Re: Matching lyrics to a one measure divisi
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Hayden Muhl haydenm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Janek Warchoł wrote Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:53 PM Glad it worked for you. In return for my help, may i ask you for your opinion on how the documentation should be improved to make the answer easy to find for the next person that has the same problem? I.e. in which section of which manual (maybe a different section title is needed?) this should be and how the explanation should look like. I'd be very grateful if you'd prepare a suggestion and submit it to our bug reporting mailing list. In particular, did you read Explicitly instantiating voices in the Learning Manual, where exactly this construct is introduced? See http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/explicitly-instantiating-voices No, I missed that part of the manual. Now that you point it out, I do remember reading it a long time ago, but I forgot about that part. I clearly should have RTFM more closely before reaching out to the mailing list. Sorry if I wasted your time. No problem at all! I still think documentation may need some improvement in this area: the idea is that you read Learning Manual to get a nice introduction, and when you understand what LilyPond is all about, you should be able to use Notation Reference only. So, if this issue isn't explained in the NR, it should be changed. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Matching lyrics to a one measure divisi
Hayden Muhl Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:59 PM On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: In particular, did you read Explicitly instantiating voices in the Learning Manual, where exactly this construct is introduced? See http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/explicitly-instantiating-voices Trevor No, I missed that part of the manual. Now that you point it out, I do remember reading it a long time ago, but I forgot about that part. I clearly should have RTFM more closely before reaching out to the mailing list. Sorry if I wasted your time. No problem - I still have difficulty finding things in the manuals, even though I was involved in writing parts of them :) Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Matching lyrics to a one measure divisi
Janek Warchoł wrote Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:58 AM I still think documentation may need some improvement in this area: the idea is that you read Learning Manual to get a nice introduction, and when you understand what LilyPond is all about, you should be able to use Notation Reference only. So, if this issue isn't explained in the NR, it should be changed. No, the Notation Reference is a _reference_ manual. It does not attempt to explain concepts or techniques: explanations belong in the Learning Manual. At least that is the principle - I'm sure there are many exceptions. The reason is the length of the documentation - explaining things twice would make that worse. And this particular construct is already in the Notation Reference. See Temporary polyphonic passages in 1.5.2 Multiple voices. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Matching lyrics to a one measure divisi
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Janek Warchoł wrote Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:58 AM I still think documentation may need some improvement in this area: the idea is that you read Learning Manual to get a nice introduction, and when you understand what LilyPond is all about, you should be able to use Notation Reference only. So, if this issue isn't explained in the NR, it should be changed. No, the Notation Reference is a _reference_ manual. It does not attempt to explain concepts or techniques: explanations belong in the Learning Manual. At least that is the principle - I'm sure there are many exceptions. The reason is the length of the documentation - explaining things twice would make that worse. And this particular construct is already in the Notation Reference. See Temporary polyphonic passages in 1.5.2 Multiple voices. True. However, i don't remember it being mentioned in section about Lyrics, and i suppose that's why Hayden missed it. Overall, this is something that could be discussed during GDP2... (2020?) cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MIDI channels
2012/3/21 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, David Kastrup wrote:
For this purpose I need to write a pianotune that uses MIDI channel 3
for
the Left Hand part, and MIDI channel 4 for the Right Hand part. A bit
strange, I agree, but this is what the PianoBooster docs tell me to do.
Well since Lilypond enumerates the MIDI channels as they are needed, you
could simply produce a MIDI score that has one empty staff, thus pushing
the
other staves one channel down. (The first channel is used by lilypond
itself).
P.S: Not true? The first TRACK is used by LilyPond, not the first CHANNEL.
The first MIDI channel goes to the first staff containing music. Read on:
That's one of the things I tried, but doesn't work.
I have discovered Lilypond only creates a new MIDI channel if a Staff
contains music.
Put music there, then. Just s should suffice.
That's what I thought.
I have tried {}, {s}, {r}, {R}, but they all don't do the trick. Channel 1
is still assigned to the first staff that has notes in it.
Only if I create two staffs with at least one single note, MIDI channel 3
goes to the next staff. You can try and check yourself.
I can understand why Lilypond behaves like this. Lilypond only supports 16
MIDI channels. Some people have already posted problems in this forum with
this limitation when writing big orchestral scores. Just search in the mail
archives. It would not be very efficient to assign MIDI channels to staffs
that won't play any music anyway.
Don't change this behaviour just for my little private project!
I have found another solution (using abcm2ps and abc2midi) that does what I
want to do. But I still think this is an interesting case and would be
interested in a workaround for LilyPond.
It would be interesting to have an \midiChannel #number (#1 to #16) to
force the channel on current Voice. Or, it could be a context property
so you can set it per score/system/staff/voice.
Another useful feature would be \midiProgram #number (#1 to #128)
or midiProgram = #number for using instead of midiInstrument.
Just thinking aloud. Bounty EUR 40 for both.
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Re: Matching lyrics to a one measure divisi
Janek Warchoł wrote Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:26 AM However, i don't remember it being mentioned in section about Lyrics, and i suppose that's why Hayden missed it. This is true. There is an example which uses a temporary voice under Divisi lyrics in section 2.1.2, but it is quite well hidden. The Vocal music chapter is still in early draft stage, so there is much work here to be done. Simply adding a pointer to the relevant section in the Learning Manual in References for vocal music in 2.1.1 would be adequate to cover this particular issue, I think. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Help needed creating a Mac OS X installer for Frescobaldi
Hi all, Unfortunately I don't have access to a Mac. But it would be very nice if someone is able to create an installer for the Macintosh (by creating/adapting a 'freeze.py'-like script) for Frescobaldi. This means that an Application Bundle would be created, containing PyQt4, Python, portmidi and python-poppler-qt4. The cx_Freeze python module (also used by the freeze.py script that creates a Windows installer) is able to handle that. Here[1] is an example of a Python script that freezes an application comparable to Frescobaldi (in that it also uses PyQt4), with support for creating a Mac DMG file containing all the needed libraries. [1] http://code.google.com/p/iep/source/browse/freezeScript.py Is anyone here able to understand the application bundle part of this and to create a freeze_macox.py script for Frescobaldi, based on the exising freeze.py[2] and the other example? [2] https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/blob/master/freeze.py Otherwise I would need to setup a donation infracture just to get a Mac for building the installer :-) (although it would also help furthering development and testing of Frescobaldi in general on Mac OS X :-) -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: al niente hairpin symbol
- Original Message -
From: Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu
To: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:37 PM
Subject: al niente hairpin symbol
Dear List,
I noticed that when a glissando with a decrescendo hairpin attached to it is
broken into multiple lines, the 'al niente' sign is printed just before the
break. This is rather confusing, as one might think that the end-note of the
glissando, which appears in the next line, is actually a note that has to be
played (which, of course, is not true; as the decrescendo ends with al
niente, that sound must be silent, it just shows where the glissando should
end).
Is there any workaround for this? Currently I'm just putting a flageolet
sign below the note in the second line, but that's not very nice. Obviously,
the best would be if the hairpin would break with the glissando, in which
case it could end on the very first note of the second line.
Here's a very short example:
\relative c' {
\override Glissando #'breakable = ##t
\override Hairpin #'circled-tip = ##t
c1\ \glissando \break c'\!
}
Thanks for any help,
Ádám
=
I think the problem you're identifying here is one with how hairpins behave
at breaks and nothing to do with the glissando? See the attached: the first
hairpin should reach the next note, like the second hairpin does.
\relative c' {
\override Hairpin #'to-barline = ##f
c'1\ \break c\! \break
c\ c\!
\override Hairpin #'to-barline = ##t
c\ c\!
}
Am I missing an over-ride to make this happen?
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Error in documentation
In the snippets documentation, the second of the coda symbols (beginning of the third stave of output) in the snippet http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-positioning-segno-and-coda-_0028with-line-break_0029 is shifted to the left and only partly visible in the snippet output. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Help needed creating a Mac OS X installer for Frescobaldi
I can give this a try. I tried using py2app on frescobaldi but it had some issues and I didn't have time to sort them out. Rodolfo On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi all, Unfortunately I don't have access to a Mac. But it would be very nice if someone is able to create an installer for the Macintosh (by creating/adapting a 'freeze.py'-like script) for Frescobaldi. This means that an Application Bundle would be created, containing PyQt4, Python, portmidi and python-poppler-qt4. The cx_Freeze python module (also used by the freeze.py script that creates a Windows installer) is able to handle that. Here[1] is an example of a Python script that freezes an application comparable to Frescobaldi (in that it also uses PyQt4), with support for creating a Mac DMG file containing all the needed libraries. [1] http://code.google.com/p/iep/source/browse/freezeScript.py Is anyone here able to understand the application bundle part of this and to create a freeze_macox.py script for Frescobaldi, based on the exising freeze.py[2] and the other example? [2] https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/blob/master/freeze.py Otherwise I would need to setup a donation infracture just to get a Mac for building the installer :-) (although it would also help furthering development and testing of Frescobaldi in general on Mac OS X :-) -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Help needed creating a Mac OS X installer for Frescobaldi
Stan On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Rodolfo Zitellini xhero...@gmail.com wrote: I can give this a try. I tried using py2app on frescobaldi but it had some issues and I didn't have time to sort them out. Rodolfo On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi all, Unfortunately I don't have access to a Mac. But it would be very nice if someone is able to create an installer for the Macintosh (by creating/adapting a 'freeze.py'-like script) for Frescobaldi. This means that an Application Bundle would be created, containing PyQt4, Python, portmidi and python-poppler-qt4. The cx_Freeze python module (also used by the freeze.py script that creates a Windows installer) is able to handle that. Here[1] is an example of a Python script that freezes an application comparable to Frescobaldi (in that it also uses PyQt4), with support for creating a Mac DMG file containing all the needed libraries. [1] http://code.google.com/p/iep/source/browse/freezeScript.py Is anyone here able to understand the application bundle part of this and to create a freeze_macox.py script for Frescobaldi, based on the exising freeze.py[2] and the other example? [2] https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/blob/master/freeze.py Otherwise I would need to setup a donation infracture just to get a Mac for building the installer :-) (although it would also help furthering development and testing of Frescobaldi in general on Mac OS X :-) -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Help needed creating a Mac OS X installer for Frescobaldi
On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Rodolfo Zitellini xhero...@gmail.com wrote: I can give this a try. I tried using py2app on frescobaldi but it had some issues and I didn't have time to sort them out. Rodolfo On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi all, Unfortunately I don't have access to a Mac. But it would be very nice if someone is able to create an installer for the Macintosh (by creating/adapting a 'freeze.py'-like script) for Frescobaldi. This means that an Application Bundle would be created, containing PyQt4, Python, portmidi and python-poppler-qt4. The cx_Freeze python module (also used by the freeze.py script that creates a Windows installer) is able to handle that. Here[1] is an example of a Python script that freezes an application comparable to Frescobaldi (in that it also uses PyQt4), with support for creating a Mac DMG file containing all the needed libraries. [1] http://code.google.com/p/iep/source/browse/freezeScript.py Is anyone here able to understand the application bundle part of this and to create a freeze_macox.py script for Frescobaldi, based on the exising freeze.py[2] and the other example? [2] https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/blob/master/freeze.py Otherwise I would need to setup a donation infracture just to get a Mac for building the installer :-) (although it would also help furthering development and testing of Frescobaldi in general on Mac OS X :-) -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) I would be happy to help when you get to the testing stage but haven't the skills to do more. My platforms are PPC (PowerBook) and x86 (iMac) running 10.5.8. Stan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error in documentation
Hello, On 22 March 2012 19:09, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: In the snippets documentation, the second of the coda symbols (beginning of the third stave of output) in the snippet http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-positioning-segno-and-coda-_0028with-line-break_0029 is shifted to the left and only partly visible in the snippet output. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2428 james ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Separating pitch and rhythm
Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu writes:
Dear List,
is there an effective way to separate the pitches and the rhythms in a
voice? I'm thinking about something like defining a variable
consisting only of rhythms:
Rhythm = {
\time 4/4
4 4 4. 8
8 8 4 4 8 8
2 4 8 8 ...
}
and then apply this to different sequences of pitches:
Seq1 = {
\clef treble
c d e f
g a g f e d
c e g c ...
}
Seq2 = {
\clef bass
c b a g
f e f g a b
c g e c ...
}
#(define-public (for-some-music recurse? music)
Walk through @var{music}, process all elements calling @var{recurse?}
and only recurse if this returns true.
(let loop ((music music))
(if (recurse? music)
(let ((elt (ly:music-property music 'element)))
(if (ly:music? elt)
(loop elt))
(for-each loop (ly:music-property music 'elements))
(for-each loop (ly:music-property music 'articulations))
#(define (extract-all-durations music)
(map! (lambda (m) (ly:music-property m 'duration))
(extract-music music
(lambda (m) (ly:duration?
(ly:music-property m 'duration))
applyRhythm =
#(define-music-function (parser location p r)
(ly:music? ly:music?)
(let ((l (extract-all-durations r)))
(for-some-music
(lambda (m)
(and (pair? l)
(if (ly:duration? (ly:music-property m 'duration))
(begin
(set! (ly:music-property m 'duration) (car l))
(set! l (cdr l))
#f)
#t)))
p))
p)
Rhythm = {
s4 s4 s4. s8
s8 s8 s4 s4 s8 s8
s2 s4 s8 s8
}
SeqI = {
\clef treble
c d e f
g a g f e d
c e g c
}
SeqII = {
\clef bass
c b a g
f e f g a b
c g e c
}
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff \applyRhythm \SeqI \Rhythm
\new Staff \applyRhythm \SeqII \Rhythm
I have written the for-some-music function previously but not
committed it since I could not immediately think of an application. But
it fits the bill here reasonably nicely.
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Re: Help needed creating a Mac OS X installer for Frescobaldi
Hi, On 2012.03.22., at 22:22, Stan Sanderson wrote: On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Rodolfo Zitellini xhero...@gmail.com wrote: I can give this a try. I tried using py2app on frescobaldi but it had some issues and I didn't have time to sort them out. Rodolfo On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi all, Unfortunately I don't have access to a Mac. But it would be very nice if someone is able to create an installer for the Macintosh (by creating/adapting a 'freeze.py'-like script) for Frescobaldi. This means that an Application Bundle would be created, containing PyQt4, Python, portmidi and python-poppler-qt4. The cx_Freeze python module (also used by the freeze.py script that creates a Windows installer) is able to handle that. Here[1] is an example of a Python script that freezes an application comparable to Frescobaldi (in that it also uses PyQt4), with support for creating a Mac DMG file containing all the needed libraries. [1] http://code.google.com/p/iep/source/browse/freezeScript.py Is anyone here able to understand the application bundle part of this and to create a freeze_macox.py script for Frescobaldi, based on the exising freeze.py[2] and the other example? [2] https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/blob/master/freeze.py Otherwise I would need to setup a donation infracture just to get a Mac for building the installer :-) (although it would also help furthering development and testing of Frescobaldi in general on Mac OS X :-) -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) I would be happy to help when you get to the testing stage but haven't the skills to do more. My platforms are PPC (PowerBook) and x86 (iMac) running 10.5.8. Stan I'm also happy to help you in the testing phase, although I don't know Frescobaldi at all, so I might need quite specific instructions on what to test exactly. I'm on a MBP with 10.6.8. Best, Ádám ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
inner-outer margin two-sided print
pdf is too big so I screen print. Blessing in+, png _a1 a2 uses the following in the snippet inner-margin = .25/in outer-margin = .75/in png _b1 b2 uses the following in the snippet inner-margin = .75/in outer-margin = .25/in In both cases the output is the same. I try to produce two-sided prints showing left margin more on page 1 (odd page #) right margin more on page 2 (even page #). ( I want left hole punch) How can I do this? Thanks for the help. Blessing in+, Ming. attachment: 2012-03-22_192748a2.pngattachment: 2012-03-22_192722a1.pngattachment: 2012-03-22_192748a2.pngattachment: 2012-03-22_193106b2.pngattachment: 2012-03-22_193033b1.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Move markup relative to parent from inside define-markup-command?
I'm using define-markup-command to simplify the indication of barring
for a single chord, but what I have at the moment defaults to being
centred on the note, and the vertical line indicating how many strings
to cover is overlaid by the notehead unless the markup position is
tweaked. Is it possible, if I have an additional numeric argument for
the amount of shift needed, to apply that shift from inside the
define-markup-command rather than having to use an external tweak? This
is what I have at the moment:
\version 2.15.32
#(define-markup-command (mbarre layout props fretnum vdrop) (markup?
number?)
(interpret-markup layout props
#{ \markup \small \bold { \concat { \postscript #(string-append
0.1 setlinewidth 0.7 -0.5 moveto 0 -
(number-string vdrop) rlineto 0.5 0 rlineto stroke)
$fretnum } } #}
)
)
\relative c'' {
e c4^\markup { \mbarre CV #2.3 } e c-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(-1.5
. 0)^\markup { \mbarre CV #2.3 }
}
Nick
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Re: Move markup relative to parent from inside define-markup-command?
Hi Nick,
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.netwrote:
I'm using define-markup-command to simplify the indication of barring for
a single chord, but what I have at the moment defaults to being centred on
the note, and the vertical line indicating how many strings to cover is
overlaid by the notehead unless the markup position is tweaked. Is it
possible, if I have an additional numeric argument for the amount of shift
needed, to apply that shift from inside the define-markup-command rather
than having to use an external tweak?
Do you mean something like the following (which duplicates the image you've
uploaded)?
\version 2.15.32
#(define-markup-command (mbarre layout props fretnum vdrop offset) (markup?
number? number?)
(interpret-markup layout props
#{
\markup \translate #(cons offset 0) \small \bold { \concat {
\postscript #(string-append 0.1 setlinewidth 0.7 -0.5 moveto 0 -
(number-string vdrop) rlineto 0.5 0 rlineto stroke) $fretnum } }
#}
)
)
\relative c'' {
e c4^\markup { \mbarre V #2.3 #0 } e c^\markup { \mbarre V #2.3
#-1.5 }
}
HTH,
David
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Re: Move markup relative to parent from inside define-markup-command?
On 23/03/12 14:23, David Nalesnik wrote:
Hi Nick,
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Nick Payne
nick.pa...@internode.on.net mailto:nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
I'm using define-markup-command to simplify the indication of
barring for a single chord, but what I have at the moment defaults
to being centred on the note, and the vertical line indicating how
many strings to cover is overlaid by the notehead unless the
markup position is tweaked. Is it possible, if I have an
additional numeric argument for the amount of shift needed, to
apply that shift from inside the define-markup-command rather than
having to use an external tweak?
Do you mean something like the following (which duplicates the image
you've uploaded)?
\version 2.15.32
#(define-markup-command (mbarre layout props fretnum vdrop offset)
(markup? number? number?)
(interpret-markup layout props
#{
\markup \translate #(cons offset 0) \small \bold { \concat {
\postscript #(string-append 0.1 setlinewidth 0.7 -0.5 moveto 0 -
(number-string vdrop) rlineto 0.5 0 rlineto stroke)
$fretnum } } #}
)
)
\relative c'' {
e c4^\markup { \mbarre V #2.3 #0 } e c^\markup { \mbarre V
#2.3 #-1.5 }
}
Thanks. That's exactly what I was after.
Nick
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