Re: Grace note aligned to beat

2012-10-11 Thread Keith OHara 
Oscar Dub  gmail.com> writes:

> Grace notes in LilyPond seem to be engraved before the note they are attached 
> to by default. Is there an
> override or a hack so I can get graces displayed as I'd like (i.e displacing 
> the note hosting them)?

If there are just a few, it is easier to write them as normal notes.
Explicitly specify that the first note is in small type, and that the
durations are shorter than what is literally shown on the printed score.

{\clef bass
 \stemUp \teeny gis8*1/2_(\> \stemNeutral \normalsize fis'1*15/16)\! }

The grace gets spaced like 1/2 of an eighth note, and then the whole note 
gets the remaining 15/16 of a whole note to fill the measure.


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Grace note aligned to beat

2012-10-11 Thread Oscar Dub 
Hi everyone,

I'm trying to replicate the grace note positioning in the score example 
attached, but I'm struggling to alter how the grace note gets placed relative 
to the other staff elements. I want the grace note to align with the note 
column of the whole note above, suggesting it would played on the beat rather 
than before.

Grace notes in LilyPond seem to be engraved before the note they are attached 
to by default. Is there an override or a hack so I can get graces displayed as 
I'd like (i.e displacing the note hosting them)?

Snippet code attached.

Thanks,

Oscar

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grace query.ly
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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Eluze 


Am 11.10.2012 22:34, schrieb wjm:

Greetings,
After several messages you wrote
"since the page is headed with /Manuals for LilyPond 2.16.0/ for me it's
clear that /docs/ are referenced."

The page doesn't make it clear that the pdf files are hidden in the 
"details if xxx" links.

Perhaps that could be made more obvious?
I hope this helps



yes, it would be clearer to "use pdf, html (full file) and html (split 
files) for Learning" instead!


Eluze


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Re: error message

2012-10-11 Thread Wim van Dommelen 

Hi Mark,

Very good, happy editing with Frescobaldi and LilyPond !

Regards,
Wim.

P.S. Copying to the list for the archive, in case somebody else  
searches it.


On 11 Oct 2012, at 18:11 , Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:


Mr. van Dommelen:

It Works!

Following your instructions, this is what I did.

Open Frescobaldi, edit, preferences, Lilypond preferences, versions  
to use. This box contained only the name “Lilypond-windows.exe.”  
Minimize.
Right click Lilypond short cut on desktop, properties, copy  
“target:” C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond- 
windows.exe. I verified this through manual tracking. Minimize
Maximize Frescobaldi, edit preferences, Lilypond preferences,  
highlight version, edit, paste target, click “set as default,”  
“apply,” and “OK.”

Paste my “code” into Frescobaldi, click Lilypond icon.
While my code did not compile, it did run!
Now I have to clean up all the errors that Lilypond found.
That is just fine by me. I learn by trial and error.

Thank you again for your kind attention to my plight. As a retired  
teacher I appreciate you patient and detailed instruction.


Mark Stephen Mrotek

From: Wim van Dommelen [mailto:m...@wimvd.nl]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:57 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cc: Lilypond User List
Subject: Re: error message

Hi Mark,

If running it as an administrator doesn't work, it might be the  
other warning is more vald. The message also says "check path", so  
that might be wrong. Running it as an administrator will "repair"  
permissions., but not paths. Your system probably just cannot find  
the right file. So: check the path!


In my version of Frescobaldi (on Linux!), the path settings are to  
be found in the menu's: "Settings / Configure Frescobaldi / Lilypond  
Preferences" which do show me a window indicating which Lilypond it  
will use. There is a "Configure" button for this. Check the path  
where to find the executable file very carefully, just one character  
(including caps, dots and spaces, etc.) makes an enormous  
difference. Search the file lilypond.exe on your system, open a  
terminal window and try: lilypond.exe --version to check if the file  
is really there where you expect it to be. (Substitute your filename  
and the complete path for "lilypond.exe". My advise: start with  
trying to avoid spaces and all special characters in the path.


If it doesn't work mail me a print-screen (offline) of the settings- 
dialog with details on the filename choosen.


Regards,
Wim.


On 10 Oct 2012, at 19:28 , Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:


After putting in code into Frescobaldi, I clicked the Lilypond icon.  
The following error message appeared:


Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.16.0 [Untitled]...
Could not start lilypond-windows.exe.
Please check path and permissions.

Two previous suggestions, which I followed, were to open as  
Administrator and to set Frescobaldi preferences to use Lilypond.


Again after entering code and clicking the error message appear.

Thank you for your kind attention.

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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Nick Payne 
On 12/10/12 07:35, Graham Percival wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 07:04:04AM +1100, Nick Payne wrote:
>> On 11/10/12 23:18, Eluze wrote:
>>> if you have good ideas how to
>>> design this page better and make it more informative you are welcome
>>> to send them as an enhancement request to the bug list!
>> With previous versions, the downloadable PDFs could be accessed directly
>> from the web page http://lilypond.org/manuals.html, but this is no
>> longer the case.
> I cannot recall the pdfs ever being on manuals.html, and a quick
> check of
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/web/manuals
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/manuals
> suggests that my memory is not flawed.  Are you thinking of the
> doc tarball at
> http://lilypond.org/all.html
> ?
>
> oh, maybe you're thinking of the development page?
> http://lilypond.org/development.html

Yes, it must be the development doc page I'm thinking of. I guess people
get used to the layout of that page during the releases of the
development versions, and then get taken aback when the release version
comes along and the layout is different. I'm also someone who downloads
the PDF manuals and uses them, and when 2.16 was released it took me a
while to figure out how to get to the PDF manuals (it's not at all
obvious from the page http://lilypond.org/manuals.html that you have to
click on the "details of Notation" or "details of Usage" links in order
to access them).

Nick
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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread wjm 

Greetings,
After several messages you wrote
"since the page is headed with /Manuals for LilyPond 2.16.0/ for me it's
clear that /docs/ are referenced."

The page doesn't make it clear that the pdf files are hidden in the 
"details if xxx" links.

Perhaps that could be made more obvious?
I hope this helps
Regards
Bill

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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Graham Percival 
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 07:04:04AM +1100, Nick Payne wrote:
> On 11/10/12 23:18, Eluze wrote:
> > if you have good ideas how to
> > design this page better and make it more informative you are welcome
> > to send them as an enhancement request to the bug list!
> 
> With previous versions, the downloadable PDFs could be accessed directly
> from the web page http://lilypond.org/manuals.html, but this is no
> longer the case.

I cannot recall the pdfs ever being on manuals.html, and a quick
check of
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/web/manuals
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/manuals
suggests that my memory is not flawed.  Are you thinking of the
doc tarball at
http://lilypond.org/all.html
?

oh, maybe you're thinking of the development page?
http://lilypond.org/development.html

- Graham

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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Nick Payne 
On 11/10/12 23:18, Eluze wrote:
> since the page is headed with /Manuals for LilyPond 2.16.0/ for me
> it's clear that /docs/ are referenced. if you have good ideas how to
> design this page better and make it more informative you are welcome
> to send them as an enhancement request to the bug list!

If you look back through the user list archives, this is not the first
time that users have had problems finding the downloadable PDFs of the
2.16 documentation. See
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-09/msg00012.html.
With previous versions, the downloadable PDFs could be accessed directly
from the web page http://lilypond.org/manuals.html, but this is no
longer the case.

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Re: parenthesize chord

2012-10-11 Thread Tim McNamara 
Here's a hack to parenthesize chords in \chordmode that was sent to me by a 
kind person here on the list.  It can't parenthesize a single chord but will do 
two or more.


#(define (left-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion 
context)
(markup #:line ("( " (ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion context

#(define (right-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion 
context)
(markup #:line ((ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion context) " )")))

LPC = { \set chordNameFunction = #left-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names }
RPC = { \set chordNameFunction = #right-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names }
NPC = { \unset chordNameFunction }

%%
% \LPC first-chord \NPC more chords \RPC last-chord \NPC
%%
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Re: How to get rehearsal mark closer to staff than metronome mark

2012-10-11 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org 

On 11 oct. 2012, at 21:54, Henning Plumeyer  wrote:

> How can I achive that the rehearsal mark is below the metronome mark
> "Allegro ma non troppo" (between the numbers for the FullBarRests)?
> 
> This is what I tried:
> 
> \version "2.16.0"
> {
>  \once \override MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1
>  \tempo "Allegro ma non troppo"
>  \set Score.skipBars = ##t
>  \once \override RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1
>  R1 * 2
>  \once \override RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1
>  \mark \default
>  R1 * 2
> }
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You need Score.MetronomeMark and Score.RehearsalMark .

Cheers,
MS

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How to get rehearsal mark closer to staff than metronome mark

2012-10-11 Thread Henning Plumeyer 

How can I achive that the rehearsal mark is below the metronome mark
"Allegro ma non troppo" (between the numbers for the FullBarRests)?

This is what I tried:

\version "2.16.0"
{
  \once \override MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1
  \tempo "Allegro ma non troppo"
  \set Score.skipBars = ##t
  \once \override RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1
  R1 * 2
  \once \override RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1
  \mark \default
  R1 * 2
}

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Re: parenthesize chord

2012-10-11 Thread David Nalesnik 
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:29 AM, TaoCG  wrote:
> Hello, can the chord parentheses engraver also do square brackets?

It could, but there would have to be some additions to the code.
Unfortunately, I don't have any time to do anything Lily-related till
next week!

-David

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Re: help with grace positioning

2012-10-11 Thread David Kastrup 
Thomas Morley  writes:

> I'd prefer to have a function, which could deal with `graceSettings´,
> tranfering one setting after the other in an override (using some
> mapping), but I failed. :(

It would appear that the code for "undo"
http://codereview.appspot.com/6588067/diff/8001/ly/music-functions-init.ly>
should be a good starting point as it converts overrides into reverts.
You just need to convert into overrides instead, filter appropriately,
and reverse the resulting list from fold-some-music.

Even simpler should be the use of the music-filter function.

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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Eluze 

> Am 11.10.2012 09:48, schrieb Tom Cloyd:
>> Am  schrieb Eluze:

>>> not sure what you mean by "download" - on this web-page all the manuals
>>> can be downloaded as pdf.
>>>
>>> there are also tools which allow to download a whole bunch of manuals
>>> specified in a list (e.g. Total Commander, Free Download Manager on
>>> Windows)
>>>
>>> then there is the link to "other material - all" (on the above page)
>>> where you can find the /Doc tarball for 2.16.0/
>>>
>>> Eluze
> Thanks for sticking with me on this. I have been to this page multiple
> times. The /download link for a single documentation file/ is simply NOT
> readily apparent - at least not to me, and I've been using Lilipond for
> years.
> 
> I finally see the problem: the link I want has this link text - " All 
> <
> http://www.lilypond.org/all.html
> >
> : previous stable versions and current as a compressed archive". As a
> programmer (amateur), and someone who has written documentation files for
> several of my own programs, I NEVER refer to a documentation file as a
> "stable version", nor have I ever seen anyone else do this. That term ONLY
> refers to code, which indeed may or may not be "stable". Documentation, on
> the other hand is /draft, revised, provisional, final,/ etc. It cannot be
> unstable - it's just text.
> 
> So, to me, that link simply cannot refer to documentation, and indeed
> looked seriously misplaced, as it's on a page about documentation. That is
> why I could not find the link which is indeed there.
> 
> Why not make this link plain, for Pete's sake: "_Documentation archive
> files for current and all previous versions_" would make it plain, and
> prevent the confusion I have been experiencing, in the future.
> 
> I have always vastly enjoyed the richness of Lilypond's documentation; I
> truly appreciate the love of the software which so much work represents.
> Not to make this download really obvious seems to me like a most
> unfortunate mistake. Previously, it was NOT difficult to find, as it was
> plainly labeled.
> 
> OK...I have my download. My sincere thanks to you for assisting me in
> finding the link...finally.

please always reply to the list…

since the page is headed with /Manuals for LilyPond 2.16.0/ for me it's
clear that /docs/ are referenced.

if you have good ideas how to design this page better and make it more
informative you are welcome to send them as an enhancement request to the
bug list!

Eluze



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Re: help with grace positioning

2012-10-11 Thread TaoCG 
Thomas Morley wrote
> 2012/10/10 TaoCG <

> tao_lilyponduser@

> >:
>> I'm trying to typeset the following measure:
>> sf282.png
>> ;
>>
>> And that's the closest I got:
>> attempt.png
>> ;
>>
>> \version "2.16.0"
>>
>> skipOnce =
>> {
>>   \once \override NoteColumn #'glissando-skip = ##t
>>   \once \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
>> }
>>
>> \relative c''
>> {
>>   #(define afterGraceFraction (cons 1 5000))
>>   \times 2/3 { f8~ f4\glissando } \tupletDown
>>   \times 4/5 { \skipOnce e16 \afterGrace e4_( { e32[ f e])\glissando } }
>> \tupletNeutral
>>   \times 4/5 { \skipOnce f16 f4~ } f4~
>> }
>>
>>
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> you could try the approach below.
> 
> I took the `graceSettings´ from /ly/engraver-init.ly and created some
> overrides with them, using these overrides in a temporary second
> voice.
> Because of the lower fontSize some additional tweaks were necessary.
> A music-function which minimises typing, while changing TupletBrackets
> 'minimal-length is added, too.
> 
> 
> 
> \version "2.16.0"
> 
> skipOnce =
> {
>   \once \override NoteColumn #'glissando-skip = ##t
>   \once \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
> }
> 
> % see `graceSettings´ in /ly/engraver-init.ly
> % TabNoteHead setting is omitted.
> graceStyleOn = {
> \override Stem #'direction = #UP
> \override Stem #'font-size = #-3
> \override Flag #'font-size = #-3
> \override NoteHead #'font-size = #-3
> \override Dots #'font-size = #-3
> \override Stem #'length-fraction = #0.8
> \override Stem #'no-stem-extend = ##t
> \override Beam #'beam-thickness = #0.384
> \override Beam #'length-fraction = #0.8
> \override Accidental #'font-size = #-4
> \override AccidentalCautionary #'font-size = #-4
> \override Slur #'direction = #DOWN
> \override Script #'font-size = #-3
> \override Fingering #'font-size = #-8
> \override StringNumber #'font-size = #-8
> }
> 
> graceStyleOff = {
> \revert Stem #'direction
> \revert Stem #'font-size
> \revert Flag #'font-size
> \revert NoteHead #'font-size
> \revert Dots #'font-size
> \revert Stem #'length-fraction
> \revert Stem #'no-stem-extend
> \revert Beam #'beam-thickness
> \revert Beam #'length-fraction
> \revert Accidental #'font-size
> \revert AccidentalCautionary #'font-size
> \revert Slur #'direction
> \revert Script #'font-size
> \revert Fingering #'font-size
> \revert StringNumber #'font-size
> }
> 
> tweakNh =
> #(define-music-function (parser location mus)(ly:music?)
> "Adjusting the NoteHead"
> #{
>  %% Construction-helpers:
> % \tweak #'layer #5
> % \tweak #'color #red
> \tweak #'X-offset #1.32
> \tweak #'stem-attachment #'(3.82 . 0.5)
> $mus
> #})
> 
> tupletLength =
> #(define-music-function (parser location ln)(number?)
> "Adjust TupletBracket's minimum-length"
> #{
> \override Score.TupletBracket #'springs-and-rods =
> #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
> \override Score.TupletBracket #'minimum-length = $ln
> #})
> 
> \score {
> \new Staff
> \new Voice \relative c'' {
>   \tupletLength #10
>   \tupletDown
>   \times 2/3 { f8~ f4\glissando }
>   \times 4/5 {
>   \skipOnce e16
>   <<
> { \voiceOne \graceStyleOn \tweakNh e32_([ f
> e])\glissando }
> \new Voice { \voiceTwo  e4 }
>>>
>   }
>   \oneVoice
>   \times 4/5 { \graceStyleOff \skipOnce  f16  f4~ }
>   f4 |
> }
> \layout {
>   \context {
>   \Voice
>   tupletFullLength = ##t
>   \override Flag #'stencil = #modern-straight-flag
>   }
> } 
> }
> 
> I'd prefer to have a function, which could deal with `graceSettings´,
> tranfering one setting after the other in an override (using some
> mapping), but I failed. :(
> 
> HTH,
>   Harm
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Wow, thanks!
Actually I had looked for something like graceSettings but obviously I
looked in the wrong places.
Thanks for all the work, much appreciated.

Regards,
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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Eluze 


Am 11.10.2012 09:48, schrieb Tom Cloyd:

On 10/11/2012 01:16 AM, Eluze wrote:


Am 11.10.2012 08:44, Tom Cloyd:
For some reason I cannot find a download link for the documentation 
manuals for 2.16. I much prefer to have a copy on my own machine, 
rather than having to use web access. Is there such a link?


I can only find links for much earlier versions, and even then only 
after using Google to find them.




you should find all manuals at http://www.lilypond.org/manuals.html

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And indeed I do - and did. However, what I said I was looking for was 
a _download_, not a webpage. I can make do with the latter, but in the 
past a single download PDF containing all documentation has been 
available. THAT is what I was/am hoping to find. Any ideas about where 
THAT might be?


Thanks,

t.

not sure what you mean by "download" - on this web-page all the manuals 
can be downloaded as pdf.


there are also tools which allow to download a whole bunch of manuals 
specified in a list (e.g. Total Commander, Free Download Manager on Windows)


then there is the link to "other material - all" (on the above page) 
where you can find the /Doc tarball for 2.16.0/


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Re: error message

2012-10-11 Thread Wim van Dommelen 

Hi Mark,

If running it as an administrator doesn't work, it might be the other  
warning is more vald. The message also says "check path", so that  
might be wrong. Running it as an administrator will "repair"  
permissions., but not paths. Your system probably just cannot find the  
right file. So: check the path!


In my version of Frescobaldi (on Linux!), the path settings are to be  
found in the menu's: "Settings / Configure Frescobaldi / Lilypond  
Preferences" which do show me a window indicating which Lilypond it  
will use. There is a "Configure" button for this. Check the path where  
to find the executable file very carefully, just one character  
(including caps, dots and spaces, etc.) makes an enormous difference.  
Search the file lilypond.exe on your system, open a terminal window  
and try: lilypond.exe --version to check if the file is really there  
where you expect it to be. (Substitute your filename and the complete  
path for "lilypond.exe". My advise: start with trying to avoid spaces  
and all special characters in the path.


If it doesn't work mail me a print-screen (offline) of the settings- 
dialog with details on the filename choosen.


Regards,
Wim.


On 10 Oct 2012, at 19:28 , Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:

After putting in code into Frescobaldi, I clicked the Lilypond icon.  
The following error message appeared:


Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.16.0 [Untitled]...
Could not start lilypond-windows.exe.
Please check path and permissions.

Two previous suggestions, which I followed, were to open as  
Administrator and to set Frescobaldi preferences to use Lilypond.


Again after entering code and clicking the error message appear.

Thank you for your kind attention.

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Re: Rehearsal Marks

2012-10-11 Thread Federico Bruni 
> where the reharsal marks are black on white?

obviously I meant white on black
thanks Harm for your "scheme magic" :)

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Re: Saving Input File

2012-10-11 Thread Daniel E. Moctezuma 
I agree with Janek.
Marc, I would suggest you to take a look to Frescobaldi.
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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Phil Holmes 
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Cloyd" 

To: "Lilypond" 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:44 AM
Subject: documentation download?


For some reason I cannot find a download link for the documentation 
manuals for 2.16. I much prefer to have a copy on my own machine, rather 
than having to use web access. Is there such a link?


I can only find links for much earlier versions, and even then only 
after using Google to find them.


Tom
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Tom Cloyd / t...@tomcloyd.com / (435) 272-3332



Go to the home page: http://lilypond.org/.  Click on Manuals 2.16.0.

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Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Eluze 


Am 11.10.2012 08:44, Tom Cloyd:
For some reason I cannot find a download link for the documentation 
manuals for 2.16. I much prefer to have a copy on my own machine, 
rather than having to use web access. Is there such a link?


I can only find links for much earlier versions, and even then only 
after using Google to find them.




you should find all manuals at http://www.lilypond.org/manuals.html

Eluze

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