Re: tabloid papersize

[James]

Hello,

On 29 February 2012 18:05, Neil Thornock  wrote:
> While we're at it, it would be nice to enable "ledger" (17x11) --
> noted in paper.scm but not included for some reason.

This and a few other sizes have been added and will be in the next
development release - 2.15.34 (I believe).

Thanks for taking the time to suggest this.

-- 
--

James

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Re: Add more space between arbitrary groups of notes

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Svetlana:

> I want more space only between phrasing slurs, not between each note

What about this solution?

\version "2.15.32"

\layout {
  \context {
\Score
\override BreathingSign #'transparent = ##t
\override BreathingSign #'X-extent = #'(0 . 1)
  }
}

theMusic = \relative c' {
  c\( d e f
  g\) \breathe g f\( e
  d e\) \breathe d c
}

\score { \theMusic }

Hope this helps!
Kieren.

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Re: wrong beaming

[luis jure]

on 2012-03-15 at 16:22 Mark Knoop wrote:

>\set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
>\set subdivideBeams = ##t

yes! thank you very much. (when the triplet is in the second half of the
quarter note, i still have to hard-code a manual beam, though. works great
when the triplet is in the first half).


best,


lj






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Re: wrong beaming

[luis jure]

on 2012-03-15 at 16:23 Carl Sorensen wrote:

> What issues do you believe it is related to?

i thought that it might be related to issues like 11 and 2113, for
example: 

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=11
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2113

(not the same, though)


>"Similar", or identical?

well, identical is a very strong word... but as far as i can see, yes, the
results are exactly the same in 2.14.2 and in 2.15.33.


>You never say what correct output you want.

sorry about that, please see the attached file.
it's the result of this code (thanks, mark):

\version "2.15.32"

\relative c' {
\set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\set subdivideBeams = ##t
\time 2/4
c16[ c \times 2/3 { c8 c16] }
\times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c
}

what other options would be considered correct?

best,

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.4

[Valentin Villenave]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Wilbert Berendsen  wrote:
> Tab and Shift-tab handle the indent, Ctrl+I inserts a plain Tab.

Yeah, I think Ctrl-I as in "re-indent the selected part" was a
LilyPondTool/jEdit thing.

Speaking of confusing shortcuts: Ctrl-D used to mean "comment this
line" (that's the default in Kate I think), now it means "Delete" ->
I've inadvertently lost a few lines because of that :-)

> To keep Frescobaldi simple its indenting defaults to the
> LilyPond-recommended way of indenting. But you can override the
> behaviour by placing document variables in the document (see
> manual->editor->document variables).

Wow. Wouldn't have thought of that.

> I put much love in the PDF view to make it better than the old one (I
> hope ;-) You can copy images: drag a square with the right button or
> Shift-left button, and then choose "Copy to Image" in the context menu
> or the Edit menu. It even copies images in a specified DPI setting,
> instead of the current scale! You can drag both the image or the
> image's file, and also specify the antialiasing, background color
> (which in the "Copy to Image" dialog defaults to white :-) and whether
> to auto-crop the image.

OK. I had missed the menu entry.

> And did you notice the magnifying glass? Ctrl+Click in the Music View!

I did not. I only used Ctrl-mousewheel (it wouldn't have occured to me ;)

> The old pdf view did not support finding point and click objects (due to
> Okular limitations), but the new one has: Ctrl+J highlights the object
> the text cursor is at.

Yes, that must be the most welcome new feature.

Plus, since I rarely have a mouse (I'm running ratpoison these days),
I've come to realize that Frescobaldi can be easily be controlled with
the keyboard only!

> I tried to make the config pages simple and not too crowded. But I think
> an 'Editor' page is needed, with settings related to editing behaviour,
> indenting etc.

That's what I'd be expecting to see, indeed.

> Please take a look at the snippets manager, it is quite powerful and
> also powers the File->New from template menu. It has support for python
> scripts as well and some nice default snippets. A larger library could
> be put on the Frescobaldi website.

Yeah, I should consider using it for quick tuplets and stuff.

> There is: see www.frescobaldi.org/download . The Windows installer
> works very well! I have no Mac to test and build a Mac installer.
> But users are using Frescobaldi on Mac OS X and it works.

Cool. I hope to see a Mac application available for download soon!

> Yes there are many French translators, and I can't see which which
> translations are the best. It would be nice if someone with good
> understanding of LilyPond and Frescobaldi and translating desktop
> applications could 'govern' the French translation :-)

Well, I'd be happy to :-)

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,
V.

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Re: Variables: structure vs layout

[Francisco Vila]

El 15/03/2012 16:35, "James Harkins"  escribió:

> I guess it's a fairly vague question. I guess the best way to narrow it
down is -- especially asking experienced users -- what level of
"atomization" seems to work the best for variables?

I'd use a variable for each voice undoubtedly. Use spacing rests as a
padding.

Paco
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Re: moving rhythmic dots down

[-Eluze]

please always reply to the list!


Just a quick question -- I'm making a glissando that goes across several
unstemmed noteheads; I need to move any rhythmic dots down, so that the
glissando doesn't obscure them. What's the proper override for this?


Eluze wrote:
> 
> use \dotsDown (or \voiceTwo )
> 

Jeffrey Trevino wrote:
> 
> Some questions about this: Why does \voiceTwo have the same effect as
> \dotsDown?
> 
\dotsDown just directs dots below the staff line while \voiceTwo (or
\voiceFour) directs all items down (stems, dots, slurs, ties, phrasing
slurs, dynamics, text spanners and tuplet brackets,…)  - it's up to you to
decide what you really want.

Jeffrey Trevino wrote:
> 
> Also, moving the dots down has resolved the case in which the glissando
> line moves up from an initial notehead; however, if the line needs to go
> down, the problem is different. I either need to move the dots down even
> further, or I need to invert the stems and then move the dots up. Is there
> a /dotsUp for this new case?
> 
> 
maybe you should provide a small example of what you are trying to do and
where there are problems - that makes it easier to find solutions!

hth
Eluze


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Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?

[Father Gordon Gilbert]

Yes it should.  Especially for us non-geeks who understand a bit of
this kind of thing.  We need to know where to click and exactly what
to type.

Blessings,

Gordon+

On 15/03/2012, Carl Sorensen  wrote:
>
>
> On 3/15/12 5:36 AM, "Father Gordon Gilbert"  wrote:
>
>>Hi guys,
>>
>>For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond.
>> Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all
>>worked!
>
> I think this is a reflection of a solution to issue 1948.
>
> The windows installer no longer adds a path entry (by design), so the user
> will need to add their own path in the future.  Perhaps this should be
> part of the Frescobaldi documentation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>


-- 
Fr. Gordon Gilbert
Penetanguishene, ON

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Re: Combining lyrics lines

[Reedmace Star]

* 2012-03-15 21:53 +0100Janek Warchoł:
> * 20012-03-15 3:01 PM, Reedmace Star
> 
> Search for "centering the new Lyrics" thread by Keith OHara, from
> December 2010.  it might be exactly what you're looking for.


Thank you, yes, that was exactly what I needed.



For reference, this is my example fixed:


\version "2.14.2"

\layout {
  \context {
\Lyrics
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'nonstaff-nonstaff-spacing
   #'minimum-distance = ##f
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'nonstaff-unrelatedstaff-spacing
   #'minumum-distance = ##f
\override LyricText #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0.6 . 2.0)
  }
}

<<
  \new Staff <<
\new Voice = "a" { f'4 g' r2 | s1 }
\new Voice = "b" { s1| a'2 g' }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "a" \lyricmode { may -- be }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "b" \lyricmode { that the }
>>


Best regards,

Reedmace Star

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Frenched score with glissandi

[Siska Ádám]

Dear List,


I'd like to forcefully remove a staff from an orchestral score at a given 
point. Here's the scenario:

There are 6 violas playing in 2 staves (Vle 1-3 in the first and Vle 4-6 in the 
second). From some point, all the violas play the same material, so I'd like to 
remove one of the staves to avoid duplications. However, I can't find out how 
to achieve this. I enabled 'frenched spacing' with \RemoveEmptyStaves, but it 
seems that the hidden notes that end the glissandi (created with \hideNotes) 
will keep the staff 'alive', as in the attached example.

(Note that this example is a minimal extract, it doesn't contain the rest of 
the orchestra, however, there's a dummy timeline and a dummy first page 
inserted, to simulate the actual situation).

Does anybody have an idea about how to activate the frenched spacing in this 
specific case?


Thanks,
Ádám


%%%
Here's the example:
%%%


\version "2.14.1"
#(set-default-paper-size "b4")
#(set-global-staff-size 12)

#(define adjust-for-note-head(
  lambda (grob)(
let* ((refp (ly:grob-system grob))
   (bar-coord (ly:grob-relative-coordinate grob refp X))
   (all (ly:grob-array->list (ly:grob-object refp 'all-elements)))
   (note-heads
 (filter
   (lambda (n)
 (eq? (assq-ref (ly:grob-property n 'meta) 'name)
  'NoteColumn))
   all))
   (note-head-coords
 (map
   (lambda (heads)
 (interval-center (ly:grob-extent heads refp X)))
   note-heads))
   (coords-to-right
 (filter
   (lambda (coord) (< bar-coord coord))
   note-head-coords))
   (closest-coord
 (if (pair? coords-to-right)
 (apply min
   (map (lambda (coord) (- coord bar-coord))
coords-to-right))
 0)))
  (set! (ly:grob-property grob 'extra-offset) (cons closest-coord 0))
)
  )
)

dottedNoteHead = {
  \once \override NoteHead  #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
  \once \override NoteHead #'text = \markup { \concat { \musicglyph #"dots.dot" 
" " \musicglyph #"dots.dot" " " \musicglyph #"dots.dot" } }
}

timing = {
  \relative d'' {
\hideNotes
\time 8/4 \mark "8" s4*8 \pageBreak
\time 5/4 \mark "5" s4*5 \noBreak
\time 5/4 \mark "5" s4*5 \noBreak
\time 5/4 \mark "5" s4*5 \noBreak
\time 5/4 \mark "5" s4*5 \noBreak
\time 8/4 \mark "8" s4*8 \noBreak
\time 3/4 \mark "3" s4*3 \noBreak
\time 3/4 \mark "3" s4*3 \noBreak
\time 3/4 \mark "3" s4*3 \noBreak
\time 4/4 \mark "4" s4*4 \break
\time 4/4 \mark "4" s4*4 \noBreak
\time 5/4 \mark "5" s4*5 \noBreak
\time 4/4 \mark "4" s4*4 \noBreak
\time 3/4 \mark "3" s4*3 \noBreak
\time 4/4 \mark "4" s4*4 \noBreak
\time 3/4 \mark "3" s4*3 \noBreak
\time 3/4 \mark "3" s4*3 \noBreak
\time 3/4 \mark "3" s4*3 \noBreak
\time 4/4 \mark "4" s4*4 \noBreak
\time 4/4 \mark "4" s4*4 \noBreak
\time 3/4 \mark "3" s4*3 \pageBreak
\time 5/4 \mark "5" s4*5
  \unHideNotes}
}

\score {
  <<
\new Staff {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Dummy"
  \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Dummy"
  << { \timing } \\ { \repeat unfold 94 { d'4 } } >>
}
\new StaffGroup <<
  \new Staff {
\relative d' {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \center-column { \line { 
"Viole" } \line { "1-3" } } }
  \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = \markup { \center-column { \line { 
"Vle." } \line { "1-3" } } }
  \clef alto
  << { d4*49 \glissando \hideNotes d4*4 \unHideNotes } \new Voice { 
\hideNotes d4*13 \once \override Hairpin #'circled-tip = ##f d4*5\< \once 
\override Hairpin #'circled-tip = ##f \once \override TextSpanner 
#'(bound-details left text) = "tremolo" \once \override TextSpanner 
#'(bound-details right text) = "ord." d4*5\mp\>\startTextSpan 
d4*26\ppp\stopTextSpan \unHideNotes } >>
}
  }
  \new Staff {
\relative d' {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \center-column { \line { 
"Viole" } \line { "4-6" } } }
  \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = \markup { \center-column { \line { 
"Vle." } \line { "4-6" } } }
  \clef alto
  << { \once \override Glissando #'bound-details = #'((right 
(attach-dir . 0) (padding . 1.5))) d4*18 \glissando d8 d d d d \dottedNoteHead 
d8*5 \once \override Glissando #'bound-details = #'((left (attach-dir . 0) 
(padding . 0.0))) \hideNotes d4*42 \glissando d4*4 \unHideNotes } \new Voice { 
\hideNotes d4*13 \once \override Hairpin #'circled-tip = ##f d4*5\< \once 
\override Hairpin #'circled-tip = ##f d4*5\mp\>^\markup{\raise #0.35 
\musicglyph #"noteheads.s2" ~ 60} d4*39\ppp d4*3\> d4*4\! \unHideNotes } >>
}
  }
>>
  >>
  \layout {
\context {
  \Voice
  \remove Forbid_line_break_engraver
}
   

Re: Variables: structure vs layout

[Janek Warchoł]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:35 PM, James Harkins  wrote:
> I'm getting a bit confused about the use of variables to reflect the 
> structure of the music, or the distribution of notes between different voices 
> etc.
>
> The passage where I'm struggling with this right now is for one instrument*. 
> The passage has three voices, which I finally decided to split onto two 
> staves (but the beginning is simple enough to put on one staff, using 
> \RemoveEmptyStaffContext and \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = 
> ##t).
>
> After it goes to two staves, I have drones and "bass" notes in one staff. The 
> "bass" (though not very low) is there only sometimes. I see a couple of 
> options to write it in ly:
>
> - Write a variable for the drones, with \voiceOne and \oneVoice interspersed 
> where needed.
>
> - Write lots of variables for the drones, one for each bit where the voice 
> needs to change, and lay them out in the staff block, e.g.  \oneVoice \droneA 
> \voiceOne \droneB etc
>
> The latter may have the advantage of putting all the voice of assignments in 
> one place (the score), but then the variables are too fragmentary to be 
> meaningful to read.

Have you tried using \partcombine on bass and drones?

hope this helps,
Janek

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Re: Combining lyrics lines

[Janek Warchoł]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Reedmace Star
 wrote:
> I am typesetting a musical-theater style song, with the parts of several
> singers appearing on the same staff.
> [..]
>     maybe
>             that the
>
> Instead, I would like to see them combined on one line wherever
> possible, like this:
>
>     maybe   that the
>
> Lilypond 2.12.3 did this by default. Is there a way to achieve it in
> newer versions?

Search for "centering the new Lyrics" thread by Keith OHara, from
December 2010.  it might be exactly what you're looking for.

hope this helps,
Janek

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Re: wrong beaming

[Mark Knoop]

At 13:01 on 15 Mar 2012, luis jure wrote:
>on 2012-03-15 at 15:26 James wrote:
>>Use manual beaming?
>
>yes, manual beaming solved the first quarter note: 
>
>\relative c' {
>\time 2/4
>c16[ c \times 2/3 { c8 c16] }
>\times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c }
>
>but i still don't know how to correct the second quarter note (steven's
>suggestion gives beaming by eight notes, that i don't find
>satisfactory).
>
>i know i saw once a solution to this, but i can't find where...

\set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\set subdivideBeams = ##t

-- 
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Re: separating design from pure score

[Urs Liska]

Hi Stjepan,

sorry that I don't have the time to really go through this thread (so I 
might misunderstand sth).


But I think you should separate your music variables from your score 
definition, so you can \include them separately:


music.ly
myMusic = { ... }

score.ly
\score {
\new Staff <<
  \myMusic
  \myMarks
>>
}


Then you can have your master file like:

\include "music.ly"
myMarks = { ... }
\include "score.ly"

Does that help?

Best
Urs

Am 15.03.2012 11:23, schrieb Stjepan Horvat:

Hello all..thank you for you anwsers..i really appreciate it..It's not
exactly what i wanted..but it helps me figure out more what i want and
what will be my solution..!

David Kastrup leads in this direction what i'm trying ta achive..The
diference form Hans Aikema is that i want to include music in a
diffrent file which i compile afterwords..The reason for that is that
i want to define music as is..Becouse each song is uniq and
unchangable..So i dont ever have to change the music file.

For Example:
1. I want the score to be minimalistic and to be sufficient in itself.

= score.ly =
\verison "2.14.2"
\header { title = "TITLE" composer = "COMPOSER" }
mymusic = \relative c' { c4 d e f \mark \default g }
mylyrics = \lyricmode { c d e f g }
mychords = \chordmode { c1 c4 }
\score {
<<
\new ChordNames { \mychords }
\new Staff { \mymusic }
\addlyrics { \mylyrics }
}
 end of score.ly 

Minimalistic as i said. Maybe even without \mark \default.

So now in design.ly i would set the fonts and paper and whatever would
be static in project period. I think the layout should work here.

And on the end.

 master.ly 
\include "./desing.ly"
\include "./score.ly"

%now here should go the paddings for this specifig song couse every
song looks difrent and has diffrent bar numbers..Now i would want to
maybe use \break command but inside the score..So here comes my
problem. Becouse the score block is included while including score.ly
(i would want only the variable to be included) i can't make a mark
blok where i would define simple marks and bar brakes.

paper {
markup-system-spacing #'padding = #5
markup-system-spacing #'stretchability = #5
score-system-spacing #'padding = #5
last-bottom-spacing #'padding = #5
score-markup-spacing #'padding = #5
top-system-spacing #'padding = #17.5
}

marks = {
   \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
   \hideNotes
   R1 \break
   \bar "||"
   \mark \default
   \unHideNotes
   \bar "|."
}

\score {
<<
\new ChordNames { \mychords }
\new Staff {<<  \mymusic \marks>>}
\addlyrics { \mylyrics }
}

 end of master.ly 

I would only compile the maste.ly file..

I think i made myself clear..:) Thanks for further guidence.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Hans Aikema  wrote:

On 14-3-2012 19:16, Stjepan Horvat wrote:

Hello,

I'm working on a project and i want to separate the design from score
because i want to have a clear score so that in the future when i
maybe want to change the design i dont have to change the score
(something like html and CSS :) ). So when i include my score into my
design file variables are included but score block also. Now when i
what to change, for example, \mark \default to have a preety box i
dont know where to put it. Is there a way not to include a score block
but all variables, or insert stuff into a score block that is
invisible to me?



If I understand your request correctly you're looking for a similar
structure as what I'm working with for generating beamerslides of songs
including their music. In that case the \include command is your friend.

What I have in my projects:

format/BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
contains
- a \paper section containing lots of formatting settings
- a \layout setting containing lots of formatting settings
- an include for yet another lilypond file containing useful scheme
functions such as the override-color-for-allgrobs scheme funtion I found in
the LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=443
- variable definitions for a music staff (muziekbalk) and its associated
lyrics (verstekst):
muziekbalk = { \new Staff \new Voice = myMelody { \melodie } }
verstekst = {\new Lyrics \lyricsto "myMelody" { \tekst }}

format/BeamerRegular.ly
contains
- an include of format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
- a Score block combining the variables defined in BaseBeamerSlideDesign
into an actual Score and override of the grob-colors to get colored output:
=== format/BeamerRegular.ly sample ===
\include "BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly"

\score {
<<
\applyContext #(override-color-for-all-grobs white)
\muziekbalk
\verstekst
}
=== end of format/BeamerRegular.ly ===

Then any song requiring the beamer slide format:
- a \header block
- a variable definition called 'melodie' (which is refered to in the
format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the melody of
the song
- a variable definition called 'tekst' which is refered to in the
format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned a

Re: full rest side effect

[Jonathan Wilkes]

>
> From: David Nalesnik 
>To: Jonathan Wilkes  
>Cc: "lilypond-user@gnu.org"  
>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:34 AM
>Subject: Re: full rest side effect
> 
>
>Hi Jonathan,
>
>
>On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes  wrote:
>
>Oops, I sent this to lilypond@googlecode by mistake.  Please ignore there...
>>
>>Hello,
>>In the following example the left hand gets rhythmically augmented.
>>What screwy thing am I doing?
>>This score boilerplate was generated using LilypondTool and I removed the 
>>irrelevant parts.
>>
>>
>
>
>In the absence of an explicit duration, LilyPond will continue to use the last 
>duration given it.  So all the notes in the new Staff context are assigned a 
>dotted half times 2.  Make the first note in the "LH" context a c4
>
>
>-David

Thanks, David.  I actually figured this out about 2 minutes after I posted.

Some time ago someone posted a proposal for "best practices" on here-- one of 
them was to explicitly write the duration for the note at the beginning of each 
line.  I started out doing that, then got lazy.  But I got punished for that!

-Jonathan


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Manual bars: PDF and MIDI have different opinion on melismas

[Frank Steinmetzger]

Dear list

I just discovered that 2.14 produces different lyrics for PDF and MIDI output,
when there are manual beams. Is this intentional?

A minimal example is attached. Note that, in the PDF, the text "three and
four" appears as expected under the notes, whereas in the MIDI, the notes on
"three and" are regarded as a melisma.

At first I thought it a regression over 2.12, but then found out that 2.12 did
the same thing and I never noticed the errors in my old MIDIs.
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
while (!asleep()) ++sheep;
\version "2.14.2"

music = \relative c'' { g4 a8( g) f8[ g] g4 }
text = \lyricmode { one twohoo three and four }
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "staff" \new Voice = "voice" \music
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "voice" \text
>>
\layout{}
\midi{}
}


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Re: wrong beaming

[Carl Sorensen]

On 3/14/12 8:45 PM, "luis jure"  wrote:

>
>hello list,
>
>i have a problem with beaming when combining a sixteenth notes triplet
>with straight 16ths.
> 
>without any kind of tweaks, the following code produces the output in the
>attached image:
>
>\relative c' {
>\time 2/4
>c16 c \times 2/3 { c8 c16 }
>\times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c }
>
>as you see, lilypond behaves differently if the triplet is in the first
>part of the quarter note, or in the second. in both cases the beaming is
>wrong.
>
>i guess this is related to issues that have been discussed before.

What issues do you believe it is related to?

>i tried
>both the latest stable (2.14.2) and the latest "unstable" or development
>version. the results are similar.

"Similar", or identical?

>
>is there a simple tweak to get the correct output?

You never say what correct output you want.  If you want it to be beamed
by eighths, instead of by quarters, you can do

\set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)

HTH,

Carl


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RE: wrong beaming

[Steven Weber]

You can always manually override the beaming:

c16 c \times 2/3 { c8[ c16] }
\times 2/3 { c8[ c16] } c16 c }

--Steven

-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+panteck=hotmail@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+panteck=hotmail@gnu.org] On Behalf Of luis
jure
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:46 PM
To: lilypond-user
Subject: wrong beaming


hello list,

i have a problem with beaming when combining a sixteenth notes triplet with
straight 16ths.
 
without any kind of tweaks, the following code produces the output in the
attached image:

\relative c' {
\time 2/4
c16 c \times 2/3 { c8 c16 }
\times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c }

as you see, lilypond behaves differently if the triplet is in the first part
of the quarter note, or in the second. in both cases the beaming is wrong.

i guess this is related to issues that have been discussed before. i tried
both the latest stable (2.14.2) and the latest "unstable" or development
version. the results are similar.

is there a simple tweak to get the correct output?

thanks,

lj


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Re: Add more space between arbitrary groups of notes

[Svetlana]

Hello, James!

14.03.2012, 17:09, "James" :
> Hello,
>
>
> See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00379.html
>
> This might help.
>
> I cannot help you with the others :/
>
> --
> --
>
> James
>

Thank you! This is not really what I wanted (I want more space only between 
phrasing slurs, not between each note), but following links from that messages 
I've found appropriate shortest-duration-space and spacing-increment values for 
better results, so, my first wish looks like solved.

Can anyone give me directions for automatic adding \skip1 after each lyrics 
syllable? If nothing helps, I can pre-process my lyrics in self-written php 
script, but this makes it hard to mantain.

Regards,
Svetlana.

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Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?

[Carl Sorensen]

On 3/15/12 5:36 AM, "Father Gordon Gilbert"  wrote:

>Hi guys,
>
>For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond.
> Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all
>worked!

I think this is a reflection of a solution to issue 1948.

The windows installer no longer adds a path entry (by design), so the user
will need to add their own path in the future.  Perhaps this should be
part of the Frescobaldi documentation.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: wrong beaming

[luis jure]

on 2012-03-15 at 15:26 James wrote:

>This actually worked in 2.12.3
>
>So I have opened
>
>http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2408

great, thank you. i see, however, that 2.12.3 was not quite correct in the
second case: the beamlet belonging to the triplet sixteenth should be
pointing to the left, and not beamed together with the straight 16th. 


>Use manual beaming?

yes, manual beaming solved the first quarter note: 

\relative c' {
\time 2/4
c16[ c \times 2/3 { c8 c16] }
\times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c }

but i still don't know how to correct the second quarter note (steven's
suggestion gives beaming by eight notes, that i don't find satisfactory).

i know i saw once a solution to this, but i can't find where...

best,

lj


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Re: delay test [you can ignore it]

[luis jure]

on 2012-03-15 at 08:02 luis jure wrote:

>sorry for the noise, just testing. i sent a message to the list yesterday
>and i haven't seen it yet...


ah... now i see it!

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Variables: structure vs layout

[James Harkins]

I'm getting a bit confused about the use of variables to reflect the structure 
of the music, or the distribution of notes between different voices etc.

The passage where I'm struggling with this right now is for one instrument*. 
The passage has three voices, which I finally decided to split onto two staves 
(but the beginning is simple enough to put on one staff, using 
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext and \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t).

After it goes to two staves, I have drones and "bass" notes in one staff. The 
"bass" (though not very low) is there only sometimes. I see a couple of options 
to write it in ly:

- Write a variable for the drones, with \voiceOne and \oneVoice interspersed 
where needed.

- Write lots of variables for the drones, one for each bit where the voice 
needs to change, and lay them out in the staff block, e.g.  \oneVoice \droneA 
\voiceOne \droneB etc

The latter may have the advantage of putting all the voice of assignments in 
one place (the score), but then the variables are too fragmentary to be 
meaningful to read.

I guess it's a fairly vague question. I guess the best way to narrow it down is 
-- especially asking experienced users -- what level of "atomization" seems to 
work the best for variables? Can you estimate a rough guideline where breaking 
the variables down further becomes more cumbersome than it's worth?

Thanks,
James

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheng_%28instrument%29


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Re: wrong beaming

[James]

Hello,

On 15 March 2012 02:45, luis jure  wrote:
>
> hello list,
>
> i have a problem with beaming when combining a sixteenth notes triplet
> with straight 16ths.
>
> without any kind of tweaks, the following code produces the output in the
> attached image:
>
> \relative c' {
> \time 2/4
> c16 c \times 2/3 { c8 c16 }
> \times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c }
>
> as you see, lilypond behaves differently if the triplet is in the first
> part of the quarter note, or in the second. in both cases the beaming is
> wrong.
>
> i guess this is related to issues that have been discussed before. i tried
> both the latest stable (2.14.2) and the latest "unstable" or development
> version. the results are similar.

This actually worked in 2.12.3

So I have opened

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2408


>
> is there a simple tweak to get the correct output?
>

Use manual beaming?

-- 
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Re: Combining lyrics lines

[-Eluze]

Reedmace Star wrote:
> 
> 
> For unrelated reasons, I want to use a separate Voice context for each 
> singer, even though the melodies usually don't overlap. The lyrics are 
> defined separately for each voice, too.
> 
> 
one quick+dirty solution:

\override LyricText #'Y-offset = #2.85

where 2.85 was just working for my individual test.

hth
Eluze
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Re: full rest side effect

[David Nalesnik]

Hi Jonathan,

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes  wrote:

> Oops, I sent this to lilypond@googlecode by mistake.  Please ignore
> there...
>
> Hello,
> In the following example the left hand gets rhythmically augmented.
> What screwy thing am I doing?
> This score boilerplate was generated using LilypondTool and I removed the
> irrelevant parts.
>
>
In the absence of an explicit duration, LilyPond will continue to use the
last duration given it.  So all the notes in the new Staff context are
assigned a dotted half times 2.  Make the first note in the "LH" context a
c4

-David
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Re: moving rhythmic dots down

[-Eluze]

Jeffrey Trevino wrote:
> 
> Just a quick question -- I'm making a glissando that goes across several
> unstemmed noteheads; I need to move any rhythmic dots down, so that the
> glissando doesn't obscure them. What's the proper override for this?
> 
> 

use \dotsDown (or \voiceTwo )

hth
Eluze
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Re: articulate.ly with "rall" not working?

[Peter Chubb]

> "Malte" == Malte Meyn  writes:

Malte> On 13.03.2012 03:52, Peter Chubb wrote:
>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Morley 
>>> writes:
>> 
Malte> Hm. I see two problems: 1. Did I understand right, that -"rall"
Malte> changes the tempo in a single step? That’s more like “subito
Malte> meno mosso” than “rallentando”, isn’t it?.  

Yes but it's as close as I can get wihtout a LOT more work.

2. \set
Malte> tempoWholesPerMinute doesn’t have any effect in the midi
Malte> output.  Is that a bug or a misunderstanding? I use Lilypond
Malte> 2.14.2-1 Linux 64.

It worked before feb last year.
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wrong beaming

[luis jure]

hello list,

i have a problem with beaming when combining a sixteenth notes triplet
with straight 16ths.
 
without any kind of tweaks, the following code produces the output in the
attached image:

\relative c' {
\time 2/4
c16 c \times 2/3 { c8 c16 }
\times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c }

as you see, lilypond behaves differently if the triplet is in the first
part of the quarter note, or in the second. in both cases the beaming is
wrong.

i guess this is related to issues that have been discussed before. i tried
both the latest stable (2.14.2) and the latest "unstable" or development
version. the results are similar.

is there a simple tweak to get the correct output?

thanks,

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Re: midiInstrument changes play one note too late.

[David Kastrup]

Janek Warchoł  writes:

> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Michael Ellis
>  wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how I would go about implementing the suggested
>> workaround for my application.  I run into the problem primarily when
>> transcribing individual choral parts for my section.  It's nice in the
>> midi output if cues from other parts are sounded by a different
>> instrument.  Since I don't have time to transcribe the entire score,
>> it's not practical to use the built-in LilyPond cue methods
>
> Hmm?  IIRC to use "the LilyPond method" you don't need to transcribe
> the entire score, just the fragment you want to quote.  Be sure to add
> appropriate number of skips to have it appear at the right moment.
>
>> In any case, this seems to me like a fairly serious defect. I hope
>> it's on the list for 2.16.
>
> I'm sorry if it will sound harsh, but compared to some other things i
> definitely won't call it serious...  And it's not on the list for
> 2.16, unless you pay someone to fix it (i recommend David Kastrup).  I
> hope this won't discourage you, but i don't expect it to be on 2.18
> list, too - i guess it will be fixed in, like, 2 years or so.  Our
> development resources are *really that limited*.  So, please seriously
> consider fixing it yourself (we will provide basic guidance to you) or
> paying David.

Bugs that manifest themselves on proprietary software only (and it
sounds like it is a problem with a proprietary player) are not something
I could reproduce, so while I thank you for your recommendation, this
would not be a task I would have the means to tackle.

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Combining lyrics lines

[Reedmace Star]

Dear Lilypond users,

I am typesetting a musical-theater style song, with the parts of several 
singers appearing on the same staff.

For unrelated reasons, I want to use a separate Voice context for each 
singer, even though the melodies usually don't overlap. The lyrics are 
defined separately for each voice, too.

Here is a simplified example of what I'm doing:


\version "2.14.2"

<<
  \new Staff <<
\new Voice = "a" { f'4 g' r2 | s1 }
\new Voice = "b" { s1| a'2 g' }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "a" \lyricmode { may -- be }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "b" \lyricmode { that the }
>>


Now, the lyrics to "a" and "b" appear on separate lines, like this:

 maybe
 that the

Instead, I would like to see them combined on one line whereever 
possible, like this:

 maybe   that the

Lilypond 2.12.3 did this by default. Is there a way to achieve it in 
newer versions?


As mentioned before, the melodies usually don't overlap, so it would 
probably be sufficient to overlay both Lyrics contexts in the same 
vertical space.  I naively attempted to do this by putting both into a 
StaffGroup and then setting their Y-extents to zero, but this had no 
effect; neither had various experiments with the staff-staff-spacing 
property of the StaffGroup or the Lyrics contexts.


I also considered using a single Lyrics context and associatedVoice:


\version "2.14.2"

<<
  \new Staff <<
\new Voice = "a" { f'4 g' r2 | s1 }
\new Voice = "b" { s1| a'2 g' }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "a" {
  \lyricmode { may -- be }
  \set associatedVoice = "b"
  \lyricmode { that the }
  }
>>


This fails, I guess, because of the requirement to change the associated 
voice one syllable early (2.1.1)?  While that would be easy to fix in 
this minimal example, it would be inconvenient in the actual score, 
where the lyrics are stored in separate variables defined outside the 
\score block.


Any other ideas?


Thanks and best regards,

Reedmace Star


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delay test [you can ignore it]

[luis jure]

sorry for the noise, just testing. i sent a message to the list yesterday
and i haven't seen it yet...

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Re: midiInstrument changes play one note too late.

[David Kastrup]

Michael Ellis  writes:

> In any case, this seems to me like a fairly serious defect. I hope
> it's on the list for 2.16.

Don't worry.  No stock options will be emitted to the responsible
developers unless this deficiency is cured before 2.16 gets released.

In other words: no, this is not "on the list for 2.16".  If you are
interested in the release criteria for stable releases, they can be
found in the Contributor's Guide in the documentation if memory serves
me right.

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Re: midiInstrument changes play one note too late.

[David Kastrup]

Hans Aikema  writes:

> On 14-3-2012 14:30, Michael Ellis wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Michael Ellis
>>   wrote:
>>> Is this a known problem?  I don't see any prior reports online and
>>> I've been seeing it since at least 2.12 but assumed it was because I
>>> was doing some fairly complicated things.  I took time to reduce it to
>>> a minimal example today. It's still present in 2.15.33 as shown by the
>>> example below.  FWIW, I'm running OS X 10.6.7 and playing the midi
>>> with QuickTime.  I'm attaching the midi file.
>>>
>>> Is there a workaround?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>> Wow. It's rare not to get a response from this list.  Did I phrase the
>> question incredibly poorly?
>
> Don't worry, IMHO your phrasing was perfectly clear. Sometimes it just
> takes more than a day

5:30pm to 9:30am is not "more than a day".  It is just few hours of
daylight.

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full rest side effect

[Jonathan Wilkes]

Oops, I sent this to lilypond@googlecode by mistake.  Please ignore there...

Hello,
In the following example the left hand gets rhythmically augmented.
What screwy thing am I doing?
This score boilerplate was generated using LilypondTool and I removed the 
irrelevant parts.

Thanks,
Jonathan


% Created on Wed Mar 14 14:40:30 EDT 2012
\version "2.14.2"

staffPiano = \new PianoStaff {
        \time 3/4
                <<
        \context Staff = "RH" {  % Right hand 
            \clef treble
            \key c \major
            \relative c' {
                c c c |
                c c c |
                R2.*2
            }
        }
        \context Staff = "LH" {  % Left hand             
            \clef bass
            \key c \major
            \relative c {
                c c c |
              c c c |
                c c c |
                c c c |
            }
        }
    >>
}

\score {
    <<
        \staffPiano
    >>
}

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Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?

[Father Gordon Gilbert]

Hi guys,

For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond.
 Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all
worked!

Thanks!

Gordon+

On 15/03/2012, James  wrote:
> Father Gilbert
>
> On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert  wrote:
>> Thanks, Wilbert,
>>
>> I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky
>> to be able to implement something that complicated.  I certainly do
>> make use of it, though!
>>
>> I have another problem now, however.
>>
>> When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco
>> again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken!  Not sure
>> what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following:
>>
>> Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]...
>> Could not start lilypond-windows.exe.
>> Please check path and permissions.
>>
>> I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even
>> tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond,
>> with no improvement.
>>
>> Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it?  Holy Week
>> is coming up, and I have some things I need to do!  Help!
>>
>> Thanks for a fantastic program.
>>
>
> I have realised that *if* you do not have LilyPond in your 'path' (see
> my last email to you) and you need to add it, the instructions will be
> slightly different depending if you are running Windows XP or Windows
> 7 - as things like file names and where settings are have changed.
>
> What I would do because I forgot we had added this to our instructions
> on teh website is to look here
>
> http://lilypond.org/windows.html
>
> See 'Running on the command line' section. This tells you how to check
> and configure.
>
> I do not know your technical ability (so sorry if I am patronizing you
> - many of us on these lists take it for granted users know how to
> configure these settings in Windows) to understand how to set a PATH
> etc. and as I know you have a very limited internet connection so are
> not permanently online, can you let me know if my last response is
> helpful and if not which version of Windows you are using and I can
> give you more detailed instructions in 'one go'
>
>
> --
> --
>
> James
>


-- 
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Penetanguishene, ON

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Re: Combine \default rehearsal mark with another mark

[Siska Ádám]

On 2012.03.15., at 12:08, James wrote:
> Hello,
> 2012/3/15 Siska Ádám :
>> Dear List,
>> 
>> 
>> I'd like to put two rehearsal marks over the same barline. However, this 
>> gives an error:
>> 
>> \mark \markup{
>>   \center-align{
>>  \line{ \default }
>>  \line{ "8" }
>>   }
>> } s4*8
>> 
>> The error is: 'error: syntax error, unexpected \default'
>> 
>> I also tried to access the value of \default, however, I couldn't find out 
>> how to do that. The documentation says: 'The value to use is stored in the 
>> property rehearsalMark', however, I didn't find any property like 
>> RehearsalMark.rehearsalMark nor Score.rehearsalMark, or at least I didn't 
>> find out how to access these in a \markup block.
>> 
>> Do you have any suggestion for this?
>> 
> 
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=rehearsal+mark
> 
> James


Hello,

thanks a lot!

Best,
Ádám


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Re: Combine \default rehearsal mark with another mark

[James]

Hello,

2012/3/15 Siska Ádám :
> Dear List,
>
>
> I'd like to put two rehearsal marks over the same barline. However, this 
> gives an error:
>
> \mark \markup{
>   \center-align{
>      \line{ \default }
>      \line{ "8" }
>   }
> } s4*8
>
> The error is: 'error: syntax error, unexpected \default'
>
> I also tried to access the value of \default, however, I couldn't find out 
> how to do that. The documentation says: 'The value to use is stored in the 
> property rehearsalMark', however, I didn't find any property like 
> RehearsalMark.rehearsalMark nor Score.rehearsalMark, or at least I didn't 
> find out how to access these in a \markup block.
>
> Do you have any suggestion for this?
>

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=rehearsal+mark



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Combine \default rehearsal mark with another mark

[Siska Ádám]

Dear List,


I'd like to put two rehearsal marks over the same barline. However, this gives 
an error:

\mark \markup{
   \center-align{
  \line{ \default }
  \line{ "8" }
   }
} s4*8

The error is: 'error: syntax error, unexpected \default'

I also tried to access the value of \default, however, I couldn't find out how 
to do that. The documentation says: 'The value to use is stored in the property 
rehearsalMark', however, I didn't find any property like 
RehearsalMark.rehearsalMark nor Score.rehearsalMark, or at least I didn't find 
out how to access these in a \markup block.

Do you have any suggestion for this?


Thanks,
Ádám


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Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?

[James]

Father Gilbert

On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert  wrote:
> Thanks, Wilbert,
>
> I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky
> to be able to implement something that complicated.  I certainly do
> make use of it, though!
>
> I have another problem now, however.
>
> When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco
> again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken!  Not sure
> what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following:
>
> Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]...
> Could not start lilypond-windows.exe.
> Please check path and permissions.
>
> I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even
> tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond,
> with no improvement.
>
> Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it?  Holy Week
> is coming up, and I have some things I need to do!  Help!
>
> Thanks for a fantastic program.
>

I have realised that *if* you do not have LilyPond in your 'path' (see
my last email to you) and you need to add it, the instructions will be
slightly different depending if you are running Windows XP or Windows
7 - as things like file names and where settings are have changed.

What I would do because I forgot we had added this to our instructions
on teh website is to look here

http://lilypond.org/windows.html

See 'Running on the command line' section. This tells you how to check
and configure.

I do not know your technical ability (so sorry if I am patronizing you
- many of us on these lists take it for granted users know how to
configure these settings in Windows) to understand how to set a PATH
etc. and as I know you have a very limited internet connection so are
not permanently online, can you let me know if my last response is
helpful and if not which version of Windows you are using and I can
give you more detailed instructions in 'one go'


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Re: separating design from pure score

[Stjepan Horvat]

Hello all..thank you for you anwsers..i really appreciate it..It's not
exactly what i wanted..but it helps me figure out more what i want and
what will be my solution..!

David Kastrup leads in this direction what i'm trying ta achive..The
diference form Hans Aikema is that i want to include music in a
diffrent file which i compile afterwords..The reason for that is that
i want to define music as is..Becouse each song is uniq and
unchangable..So i dont ever have to change the music file.

For Example:
1. I want the score to be minimalistic and to be sufficient in itself.

= score.ly =
\verison "2.14.2"
\header { title = "TITLE" composer = "COMPOSER" }
mymusic = \relative c' { c4 d e f \mark \default g }
mylyrics = \lyricmode { c d e f g }
mychords = \chordmode { c1 c4 }
\score {
<<
\new ChordNames { \mychords }
\new Staff { \mymusic }
\addlyrics { \mylyrics }
>>
}
 end of score.ly 

Minimalistic as i said. Maybe even without \mark \default.

So now in design.ly i would set the fonts and paper and whatever would
be static in project period. I think the layout should work here.

And on the end.

 master.ly 
\include "./desing.ly"
\include "./score.ly"

%now here should go the paddings for this specifig song couse every
song looks difrent and has diffrent bar numbers..Now i would want to
maybe use \break command but inside the score..So here comes my
problem. Becouse the score block is included while including score.ly
(i would want only the variable to be included) i can't make a mark
blok where i would define simple marks and bar brakes.

paper {
markup-system-spacing #'padding = #5
markup-system-spacing #'stretchability = #5
score-system-spacing #'padding = #5
last-bottom-spacing #'padding = #5
score-markup-spacing #'padding = #5
top-system-spacing #'padding = #17.5
}

marks = {
  \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
  \hideNotes
  R1 \break
  \bar "||"
  \mark \default
  \unHideNotes
  \bar "|."
}

\score {
<<
\new ChordNames { \mychords }
\new Staff { << \mymusic \marks >>}
\addlyrics { \mylyrics }
>>
}

 end of master.ly 

I would only compile the maste.ly file..

I think i made myself clear..:) Thanks for further guidence.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Hans Aikema  wrote:
> On 14-3-2012 19:16, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm working on a project and i want to separate the design from score
>> because i want to have a clear score so that in the future when i
>> maybe want to change the design i dont have to change the score
>> (something like html and CSS :) ). So when i include my score into my
>> design file variables are included but score block also. Now when i
>> what to change, for example, \mark \default to have a preety box i
>> dont know where to put it. Is there a way not to include a score block
>> but all variables, or insert stuff into a score block that is
>> invisible to me?
>>
>>
> If I understand your request correctly you're looking for a similar
> structure as what I'm working with for generating beamerslides of songs
> including their music. In that case the \include command is your friend.
>
> What I have in my projects:
>
> format/BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
> contains
> - a \paper section containing lots of formatting settings
> - a \layout setting containing lots of formatting settings
> - an include for yet another lilypond file containing useful scheme
> functions such as the override-color-for-allgrobs scheme funtion I found in
> the LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=443
> - variable definitions for a music staff (muziekbalk) and its associated
> lyrics (verstekst):
> muziekbalk = { \new Staff \new Voice = myMelody { \melodie } }
> verstekst = {\new Lyrics \lyricsto "myMelody" { \tekst }}
>
> format/BeamerRegular.ly
> contains
> - an include of format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
> - a Score block combining the variables defined in BaseBeamerSlideDesign
> into an actual Score and override of the grob-colors to get colored output:
> === format/BeamerRegular.ly sample ===
> \include "BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly"
>
> \score {
> <<
>            \applyContext #(override-color-for-all-grobs white)
>            \muziekbalk
>            \verstekst
>>>
> }
> === end of format/BeamerRegular.ly ===
>
> Then any song requiring the beamer slide format:
> - a \header block
> - a variable definition called 'melodie' (which is refered to in the
> format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the melody of
> the song
> - a variable definition called 'tekst' which is refered to in the
> format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the lyrics of
> the song
> - an include of the format/BeamerRegular.ly
>
> e.g.:
> === MySong.ly sample ===
> \version "2.15.26"
> \header {
>    title = "Just some sample song"
> }
> melodie = \relative c'' {
>    \clef treble
>    \time 4/4
>    \key c \major
>    c d e f \bar "|."
> }
> tekst = \lyricmode {
>  this is a song
> }
> \include format/BeamerGewoon.ly
> === end 

Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?

[Francisco Vila]

2012/3/15 Father Gordon Gilbert :
> Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]...
> Could not start lilypond-windows.exe.
> Please check path and permissions.

Sounds like Frescobaldi does not find your new lilypond install in the
directory where it used to be, maybe it has been installed in another
directory.

Go to Preferences - LilyPond preferences. Highlight the first entry at
the right, push Edit and then push the file browser dialog button at
tthe right of 'lilypond command' box.

Once there, find c:\Program Files\whatever\whatever\lilypond.exe

where 'whatever' is something like \usr\bin\ , I'm sorry but I do not
remember exactly (I am not a windows user)

Once found, click 'Open', OK, OK. Test your whole set by compiling
some music. Good luck!

-- 
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com

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Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?

[James]

Hello,

On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert  wrote:
> Thanks, Wilbert,
>
> I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky
> to be able to implement something that complicated.  I certainly do
> make use of it, though!
>
> I have another problem now, however.
>
> When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco
> again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken!  Not sure
> what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following:
>
> Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]...
> Could not start lilypond-windows.exe.
> Please check path and permissions.
>
> I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even
> tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond,
> with no improvement.
>
> Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it?  Holy Week
> is coming up, and I have some things I need to do!  Help!

It almost certainly won't be Frescobaldi it'll be where/how windows
has installed your later version of LilyPond.

Install LilyPond as normal and then open a 'cmd' prompt (if you don't
know what that is then click on the start menu in the task bar and
either look for the 'run' menu option and type cmd or you can search
for 'cmd.exe' and open it.

Then from that command prompt type

path

This will list all the 'paths' to the applications you have installed.
It'll be a long list, and you should (hopefully) see something like

C;/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin; in there (I may have got that
slightly inaccurate - I am doing this from memory) but you will see
'LilyPond' somewhere.

If you don't see it then this is the problem and you will need to add
it manually.

I am about to leave for work, but if you still have problems or no one
else answers I'll be around in an hour or so.





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