Re: Enc2ly: converter from Encore to Lilypond (GPLv3+)

2012-07-30 Thread Felipe Castro
2012/7/30 Graham Percival :
> Thanks for writing it and letting us know about it!  I've added a
> request to have this added to our "easier editing" webpage:
> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2706

Nice, I was just expecting for this link! :-)
But now I'm aware that someone else is crafting the same tool...
But I think it is always good to have more than one option, isn't it?

Cheers,
Felipe

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Re: Enc2ly: converter from Encore to Lilypond (GPLv3+)

2012-07-30 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
See https://github.com/hanwen/enc2ly/blob/master/enc2ly.go

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys  wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Felipe Castro  wrote:
>> Hello people,
>>
>> I have written a little program to convert from that infamous format, 
>> Encore, so
>> that I may use many scores available on the web, without much effort to 
>> retype
>> everything in lilypond.
>
> Hi there,
>
> coincidentally I've been writing a encore to lilypond converter over
> the past weeks as well (Most of the samba/choro stuff I can find
> online is in .enc), and I had some glances at your docs. (I wonder why
> some of it was in esperanto, though?), and will try to release what I
> have later this week; mine is barebones, but parses multi-staff scores
> as well.
>
> --
> Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen



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Macro to control spacing

2012-07-30 Thread Aleksandr Andreev
Hello list members,

I'm working on an approach to implement correct spacing of Kievan
notation (please see this issue:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2631 ). What I am
trying to accomplish is functionality whereby the notes within a
melisma are spaced as tightly as possible and there is a typical
amount of space between the melismas (see the pictures in the above
link).

So far, I'm using a workaround where each Slur is a new Spacing Section. E.g.:

\relative c' {
c2
\newSpacingSection
\override Score.SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing = ##t
e4(  d
\newSpacingSection
\override Score.SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing = ##f
c )
d
}

Now I am wondering if there is a way to write a macro that would
automatically place the new SpacingSection and set the packed-spacing
property when a Slur is created? Then, such a macro could become part
of a kievan.ly file (akin to gregorian.ly for Gregorian notation).

Thanks for your help,

Aleksandr

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Re: Enc2ly: converter from Encore to Lilypond (GPLv3+)

2012-07-30 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Felipe Castro  wrote:
> Hello people,
>
> I have written a little program to convert from that infamous format, Encore, 
> so
> that I may use many scores available on the web, without much effort to retype
> everything in lilypond.

Hi there,

coincidentally I've been writing a encore to lilypond converter over
the past weeks as well (Most of the samba/choro stuff I can find
online is in .enc), and I had some glances at your docs. (I wonder why
some of it was in esperanto, though?), and will try to release what I
have later this week; mine is barebones, but parses multi-staff scores
as well.

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Re: Lilypond syntax

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:01:01PM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
> Some weeks back there was some discussion of the Lilypond
> syntax, I made some suggestions and was asked to write up a
> sample .ly file with the ideas I had in mind.  Basically my
> notion was to separate content (notes and chords) from form
> (number of bars, repeats, codas, rehearsal marks, etc.) in how
> things are coded into .ly files.  I've been playing around with
> that some and here is a sample .ly file with some of those
> ideas.  They may be terrible ideas, they may be impractical,
> they might require a total rewrite of Lilypond to implement,
> etc.  I think like a musician, not a programmer, after all.  To
> me the form is the container of the music and it makes sense to
> specify the form first and then place the music within it.
> Others may see this very differently.

I like the general idea, but I have a feeling that most of this is
already possible if you use a \global variable or \applyOutput or
\applyContext or something like that.  I know that you are not a
programmer, but you might find it worthwhile to look into the
scheme side of lilypond.  There are also some "frameworks" like
Reinhold's orchestrallily which do some of this:
http://wiki.kainhofer.com/lilypond/orchestrallily

Also, please don't send copyrighted material to the mailing list.
Your ideas could have been demonstrated with something like

form = {
  "verse 1" = 4 bars
  "chorus" = 4 bars
}
music = {
  c1 c c c
  d1 d d d
}

obviously in more detail to show everything you had, but still --
there was no need to involve copyrighted material.  Remember that
even if you think that this usage is acceptable by the laws of
your country, other countries have different laws.

- Graham

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Re: Dealing with Deprecation (Was Re: Vertical spacing: Was between-system-space deprecated?)

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 04:25:54PM -0500, ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Does such a large revision of syntax where keywords are deprecated
> happen often?  How do people who have large collections of lilypond
> scores deal with this?

This is indeed a problem.  The developers are currently discussing
a proposal to define certain portions of the input as "stable"
(not changing) in order to lessen this problem.  However, that
solution is years away from stabilizing things like vertical
spacing.

Past discussion here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-07/msg00639.html
Updated proposal:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_4.html
(just sent to the -devel list a few minutes ago)

- Graham

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Re: Enc2ly: converter from Encore to Lilypond (GPLv3+)

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:35:08PM +, Felipe Castro wrote:
> I have written a little program to convert from that infamous format, Encore, 
> so 
> that I may use many scores available on the web, without much effort to 
> retype 
> everything in lilypond.
> 
> Here it is:
> http://enc2ly.sourceforge.net/en/

Thanks for writing it and letting us know about it!  I've added a
request to have this added to our "easier editing" webpage:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2706

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Dealing with Deprecation (Was Re: Vertical spacing: Was between-system-space deprecated?)

2012-07-30 Thread ivan . k . kuznetsov

-Eluze  writes:
>
> ivan.k.kuznetsov wrote:
> >
> > "Trevor Daniels"  writes:
> > >
> > > Did you use convert.ly to 'upgrade' your lilypond score?
> > [...]
> >
> > How has this been working for others?
>
> I always had good experiences with it!
>
> please try it and report your results!

Well, it did change the version number correctly to:

 \version "2.15.39"

Other than that,  convert-ly did nothing to my .ly files.

But then, "vertical spacing between systems" had such
a big change in syntax that it would be _difficult_
to write a script to change the old vertical spacing
syntax to the new.



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Re: New question - Threepenny Opera. Urgent, please help!

2012-07-30 Thread Gerard McConnell
Well, if you can't transpose at sight yourself and you haven't got time to
write it out in full then you have several options.

First, learn to play it in the original key, then write the chord symbols
in the NEW key above the piano part and learn to play your own arrangement
in the new key.   This is the best option for your development as a
musician.

Second, get a student to write it out in full; he/she will do it cheap.

Third, as David Kastrup said, you could borrow or rent a keyboard (and
amp/speakers?) with a transpose button for the performance. Of course it
depends on whether that's appropriate for the gig.

Fourth, hire a more experienced musician to play/transpose it for the
performance.

Finally, if none of the above work, get back to me to write it out for
you.  This will be the most expensive option.

My advice is, if you can't manage option one then hire the more experienced
pianist.

All the best,
Gerard


On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Rosel Labone wrote:

>  Hello oh helpful, lovely people of LilyPond Land!
>
> I just purchased two Kurt Weill pieces but they are in the wrong key. I
> need them transposed before next Saturday, or I need someone who already
> has them in the correct key??
>
> The pieces are:
>
> Pirate Jenny - needs to be transposed from A minor a tone lower, to G minor
> Solomon Song - need to be transposed to F# major
>
> I can forward you the PDFs if you can help me out...
>
> This is a matter of some urgency and anyone who can help will have my
> undying devotion!
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Rosel
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Re: pas encore parvenue à ouvrir le programme

2012-07-30 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Bonjour Scarlett,
avec LilyPond tu ne "verras" pas le programme comme les habituels
programmes Windows.
LilyPond traite le fichier *.ly et sort un pdf. C'est tout.
Pour avoir quelque chose de plus visuel, il faut choisir un éditeur plus
adapté : http://lilypond.org/easier-editing.fr.html
(personnellement je travail avec jEdit/LilypondTool).
Pour la transcription, si elle a déjà été faite sur papier, la coder avec
LilyPond peut être très rapide.
Bonne semaine,
Pierre

Le 30 juillet 2012 10:25, Hohmann Scarlett  a écrit
:

> Bonjour
>
> J'ai bien effectué le test : j'ai le PDF et le document en texte
> sauf que je ne parviens pas encore à ouvrir un programme 
>
> et comme le document est en anglais, je ne sais pas ce que j'ai manqué
>
> Merci d'avance pour l'aide
> parce que la notation musicale, c'est déjà assez compliqué, une grosse
> demande
> en temps, mais quand il n'y a même pas de programmes, c'est alors une
> perte de
> temps !
>
> Bien cordialement
>
> Scarlett Hohmann
> PS : je n'ai que le mois d'Août pour transcrire une partition de
> Charpentier en
> clés modernes...
>
>
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Re: pas encore parvenue à ouvrir le programme

2012-07-30 Thread David Bobroff
On 7/30/2012 8:25 AM, Hohmann Scarlett wrote:
> Bonjour
>
> J'ai bien effectué le test : j'ai le PDF et le document en texte
> sauf que je ne parviens pas encore à ouvrir un programme 
>
> et comme le document est en anglais, je ne sais pas ce que j'ai manqué
>
> Merci d'avance pour l'aide
> parce que la notation musicale, c'est déjà assez compliqué, une grosse demande
> en temps, mais quand il n'y a même pas de programmes, c'est alors une perte de
> temps !
>
> Bien cordialement
>
> Scarlett Hohmann 
> PS : je n'ai que le mois d'Août pour transcrire une partition de Charpentier 
> en
> clés modernes...
>
>
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http://www.lilypond.org/index.fr.html

-David

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pas encore parvenue à ouvrir le programme

2012-07-30 Thread Hohmann Scarlett
Bonjour

J'ai bien effectué le test : j'ai le PDF et le document en texte
sauf que je ne parviens pas encore à ouvrir un programme 

et comme le document est en anglais, je ne sais pas ce que j'ai manqué

Merci d'avance pour l'aide
parce que la notation musicale, c'est déjà assez compliqué, une grosse demande
en temps, mais quand il n'y a même pas de programmes, c'est alors une perte de
temps !

Bien cordialement

Scarlett Hohmann 
PS : je n'ai que le mois d'Août pour transcrire une partition de Charpentier en
clés modernes...


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