Multiple-staff ossia
Dear List, is there a way to create a multiple-staff ossia? I need to expand a divisi section in a string part score that lasts a couple of bars only. The basic idea would be to have a StaffGroup that starts in the middle of the page (at the point where the divisi section begins) and which end at the end of the divisi section. I tried the same solution that works for single-stave ossias as explained in the Documentation, but unfortunately that doesn't work (the main problem is that the bracket starts at the beginning of the line and also it was not possible to assign instrumentName and/or shordInstrumentName values to the ossia staves created that way). Thank you for any help, Ádám ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multiple-staff ossia
- Original Message - From: Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu To: lilypond-user Users lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: Multiple-staff ossia Dear List, is there a way to create a multiple-staff ossia? I need to expand a divisi section in a string part score that lasts a couple of bars only. The basic idea would be to have a StaffGroup that starts in the middle of the page (at the point where the divisi section begins) and which end at the end of the divisi section. I tried the same solution that works for single-stave ossias as explained in the Documentation, but unfortunately that doesn't work (the main problem is that the bracket starts at the beginning of the line and also it was not possible to assign instrumentName and/or shordInstrumentName values to the ossia staves created that way). Thank you for any help, Ádám === From your description, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Could you provide a small graphic showing what you have, and another edited version to show what you want? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tie to note inside double backslashing voicing
Thanks for your input. I've tried both methods and I have the same problem.
When I add a cresc. to the measure, the spacing of my entire piece gets
completely messed up. I don't understand why Lilypond won't allow me to
create dynamics without destroying the spacing of my piece.
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi,
Look up explicitly instantiating voices in the docs.
a better way to do single note dynamics?
If you're not worried about MIDI/playback, then g2.*2/3\ s4\! works well
[visually].
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
On 2012-Apr-6, at 12:00, trandrusiii wrote:
Hi,
The only way I've found to create dynamics for a single note is to use
voicing with spacers. This worked ok for a while but now I have a note
that
is tied to the upper voice and I get an error message saying that the tie
is
not terminated and nothing shows up on the score. Has anyone experienced
this before? or know a better way to do single note dynamics? Thanks.
r c'( a
fis'\ a, d,)
g2.~\mp
{ g2. } \\ { s4\ s4 s4\! } %no tie
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Re: Multiple-staff ossia
On 2012.04.07., at 16:16, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu
To: lilypond-user Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: Multiple-staff ossia
Dear List,
is there a way to create a multiple-staff ossia? I need to expand a divisi
section in a string part score that lasts a couple of bars only. The basic
idea would be to have a StaffGroup that starts in the middle of the page (at
the point where the divisi section begins) and which end at the end of the
divisi section. I tried the same solution that works for single-stave ossias
as explained in the Documentation, but unfortunately that doesn't work (the
main problem is that the bracket starts at the beginning of the line and also
it was not possible to assign instrumentName and/or shordInstrumentName
values to the ossia staves created that way).
Thank you for any help,
Ádám
===
From your description, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Could you
provide a small graphic showing what you have, and another edited version to
show what you want?
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Dear Phil,
in the meantime I almost solved it, you'll find my current solution with some
dummy minimal-example material at the end of this mail. What I'm still missing
here is the ability of giving instrument names (like 1, 2, 3 etc.) to the ossia
staves.
Thanks,
Ádám
\version 2.14.2
\score {
\new Staff = main {
\relative c' {
\clef treble \time 4/4
% Example played by all strings
c4 d e f
% Example played divisi
% Main material
{ c d e f g1^div. \glissando g' f e d c1 \glissando c, d e f
g }
% Ossia staves explaining how to make the glissandi
\new StaffGroup \with {
alignAboveContext = #main
fontSize = #-3
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -4)
\override SpanBar #'transparent = ##t
\override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
\override StaffGrouper #'staff-staff-spacing #'minimum-distance = #0
\override StaffGrouper #'staff-staff-spacing #'basic-distance = #0
\override SystemStartBracket #'X-offset = #0
}
\new Staff \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver } {
\relative c' {
\clef treble c1 \glissando g'1 \glissando c,1
}
}
\new Staff \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver } {
\relative c' {
\clef treble d1 \glissando f1 \glissando d1
}
}
\new Staff \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver } {
\relative c' {
\clef treble e1 \glissando \hideNotes e128 \unHideNotes
\stopStaff \once \override TextScript #'Y-offset = #-0.5 s4^etc.
}
}
\new Staff \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver } {
\relative c' {
\clef treble f1 \glissando d1 \glissando f1
}
}
\new Staff \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver } {
\relative c' {
\clef treble g'1 \glissando c,1 \glissando g'1
}
}
% Example played by all strings
f4 e d c
}
}
% Increase glissando visibility
\layout { \context { \Voice \override Glissando #'thickness = #3 } }
}
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Laborejo Release 0.2 Announcement
Exactly one month after the first release, here is Laborejo 0.2! Laborejo, Esperanto for Workshop, is used to craft music through notation. It is a Lilypond GUI frontend, a MIDI creator and finally a tool collection to inspire and help you compose. It works by reducing music-redundancy and by seperating layout and data. The next release is scheduled for May, 8th. One month from now. Before you read the details make sure to connect to Laborejos Facebook, Twitter or Google Plus! https://www.facebook.com/Laborejo https://twitter.com/#!/Laborejo https://plus.google.com/b/116744898976321238325/ Screenshot (Laborejo and Lilypond, side by side): http://www.laborejo.org/images/screenshots/latestscreenshot.png This is the release of version 0.2 Download: https://github.com/nilsgey/Laborejo/tarball/0.2 Dependencies: http://www.laborejo.org/documentation Linux Instructions: Unpack, cd into the created directoy, execute: ./laborejo-qt.sh Then use the number- and cursor keys for immediate success! Check Help-Manual for navigational and note/rest entry keys. Everything else is in the menus. New since version 0.1: - Repeats, Alternate Ends and Jumps in various forms. The main Feature for this release. - Playback Trigger (Only reduce volume in the second repeat or Mute track if python weather module reports rain) - Master Track (Merges with every other Track. Use to structure your piece, make global changes, change tempo etc.) - Various Commands like Join Selection to Chord and Add Octave to Chord/Selection - The usual breadbutter bugfixing and improving. Most important known problems: * This is Alpha Grade Software. Don't use for long-term work. However, the produced midis and PDFs will last forever. * There is no built-in jack midi output yet. You have to export midi files. * Documentation is nearly non-existent. Have fun, it would be nice to hear from you! Nils http://www.laborejo.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Bug: lyrics vertical spacing and dynamics with extra-offset
Dear list
I am writing down the Tenor part of Mendelssohn’s Elias (Elijah) and stumbled
upon the following, which clearly is a bug (to me).
I attached the three bars of the piece in which it appears. Notice that both
the upper and the lower voice contain a Dynamic mark. The two marks have an
extra-offset each to get them closer to the staff.
In the first score, the lyrics are put nicely close to the staff. But as soon
as the lower lyrics span across the space where the dynamic mark would be
without the offset, both lyrics seem to ignore the space that became available
by using the extra-offset. Thus, the distance to the staff increases again.
Is that a bug? Or am I making a mistake here?
PS.: Because there has been no reply to it and others also reported problems
with ML delivery, did you get my mail about a regression concerning order of
MIDI tracks (from 3. April)?
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\version 2.14.2
\paper {
score-system-spacing #'padding = #13
}
music = \relative c' {
\clef G_8
\key f \major
a c8. f16 f4 { \voiceTwo
r2
r4 g
\once \override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'(-2.5 . 1.5)
b4._\ff b8
} \new Voice = TenorInsert { \voiceOne
c4. g8 d'2(
\once \override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'(-0.5 . -1.5)
e4.)^\sf c8
} \oneVoice
a c2 r
}
text = \lyricmode { hö -- re uns, er -- hö -- re uns! }
textShort = \lyricmode { hö -- re uns, er }
\score {
\new ChoirStaff \new Staff = Tenor
\music
\addlyrics \textShort
\new Lyrics \with {alignAboveContext = Tenor}
\lyricsto TenorInsert
\lyricmode { Baal, er -- hö -- re }
}
\score {
\new ChoirStaff \new Staff = Tenor
\music
\addlyrics \text
\new Lyrics \with {alignAboveContext = Tenor}
\lyricsto TenorInsert
\lyricmode { Baal, er -- hö -- re }
}
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Re: lyrics vertical spacing and dynamics with extra-offset
Frank, you wrote Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:33 PM I attached the three bars of the piece in which it appears. Notice that both the upper and the lower voice contain a Dynamic mark. The two marks have an extra-offset each to get them closer to the staff. In the first score, the lyrics are put nicely close to the staff. But as soon as the lower lyrics span across the space where the dynamic mark would be without the offset, both lyrics seem to ignore the space that became available by using the extra-offset. Thus, the distance to the staff increases again. Is that a bug? Or am I making a mistake here? It's not a bug, and not really a mistake either. But extra-offset should be used only as a last resort, as the extra displacement is made only _after_ _all_ typesetting is finished. So extra space is ignored. This is explained in the Learning Manual: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/moving-objects Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tie to note inside double backslashing voicing
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:29 PM, trandrusiii tr.and...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your input. I've tried both methods and I have the same problem. When I add a cresc. to the measure, the spacing of my entire piece gets completely messed up. I don't understand why Lilypond won't allow me to create dynamics without destroying the spacing of my piece. I don't understand. Is this a new problem or do you have trouble with explicit voices? I don't see a \cresc in the code you posted. Can you post sample code again, with an illustration of what you want to achieve? cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics vertical spacing and dynamics with extra-offset
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Frank, you wrote Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:33 PM I attached the three bars of the piece in which it appears. Notice that both the upper and the lower voice contain a Dynamic mark. The two marks have an extra-offset each to get them closer to the staff. In the first score, the lyrics are put nicely close to the staff. But as soon as the lower lyrics span across the space where the dynamic mark would be without the offset, both lyrics seem to ignore the space that became available by using the extra-offset. Thus, the distance to the staff increases again. Is that a bug? Or am I making a mistake here? It's not a bug, and not really a mistake either. But extra-offset should be used only as a last resort, as the extra displacement is made only _after_ _all_ typesetting is finished. So extra space is ignored. In other words zou should override X-offset and Y-offset here, not extra-offset. HTH, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
v 2.15.36 on Mac OS
I can confirm that LilyPond v. 2.15.36 on both x86 and PPC platforms running OS X 10.5.8 correctly compiles previously coded files. Stan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: v 2.15.36 on Mac OS
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Re: tie to note inside double backslashing voicing
Hi. The problem I am having now is different. When I attempt to add a hairpin decres the spacing of my entire piece gets corrupted. I've attached a screencap to illustrate. I would like the spacing to remain at 31 or 32 pages. http://old.nabble.com/file/p33649921/spacingproblem.jpg spacingproblem.jpg Janek Warchoł-2 wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:29 PM, trandrusiii tr.and...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your input. I've tried both methods and I have the same problem. When I add a cresc. to the measure, the spacing of my entire piece gets completely messed up. I don't understand why Lilypond won't allow me to create dynamics without destroying the spacing of my piece. I don't understand. Is this a new problem or do you have trouble with explicit voices? I don't see a \cresc in the code you posted. Can you post sample code again, with an illustration of what you want to achieve? cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/tie-to-note-inside-double-backslashing-voicing-tp33637252p33649921.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tie to note inside double backslashing voicing
On 2012-04-06 18:00, trandrusiii wrote:
The only way I've found to create dynamics for a single note is to use
voicing with spacers. This worked ok for a while but now I have a note that
is tied to the upper voice and I get an error message saying that the tie is
not terminated and nothing shows up on the score. Has anyone experienced
this before? or know a better way to do single note dynamics?
Don't use \\ (i.e. simply leave the double backslash out, which creates
two separate voices):
{ g2. } { s4\ s4 s4\! } %no tie
This does not create new voices, but simply placed the g2. in parallel
with the spacers in the same voice (i.e. if you would use notes instead
of the spacers, you would get collisions etc.)
Cheers,
Reinhold
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non-standard mensural clef
i'm trying to re-create this hymn and i've stumbled upon the clef(s) i didn't find in lilypond documentation and anywhere on the Internet. does anybody know what's this and how can i do it in lilypond? here's the scan: http://i35.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0407/b2/0d1272c45e5e8c98575c8fa1838c5ab2.png it's from Manvale choricanum ab utriusque sexus choricistis concupitum by Casoni, Giovanni Agostino (1649). ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bug: lyrics vertical spacing and dynamics with extra-offset
On 2012-04-07 20:33, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: In the first score, the lyrics are put nicely close to the staff. But as soon as the lower lyrics span across the space where the dynamic mark would be without the offset, both lyrics seem to ignore the space that became available by using the extra-offset. Thus, the distance to the staff increases again. Is that a bug? Or am I making a mistake here? As the internals documentation says, extra-offset is only applied AFTER all layouting has been done. The vertical spacing is still done with the original position. You can, however, override the *-position. Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: non-standard mensural clef
Hello, On 7 April 2012 15:57, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.com wrote: i'm trying to re-create this hymn and i've stumbled upon the clef(s) i didn't find in lilypond documentation and anywhere on the Internet. does anybody know what's this and how can i do it in lilypond? here's the scan: http://i35.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0407/b2/0d1272c45e5e8c98575c8fa1838c5ab2.png it's from Manvale choricanum ab utriusque sexus choricistis concupitum by Casoni, Giovanni Agostino (1649). I'm absolutely no expert but looks sort of petrucci to me http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/the-feta-font#petrucci-glyphs James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Status of Mutopia Project
Has the Mutopia Project gone moribund again? There were some new scores being added a few months ago, but nothing new has appeared since early February, and I haven't received any response to a couple of mails I sent about errors in a couple of ly files on the site. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
