Re: Tie collision with note

2011-03-19 Thread Nicholas Moe 
That makes the tie how I want it, but I need to shift the middle notes
to the right in the second measure to show that they are their own
voice, whilst keeping the stems up. How could I do that?

Nick

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Stan Sanderson
 wrote:
>
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Nicholas Moe wrote:
>
>> I am working on engraving an organ piece, César Franck's Cantabile. In
>> the LH in mm. 16–17, the middle voice is tied, but the tie collides
>> with the notes in the upper voice. Ideally, its shape and position
>> should match the tie in the upper voice, only shifted down. How can I
>> achieve this?
>>
>> Here is the tiny example:
>>
>> % begin example
>>
>> \version "2.13.54"
>>
>> \relative c' {
>> \clef "bass"
>> \voiceOne
>> <<
>>                { d1~ d2 c }
>>                \new Voice {
>>                        \voiceThree
>>                        \shiftOff
>>                        a1~
>>                        \shiftOn
>>                        a2 g
>>                }
>>                \new Voice {
>>                        \voiceTwo
>>                        d2\( f
>>                        e2 e\)
>>                }

>> }
>>
>> % end example
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nick
>
>
> This is possibly not what you want, but it looks good to me.
> use
>   <<{1 ~ 2 }\\{d,2( f e e)}>>
> Stan
>
>
>
>

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Re: OpenType ligatures

2011-03-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG 

> Only common "f" ligatures work in gedit : ff, fi, fl, ffi, ffl, ffj,
> fj.  st, ſt, ct, ſh, ſi, ſl, ſſ and sp don't work.

Normally, such old-fashioned ligatures are disabled and have to be
explicitly switched on by selecting a proper OpenType feature.
Cf. the `liga' (standard ligatures), `clig' (contextual ligatures),
`dlig' (discretionary ligatures), `hlig' (historical ligatures), and
`rlig' (required ligatures) features.

I suspect that you have to activate `hlig'.  Unfortunately, this isn't
yet possible within LilyPond; see this thread

  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2010-11/msg00126.html

and lilypond bug entry #1388.


Werner
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Re: Tie collision with note

2011-03-19 Thread Stan Sanderson 


On Mar 19, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Nicholas Moe wrote:


I am working on engraving an organ piece, César Franck's Cantabile. In
the LH in mm. 16–17, the middle voice is tied, but the tie collides
with the notes in the upper voice. Ideally, its shape and position
should match the tie in the upper voice, only shifted down. How can I
achieve this?

Here is the tiny example:

% begin example

\version "2.13.54"

\relative c' {
\clef "bass"
\voiceOne
<<
{ d1~ d2 c }
\new Voice {
\voiceThree
\shiftOff
a1~
\shiftOn
a2 g
}
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo
d2\( f
e2 e\)
}



}

% end example

Thanks,

Nick



This is possibly not what you want, but it looks good to me.
use
   <<{1 ~ 2 }\\{d,2( f e e)}>>
Stan




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Tie collision with note

2011-03-19 Thread Nicholas Moe 
I am working on engraving an organ piece, César Franck's Cantabile. In
the LH in mm. 16–17, the middle voice is tied, but the tie collides
with the notes in the upper voice. Ideally, its shape and position
should match the tie in the upper voice, only shifted down. How can I
achieve this?

Here is the tiny example:

% begin example

\version "2.13.54"

\relative c' {
\clef "bass"
\voiceOne
<<
{ d1~ d2 c }
\new Voice {
\voiceThree
\shiftOff
a1~
\shiftOn
a2 g
}
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo
d2\( f
e2 e\)
}
>>
}

% end example

Thanks,

Nick

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Re: OpenType ligatures

2011-03-19 Thread Xavier Scheuer 
On 20 March 2011 01:02, Bertrand Bordage  wrote:
>
> Thanks for your response ! I'll have a look at Pango to find a good
> solution.
> Only common "f" ligatures work in gedit : ff, fi, fl, ffi, ffl, ffj, fj.
> st, ſt, ct, ſh, ſi, ſl, ſſ and sp don't work.

IIUC LilyPond (Pango?) does not have OpenType features.
But there is a long-term project to develop an API similar to the
fontspec interface.

See Werner's reply here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2010-11/msg00128.html

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: 2.13.54 breaks NoteNames vertical spacing

2011-03-19 Thread Xavier Scheuer 
On 20 March 2011 01:05, Michael Ellis  wrote:
>
> Just installed 2.13.54 on OS X.  Attached images show what happens to
> the NoteNames engraver (which I use every day) under this release.  In
> 2.12,  the NoteNames output lays close beneath the lyric line.  In
> 2.13.54 the gap is quite large and the output collides with markup
> above the next staff.  Is there a workaround?

Looks like a problem of staff-affinity not defined for  NoteNames
context or something like that.

This definitely deserves to be reported.
Could you send a message to  bug-lilyp...@gnu.org  with a proper minimal
example of code?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Release candidate 3 of 2.14 - LilyPond 2.13.54 released

2011-03-19 Thread Xavier Scheuer 
2011/3/20 Frédéric Bron :
>
> Another strange thing: although outside-staff-priorities seem to not
> have changed between 2.12 and 2.13 (I compared define-grobs.scm),
> there is something strange:
> I have an example where OttavaBracket, text markup and Tempo mark get
> inverted although using the same code. Try to compile the following
> snippet with 2.12.3 and 2.13.54 and you will see that the vertical
> layout is not in the same order.
>
> \layout {
>\context { \Score
>\override MetronomeMark #'padding = #0
>\override MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #200
>}
> }
> \relative c' {
>\tempo "ROMANZE" 4 = 66
>\ottava #1 c''1^\markup { "clar. 2" } \ottava #0
> }
>
> By the way, is it possible to find in the doc. a list of all default
> outside-staff-priorities?

I would suggest you to send your (3) reports in several messages with
appropriate subjects to  bug-lilyp...@gnu.org .
So they could be added to the tracker and then eventually fixed.

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Release candidate 3 of 2.14 - LilyPond 2.13.54 released

2011-03-19 Thread Xavier Scheuer 
2011/3/20 Frédéric Bron :
>
> [...]
>
> By the way, is it possible to find in the doc. a list of all default
> outside-staff-priorities?

There is one in the Learning Manual, LM 4.4.3 Outside-staff objects
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/learning/outside_002dstaff-objects

Can't find it in the Notation Reference, though.

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: OpenType ligatures

2011-03-19 Thread Bertrand Bordage 
Thanks for your response ! I'll have a look at Pango to find a good
solution.
Only common "f" ligatures work in gedit : ff, fi, fl, ffi, ffl, ffj, fj.
st, ſt, ct, ſh, ſi, ſl, ſſ and sp don't work.

Regards,
Bertrand
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Re: Release candidate 3 of 2.14 - LilyPond 2.13.54 released

2011-03-19 Thread Frédéric Bron 
> LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
> upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
> this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
> manual on the website section about Development.
> http://lilypond.org/development.html

Another strange thing: although outside-staff-priorities seem to not
have changed between 2.12 and 2.13 (I compared define-grobs.scm),
there is something strange:
I have an example where OttavaBracket, text markup and Tempo mark get
inverted although using the same code. Try to compile the following
snippet with 2.12.3 and 2.13.54 and you will see that the vertical
layout is not in the same order.

\layout {
\context { \Score
\override MetronomeMark #'padding = #0
\override MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #200
}
}
\relative c' {
\tempo "ROMANZE" 4 = 66
\ottava #1 c''1^\markup { "clar. 2" } \ottava #0
}

By the way, is it possible to find in the doc. a list of all default
outside-staff-priorities?

Kind regards,

Frédéric

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Re: Release candidate 3 of 2.14 - LilyPond 2.13.54 released

2011-03-19 Thread Frédéric Bron 
> LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
> upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
> this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
> manual on the website section about Development.
> http://lilypond.org/development.html

I do not find anything in "Changes" about VerticalAlignment.
convert-ly does not change the following code but it fails with
2.13.54 when it passed with 2.12:

\layout {
\context { \Score
\override VerticalAlignment #'max-stretch =
#ly:align-interface::calc-max-stretch
}
}

Kind regards,

Frédéric

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Re: Release candidate 3 of 2.14 - LilyPond 2.13.54 released

2011-03-19 Thread Frédéric Bron 
> LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
> upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
> this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
> manual on the website section about Development.
> http://lilypond.org/development.html

There is an issue with Notation Manual in big format:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation-big-page.html

when clicking on an item of the table of contents (with firefox 3.6.15
on Windows), I get an error message:
"Erreur d'encodage de contenu. La page que vous essayez de voir ne
peut être affichée car elle utilise un type de compression invalide ou
non pris en charge."

If I try to translate, it could give:
"Content encoding error. The page you try to see cannot be displayed
because it uses an invalid or unsupported compression type"

Frédéric

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Re: Release candidate 3 of 2.14 - LilyPond 2.13.54 released

2011-03-19 Thread Frédéric Bron 
> LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
> upcoming 2.14 stable release.

I noticed that convert-ly does not converts auto beaming settings.
Kind regards,
Frédéric

Parsing...
indications.ly:6:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 3 8 'Score)

indications.ly:6:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 3 8 'Score)
indications.ly:9:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (revert-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 3 8 'Score)
indications.ly:9:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (revert-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 3 8 'Score)
indications.ly:12:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 1 4 'Score)
indications.ly:12:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 1 4 'Score)
indications.ly:13:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:13:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:16:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (revert-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 1 4 'Score)
indications.ly:16:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (revert-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 1 4 'Score)
indications.ly:17:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (revert-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:17:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (revert-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 3 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:34:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 2 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:34:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 2 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:40:17: error: GUILE signaled an error for the
expression beginning here
#
 (revert-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 2 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:40:17: error: GUILE signaled an error for the
expression beginning here
#
 (revert-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 2 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:42:17: error: GUILE signaled an error for the
expression beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 2 4) 2 4 'Score)
indications.ly:42:17: error: GUILE signaled an error for the
expression beginning here
#
 (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 2 4) 2 4 'Score)

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[ANNOUNCE] Schikkers-List v0.0.3 -- the Look Less Ikli release

2011-03-19 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen 
I'm happy to announce Schikkers-List v0.0.3 -- the Look Less Ikli
release

Although it's mostly useless, be sure to get it while it's hot


http://lilypond.org/schikkers-list/download/schikkers-list-0.0.3-4.linux-x86.sh
http://lilypond.org/schikkers-list/download/schikkers-list-0.0.3-4.mingw.exe

Also check out the new and improved website, and logo

http://lilypond.org/schikkers-list/


NEWS

  * Font scaling has been redone and looks at the display's DPI
  * All glyphs are drawn in black, for a less debug feel
  * GUILE-2.0 inside!  Fresh with 13 new cross build patches to get it
to also...
  * Run on Windows
  * --debug option enables grey feta items and debug messages
  * Templates with lyrics, multiple staffs and multiple voices per staff

Using Guile-2.0 and Guile-Gnome and featuring .go-auto-compilation on
GNU/Linux and Windows.  The first run may be quite slow because of
this, the next runs are extra snappy.  Also, the first run on Windows
may fail, just run a second time.

Here are some screen shots

http://lilypond.org/schikkers-list/images/


WHAT IS Schikkers List?

Schikkers List is a GUI for LilyPond.  Although there are several
advanced front-ends for editing LilyPond files, graphical as well as
text-based, none of them uses LilyPond to do the actual rendering.
Schikkers List aims to be a dumb snappy interactive graphical shell
and user interface, while outsourcing the smart music layouting to
LilyPond.


THANK YOU

Thanks go out to Nicolas Sceaux and Valentin Villenave for their
support and suggestions, to Han-Wen Nienhuys for finding an ugly font
scaling bug, to Patrick McCarty for his Guile-2.0 work on LilyPond and
to the Guile team, notably wingo and dsmith for their prompt help on
irc on my many questions getting Guile-2.0 to cross build and run
(esp. for MinGW).


Enjoy,
Jan.

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control notelength via variable?

2011-03-19 Thread TaoCG 

Hi,

I need to control the length of rest and notes with a variable.
something like:
len = 2
r\len

this doesn't work of course but is there a way to do this?
I tried overriding duration-log but it only changes the visual appearance.

Regards,
Tao
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Re: OpenType ligatures

2011-03-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys 
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Bertrand Bordage
 wrote:
> I noticed LilyPond only support two text ligatures : fi and fl. Just as
> "Century Schoolbook".
> I am using a font that support several ligatures : ſt, ct, Th, sp, etc.
> For now I copy/paste when I meet these ligatures.
> There is undoubtly a best way to achieve this, as fi & fl work. But I can't
> find how to do this. Few hours of code browsing hasn't helped.  :o(

AFAIK, the logic for ligatures sits in Pango; do the ligatures work in
other gnome/gtk applications, such as gedit?

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Re: Resetting bar count and showing alternate fingering

2011-03-19 Thread Robin Bannister 
Javier Ruiz wrote: 
just adding [\bar "|."] doesn't reset lilypond's automatic bar generator. 


You can use \cadenzaOn to turn off the bar generator. 



a set of alternate fingering digits stacked vertically. 


Lilypond doen't object to you asking for two fingers on one note. 
If that is too simple an approach, have a look at 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-04/msg00458.html



Cheers, 
Robin 

\new Staff {
  \cadenzaOn
  \relative c''' {
g8-5[ f-4] e-3[ e-3 d-2 d]-2 c4-1
  } \bar "|."
  \relative c''' {
g16-4[ f-3] e-2[ e-3 d-2 d]-3 c4-2
  } \bar "|."
  \relative c'''{
g16-4[ f-3] f-4[ e-3 d-2 d]-1 c-4[ b-3 a-2 g-1] c8-4
  } \bar "|."
  \relative c' {
c16-2-3[ c-1-2 d-2-3 d-1-2]
e16-2-3[ e-1-2 f-2-3 f-1-2]
g16-2-3[ g a a] b[ b] c8-2-3
  } \bar "|"
  \relative c' {
c16-3-4[ c-2-3 c-1-2]
e16-3-4[ e-2-3 e-1-2]
g16[ g g] c8-4-5
  } \bar "|."
}
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Re: Convert Lilypond to MusiXTeX

2011-03-19 Thread Marc Hohl 

Am 19.03.2011 12:28, schrieb Xavier:

Hi all !

I just discovered Lilypond, and found out the way to export to pdf using
lilypond-book and .lytex.

Therefore, I wonder if there exists a way to convert .ly to anything readable by
"MusiXTeX" (a TeX-package). Maybe a script or something like that...

Hello Xavier,

I still use MusiXTeX sometimes, and AFAIK there is no such converter.
On the other hand, Lilypond's output look way better than MusiXTeX,
so I think there is little use of converting from .ly to MusiXTeX.

Regards,

Marc

Regards,
Xavier


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Convert Lilypond to MusiXTeX

2011-03-19 Thread Xavier 
Hi all !

I just discovered Lilypond, and found out the way to export to pdf using
lilypond-book and .lytex.

Therefore, I wonder if there exists a way to convert .ly to anything readable by
"MusiXTeX" (a TeX-package). Maybe a script or something like that...

Regards,
Xavier


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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan 
Hi Michael,

> The reason most musicians despise the Pachelbel Canon
> has nothing to do with the quality of the composition. They're
> just sick of it, largely because it became so popular in the late '70s

And beyond:


Enjoy!
Kieren.

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Re: Resetting bar count and showing alternate fingering

2011-03-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan 
Hi Javier,

> Is there a way to trigger lilypond to arbitrarily reset its bar counter 
> mid-staff?

You can use \partial.
You could use skip notes.
You could also make the last note take up the remaining amount (e.g., c4*3).

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Suppress NoteNames output on ties ?

2011-03-19 Thread Janek Warchoł 
2011/3/18 Michael Ellis :
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Michael Ellis
>  wrote:
>> Is it possible to tell  the NoteNames engraver to print the name for
>> only the first note of a sequence of tied notes?
>>
>>     mymusic = { c'4 c' ~ c'2 }
>>     \score {
>>         <<
>>         \new Voice  \mymusic
>>         \context NoteNames \mymusic
>>         >>
>>     }
>>
>
> Didn't get any replies. Does anyone know the answer to this?

I'm pretty sure that this is one of the things easily done with
Scheme. Unfortunately i don't know Scheme so i cannot say anything
more meaningful :/

cheers,
Janek

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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-19 Thread Patrick Horgan 

On 03/17/2011 07:15 AM, Marc Mouries wrote:
This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who 
deserves to create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen to 
music made by someone that does not practice?" and who wants to listen 
to music played by a computer? Sure many times, nowadays, the 
rendition of a computer playing is quite good but who cares? Art 
conveys emotions which are the one thing that make us human and thus 
should be played by human. What's the end goal of such system? Can you 
describe in what is that helpful? Are we one day going to only listen 
to robots playing music?



 Where *will* the limits be, or where *should* the limits be?


Yes very good question. One thing that comes to mind is that I don't 
want to arrive at a point where musician will be teaching computers to 
play instead of learning to play themselves.
We're long past that point.  Many many pop and rock and hip hop 
keyboardists can't really play, i.e. if you asked them to play some 
sheet music or reproduce a particular song, they couldn't do it, but 
they can program loops and effects and assign them to keys and produce 
some excellent music.  Their instrument is the programming and their 
creativity and imagination.


Patrick


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Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-19 Thread Federico Bruni 
Il giorno ven, 18/03/2011 alle 16.54 +0100, Francisco Vila ha scritto:
> The attached patch includes and documents the Articulate script.

there's a typo in line 76 of the patch:

+etc., and take rallentendo and accelerando into account.

s/rallentendo/rallentando




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