,  but it
> seems as I close as I can come for the moment to balancing the various legal
> and ethical  considerations.
> 
> I've still not heard from her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation and will
> eventually reply.
> 
> I'm still open to replacing the notation in the Bach Chorales with Phil's
> work and offering those under Free Art license only.  (Phil, if you will
> send me a gmail address (needed by googlecode.com), I will authorize it for
> commit privileges on the site).   But please hold off from making extensive
> changes as I'd like to revise the lilypond files to achieve even greater
> separation between the notation and the output.  

   (skip)
> Cheers,
> Mike

Hi Mike,

You've already burst the 2011's starting blocks and you carries on with
taking a corner at top speed. ;-)
At this rate I can't follow you without finishing in a nest of cuckoos
(or, better, in a cuckoo clock). ;-) ;-)
I like very much your enthusiam, one cannot do great things without it,
but may be you misunderstood my solidarity.
Don't be hurted but I was not planning to edit the site.
My plans with the 371 chorales are "a groß travail" and I don't want add
more that I was fixing for myself.
My plans are as follows:
In a first wave I'll like to release a book in several parts, depending
of the spacing issues, you know, this famous problem which users and
devs are always fighting with and which is not an own Lilypond's issue.
By the way I'm currently wondering whether the duplicate chorales in
Breikopf's edition was a workaround about it. Possibly. Then it is an
well-known problem.
With this release you'll get all the separate files for the chorales
(the duplicates will be pointed out) under a Free Art license (*). Then
you could make anything you want with them and, from my point of view,
it would be a lot easier for students, musicologists... to check and
understand the Margaret's work and to form an opinion if you format my
free work as you did for Margaret Gentree. By the way don't forget she
has edited corrected chorales and also chorales with instrumental parts
which doesn't exist in Breitkopf.

In a second wave I'll like to re-use and reorganize the free sources to
release a book untitled very pompously (but it might change, it's just a
poetic idea):

J.S.Bach Chorales. Studies of anamorphosis.
(In fact, to juxtapose the same themes of chorales).

As you can see there is a "groß travail" to do, but be sure if you have
problems with my files I do everything one possibly can to help you
and facilitate your formatting. It's the meaning of my solidarity.
I hope you are not upset.

(*) I realize I forgot the tagline in my template. I have to add it.
Following a recent discussion on lilypond-fr where Valentin told about
photocopies of sheet music, I think I'll add this in the tagline
(without the capitals):

Copyleft: cette oeuvre est libre, vous pouvez la copier, la PHOTOCOPIER,
la diffuser et la modifier.

Is it possible?
Cheers.

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Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?

2011-01-04 Thread Patrick Horgan

On 01/04/2011 06:47 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:

Just another data point, it compiles fine for my on a recent git pull 
from trunk on ubuntu Natty Narwhal.


Patrick

\version "2.12.2"

#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)

\paper {
 indent = 0.0
 ragged-last = ##f

}

\header {
   title = "Finn McCool"
   subtitle = "Concert Instruments"
   composer = "McNamara"
   meter = "Swing Ballad"
   copyright = "Tim McNamara 2010, All Rights Reserved"
}

harmonies = \chordmode {

r8
% 1
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7

% 5
bes2:min7 ges2:7
bes2:min7 ees2:7
ees2:min7 aes2:7
des1:maj7

% 9
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7

% 13
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
aes1:7
des1:maj7


}

melody = \relative c' {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\time 4/4
\clef treble
\key des\major

% 1
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break

% 5
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 9
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break

% 13
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break

\bar ":|"

}



\score

{
   <<

 \new ChordNames {
   \set chordChanges = ##t
   \harmonies
 }
 \new Staff \melody
   >>

}




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Re: center text vertically between staves - indicating keyboard changes in organ music

2011-01-04 Thread Carl Sorensen



On 1/4/11 6:56 AM, "Peter Van Kranenburg"
 wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> How can I center text vercially between the staves of a PianoStaff?
> 
> The two way's I can find in the learning manual (using lyrics and
> defining a Dynamics context, section A.2) seem a bit overdone for just a
> few marks. Is there another - more local - way?

As far as I know, no.

The only way I know of to get centered between two staves is to have a
loose-line context between the staves, with an alignment of CENTER.

In general, the text markup is associated with notes, and notes belong to
staves.  So the markup goes with a particular staff.

I'm sorry that this is not as satisfying as you would wish it, but I believe
it is accurate.

Thanks,

Carl Sorensen


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Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?

2011-01-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/4/11 7:47 AM, "Tim McNamara"  wrote:

> 
>> Given that there's been a paste which was incomplete, can you make a file
>> (which consists of a minimal example), compile it, see that the error occurs,
>> and then paste that entire file? I really would hate to have a bug go
>> unreported because of faulty reporting.
> 
> Sure, since all of my .ly files fail to compile with 2.12.3 that's easy.
> Here's a whole file that fails for me.  There's no melody notated as of yet,
> which simplifies things.

This file compiled perfectly for me on LilyPond 2.13.46 (compiled from git).

I'm using OSX 10.5.

HTH,

Carl


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Re: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.

2011-01-04 Thread Michael Ellis
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Graham Percival
 wrote:
> I think you are wrong.  I think that this Margaret person has
> created works that are under copyright, and you are taking those
> works and claiming to offer them under a license that she did not
> consent to.
>

Actually no.  A license is (in part) a promise that the licensor will
not sue the licensee so long as s/he adheres to the terms of the
license.  The licenses I offer, by law, can apply only to whatever
portions of the work are my original contributions.  Margaret's rights
are not abrogated in any way by a license between me and someone who
downloads one of the files from Solfege Resources.   She or her heirs
and assigns could still go after someone anyone who uses the files for
financial profit.  I'm merely promising that I won't go after them
with regard to my work. Moreover, I have diligently acknowledged
Margaret's work and urged users to respect her terms of use despite
that fact that there is, under U.S. law as I understand it, reason to
doubt that what's in my files (sequences of pitches and rhythms) are
anything other than minor alterations of music already in the public
domain.

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?

2011-01-04 Thread Tim McNamara

On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:11 AM, James Bailey wrote:

> 
> On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:52 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:44 PM, James Bailey wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>> 
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:25 PM, James Bailey wrote:
 
> I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but this compiled just 
> fine for me on my osx 10.6.5 on an intel iMac:
 
 Hmm, well doesn't seem to be a bug.  That was my main question.  Thanks, 
 guys!
>>> 
>>> I don't know what editor you use,
>> 
>> 
>> Emacs 23, Aquamacs or Fraise (the current form of Smultron).
>> 
>> 
>>> but usually when the error message points to something in init.ly, the 
>>> culprit is usually a missing brace.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For me the same files compile in 2.12.3 and fail in 2.13.4 without any 
>> changes to the files.  The problem only seems to exist if I am using 
>> \chordmode.  The error message is consistent, as pasted into previous posts. 
>>  Seemed odd to me.  But maybe it's a local problem somehow, since it doesn't 
>> seem to replicate for other folks.  Since 2.12.3 works, that's what I'm 
>> sticking with.
>> 
>> Thanks!
> 
> Given that there's been a paste which was incomplete, can you make a file 
> (which consists of a minimal example), compile it, see that the error occurs, 
> and then paste that entire file? I really would hate to have a bug go 
> unreported because of faulty reporting.

I forgot to mention:  it fails whether I run the compile command from Emacs, 
Aquamacs, Fraise or the built-in editor in Lilypond.



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Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?

2011-01-04 Thread Tim McNamara

On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:11 AM, James Bailey wrote:

> 
> On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:52 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:44 PM, James Bailey wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>> 
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:25 PM, James Bailey wrote:
 
> I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but this compiled just 
> fine for me on my osx 10.6.5 on an intel iMac:
 
 Hmm, well doesn't seem to be a bug.  That was my main question.  Thanks, 
 guys!
>>> 
>>> I don't know what editor you use,
>> 
>> 
>> Emacs 23, Aquamacs or Fraise (the current form of Smultron).
>> 
>> 
>>> but usually when the error message points to something in init.ly, the 
>>> culprit is usually a missing brace.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For me the same files compile in 2.12.3 and fail in 2.13.4 without any 
>> changes to the files.  The problem only seems to exist if I am using 
>> \chordmode.  The error message is consistent, as pasted into previous posts. 
>>  Seemed odd to me.  But maybe it's a local problem somehow, since it doesn't 
>> seem to replicate for other folks.  Since 2.12.3 works, that's what I'm 
>> sticking with.
>> 
>> Thanks!

Error in note above- 2.12.2 is what works for me, not 2.12.3.  D'oh.

> Given that there's been a paste which was incomplete, can you make a file 
> (which consists of a minimal example), compile it, see that the error occurs, 
> and then paste that entire file? I really would hate to have a bug go 
> unreported because of faulty reporting.

Sure, since all of my .ly files fail to compile with 2.12.3 that's easy.  
Here's a whole file that fails for me.  There's no melody notated as of yet, 
which simplifies things.


\version "2.12.2"

#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)

\paper {
indent = 0.0
ragged-last = ##f

} 

\header {
  title = "Finn McCool"
  subtitle = "Concert Instruments"
  composer = "McNamara"
  meter = "Swing Ballad"
  copyright = "Tim McNamara 2010, All Rights Reserved"
}

harmonies = \chordmode {

r8 
% 1
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7

% 5
bes2:min7 ges2:7
bes2:min7 ees2:7
ees2:min7 aes2:7
des1:maj7

% 9
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7

% 13
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
aes1:7
des1:maj7


}

melody = \relative c' {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\time 4/4
\clef treble
\key des\major

% 1
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break

% 5
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 9
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break

% 13
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break

\bar ":|"

}



\score 

{
  <<

\new ChordNames {
  \set chordChanges = ##t
  \harmonies
}
\new Staff \melody
  >>  

}



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center text vertically between staves - indicating keyboard changes in organ music

2011-01-04 Thread Peter Van Kranenburg

Hello,

How can I center text vercially between the staves of a PianoStaff?

The two way's I can find in the learning manual (using lyrics and 
defining a Dynamics context, section A.2) seem a bit overdone for just a 
few marks. Is there another - more local - way?


Shifting the text manually by changing the Y-offset is not really an 
option because the space between the staves is not fixed.


The reason:
I'm typesetting music for organ. For the keyboard part I use a 
PianoStaff. I want to indicate keyboard changes. E.g.

Both hands on Grand Clavier
Left hand on Grand Clavier, right hand on Positif
Right hand on Positif, left hand on Grand Clavier
Both hands on Positif
Both hands on Echo
etc.

In the cases where both hands go to the same keyboard, I would like to 
put the indication vertically centered between the staves of the PianoStaff.


Thanks in advance.

best regards,
Peter van Kranenburg



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Re: Alternate style sheets

2011-01-04 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2011-01-04 12:29, Phil Holmes wrote:
> The LilyPond web site (http://lilypond.org/website/) and the
> documentation (e.g.
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html)
> both have alternate style sheets, which means that we have 4 more style
> sheets to maintain than we really need.  Does anyone actually use them? 

I switched to Andrew's design for my local version of the manuals when
these styles were discussed the first time.  I never spent thoughts on
this since then, and I don't feel irritated when I open the online
references from another PC where my settings do not apply.  No need to
keep them from my POV.
On a closer look, I also think that only the default CSS for the docs
integrates well with the design of the main site.

By the way, on the main page, both alternate designs let the LilyPond
logo collide with other stuff on my machine (Firefox 3.6.13, Ubuntu
Maverick default).


Cheers,
Alexander

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Alternate style sheets

2011-01-04 Thread Phil Holmes
The LilyPond web site (http://lilypond.org/website/) and the documentation 
(e.g. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html) 
both have alternate style sheets, which means that we have 4 more style 
sheets to maintain than we really need.  Does anyone actually use them?  And 
if you do, would it be a serious problem if they were got rid of?  Please 
shout if you need them to be kept, letting us know what use you put them to.


Thanks.

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RE: testing lilydev

2011-01-04 Thread James Lowe
Hello,






From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org 
[lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Phil 
Holmes [m...@philholmes.net]
Sent: 04 January 2011 10:12
To: Helge Kruse; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: testing lilydev

- Original Message -
From: "Helge Kruse" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: testing lilydev


> Am 03.01.2011 23:15, schrieb Helge Kruse:
>> Am 03.01.2011 19:56, schrieb Phil Holmes:
>>> If you go to the page above, and look for "Advanced tasks" you'll find a
>>> link in the section indented with "Note:"
>>>
>>
>> I got it. Thanks,
>
> Is there any good place where to get help to run this in VirtualBox? I
> think about the screen resolution but don't want to stress the Lilypond
> mailing list with such questions.


You may get problems with the screen size if you don't follow the
instructions in the CG exactly - in particular, using "install" as the
initial command with the VM.

---

Yes you need the Virtual Box Guest Additions as Phil, quite right says the CG 
tells you how to install all that.

James

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Re: testing lilydev

2011-01-04 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: "Helge Kruse" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: testing lilydev



Am 03.01.2011 23:15, schrieb Helge Kruse:

Am 03.01.2011 19:56, schrieb Phil Holmes:

If you go to the page above, and look for "Advanced tasks" you'll find a
link in the section indented with "Note:"



I got it. Thanks,


Is there any good place where to get help to run this in VirtualBox? I 
think about the screen resolution but don't want to stress the Lilypond 
mailing list with such questions.



You may get problems with the screen size if you don't follow the 
instructions in the CG exactly - in particular, using "install" as the 
initial command with the VM.


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Re: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.

2011-01-04 Thread Mark Austin
On 4 January 2011 09:17, Graham Percival  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:28:29PM -0500, Michael Ellis wrote:
>>  I've also
>>    added a couple paragraphs explaining my understanding of U.S. copyright
>>    law and urging users to accept the CC license with commercial restriction
>>    in honor of Margaret GreenTree's patient labor while acknowledging that
>>    patient labor in itself may not create copyrightable work and therefore
>>    offering also the Free Art option.
>
> I think you are wrong.  I think that this Margaret person has
> created works that are under copyright, and you are taking those
> works and claiming to offer them under a license that she did not
> consent to.
>
>>    I've still not heard from her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation and will
>>    eventually reply.
>
> A lack of response should never be construed as permission to do
> whatever you want.
>
> - Graham
>

A quick comment.There are two (linked) types of copyright. If you
originate a work - in this context compose some music - you have
copyright control over any production of that work. Once that
copyright has lapsed, a third party can reproduce the work in, for
example, a book. They then get typograpghical copyright: which means,
in effect, that you cannot reproduce the book, but you could reset the
music into a work of your own. For music, there is a further
complication. If someone arranges music, e.g. by adding chords, they
gain a copyright on the arrangement, but not on the original music.
For example, I am produciong a book of tradition British folk tunes
from a music worksshop some years go. The tunes are traditional, and
thus out of copyright, but the chords/arrangements are copyright, and
I had to get permission from the family.

-- 
Mark Austin

--
For Whigs admit no force but argument
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Re: tempo and rehearsal juxtaposition

2011-01-04 Thread Xavier Scheuer
2011/1/4 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng :
>
> Hello,
>   I know how to write q=ca120, by reassigning rehearsal mark. But in my
> situation, there's a rehearsal 5 and I'd like to add "Adagio (q=ca50)". How
> to do that?

Since 2.13  \tempo \markup { Text }  works.
So simply replace  \mark  by  \tempo  and use the same markup.
Remove also your  \once \override Score.RehearsalMark ...
since they will probably be no longer necessary.

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-04 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 4 January 2011 00:35, James Bailey  wrote:
>
> It seems, at least according to section 1.1.3 on accidentals, that this is
> intended behavior:
> default
>
> This is the default typesetting behavior. It corresponds to
> eighteenth-century common practice: accidentals are remembered to the end of
> the measure in which they occur and only in their own octave. Thus, in the
> example below, no natural signs are printed before the b in the second
> measure or the last c:

No, this is not the same case.
In NR 1.1.3 there is no clef change.

And according to this rule that  "accidentals are remembered to the end
of the measure in which they occur and only in their own octave"
the c-natural in the second measure of my code _MUST_ be printed,
because it is in the same octave as the first note of the measure (cis2)
although written in a different clef.

Otherwise (as it is now, i.e. without printed natural) we should
conclude that the second note is a c-sharp also.
"accidentals are remembered to the end of the measure in which they
occur and only in their own octave"
_This is not the case_  We want a c-natural: the natural _MUST_ be
printed.

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Solfege Resources -- 404 bach chorales in Lilypond format with Movable Do solfege.

2011-01-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:28:29PM -0500, Michael Ellis wrote:
>  I've also
>added a couple paragraphs explaining my understanding of U.S. copyright
>law and urging users to accept the CC license with commercial restriction
>in honor of Margaret GreenTree's patient labor while acknowledging that
>patient labor in itself may not create copyrightable work and therefore
>offering also the Free Art option.

I think you are wrong.  I think that this Margaret person has
created works that are under copyright, and you are taking those
works and claiming to offer them under a license that she did not
consent to.

>I've still not heard from her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation and will
>eventually reply.

A lack of response should never be construed as permission to do
whatever you want.

- Graham

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