Re: Lilypond segfaults on Ubuntu, doesn't compile music on Mac
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 01:43:40AM +, Keith OHara wrote: > Keith OHara oco.net> writes: > > > > > Jeff Barnes yahoo.com> writes: > > > > > The following music doesn't compile on the mac and > > > causes a segfault on Linux. > > > > it is being tracked at > > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2562 > > > I started cutting down the example, and recognize the problem now. A voice > switching from one staff to another, as in piano music, near the end of a > piece. I'll post a tiny example to the tracker. That's excellent work, Keith. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ly2video - create videos from your LilyPond projects
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, FireTight wrote: > > Hello, > my name is Jiri "FireTight" Szabo and I would like to introduce program > ly2video to you. This program can generate videos from your LilyPond > projects that contains moving music staff, which is synchronized to music ( > http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL444F0513202699C4&feature=view_all > examples ). If you are interested, you can download it > http://code.google.com/p/ly2video/downloads/detail?name=ly2video_v1.0.zip > here . I hope you will enjoy it! :) > Cool! You might find lilypond's new dev/one-line-page-breaking branch useful. With that branch, if you add page-breaking = #ly:one-line-page-breaking then you'll get each score laid out on a single line (paper-width will be ignored). So far, that branch is just a half-hour hack, so the usual disclaimers apply... Cheers, Joe ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: customized bar line?
I solved it! \set Timing.defaultBarType = "'" BEst, Jong On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Jonghyun Kim wrote: > dear list, > > I want to do customize the bar lines as default. > > Default set is = " | " > > But I want to customize with = " ' " > > How can I do that? > > Best, > Jong > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)
On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:28:02 + (UTC) Klaus Föhl wrote: > Hello, > > I like the lilypond notation using \relative being concise and readable. > Entering on a computer keyboard is fairly quick, but still it feels > that playing a melody line would be so much quicker. In particular > if one does not have a typing c4 d e f g1 style but c4 d4. e8 f8. g16 c,1 > > What "better" methods exist? > > For example I have looked into rosegarden output. > Minor issue:the output is not in relative notation. > More cumbersome are slightly non-aligned notes to the beat > (me being an imperfect human) and in particular varying > note lengths introducing rests where the music and the audible sound > both have none. > > I have seen techniques where the pitch is via piano keyboard > and rhythm is via computer keyboard. I am not fully convinced. > > I have seen a custom-designed computer keyboard that combines > pitch and duration. It might work well after a learning curve. > > What I am tempted is to take midi file information (i.e. gunzip a.rg), > or the rosegarden ly output and reverse-engineer it into event lists. > Whatever the detail: only piano-keyboard input and get both pitch and length. > > Then to apply some smart quantisation. For one thing notes like c1 > are much more likely than c2... or alignment with bars is probable, > aspects that require some adaptive rules, possibly some parameter training. > Also the routine should pick up and follow the meter as played, > as opposed to techniques providing the rigid mentronome frame. > > Well, before I reinvent the wheel myself: are such things already out there? > > Cheers > Klaus > There are some GUIs that make it easier to use actual notes to create Lilypond files. How well they perform.. I'll leave this discussion to other people. Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
customized bar line?
dear list, I want to do customize the bar lines as default. Default set is = " | " But I want to customize with = " ' " How can I do that? Best, Jong ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Removing superfluous mensural signs
Marcel Korpel wrote:
>
> I added repeated mensural signs (like it was in the source).
> When looking at the end of bar 36, you can see that the sign is drawn
> too early (and it is repeated at the beginning of bar 37).
>
> How do I remove the extra signs at the end of bar 36?
>
>
I think it's default behavior to announce the time signature change in the
end of the line before it happens - you can override this behavior:
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
or simply
\layout { \context { \Staff \override TimeSignature #'break-visibility =
#end-of-line-invisible }}
to make it work for all staffs
hth
Eluze
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Syntax for vibrato, bends, etc.?
Hi, I am notating general instruments and trying to determine how I should best notate that a pitch should have significant vibrato on it. I'm also a bit stymied by \bendAfter -- is that the only notation for bends? How would I notate the bend-up/bend-down antics of guitarists? ~ C. -- When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? ~ Keynes Corbin Simpson ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)
Klaus Föhl writes: >> midi2ly, obviously. It sucks royally for human-created input. Look up >> Viterbi decoders and/or hidden Markov chains for a plan how to do better. > > So far I have mentally broken down the task into two main chunks: > 1) establish the maths function/relation recording time versus music piece > time > 2) transform the note durations into something sensible > While item two would in principle use the information from item two, > my personal experience is that note_off/duration is usually less > accurate than note_start_timing. > >> My personal approach would be to let Emacs record notes and timings via >> Midi, and display just the notes without duration. You manually place >> bar checks, and it then calculates the durations in between. If you >> have "typos" in between, you just delete them before quantizing the >> measure, and they are taken out including the time they took. > > So you would store the timing in a non-screen-visible location? Fair > enough. It would be a text property (you want to have it follow copy&paste). And mouse-over could give a guess. But I would think that it would be distracting if the stuff would flicker around while you are doing note entry. > If that were to work to not bar-check every single bar but optionally > only start and end of a 4, 6, 8, in general n-measure phrase than that > would give you a lean workflow. When it gets more complicated, you > shorten bar-check intervals. It would not necessarily be required to tell: it should be reasonably workable to guess how many measures are in between once the editor has "got the hang" of the timing. >> That would seem like an efficient workflow to me, without much of a >> bad impact of playing errors and uneven timing: the consequences are >> local. > > Well, at the start I thought of supplying initial conditions, > but the boundary conditions approach promises to be better in > stability. Whatever approach you choose, I think it important to be able to pepper additional quantization information in between where required, without prescribing a rigid workflow. You basically want to _converge_ to the right solution using the provided help on the fly. > To establish the main "wise quantisation" algorithm, including > externally accessible tuning/adjusting parameters. I think that painless interactivity beats smart batch mode in this case. Your mileage may differ with an excellent sightreading keyboard player playing to a rhythm computer. But I know that when I do a recording (for Youtube etc) it takes a _lot_ of takes until I get something half-way decent. And it would be stupid to have one measure of junk ruin the whole take, when you can just delete it with the editor. Of course, you also need to be able to replay sound, to figure out where the junk is sitting. The main thing, in my opinion, is the smoothness of editing/correction/clue providing interactivity. If you get that right, "pretty good" for the quantization will work fine. You can also do things like show hand-entered durations in a "definite" color, and derived durations shaded. You can validate the derived stuff and it become definitive. And so on. You don't type a whole article in one piece, and retype from the beginning if you made a mistake. So why expect this from music entry? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)
> midi2ly, obviously. It sucks royally for human-created input. Look up > Viterbi decoders and/or hidden Markov chains for a plan how to do better. So far I have mentally broken down the task into two main chunks: 1) establish the maths function/relation recording time versus music piece time 2) transform the note durations into something sensible While item two would in principle use the information from item two, my personal experience is that note_off/duration is usually less accurate than note_start_timing. > My personal approach would be to let Emacs record notes and timings via > Midi, and display just the notes without duration. You manually place > bar checks, and it then calculates the durations in between. If you > have "typos" in between, you just delete them before quantizing the > measure, and they are taken out including the time they took. So you would store the timing in a non-screen-visible location? Fair enough. If that were to work to not bar-check every single bar but optionally only start and end of a 4, 6, 8, in general n-measure phrase than that would give you a lean workflow. When it gets more complicated, you shorten bar-check intervals. > That would seem like an efficient workflow to me, without much of a bad > impact of playing errors and uneven timing: the consequences are local. Well, at the start I thought of supplying initial conditions, but the boundary conditions approach promises to be better in stability. > Of course, this is purely hypothetical for now, but it seems like a good > plan for somebody (TM) to implement. To establish the main "wise quantisation" algorithm, including externally accessible tuning/adjusting parameters. Cheers Klaus ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)
Am 26.05.2012 18:46, schrieb David Kastrup: Andrew Hawryluk writes: Maybe someday the computer will be able to see or hear the music in my head and type it out ... no, scratch that. Mind-reading computers doesn't sounds like a good idea at all: we're trying to keep the humans in charge of this place, after all! I have no problems with mind-reading fingers. They leave me perfectly well in charge. In fact, more so than I would be without them. It would be more worrisome if we had mind-writing computers. :-) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to cancel voice so ties are right direction
Am 26.05.2012 18:23, schrieb Jeff Barnes:
Thanks for the replies, everyone.
David Kastrup wrote:
\relative c' takes a music expression as an argument, and in this case,
the argument is the parallel music<< ...>>.
Interesting. Does \voiceXXX take a music expression too? If so, can I set the
bounds of the expression with {}?
I don't see that you have a "wrong" tie direction. Take all the
parallel music out, and LilyPond will choose the same tie. If you want
to flip it up explicitly, probably the easiest way is writing ^~ instead
of ~.
I've found a general need to add \xxxNeutral after using \voices to get stems, ties,
tuplets, etc to line up "correctly"
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/within_002dstaff-objects). It's not
clear to me what the bounds of \voiceXXX are.
\voiceXXX is a switch that changes several direction properties
(UP/DOWN) and the behaviour of horizontal shifts.
It doesn't take an expression after it, so no boundaries.
If you use \voiceXXX and want everything 'neutral' at some point
afterwards then what you're looking for might be \oneVoice.
So:
\new Voice {
\voiceOne % Everything that follows now is "voice One"
...
\voiceTwo % Everything is "voice Two" from now on
...
\oneVoice % Everything is now in a neutral state (i.e. only one voice
without having to deal with other voices)
...
}
What might be irritating is how voices are managed with the different
syntax options, and how this effects the music after the polyphonic section.
But I think this is explained in Phil's link
HTH
Urs
If expression boundaries impact the state of the parser, it seems Lily is
adding a burden to the user by forcing the user to manage expression boundaries
without a consistent way to define the boundaries. At least, that's the
objection that's inside my noob head, anyway. Also, trying to fix the tie
problem sent me through the path of adding all sorts of things to the music
that made reading it more difficult.
I looked at the grammar at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/lilypond-grammar. Where is
\voiceXXX defined?
Jeff
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Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)
Andrew Hawryluk writes: > Maybe someday the computer will be able to see or hear the music in my > head and type it out ... no, scratch that. Mind-reading computers > doesn't sounds like a good idea at all: we're trying to keep the > humans in charge of this place, after all! I have no problems with mind-reading fingers. They leave me perfectly well in charge. In fact, more so than I would be without them. It would be more worrisome if we had mind-writing computers. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to cancel voice so ties are right direction
- Original Message - From: "Jeff Barnes" To: "David Kastrup" ; I looked at the grammar at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/lilypond-grammar. Where is \voiceXXX defined? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Removing superfluous mensural signs
Hi all, Please have a look at http://pastebin.com/uxvQGR7y Using `\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(2 . 2)` (lines 74 & 78, etc.) I added repeated mensural signs (like it was in the source). When looking at the end of bar 36, you can see that the sign is drawn too early (and it is repeated at the beginning of bar 37). How do I remove the extra signs at the end of bar 36? Thank you in advance! Marcel ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Klaus Föhl wrote: > Hello, > > I like the lilypond notation using \relative being concise and readable. > Entering on a computer keyboard is fairly quick, but still it feels > that playing a melody line would be so much quicker. In particular > if one does not have a typing c4 d e f g1 style but c4 d4. e8 f8. g16 c,1 > > What "better" methods exist? > > "Better" will depend on your preference, but LilyPondTool offers midi input without any additional dependencies: http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/fileadmin/lilypondtool/docs/ch06s01.html I have written a MIDI input plugin for jEdit that does no more than listen for MIDI pitches and type them as relative pitches in your preferred language, interpreted according to the tonality you set: http://musicbyandrew.ca/MidiInput.jar The durations and all other text are entered on the computer keyboard, which is not entirely convenient, but I find it helpful when there is a high ratio of pitches to duration changes (e.g. many Bach keyboard works): http://musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html It is also helpful when there are large skips and I don't want to mentally compute the relative octave indications. I've gone back to plain old typing because my MIDI keyboard is not currently close to the computer, I'm not writing Bach, and the development version (2.15) supports 'q' as a way of repeating an entire previous chord, e.g. 16 q q q. Maybe someday the computer will be able to see or hear the music in my head and type it out ... no, scratch that. Mind-reading computers doesn't sounds like a good idea at all: we're trying to keep the humans in charge of this place, after all! Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to cancel voice so ties are right direction
Thanks for the replies, everyone.
David Kastrup wrote:
> \relative c' takes a music expression as an argument, and in this case,
> the argument is the parallel music << ... >>.
Interesting. Does \voiceXXX take a music expression too? If so, can I set the
bounds of the expression with {}?
> I don't see that you have a "wrong" tie direction. Take all the
> parallel music out, and LilyPond will choose the same tie. If you want
> to flip it up explicitly, probably the easiest way is writing ^~ instead
> of ~.
I've found a general need to add \xxxNeutral after using \voices to get stems,
ties, tuplets, etc to line up "correctly"
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/within_002dstaff-objects). It's
not clear to me what the bounds of \voiceXXX are.
If expression boundaries impact the state of the parser, it seems Lily is
adding a burden to the user by forcing the user to manage expression boundaries
without a consistent way to define the boundaries. At least, that's the
objection that's inside my noob head, anyway. Also, trying to fix the tie
problem sent me through the path of adding all sorts of things to the music
that made reading it more difficult.
I looked at the grammar at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/lilypond-grammar. Where is
\voiceXXX defined?
Jeff
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Re: ly2video - create videos from your LilyPond projects
Janek Warchoł-2 wrote: > > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:00 AM, FireTight wrote: >> Janek Warchoł-2 wrote: >>> I have one idea: instead of moving the score, move the line. It will >>> be easier on eyes (especially in fast tempos), and i suppose that the >>> jerks will be less visible. >> >> You mean something like sequence of static images of music staff and just >> switch between them, when the line reaches the end of one image? > > Yes. > And btw, i see several copies of your e-mail. If you send a message > and don't see it immediately on the mailing list, wait half a day > before sending it again. Sometimes there are delays (up to several > hours). > > cheers, > Janek > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > Ok, sorry about that! :) -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/ly2video---create-videos-from-your-LilyPond-projects-tp33897492p33912556.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?
Mark Mathias writes: > I enjoyed reading your exchange. I share your gratitude for the > LilyPond community which is why I decided to join the Bug Squad on a > trial basis several months ago, and, when I am able, to contribute > financially to one of the developers. Part of my frustration with > Finale over many years was the feeling of being lost in the dark with > no one to help when something went wrong, coupled with the fact that > every upgrade rendered my files useless to anyone with an older > version of the program. Well, let us be fair here: convert-ly is a one-way street as well. But upgrading LilyPond is not all that hard. And one _can_ downgrade a source manually more often than not, a course that is not feasible with closed file formats that are not human-readable. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ly2video - create videos from your LilyPond projects
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:00 AM, FireTight wrote: > Janek Warchoł-2 wrote: >> I have one idea: instead of moving the score, move the line. It will >> be easier on eyes (especially in fast tempos), and i suppose that the >> jerks will be less visible. > > You mean something like sequence of static images of music staff and just > switch between them, when the line reaches the end of one image? Yes. And btw, i see several copies of your e-mail. If you send a message and don't see it immediately on the mailing list, wait half a day before sending it again. Sometimes there are delays (up to several hours). cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Christ van Willegen wrote: > I tend to be such a casual user (Oh, a song we're singing in the choir > has been hand-written 20+ years ago, has been copied 30-ish times and > can now hardly be read. Let me-re-engrave that...) this I almost > always need to re-learn Lily to get it right :-( Well, I guess I need > to make some base files to get started, then! Out of curiosity: do you forget general rules of LilyPond syntax (for example where to place special characters like # ' -), or rather some special constructs (for example how to notate clusters or cross-voice ties)? I'm asking because we're going to discuss Lily syntax this summer and i'd like to know what exactly shall be discussed. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Video recording of LilyPond talk at Chemnitz
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jeff Barnes If the use of the fonts were covered by LilyPond's license, that would pretty > much > kill using LilyPond for anything at a publishing house, wouldn't it? There's something called "font exception" which says that having LilyPond's font in the engraving doesn't make this engraving GPL-ed. > Does distributing a pdf of Lily's output potentially mean you have to make > Lily's source, > the .ly file, or any other artifact the user created using Lily available > under GPL? of course not. LilyPond is a tool; using a tool to produce something doesn't mean that the created thing is a derivative of the tool. Music produced using LilyPond is not a "LilyPond derivative work". In short: don't worry. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?
Gentlemen, I enjoyed reading your exchange. I share your gratitude for the LilyPond community which is why I decided to join the Bug Squad on a trial basis several months ago, and, when I am able, to contribute financially to one of the developers. Part of my frustration with Finale over many years was the feeling of being lost in the dark with no one to help when something went wrong, coupled with the fact that every upgrade rendered my files useless to anyone with an older version of the program. Also, on a personal note, congratulations to you and your families for the baptisms. Tomorrow I celebrate the completion of another year of service in one of my church's music ensembles with my daughter (she leads the group) and *my* year-old grand-daughter! LilyPond has helped the group a lot! Mark On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Christ van Willegen wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Philip Thomas > wrote: > > Dear Christ, > > > I just opened your email and have saved the attachment. I will find out > in > > the coming hours whether it does indeed help in dealing with the problems > > that I'm encountering. > Ok, good luck! > > > But I wanted to say, now, how much I appreciate your > > digging it out. I guess you must be the user forum administrator or > > something like that, but even with good record keeping it must have taken > > quite some effort on your part to find something submitted 6 years ago. > No problem at all! Since you quoted part of the original mail, I could > type that into GMail's search box, and it came up with the original > mail instantly ;-) > > And, I'm just a regular user, not an administrator _at all_. > > > I am a comparative beginner, and I have been amazed at how ready the > > LilyPond community is to answer questions, even when asking them displays > > ignorance about the documentation. > > That's true, and kudos to all for: > - Making LilyPond > - Making LilyPond possible > - Making LilyPond progress > - Making docs (as a programmer, who hates making docs, I know how hard > it is to describe anything at all, esp. if it needs to be read by > humans ;-) ) > - Replying on this nice mailing list > - Etc > - Etc > > > In fact I do try to help myself as much > > as I can by researching the documentation and the forum, but there is a > > learning curve that one needs to persist in climbing, and I suspect most > > people (particularly non-programmer types) need some help from others in > > order to succeed. > > Yes, you need to > - learn it, and > - keep up with it > > I tend to be such a casual user (Oh, a song we're singing in the choir > has been hand-written 20+ years ago, has been copied 30-ish times and > can now hardly be read. Let me-re-engrave that...) this I almost > always need to re-learn Lily to get it right :-( Well, I guess I need > to make some base files to get started, then! > > > Both you and, of course, Markus Schneider with his > > original post (even though I don't know whether he is still an active > user), > > are generous sources of such help to me. > > No problem! > > > Have a great weekend. > > You too! > > > I'll be spending a large part of my weekend polishing > > up a special "edition" of a piece for the choir to sing at my baby > > grandson's baptism in a few weeks' time. > > At my own (girl's) baptism, me, my wife and 2 good friends sang a song > as well. It gives such a nice personal touch to the baptism! > > Congrats on your baby grandson! > > > I hope the attachment you sent will > > help me to sort out (most particularly) an ugly near-collision between > volta > > brackets and the key signature, but even if it doesn't work, I already > feel > > mightily heartened by your kindness. Thank you so much. > > Good luck, hope it helps! If not, perhaps other people on the list can > look it over sometimes? > > Christ van Willegen > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Philip Thomas wrote: > Dear Christ, > I just opened your email and have saved the attachment. I will find out in > the coming hours whether it does indeed help in dealing with the problems > that I'm encountering. Ok, good luck! > But I wanted to say, now, how much I appreciate your > digging it out. I guess you must be the user forum administrator or > something like that, but even with good record keeping it must have taken > quite some effort on your part to find something submitted 6 years ago. No problem at all! Since you quoted part of the original mail, I could type that into GMail's search box, and it came up with the original mail instantly ;-) And, I'm just a regular user, not an administrator _at all_. > I am a comparative beginner, and I have been amazed at how ready the > LilyPond community is to answer questions, even when asking them displays > ignorance about the documentation. That's true, and kudos to all for: - Making LilyPond - Making LilyPond possible - Making LilyPond progress - Making docs (as a programmer, who hates making docs, I know how hard it is to describe anything at all, esp. if it needs to be read by humans ;-) ) - Replying on this nice mailing list - Etc - Etc > In fact I do try to help myself as much > as I can by researching the documentation and the forum, but there is a > learning curve that one needs to persist in climbing, and I suspect most > people (particularly non-programmer types) need some help from others in > order to succeed. Yes, you need to - learn it, and - keep up with it I tend to be such a casual user (Oh, a song we're singing in the choir has been hand-written 20+ years ago, has been copied 30-ish times and can now hardly be read. Let me-re-engrave that...) this I almost always need to re-learn Lily to get it right :-( Well, I guess I need to make some base files to get started, then! > Both you and, of course, Markus Schneider with his > original post (even though I don't know whether he is still an active user), > are generous sources of such help to me. No problem! > Have a great weekend. You too! > I'll be spending a large part of my weekend polishing > up a special "edition" of a piece for the choir to sing at my baby > grandson's baptism in a few weeks' time. At my own (girl's) baptism, me, my wife and 2 good friends sang a song as well. It gives such a nice personal touch to the baptism! Congrats on your baby grandson! > I hope the attachment you sent will > help me to sort out (most particularly) an ugly near-collision between volta > brackets and the key signature, but even if it doesn't work, I already feel > mightily heartened by your kindness. Thank you so much. Good luck, hope it helps! If not, perhaps other people on the list can look it over sometimes? Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Video recording of LilyPond talk at Chemnitz
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Hi Janek, > > better don't talk too much about these things. ok. I got too excited - sorry. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Full bar tremolo with accidentals fails
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:42 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: >> Somewhere in the future it may be good to change bug-lilypond into >> lilypond-bug, though. At least in my opinion. > > http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html#Standard-Mailing-Lists> I see the rule, but i don't see any reason behind it. No point in wasting time on discussing this now, though (unless you want to). best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?
> Subject: Re: Volta + rehearsal mark? > > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Philip Thomas wrote: > >> I realize, of course, that the above is an old post, and it seems that >> Markus has not been active on the forum for a few years. I came across >> his post while searching for inspiration in addressing some problems >> with volta bracket alignment, and I hoped that Markus's attachment might be useful. >> However, what follows his signature in the post is a load of >> apparently meaningless characters. If this means that his attachment >> has gone with the wind, well that's just the way it is. On the other >> hand, if there is something elementary that I can do in order to see >> the attachment, then I would be most grateful to hear about it. > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 17:37, Christ van Willegen wrote: > > Here's the original attachment. > > HTH! > > Christ van Willegen > -- > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Dear Christ, I just opened your email and have saved the attachment. I will find out in the coming hours whether it does indeed help in dealing with the problems that I'm encountering. But I wanted to say, now, how much I appreciate your digging it out. I guess you must be the user forum administrator or something like that, but even with good record keeping it must have taken quite some effort on your part to find something submitted 6 years ago. I am a comparative beginner, and I have been amazed at how ready the LilyPond community is to answer questions, even when asking them displays ignorance about the documentation. In fact I do try to help myself as much as I can by researching the documentation and the forum, but there is a learning curve that one needs to persist in climbing, and I suspect most people (particularly non-programmer types) need some help from others in order to succeed. Both you and, of course, Markus Schneider with his original post (even though I don't know whether he is still an active user), are generous sources of such help to me. Have a great weekend. I'll be spending a large part of my weekend polishing up a special "edition" of a piece for the choir to sing at my baby grandson's baptism in a few weeks' time. I hope the attachment you sent will help me to sort out (most particularly) an ugly near-collision between volta brackets and the key signature, but even if it doesn't work, I already feel mightily heartened by your kindness. Thank you so much. Cheers, Philip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
