Re: feature request: abs-fontsize available for all text grobs
Hi David, you gave at least two essential clues/hints and the result wouldn't be there now without them - so I would not call it a wrong direction. Cheers, Jan-Peter Am 29.07.2013 um 17:14 schrieb David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi Jan-Peter and David, From what I can tell, this is a complete and wonderfully elegant solution to my request — thank you. I will be sending funds to both of you soon. Before you do any such step, you'd better check that you are not sending funds the wrong way. While I have proposed a solution I consider more elegant as a response to Jan-Peter posting actually working code, I have only very roughly sketched that solution without bothering to turn it into working code. Without the ocular proof in the form of running code, I think I can do better does not really seem to warrant a prize. All the best -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: optional transposition triggered by an external file?
Am 30.07.2013 02:30, schrieb David Rogers:
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:
[...]
I need a way to define an optional variable that controls (if defined)
the transposition so I can say, for example:
\begin{appendix}
\chapter{For Bb instruments}
\begin{lilypond}
#(define transposeTo d)
\include{A.ly}
\end{lilypond}
\begin{lilypond}
#(define transposeTo d)
\include{B.ly}
\end{lilypond}
...
\end{appendix}
I've never tried this. Is it even possible to define things in the latex
file that are then parsed by Lilypond? If it is possible, perhaps adding
a special line inside each of A.ly, B.ly, and C.ly, which contains
\transpose C \transposeTo .
Yes, that's the plan.
That looks to me [if it was going to work at
all] as if your .ly files would then refuse to work if you ever forgot
to define \transposeTo in your latex file - but maybe it's worth it.
That's exactly what I want to avoid. My idea boils down to allow for
something like
transposeTo = transposeTo OR c
which is Lua-like. Is something similar possible in scheme?
Marc
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Re: optional transposition triggered by an external file?
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:
\begin{appendix}
\chapter{For Bb instruments}
\begin{lilypond}
#(define transposeTo d)
\include{A.ly}
\end{lilypond}
Rather \include A.ly
That's exactly what I want to avoid. My idea boils down to allow for
something like
transposeTo = transposeTo OR c
which is Lua-like. Is something similar possible in scheme?
Well, Scheme does not autodeclare variables, so it's more complex:
#(define transposeTo (if (defined? 'transposeTo) transposeTo #{ c #}))
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Re: optional transposition triggered by an external file?
Am 30.07.2013 09:56, schrieb David Kastrup:
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:
\begin{appendix}
\chapter{For Bb instruments}
\begin{lilypond}
#(define transposeTo d)
\include{A.ly}
\end{lilypond}
Rather \include A.ly
Of course, silly me.
That's exactly what I want to avoid. My idea boils down to allow for
something like
transposeTo = transposeTo OR c
which is Lua-like. Is something similar possible in scheme?
Well, Scheme does not autodeclare variables, so it's more complex:
#(define transposeTo (if (defined? 'transposeTo) transposeTo #{ c #}))
'defined?' is exactly what I needed – thanks a lot!
Marc
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Re: Moving slur after \hideNotes
Hi John,
you may be interested in reading this:
http://lilypondblog.org/2013/07/voice-contexts-in-temporary-polyphonic-sections/
Have fun
Urs
Am 08.07.2013 10:07, schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 08.07.2013 01:32, schrieb John Kliewe:
This looks almost right. It's from Chopin Nocturne Op9 no 3 :
\version 2.16.0
\relative c'
{ \clef treble
\time 6/8
\key b \major
ais'4 gis8 {\hideNotes gis'4.~\\(
gis16 fis eis dis cisis dis\! e eis\) gisis,\( ais \times 2/3
%%\override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f
{\unHideNotes b16\accent[ s ais]}
\hideNotes \stemDown s4. fis4\) fis16 eis} \\ {gis'4.
gis16 fis eis dis cisis dis e eis gisis, ais \times 2/3 {b16 eis, ais}
\unHideNotes \stemUp gis4.\accent fis4}
}
The slur starting on the g# is much too high. I can see why this is
by un-hiding the upper voice notes. But is there a way to bring that
slur line down?
In general: As you have already noticed \hideNotes actually makes the
notes white, so they aren't visible but fully take part in the layout
process. In cases similar to yours you would have to make the NoteHead
transparent and
set the stencil of any other relevant objects to ##f which means the
corresponding object isn't printed at all.
I wrote a shorthand for hiding a helper voice used for cross voice ties:
hideVoiceForTie = {
\once \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
\once \override Stem #'stencil = ##f
\once \override Dots #'stencil = ##f
\once \override Beam #'stencil = ##f
\once \override Flag #'stencil = ##f
\once \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
}
which can be used for that purpose. The last command suppresses the
warning you can get.
I also wonder if my approach is correct at all.
Actually I don't think so.
Does it make sense to treat those two bar-up sixteenth notes as a
separate voice?
That's correct, you need a temporary polyphonic construct. But you
shouldn't duplicate the whole phrase, there is no reason for that
(besides, that's what causes your other problem in the first place).
Just write the phrase as one and only enter polyphonic mode for the
triplet
Also, I don't want to see the 3 both over and under the triplet.
But look at what happens if I use the \override that appears in the
comment. It removes the number 3 but also miscalculates the notes
within the triplet.
This is because you wrote the override _inside_ the \times { }. Place
it before \times and it's alright.
\version 2.16.0
\relative c'{
\clef treble
\time 6/8
\key b \major
ais'4 gis8 gis'4.~\\( |
gis16 fis eis dis cisis dis\! e eis\) gisis,\( ais
{
\once \override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f
\times 2/3 {
b16\accent[ s ais]
}
}
\\
{
\times 2/3 {
{
b16 eis, ais
}
}
}
gis4. fis4\) fis16 eis
}
Will give you what you need. Of course you still have to shape the
phrasing slur quite strongly. Be sure to look up \shape for that.
HTH
Urs
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Re: optional transposition triggered by an external file?
On 30 Jul 2013, at 08:46 , Marc Hohl wrote:
transposeTo = transposeTo OR c
In the past I've used a very simple construct:
notes = { ... }
music = {
\tag Bassoon \notes
\tag BCl \transpose bes, c' { \notes }
}
instrument = Bassoon % could be Bassoon or BCl (bassclarinet) in
my case
\score
\keepWithTag \instrument \music
\layout {}
}
It is sort of hard-coded, BUT I could vary the instrument by creating
a small file in which I stated this instrument and just included that
file again in the Lilypond framework-file. With an external Makefile I
steered what should be done by generating (or copying) this include-
file and then running the lilypond command on the framework.
Regards,
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Python C API version mismatch for module midi
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Anyone using a tablet for lily?
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Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. IM: da...@vex.net, VoIP: sip:da...@druid.net ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
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Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
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Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:21 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. I don't know about the original poster, but my interest in being able to run LP on my tablet is on-the-go composition. What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. I don't want all the bells and whistles, but just the ability to quickly jot down things that come to mind while I'm away from my desktop and not have to reinput them when I get home. So basic staff/voice/lyrics stuff, since that's just going to be dropped into my existing template/stylesheet when I get home. There are some point-and-click editors for Android (which is what I use), but I don't know of any that interact with LP (note that it would not need to *run* LP, just output source). So basically a stripped-down version of MuseScore or Denemo that works on Android. Cheers, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:40:26 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Because then you can deal with a singer complaining that's just too high, can I get this a third lower? on the fly. Ah. You have one of *those* singers. Singers who keep dropping keys is the main reason I switched to a five-string bass. So, to your original question, I guess you need to check for something running Linux. I suppose Windows would work but I wouldn't trust it to be 100% compatible with a desktop system. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. IM: da...@vex.net, VoIP: sip:da...@druid.net ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: optional transposition triggered by an external file?
Am 30.07.2013 16:30, schrieb Wim van Dommelen:
On 30 Jul 2013, at 08:46 , Marc Hohl wrote:
transposeTo = transposeTo OR c
In the past I've used a very simple construct:
notes = { ... }
music = {
\tag Bassoon \notes
\tag BCl \transpose bes, c' { \notes }
}
instrument = Bassoon% could be Bassoon or BCl
(bassclarinet) in my case
\score
\keepWithTag \instrument \music
\layout {}
}
It is sort of hard-coded, BUT I could vary the instrument by creating a
small file in which I stated this instrument and just included that file
again in the Lilypond framework-file. With an external Makefile I
steered what should be done by generating (or copying) this include-file
and then running the lilypond command on the framework.
Thanks for sharing – the (only) drawback is that I have to
define \instrument in *any* case. David's solution has the advantage
of having a completely standalone compilable LilyPond file plus the
option to change the transposition by simply including another tiny
file.
Marc
Regards,
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LilyPond meeting in Waltrop, Germany, 2013-08-16 to 2013-08-20
Well, after several announcements, I now have about four participants for this year's meeting secured. While that's about the amount who bothered registering timely last year, it means that I am not able to plan suitably ahead. The consequences are that I can't really put forward an agenda, and I can't invite people who might be interesting to the LilyPond community, like Uwe Steger (see URL:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMBJowDdFq4 for an example of computer-based typesetting use with a likely interesting workflow) or an acquaintance who has dabbled with EU proposals, or the accordion ensemble I am playing in and so forth and so on. It's also not clear whether there is any sense in reserving an LCD projector like last year at the video store. Not all those opportunities are definitely over, so get a grip and announce your interest as soon as possible. With regard to celebrities, I do have a few registrations, like from Janek, wrangler of slurs and lyrics, or Jan, one of the primordial LilyPond developers and certainly _the_ authority regarding GUB. He'll be bringing samples of the Liedboek URL:http://www.liedboek.nl, probably the largest project so far tackled using LilyPond. Han-Wen, the other of the initial LilyPond team, will unfortunately have a concert on Sunday, so he'll be able to come Monday earliest which is just when Jan will have left. Talk about bad luck. Harm, the tireless wrangler of power-user solutions on LilyPond's user list (also known as Thomas Morley) is going to be there, so there will be quite a bit of opportunity of discussing changes and extensions in LilyPond that could reel more typesetting problems into the range of mere mortals. A few days ago, Jan Rosseel from the Scora project URL:http://www.scora.net which happens to use LilyPond as its typesetting engine announced his interest to join the meeting and would like to explain how LilyPond is used in Scora and what changes might simplify life for them. The project works towards the premiere of a symphonic concert in December (rehearsals starting in September) with a program including the 5th Symphony by Sibelius(!). To my chagrin, releasing 2.18 is still on the agenda, and depending on where we'll be with regard to it, we might have discussions about what we did right and wrong and what we might have to change. We might also try some team coding sessions to get the few remaining critical bugs under control so that we'll have a fixed perspective for getting 2.18 released and maybe at least start the stable branch. Other topics: Guilev2 (seriously) Markup redesign Page breaker MusicXML discussions Discussions about EU project feasibility (I tried getting something organized a few months ago, but it basically died from lack of immediate recognizable interest from commercial entities). Reports about the last meeting can be found at URL:http://news.lilynet.net/?The-LilyPond-Report-28. Information about travel and place (please don't get confused by last year's dates!) is still at URL:http://news.lilynet.net/?LilyPond-meeting-in-Waltrop, in a nutshell: Im Knäppen 63 in 45731 Waltrop, next useful bus station Waltrop Elmenhorst, next useful subway Brambauer Verkehrshof, next large train station Dortmund Hbf, next large airport Düsseldorf (there is some Ryanair airport called Düsseldorf Weeze which is actually quite far from Düsseldorf). Of course, the Spotted Flycatchers are nesting in different places, last year's foal Socke is by now a yearling, OpenStreetMap still has no clue about our address (but Google Maps does, and Bing Maps too, but the final yards of the approach have to be from the Southeast since the bridge to the Northwest has fallen prey to fire decades ago without telling Bing). The date this time around will be August 2013, Friday 16th to Tuesday 20th, with the possibility to arrive Thursday 15th late in the day for people who'd otherwise miss stuff early Friday. The proposed date coincides with the Dattelner Kanalfest URL:http://www.kanalfest.de/ which is the big competition (next town) of the Waltroper Parkfest we had running parallel to the conference last year. It still provides a reasonably close festival and entertainment for potentially not-just-LilyPond interested attendants or accompaniment, though with more focus on music and less on small arts like jugglers and stuff. But since it is next town, it will not suck dry external accommodation in Waltrop like the Parkfest did last year. So it should be easier for people preferring to stay at some hotel or similar to find something not too far away. Camping on the ground and sleep-ins are of course possible like last year and I expect most participants to make use of that. As mentioned above, most travellers will aim for Dortmund (through bus or train) though some international travellers will likely have Düsseldorf as their first destination in Germany. Hope to _really_ hear from you soon. All the best! -- David Kastrup
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net writes: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:40:26 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Because then you can deal with a singer complaining that's just too high, can I get this a third lower? on the fly. Ah. You have one of *those* singers. Actually, I tend to sing at pitch. It's the listeners that say that's just too high, can I get this a third lower? then. In my active times, I've had to sing bass, tenor and alto in a single choir concert (moving between pieces was one heck of a complex routine to remember). But of course one has to keep up a good practice regime to do that gracefully. So, to your original question, I guess you need to check for something running Linux. I suppose Windows would work but I wouldn't trust it to be 100% compatible with a desktop system. I'd guess that Android should be possible. But it would likely be quite a challenge to teach that to GUB. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
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RE: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
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Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Eduardo Silva eduardo.su...@hotmail.comwrote: What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. Hi, I think there are some editors for Android/Ipad that will at least output to ABC or MusicXML, you could try exporting it from there, no? Probably could. The issue I've had with point-and-click editors in general is that they add a lot more information than I necessarily want. I compose almost exclusively for SATB voices. I have a template that--in coordination with editing some of the internal Scheme files--allows me to input each voice as a variable and then does the automatic part combining. I also put bar and break information in a separate voice, so the only thing I want in the LP output are bare music essentials of notes, slurs and ties (and maybe a couple of other things that escape me at the moment). I've tried to use both MuseScore and Denemo to speed up the compositional work and output a file I can use in my template, but I've found that I spend more time stripping their output of all the extra information that the template doesn't need than I do if I just used my usual type and test workflow. There may be a setting for them not to output this information. If there is, I don't know about it. Cheers, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
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Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 13:56 -0400, Carl Peterson wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Eduardo Silva eduardo.su...@hotmail.com wrote: What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. Hi, I think there are some editors for Android/Ipad that will at least output to ABC or MusicXML, you could try exporting it from there, no? Probably could. The issue I've had with point-and-click editors in general is that they add a lot more information than I necessarily want. I compose almost exclusively for SATB voices. I have a template that--in coordination with editing some of the internal Scheme files--allows me to input each voice as a variable and then does the automatic part combining. I also put bar and break information in a separate voice, so the only thing I want in the LP output are bare music essentials of notes, slurs and ties (and maybe a couple of other things that escape me at the moment). I've tried to use both MuseScore and Denemo to speed up the compositional work and output a file I can use in my template, but I've found that I spend more time stripping their output of all the extra information that the template doesn't need than I do if I just used my usual type and test workflow. There may be a setting for them not to output this information. If there is, I don't know about it. You could write a scheme script for Denemo that would do that. Each note in Denemo has the relevant LilyPond attached to it, so you could just step through the staff collecting it up and then output it to a file. Richard Cheers, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: aleatoric box / frameEngraver
Hi, On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Karol, On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Karol Majewski karo...@wp.pl wrote: OK, so have repeat signs in \markup \Score. Now I need the extender. How can I modify David's function to start the extender without frame? For example: c'4 \extenderStart s4*2 \extenderStop Again, I think the best course of action here is not to omit the frame; rather, you would replace the frame with repeat-bar stencils. The problem that I'm facing is that I can't find a convenient function in the barline interface to produce a barline stencil. It's possible to quote massive portions of scm\bar-line.scm in the .ly file and then make some adaptations to the print function for Frame and the width function for FrameStub (see the latest version of the file at http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg83197/frameEngraver25.ly). That works, but it's just too awful. The attached file will let you do the aleatoric notation with repeat barlines without resorting to wholesale copying (or adding things to the end of scm\bar-line.scm). The barlines have been recreated. They are scaleable. There are now two options available with the same file: box notation, or repeat-barline notation. Boxes are the default. You can select barlines like so: \override Frame.repeat-barlines = ##t Both can be used in the same file, successively or simultaneously in different staves. Because it's so long, I've put the engraver in a file to be included. HTH, David frameEngraver-bars-and-boxes.ily Description: Binary data frameEngraver-boxes-and-repeats-example.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On 31/07/13 01:21, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. I'm more interested in getting something that can replace paper PDF scores. Sony have announced, but not yet released, a 13.3 inch e-reader that can display A4 PDF at life size, and also allows annotations with a stylus. Depending on whether the price is reasonable, I intend to have a look at one when it becomes reality to see if it's viable as a replacement for paper on a music stand, particularly if it could be combined with a foot pedal for page turns. There's a video of it being demoed here on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZSGZkEEVfQ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
PDF portfolio of 2.17.23 documentation
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Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 07:14 +1000, Nick Payne wrote: On 31/07/13 01:21, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. I'm more interested in getting something that can replace paper PDF scores. Sony have announced, but not yet released, a 13.3 inch e-reader that can display A4 PDF at life size, and also allows annotations with a stylus. Depending on whether the price is reasonable, I intend to have a look at one when it becomes reality to see if it's viable as a replacement for paper on a music stand, particularly if it could be combined with a foot pedal for page turns. Ideally you want two pedal presses per page turn - one to turn the top of the page (while you are playing from the bottom of the page) and the other to complete the page turn once you have started on the top of the new page. Denemo does this in its page mode display (but this is not a the real typeset music, just the input for checking). Richard There's a video of it being demoed here on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZSGZkEEVfQ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
Richard: This may be what you want (and I use): Sahara Slate PC i500 ( Windows 7 Professional ) from Tablet Kiosk (www.TabletKiosk.com). I has a 6.5 x 10.5 screen. It can display full page PDF's generated by Lilypond using the software Music Reader (www.MusicReader.net). The software allows viewing one page, two page, or half page. The screen can be rotated (landscape or portrait). With the stylus comments can be written, and erased, from the PDF. The slate also has a disappearing keyboard. Since I use the slate at the piano I use a USB foot pedal to turn pages. This can be purchased from Music Reader. Pages can be turned using the stylus. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Richard Shann Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:28 PM To: Nick Payne Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily? On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 07:14 +1000, Nick Payne wrote: On 31/07/13 01:21, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. I'm more interested in getting something that can replace paper PDF scores. Sony have announced, but not yet released, a 13.3 inch e-reader that can display A4 PDF at life size, and also allows annotations with a stylus. Depending on whether the price is reasonable, I intend to have a look at one when it becomes reality to see if it's viable as a replacement for paper on a music stand, particularly if it could be combined with a foot pedal for page turns. Ideally you want two pedal presses per page turn - one to turn the top of the page (while you are playing from the bottom of the page) and the other to complete the page turn once you have started on the top of the new page. Denemo does this in its page mode display (but this is not a the real typeset music, just the input for checking). Richard There's a video of it being demoed here on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZSGZkEEVfQ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
conditional \when-property
Hello all,
This \when-property function (whence I found it, I can't remember) clearly
doesn't work as expected:
\version 2.17
#(define-markup-command (when-property layout props symbol markp) (symbol?
markup?)
(if (chain-assoc-get symbol props)
(interpret-markup layout props markp)
(ly:make-stencil '() '(1 . -1) '(1 . -1
\paper {
scoreTitleMarkup = \markup \column {
\when-property #'header:foo { \fromproperty #'header:foo }
\when-property #'header:bar { \fromproperty #'header:bar }
\when-property #'header:foo { \fromproperty #'header:foo }
\when-property #'header:bar { \fromproperty #'header:bar }
\when-property #'header:foo { \fromproperty #'header:foo }
\when-property #'header:bar { \fromproperty #'header:bar }
\when-property #'header:foo { \fromproperty #'header:foo }
\when-property #'header:bar { \fromproperty #'header:bar }
\fromproperty #'header:title
}
}
\header {
title = TEST
}
\score {
\relative c' { c1 }
}
How can it be made truly conditional (so that the titling line/item takes up no
vertical space if the property is null)?
Thanks,
Kieren.
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Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
Hi Richard, I have many friends (professional performing musicians) who use their iPad to play from; I believe they all use an AirTurn to trigger turns with a wireless pedal. Looking forward to hearing what you end up with, and how it works for you — I will be looking into a tablet very soon myself. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
I have been browsing the Internet for ePaper solutions, and have only reached potential products so far. The Brussels Philharmonic quit using paper less than a year ago. I'm still unsure what device to get for replacing my pile of music scores. Best regards, Olivier On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Richard, I have many friends (professional performing musicians) who use their iPad to play from; I believe they all use an AirTurn to trigger turns with a wireless pedal. Looking forward to hearing what you end up with, and how it works for you — I will be looking into a tablet very soon myself. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: conditional \when-property
Hi all,
Found the correct solution (I think):
#(define-markup-command (when-property layout props symbol markp) (symbol?
markup?)
(if (chain-assoc-get symbol props)
(interpret-markup layout props markp)
(ly:make-stencil '() empty-interval empty-interval)))
At least that *seems* to do the right thing — if I've set myself up for
disaster, I'd appreciate being corrected. =)
Thanks,
Kieren.
On 2013-Jul-30, at 19:25, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca
wrote:
Hello all,
This \when-property function (whence I found it, I can't remember) clearly
doesn't work as expected:
\version 2.17
#(define-markup-command (when-property layout props symbol markp) (symbol?
markup?)
(if (chain-assoc-get symbol props)
(interpret-markup layout props markp)
(ly:make-stencil '() '(1 . -1) '(1 . -1
\paper {
scoreTitleMarkup = \markup \column {
\when-property #'header:foo { \fromproperty #'header:foo }
\when-property #'header:bar { \fromproperty #'header:bar }
\when-property #'header:foo { \fromproperty #'header:foo }
\when-property #'header:bar { \fromproperty #'header:bar }
\when-property #'header:foo { \fromproperty #'header:foo }
\when-property #'header:bar { \fromproperty #'header:bar }
\when-property #'header:foo { \fromproperty #'header:foo }
\when-property #'header:bar { \fromproperty #'header:bar }
\fromproperty #'header:title
}
}
\header {
title = TEST
}
\score {
\relative c' { c1 }
}
How can it be made truly conditional (so that the titling line/item takes up
no vertical space if the property is null)?
Thanks,
Kieren.
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Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On 31 July 2013 01:31, flup2 phili...@philmassart.net wrote: An alternative, requiring an internet connection, could be to use http://lilybin.com/ http://lilybin.com/ but for now, the separation line between editor and preview is difficult to move using a tablet. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Anyone-using-a-tablet-for-lily-tp148565p148569.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user For small tweaks to large scores, I can imagine a tablet sending a .ly file to the high-powered desktop back at home, and the desktop sending back a PDF in a fraction of the time it would take the tablet to compile the file on a tablet. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: tablet
So I asked the question but instead of an answer you all got way off track. Is the answer (or so it seems) no No one has a tablet that they use Lily on or No has tried and doesn't really know. Drives me mad when the questions don't really get answered. Could we please stick to the point? Thanks Jay ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tablet
Jay, The simple answer is; No, LilyPond will not run on a tablet. There are, however, workarounds. One is the method Guy Stalnaker described using Textastic for editing and DropBox as a repository. The advantage to that method is that you don't need a connection the whole time. There was another DropBox method mentioned a while back. You set up DropBox on your regular home machine and sync your tablet to the same DropBox account. Then you get into your home machine via SSH and remotely edit files and run LilyPond. Once the PDF has compiled it will sync up on the tablet. This requires a net connection the whole time, of course. -David - Original Message - From: i...@soundand.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:38:05 AM Subject: RE: tablet So I asked the question but instead of an answer you all got way off track. Is the answer (or so it seems) no No one has a tablet that they use Lily on or No has tried and doesn't really know. Drives me mad when the questions don't really get answered. Could we please stick to the point? Thanks Jay ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tablet
Thank you whew Jay On 2013-07-30 20:52, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: Jay, The simple answer is; No, LilyPond will not run on a tablet. There are, however, workarounds. One is the method Guy Stalnaker described using Textastic for editing and DropBox as a repository. The advantage to that method is that you don't need a connection the whole time. There was another DropBox method mentioned a while back. You set up DropBox on your regular home machine and sync your tablet to the same DropBox account. Then you get into your home machine via SSH and remotely edit files and run LilyPond. Once the PDF has compiled it will sync up on the tablet. This requires a net connection the whole time, of course. -David - Original Message - From: i...@soundand.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:38:05 AM Subject: RE: tablet So I asked the question but instead of an answer you all got way off track. Is the answer (or so it seems) no No one has a tablet that they use Lily on or No has tried and doesn't really know. Drives me mad when the questions don't really get answered. Could we please stick to the point? Thanks Jay ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Thanks for reading hope to hear from you soon. Jay ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tablet
whew Really? Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
