Re: ChordNames in Staff context

[Keith OHara]

Robert Schmaus  web.de> writes:

> The compiling resulted in hundreds of errors (after applying 
> convert-ly). It took some time to figure out, that the problem was the 
> statement
> 
> \context {
>  \Staff
>  \accepts "ChordNames"
> }
> 
> in the score block. A google search turned up this conversation from 
> March 2013 which took place on the lilypond-bugs list:
> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/programming-error-while-inserting-
quot-ChordNames-quot-in-quot-Staff-quot-td143559.html
> 

> May I ask what the reasons were for 
> removing that technique?

Probably, no-one watching the changes knew that this was a technique.

>From the email you linked, I can see the potential for a problem. The
Axis_group_engraver in ChordNames does the job of arranging all the
within the context into rows on the page. But if ChordNames is inside
a Staff, the Staff also has an Axis_group_engraver also trying to do
the same job, also collecting the same chord names into rows.

You can tell any particular instance of ChordNames to stop doing 
Axis_group_engraving, so that it stops fighting with the Staff.
Or, you can tell a particular instance of Voice (which fits nicely
in the Staff) to start doing Chord_name_engraving.  I do not know
which will work best for lead sheets.

<<
  \new ChordNames \chordmode { s1*3 ges4 bes1:m7 }
  \new Staff \with {\accepts ChordNames } <<
\new ChordNames \with {
  \override ChordName #'Y-offset = #-1
  \remove Axis_group_engraver
} { \chordmode { 
  \repeat percent 4 ces4 f2:m7.3-.5- bes:m7 es:m7 aes:m7
  s1*2 } }
\new Voice {
  \key es\minor s1*3 
  \transpose c c' {bes,4 des ges bes \chordmode { bes,1:m7 } } } >> >>

<<
  \new ChordNames \chordmode { s1*3 ges4 bes1:m7 }
  \new Staff <<
\new Voice \with {
  \consists Chord_name_engraver
  \override ChordName #'Y-offset = #-1
  \remove Note_heads_engraver 
} { \chordmode { 
  \repeat percent 4 ces4 f2:m7.3-.5- bes:m7 es:m7 aes:m7
  s1*2 } }
\new Voice {
  \key es\minor s1*3 
  \transpose c c' {bes,4 des ges bes \chordmode { bes,1:m7 } } } >> >>


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Re: Converting MIDI to .ly?

[SoundsFromSound]

Hi Neoking,

Here is some useful info on invoking midi2ly --> 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/usage/invoking-midi2ly

Also, what version of LilyPond are you using? Welcome to the community! :)

Ben



neoking wrote
> Hi all,
> 
> I just started using lilypond and I tried looking around for this on the
> internet, but I couldnt find an answer to this anywhere. I want to convert
> a simple midifile to a .ly-file in 4/4 tempo in 2 voices. The only thing I
> came across is that I have to use midi2ly, but when I try to search
> further about how to use that, Im stuck. Can anyone help me out with this,
> it would mean a bunch to me.
> 
> Greets Neoking





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Re: Lyrics to hymn - new user

[Carl Peterson]

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Garrett McGilvray <
garrett.mcgilv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Carl,
>
> I am so very grateful for your help. I have taken some time to study your
> answer and do some practicing. I'm sorry to say that I'm still stuck. Where
> I am getting confused is how to make a partial line (such as a note here or
> there in the Voice "altoVerse") come in and out next to a continuous
> running line (as the mixed soprano/alto Voice "sopVerse"). Here's what I
> tried that I thought made sense, although it also seemed like doing it the
> hard way. In any case, it did not work:
>
> Then I tried to plug in my variable to a score block after your model, but
> I didn't have any luck. I figure somehow I'm not using the variable right.
> Do you have a hymn you have done that you wouldn't mind sending the file so
> I could study it? Or perhaps the hacked version is different so it wouldn't
> work on my end?
>

The hacked version allows me to define the individual part lines and then
throw then together with an automatic part combiner and some hidden voices
to allow for associating the lyrics voices. The only thing the hacked
version does is make sure the part combining is done "correctly," as is
typically seen in _Praise for the Lord_ and a few other related hymnals.

To your specific issue, what you would do is use skips to get the notes
where they need to be. For instance, if you were to define variables
outside the score block for the parts,

sopVerse = { 4   \stemUp d' c'2 \stemNeutral  }
altoVerse = { \stemDown s2. c'4 c'2 s2 }

This would have three beats chorded, then two sets of notes separated, then
the last stack chorded.


>
> > P.S.: nice scan from Wiegand's _Praise for the Lord_
>
> Good catch! So was that a Google search or are you familiar with that
> hymnal? I was really excited that you recognized it. I think it's my
> favorite of the current hymnals.
>

It's in my collection, along with Howard's _Songs of Faith and Praise_
(which I'm not a huge fan of) and a few other current "Church of Christ"
hymnals. That it used shaped notes caught my attention. From there, the
lyric font was a dead giveaway. I agree that PFTL is a quality collection.
I've only used it in worship a couple of times while visiting other
congregations.

>
> Thanks again for your kind help.
>

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Re: ugly bar line when changing line-count

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Eluze, thank you for all your replies and for adding the request, I really
appreciate it.

Take care,
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Re: Colored note heads with black outline

[Paul Morris]

Paul Morris wrote
> I realized it needs to be improved so that it will also handle \breve and
> \longa note durations correctly.  I'll include some examples of using the
> "(x11-color 'orange)" style colors to help make it more obvious that
> that's an option.

Ok, I added support for breve notes, and some "x11-color" examples.  The
latest code is in this snippet:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=890

(Of course you have to use LilyPond 2.17 to see the colors, since the LSR is
still running 2.14.)

Since longa notes are so rare and would require extra work to deal with
their up/down direction, I decided not to bother with them.  Apologies to
all the composers out there who love to use colored longa notes in your
compositions.  You are just out of luck...  

Cheers,
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Re: ugly bar line when changing line-count

[Eluze]

I've just added this request to the tracker:
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3609&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Stars%20Owner%20Patch%20Needs%20Summary

thanks for your active and engaged participation!

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Re: NR 1.7.1: can't understand a sentence about scaling font size

[Werner LEMBERG]

> With the modern scalable fonts much of this size-adjusting has been
> incorporated in hints and other techniques,

I wished it were so, but alas, this is not true.  Hinting is only
useful to adapt glyphs to a given output device.  It does *not*
provide any optical scaling.


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Re: laying out plainsong chant

[Noeck]

Sorry, I don't know. Could someone else please help?
How do I override the glyph used for rests? The rest has no glyph property.
There could be smarter ways e.g. using beams or other objects.
I still think there should be something like a\rest but with the longer
bars you need.

Cheers,
Joram

Am 13.10.2013 07:16, schrieb Gabe Moothart:
> Joram,
> Thanks. I noticed that in the feta font there are different rest glyphs:
> (http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/the-feta-font#rest-glyphs)
>  
> 
> And I guess lilypond is automatically choosing one for the even staff
> lines (rests.1), and the other for odd lines (rests.1o). Is it maybe
> possible to override the glyph the same way you overrode the other
> properties?
> 
> TIA,
> Gabe
> 

-- 
> The optimal function could be used in this way:
>   a\longbar instead of \longbar -2
> But I don't know how to do that.
> 
> Cheers,
> Joram
> 
> 
> \version "2.17.26"
> 
> 
> longbar = #(define-music-function (parser location pos) (number?)
>   #{
>   \override Rest #'font-size = #4
>   \override Rest #'staff-position = #pos
>   r2*1/4
>   \once \override Rest #'extra-offset = #'(-1.3 . 0)
>   r2*1/4
>   \revert Rest #'font-size
>   \revert Rest #'staff-position
>   #})
> 
> 
> %usage (example)
> {
>   \cadenzaOn
>   r4 \longbar -2 \longbar 2 \longbar 1 r4
> }

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Re: Lyrics to hymn - new user

[Federico Bruni]

2013/10/13 Garrett McGilvray 

> PS. For anyone: is it proper etiquette to reply to all or just the person
> who responded?
>

reply to all is the right thing (unless you want to really send a private
message)
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Re: Frescobaldi and pdf

[Urs Liska]

Am 13.10.2013 20:40, schrieb Mario Moles:

In data dom 13 ott 2013 20:01:37, hai scritto:
Oh! Yes!
Thanks!

It's just Frescobaldi's new feature: enhanced preview mode.  See
http://lilypondblog.org/2013/10/preview-mode-preview/
You can customize it in Tools->Preview Options

Janek


I'm slightly surprised because I thought I'd ensured the options are 
initially deactivated so you'd have to switch them on deliberately ...


I had asked about the issue with the compiler warnings some time ago but 
unfortunately didn't get any feedback:


If I write #(ly:set-option 'debug-control-points)
I can later access that variable as if I had added 
'ddebug-control-points on the command line.

But I get the warning you noticed.

So once again: Is there a chance to suppress this kind of warnings 
beyound addind the options to the known options in LilyPond's C++ code?


Best
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Re: Lyrics to hymn - new user

[Garrett McGilvray]

Hi Carl,

On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Carl Peterson  wrote:

> The basic answer is that you ideally need two sequential sets of voice 
> contexts, one for the verse, one for the chorus. So this would be your basic 
> setup:
> 
> \score {
>\new Staff = "top" {
> << \new Voice = "sopVerse" { } % voice for verse melody and combined alto
>  \new Voice = "altoVerse" { } % voice for verse alto lines that 
> require separate stem, such as "days" on line 2
> >>
> << \new Voice = "sopChorus" { } % voice for chorus melody and combined 
> alto
>  \new Voice = "altoChorus" { } % voice for chorus alto lines that 
> require separate stem, particularly "gently home" at end
> >>
>   }
>   \new Staff = "bottom" {
> << \new Voice = "tenVerse" { } % voice for verse tenor lines requiring 
> separate stems
>  \new Voice = "bassVerse" { } % voice for verse bass and combined 
> tenor stems
> >>
> << \new Voice = "tenChorus" { } % voice for chorus tenor lines requiring 
> separate stems
>  \new Voice = "bassChorus" { } % voice for chorus bass and combined 
> tenor stems
> >>
>   }
> }
> 
> You'll then associate your lyrics with the proper voices. Since the tenor 
> requires no separate lyrics (the final "gently home" can be attached to the 
> altoChorus voice), the mmr is not a huge issue here. You may need to do some 
> manual positioning to put it up high enough.
> 

I am so very grateful for your help. I have taken some time to study your 
answer and do some practicing. I'm sorry to say that I'm still stuck. Where I 
am getting confused is how to make a partial line (such as a note here or there 
in the Voice "altoVerse") come in and out next to a continuous running line (as 
the mixed soprano/alto Voice "sopVerse"). Here's what I tried that I thought 
made sense, although it also seemed like doing it the hard way. In any case, it 
did not work:

womenVerse = \relative c' {
\global
\keyTime
\new Voice = "sopVerse" {
4. 8 4  |
2 4  |
4. 8 4  |
2. r4 |
4. 8 4  |
2 4  |
4.
}
<<
\new Voice = "sopVerse" { f8 }
\new Voice = "altoVerse" { f8 }
>>
\new Voice = "sopVerse" {
4  |
2. r4 |
4. 8 4  |
2 4 r |
4. 8 4  |
2. r4 |
4  4. 8 |
4|
\set doubleSlurs = ##t
8( 4) 8 4  |
\unset doubleSlurs
}
<<
\new Voice = "sopVerse" { ef2 }
\new Voice = "altoVerse" { ef2 }
>>
\new Voice = "sopVerse" {
r4 \bar "."
}
}

Then I tried to plug in my variable to a score block after your model, but I 
didn't have any luck. I figure somehow I'm not using the variable right. Do you 
have a hymn you have done that you wouldn't mind sending the file so I could 
study it? Or perhaps the hacked version is different so it wouldn't work on my 
end?

> P.S.: nice scan from Wiegand's _Praise for the Lord_

Good catch! So was that a Google search or are you familiar with that hymnal? I 
was really excited that you recognized it. I think it's my favorite of the 
current hymnals.

Thanks again for your kind help.

PS. For anyone: is it proper etiquette to reply to all or just the person who 
responded?


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Re: Frescobaldi and pdf

[Mario Moles]

In data dom 13 ott 2013 20:01:37, hai scritto:
Oh! Yes! 
Thanks!
> 
> It's just Frescobaldi's new feature: enhanced preview mode.  See
> http://lilypondblog.org/2013/10/preview-mode-preview/
> You can customize it in Tools->Preview Options
> 
> Janek


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Re: b:7 chord in predefined guitar fretboards

[Federico Bruni]

2013/10/13 pls 

> Leave out the hash and it should work:
> \storePredefinedDiagram #default-fret-table
>\chordmode { b:7 }
>#guitar-tuning
>"x;2-2;1-1;2-2;o;2-4;"
>

and also add the last semicolon before the closing "
now it works, thanks

Back to my original question..
I've had a quick look at the documentation and I think I've found a reason
why default b:7 is not what I would expect. NR 2.4.1:

"""
In addition to fret diagrams, LilyPond stores an internal list of chord
shapes. The chord shapes are fret diagrams that can be shifted along the
neck to different positions to provide different chords. Chord shapes can
be added to the internal list and then used to define predefined fret
diagrams. Because they can be moved to various positions on the neck, chord
shapes will normally not contain any open strings. Like fret diagrams,
chord shapes can be entered as either fret-diagram-terse strings or
fret-diagram-verbose marking lists.
"""
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Re: Stand alone guitar chord diagrams

[Federico Bruni]

Hi Kevin

please reply to the list, you'll get much better help than from me (and the
replies will be available in the archives).
Have a look at the snippet called "Customizing fretboard fret diagrams"
down from here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#predefined-fret-diagrams

Before asking here, I suggest searching the LilyPond index of Notation
Reference (bottom of left menu). It took me few seconds to get from there
to that snippet...
Then of course you can ask if you have problems.

HTH
Federico



2013/10/13 Kevin Tough 

> Hi Federico,
>
> is it possible to add color and numbers to the individual black dots? In
> what documentation or searching for what text can I find further
> information?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin Tough
>
> On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 09:54 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
> > 2013/10/12 Kevin Tough 
> > In my course documentation I will need a flexible means to
> > generate
> > chord diagrams. I would be greatly surprised that Lilypond
> > could be used
> > for this but perhaps someone has experience with this and
> > would make a
> > suggestion as to what I might use. I'm running Linux and would
> > prefer
> > something open source.
> >
> > Something like this (very simple)?
> >
> >
> > \version "2.16.2"
> >
> >
> > \markup {
> >   \fill-line { \bold "Major chords in first position" }
> > }
> > \markup {
> >   \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-3;4-2;3-o;2-1;1-o;"
> >   \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-o;4-o;3-2;2-3;1-2;"
> >   \fret-diagram #"6-o;5-2;4-2;3-1;2-o;1-o;"
> > }
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Frescobaldi and pdf

[Janek Warchoł]

2013/10/13 Mario Moles :
> Hi!
>
> I have a strange message on the log:
>
> lilypond 2.17.25 [Inno ComoeniusOrch.ly] in avvio...
>
> attenzione: opzione interna sconosciuta: debug-control-points
> attenzione: opzione interna sconosciuta: debug-voices
>
> Elaborazione di
>
> and I also have a strange pdf output as in the image attached.
>
> I do not know what I clicked on in the menus of Frescobaldi: can you help
> me?

It's just Frescobaldi's new feature: enhanced preview mode.  See
http://lilypondblog.org/2013/10/preview-mode-preview/
You can customize it in Tools->Preview Options

Janek

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Re: b:7 chord in predefined guitar fretboards

[pls]

Hi Frederico,
On 13.10.2013, at 18:35, Federico Bruni  wrote:

> The default chord is derived from the shape of bes:7, so it requires a barré.
> But there's also a handy shape in first position. Shouldn't this be the 
> default?
> 
> I've tried to change the definition but there's something wrong, see below:
> 
> \version "2.17.27"
> \include "predefined-guitar-fretboards.ly"
> 
> \storePredefinedDiagram #default-fret-table \chordmode {b:7}
> #guitar-tuning
> %#(offset-fret 1 (chord-shape 'bes:7 guitar-tuning))
> #"x;2-2;1-1;2-3;o;2-4"
Leave out the hash and it should work:
\storePredefinedDiagram #default-fret-table
   \chordmode { b:7 }
   #guitar-tuning
   "x;2-2;1-1;2-2;o;2-4;" 

hth
patrick
> 
> chordsGuitar = \chordmode {
>   b:7
> }
> 
> \score {
>   <<
> \new ChordNames \chordsGuitar
> \new FretBoards \chordsGuitar
>   >>
> }
> 
> % the change above is not working as expected
> % this is what I'm trying to produce:
> \markup { \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-2;4-1;3-2;2-o;1-2;" }
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Frescobaldi and pdf

[Mario Moles]

Hi! 
I have a strange message on the log:
*_/lilypond 2.17.25 [Inno ComoeniusOrch.ly] in avvio.../_*
*_/attenzione: opzione interna sconosciuta: debug-control-points/_*
*_/attenzione: opzione interna sconosciuta: debug-voices/_*
*_/Elaborazione di/_*
and I also have a strange pdf output as in the image attached.
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Re: Positioning full-measure rests

[Peter Toye]

Phil,

Thanks. Works fine.

Best regards,

Peter
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-
Sunday, October 13, 2013, 5:49:48 PM, you wrote:


The best way (IMHO) is to use \oneVoice before the rest, then put the voice 
back (e.g. with \voiceOne) afterwards.  Alternatively you can use
 
\override MultiMeasureRest.staff-position

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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:35 PM
Subject: Positioning full-measure rests

In some vocal music which needs multiple voices in the piano part, I want to 
position a full-measure rest in the middle of the staff. Using R1.(it's in 3/2 
time) puts it horizontally in the right place, but vertically at the top of the 
staff. Using b'1.\Rest positions it at the beginning of the bar but in the 
right position vertically. How can I position the rest in the correct place on 
the staff?

 
Regards,

Peter
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Re: Positioning full-measure rests

[David Kastrup]

Peter Toye  writes:

> In some vocal music which needs multiple voices in the piano part, I
> want to position a full-measure rest in the middle of the staff. Using
> R1.(it's in 3/2 time) puts it horizontally in the right place, but
> vertically at the top of the staff. Using b'1.\Rest positions it at
> the beginning of the bar but in the right position vertically. How can
> I position the rest in the correct place on the staff?

Which version?

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Re: Colored note heads with black outline

[Paul Morris]

Onno Zweers wrote
> Would it be an idea to post the code in the snippets database?

Hi Onno,  Glad this is working for you.  I was thinking I would add it to
the snippet database (LSR).  I realized it needs to be improved so that it
will also handle \breve and \longa note durations correctly.  I'll include
some examples of using the "(x11-color 'orange)" style colors to help make
it more obvious that that's an option.

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Re: Positioning full-measure rests

[Phil Holmes]

Positioning full-measure restsThe best way (IMHO) is to use \oneVoice before 
the rest, then put the voice back (e.g. with \voiceOne) afterwards.  
Alternatively you can use

\override MultiMeasureRest.staff-position

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:35 PM
  Subject: Positioning full-measure rests


  In some vocal music which needs multiple voices in the piano part, I want to 
position a full-measure rest in the middle of the staff. Using R1.(it's in 3/2 
time) puts it horizontally in the right place, but vertically at the top of the 
staff. Using b'1.\Rest positions it at the beginning of the bar but in the 
right position vertically. How can I position the rest in the correct place on 
the staff?

   
  Regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com


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Re: Automatic generation of scores skeletons

[Paul Morris]

Jacques Menu-2 wrote
> Also, entering the spec data could be done in a GUI window as an
> extension.

I could see this being integrated into Frescobaldi, perhaps?

Nice work, btw!
-Paul 



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Re: ugly bar line when changing line-count

[EdBeesley]

I'm a percussionist and I've played from parts that behave like the examples
Gilberto has given. I agree that the default behaviour of LP is a bit ugly,
and when shrunk down onto a part I imagine it would cause a few raised
eyebrows from my percussion colleagues! His proposed suggestions would be
easier to read and should be default behaviour for LP imo. 



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b:7 chord in predefined guitar fretboards

[Federico Bruni]

The default chord is derived from the shape of bes:7, so it requires a
barré.
But there's also a handy shape in first position. Shouldn't this be the
default?

I've tried to change the definition but there's something wrong, see below:

\version "2.17.27"
\include "predefined-guitar-fretboards.ly"

\storePredefinedDiagram #default-fret-table \chordmode {b:7}
#guitar-tuning
%#(offset-fret 1 (chord-shape 'bes:7 guitar-tuning))
#"x;2-2;1-1;2-3;o;2-4"

chordsGuitar = \chordmode {
  b:7
}

\score {
  <<
\new ChordNames \chordsGuitar
\new FretBoards \chordsGuitar
  >>
}

% the change above is not working as expected
% this is what I'm trying to produce:
\markup { \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-2;4-1;3-2;2-o;1-2;" }
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Positioning full-measure rests

[Peter Toye]

In some vocal music which needs multiple voices in the piano part, I want to 
position a full-measure rest in the middle of the staff. Using R1.(it's in 3/2 
time) puts it horizontally in the right place, but vertically at the top of the 
staff. Using b'1.\Rest positions it at the beginning of the bar but in the 
right position vertically. How can I position the rest in the correct place on 
the staff?

 
Regards,

Peter
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Re: Lyric-Staff-spacing fails with smaller lyrics

[Paul Morris]

Eluze wrote
> I don't think LP fails, it's just that the vertical spacing isn't
> corrected with the \staffSize macro (which btw can be simplified to
> 
> staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
>   #{
> \set fontSize = #new-size
> \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
> \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
>   #})
> 
> and then it can be used in any context owning a font size engraver)

Nice simplification and generalization!  I've updated the following
"staffSize" snippet with this revised version of the code.  (Let me know if
this is not a good idea for some reason.)
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=862

Thanks,
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Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams

[Ed Gordijn]

Hi Phil,

> Please feel free to update it like that.

Yes, sure that's what I would do if I would need this myself. But I was
wondering why we don't use more color in music notation. On stage you could
argue that readability is worse but for rehearsal color could be very
useful.

Greetings, Ed
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Re: Lilypond down?

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Hi, I just want to say that lilypond.org is back online.



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Re: Lilypond.org

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Hi, I just want to say that lilypond.org is back online.



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Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams

[Ed Gordijn]

Hi,

This is nice but... Wouldn't it be very nice to use color instead of a
black/white dot to indicate the key?

Greetings, Ed
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Re: [OT] guitar scales

[Johan Vromans]

Federico Bruni  writes:

> Hi
>
> this is OT because I think that what I'm looking for cannot be done in
> LilyPond.
> I'd like to generate some guitar scales, as you can see here:
> http://archives.mikeerickson.net/guitar-scales/#/scales/A/minor
>
> But I'd like to be able to print them in PDF and change the layout of the
> grids.
> Do you know any free (as in freedom) software I can try?

I have some (very old) perl tools that produce PostScript, e.g.,
http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/uploads/3C21LI2walxmMW8KPxQSaBzA.ps

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Re: [OT] guitar scales

[Federico Bruni]

2013/10/13 Thomas Morley 

> how about
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=790
>

interesting!
but I have some issues if I try to use it in a \markup block only:

1) the first diagram is cropped on the left margin
2) all the diagrams have a "barré" printed on the first fret

see file attached

finally, a minor problem:
3) I don't think that the same chord definition can contain overlapping
frets (I've made just a quick test)


scale-diagram-test.ly
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Re: [OT] guitar scales

[Federico Bruni]

2013/10/13 David Kastrup 

> Federico Bruni  writes:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > this is OT because I think that what I'm looking for cannot be done in
> > LilyPond.
> > I'd like to generate some guitar scales, as you can see here:
> > http://archives.mikeerickson.net/guitar-scales/#/scales/A/minor
>
> Well, LilyPond certainly can be coaxed into producing that kind of
> information.  But I am not sure I understand what is being displayed
> here.  Numbers R 2 3 4 5 6 7 are apparently based on a major scale (I
> see # only in the Lydian scale).  And the diagrams on the right produce
> an "unambiguous" scale using minimal fret positions?
>
>
The first diagram shows an overview of all the fretboard; the following
diagrams break down the fretboard, just to make reading easier.



> > But I'd like to be able to print them in PDF and change the layout of the
> > grids.
>
> What do you mean with "layout of the grids"?
>

Sorry, I just meant to say that I'd like to be able to put the diagram
horizontally and in the perspective of the player (just like chord diagrams
in LilyPond).
I would use a landscape orientation.
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Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "David Kastrup" 

To: "Phil Holmes" 
Cc: "Thomas Morley" ; "lilypond-user" 


Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams



"Phil Holmes"  writes:


Starting off would be on
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3563#c4>. 
Check

its output.  This is basically what you need, except that you need to
replace the C-Griff function which uses filled and non-filled circles 
in

a three-row arrangement with a more tedious rectangular arrangement.

The c-griff function here only does the formatting and would need to be
completely replaced.  In contrast, the stuff in define-scheme-function
could be kept unchanged.


Or maybe
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=791
might give some inspiration.

Cheers,
 Harm


Thanks to David and Harm for their suggestions.  For now I've gone
with adapting what Harm suggested - I've tidied the code a little and
added a scaling parameter that varies the width of the keys and the
size of the dot. Example output is attached, together with the file
used to create this.



  \textLengthOn
  b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #1 r r2 r1
  b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #1.5 r r2 r1
  b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #key_scale r r2 r1
  a4^\markup\keys #'(a) #2.5 r r2 r1
  bes4^\markup\keys #'(bes) #3 r r2


Ah, but you need to type every note/chord yourself.  The part to be
taken from my suggestion was supposed to automate that effort, making
the whole thing typo-proof.



Yes, I realise that and would like to add that feature.  But for now it 
allows me to play the xylophone (I hope) and so I will need to devote the 
time to studying the automated mechanism when I have more time - during 
vacation.


--
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Re: Colored note heads with black outline

[Onno Zweers]

Hi Paul and Pierre,

Thanks! The latest code worked wonderfully! I adapted the colors, which 
was easy after I found out that "orange" is not a standard color and 
should be specified as (x11-color 'orange).


Would it be an idea to post the code in the snippets database?

Kind regards
Onno

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Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams

[David Kastrup]

"Phil Holmes"  writes:

>>> Starting off would be on
>>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3563#c4>.  Check
>>> its output.  This is basically what you need, except that you need to
>>> replace the C-Griff function which uses filled and non-filled circles in
>>> a three-row arrangement with a more tedious rectangular arrangement.
>>>
>>> The c-griff function here only does the formatting and would need to be
>>> completely replaced.  In contrast, the stuff in define-scheme-function
>>> could be kept unchanged.
>>
>> Or maybe
>> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=791
>> might give some inspiration.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Harm
>
> Thanks to David and Harm for their suggestions.  For now I've gone
> with adapting what Harm suggested - I've tidied the code a little and
> added a scaling parameter that varies the width of the keys and the
> size of the dot. Example output is attached, together with the file
> used to create this.

>   \textLengthOn
>   b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #1 r r2 r1
>   b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #1.5 r r2 r1
>   b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #key_scale r r2 r1
>   a4^\markup\keys #'(a) #2.5 r r2 r1
>   bes4^\markup\keys #'(bes) #3 r r2

Ah, but you need to type every note/chord yourself.  The part to be
taken from my suggestion was supposed to automate that effort, making
the whole thing typo-proof.

-- 
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Re: Lilypond.org

[Federico Bruni]

I can confirm it.
I guess that there is some server maintenance going on. If you try this
website:
http://www.webpagetest.org/

you'll see that no content can be downloaded,  IIUC
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Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams

[Simon Bailey]

that is cool! :D i've been using lilypond for 10 years and it
sometimes still surprises me at how powerful it is... ;)

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Phil Holmes  wrote:
> - Original Message - From: "Thomas Morley"
> 
> To: "David Kastrup" 
> Cc: "lilypond-user" 
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams
>
>
>> 2013/10/12 David Kastrup :
>>>
>>> "Phil Holmes"  writes:
>>>
 At college, one of my ensembles is a mixed-music group performing
 modern music.  I normally get away with singing or "playing" a
 triangle and bits of other untuned percussion.  Imagine my surprised
 when I was given a xylophone piece to play.  Fortunately, it's only
 one note at a time, and most of them are the same note, repeated for
 four bars, so I generally have the time to work out where the next key
 is when I'm playing the current one.  However, I thought it might be
 interesting and vaguely useful to have some piano key diagrams which
 show which key is to be played, rather like the fingering diagrams.
 The attached image illustrates the kind of thing: playing D#.

 I know I could use box, rounded-box or filled-box, or moveto/lineto
 commands to draw the boxes, so I clearly could create the diagrams
 individually for each note.  However, I thought it would be better to
 create a function to do this.  I'd presume the location of each box
 would be in some sort of array/list, and that the function would use
 the 'pitch of the note to determine which to fill.  However, I've read
 our documentation on scheme and am stuck on how to start, either
 creating the array/list and iterating over it to draw boxes, or
 grabbing the pitch value of a note.

 Could anyone start me off on this and help when I get stuck again?
>>>
>>>
>>> Starting off would be on
>>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3563#c4>.  Check
>>> its output.  This is basically what you need, except that you need to
>>> replace the C-Griff function which uses filled and non-filled circles in
>>> a three-row arrangement with a more tedious rectangular arrangement.
>>>
>>> The c-griff function here only does the formatting and would need to be
>>> completely replaced.  In contrast, the stuff in define-scheme-function
>>> could be kept unchanged.
>>
>>
>> Or maybe
>> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=791
>> might give some inspiration.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Harm
>
>
> Thanks to David and Harm for their suggestions.  For now I've gone with
> adapting what Harm suggested - I've tidied the code a little and added a
> scaling parameter that varies the width of the keys and the size of the dot.
> Example output is attached, together with the file used to create this.
>
> --
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Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Morley" 

To: "David Kastrup" 
Cc: "lilypond-user" 
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Piano/Xylophone key diagrams



2013/10/12 David Kastrup :

"Phil Holmes"  writes:


At college, one of my ensembles is a mixed-music group performing
modern music.  I normally get away with singing or "playing" a
triangle and bits of other untuned percussion.  Imagine my surprised
when I was given a xylophone piece to play.  Fortunately, it's only
one note at a time, and most of them are the same note, repeated for
four bars, so I generally have the time to work out where the next key
is when I'm playing the current one.  However, I thought it might be
interesting and vaguely useful to have some piano key diagrams which
show which key is to be played, rather like the fingering diagrams.
The attached image illustrates the kind of thing: playing D#.

I know I could use box, rounded-box or filled-box, or moveto/lineto
commands to draw the boxes, so I clearly could create the diagrams
individually for each note.  However, I thought it would be better to
create a function to do this.  I'd presume the location of each box
would be in some sort of array/list, and that the function would use
the 'pitch of the note to determine which to fill.  However, I've read
our documentation on scheme and am stuck on how to start, either
creating the array/list and iterating over it to draw boxes, or
grabbing the pitch value of a note.

Could anyone start me off on this and help when I get stuck again?


Starting off would be on
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3563#c4>.  Check
its output.  This is basically what you need, except that you need to
replace the C-Griff function which uses filled and non-filled circles in
a three-row arrangement with a more tedious rectangular arrangement.

The c-griff function here only does the formatting and would need to be
completely replaced.  In contrast, the stuff in define-scheme-function
could be kept unchanged.


Or maybe
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=791
might give some inspiration.

Cheers,
 Harm


Thanks to David and Harm for their suggestions.  For now I've gone with 
adapting what Harm suggested - I've tidied the code a little and added a 
scaling parameter that varies the width of the keys and the size of the dot. 
Example output is attached, together with the file used to create this.


--
Phil Holmes 
<>#(define KEY-POS-LIST '(   
   (c.1) (cis  .  1.5) (des . 1.5) (d.2) (dis  .  2.5) (ees  .  2.5) (e   .  3) 
   (f.4) (fis  .  4.5) (ges . 4.5) (g.5) (gis  .  5.5) (aes  .  5.5) (a   .  6) 
   (ais  .  6.5) (bes  .  6.5) (b   .   7)))

#(define (black-key? num )
   (member num '(cis  des  dis  ees  fis  ges  gis  aes  ais  bes)) )

#(define (key-to-pos key ypos scale)
  (let ((keypos (assq key KEY-POS-LIST)))
   (if (not keypos)
(ly:error (_ "keyboard diagram error - unknown note '~a'") key)
(cons (* (- (cdr (assq key KEY-POS-LIST)) 0.5) scale) (+ (* (- scale 1) 0.32) ypos)

#(define (make-keys l1 width off height scale)
   (if (null? l1) 
   empty-stencil
   (ly:stencil-add 
  (ly:stencil-translate
(make-line-stencil 0.1 0 0 0 height) 
   (cons (* (- (car l1) 1) scale) off ))
  (make-keys (cdr l1) width off height scale

#(define (make-keys-black l1 width off height scale)
   (if (null? l1) 
   empty-stencil
   (ly:stencil-add 
  (ly:stencil-translate
(ly:round-filled-box `(0 . ,(* width scale)) `(0 . ,height) 0) 
   (cons (* (- (car l1) (/ width 2)) scale )  off))
  (make-keys-black (cdr l1) width off height scale

#(define (make-dot key scale)
  (if (black-key? key)
(ly:stencil-in-color 
  (ly:stencil-translate (make-circle-stencil  (* 0.27 scale) 0 #t) (key-to-pos key 2.5 scale)) 1 1 1)
(ly:stencil-translate (make-circle-stencil  (* 0.32 scale) 0 #t) (key-to-pos key 0.5 scale)) ))

#(define (make-dot-list l1 scale)
   (if (null? l1) 
   empty-stencil
   (ly:stencil-add 
  (make-dot (car l1) scale)
  (make-dot-list (cdr l1) scale 

#(define-markup-command (keys layout props arg1 arg2) (list? number?) 
(ly:stencil-add
  (make-line-stencil 0.1 0 0 (* 7 arg2) 0)
  (make-line-stencil 0.1 0 6 (* 7 arg2)  6)
  (make-keys   '(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8) 10 6 arg2)
  (make-keys-black '(1 2   4 5 6) 0.65 2 4 arg2)
  (make-dot-list arg1 arg2)))

key_scale=2.0

\relative c'' {
  \textLengthOn
  b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #1 r r2 r1
  b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #1.5 r r2 r1
  b4^\markup\keys #'(b) #key_scale r r2 r1
  a4^\markup\keys #'(a) #2.5 r r2 r1
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RE: Ossia - Documentation Recommendation

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Mr. Bailey,

Noted. Thank you.

Mark

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From: bina...@gmail.com [mailto:bina...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Simon Bailey
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:15 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cc: Wim van Dommelen; lilypond-user Mailinglist
Subject: Re: Ossia - Documentation Recommendation

hi,

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek 
wrote:
> My recommendation was based on an attempt to utilize the snippet as 
> presented. It did not do what I needed. I then added the \key command 
> were I recommend and it did work. This seems to be a whole lot of 
> kerfuflle over a simple, honest, recommendation.

i'm sorry if you understood my email to be a "whole lot of kerfuffle".
I simply took your original recommendation and expanded it to the next
section of the documentation, as it is no longer a trivial one-liner to get
key signatures printed in the ossia. and also because adding a key signature
will introduce funny floating key-signatures as the example is currently
written.

regards,
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Re: Ossia - Documentation Recommendation

[Simon Bailey]

hi,

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek
 wrote:
> My recommendation was based on an attempt to utilize the snippet as
> presented. It did not do what I needed. I then added the \key command were I
> recommend and it did work. This seems to be a whole lot of kerfuflle over a
> simple, honest, recommendation.

i'm sorry if you understood my email to be a "whole lot of kerfuffle".
I simply took your original recommendation and expanded it to the next
section of the documentation, as it is no longer a trivial one-liner
to get key signatures printed in the ossia. and also because adding a
key signature will introduce funny floating key-signatures as the
example is currently written.

regards,
sb

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Re: Lilypond down?

[David Nalesnik]

Ralph,


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Ralph Palmer wrote:

> Greetings -
>
> I'm running Windows 7. When I try to connect to Lilypond.org this morning,
> I get "No data received". Chrome says "Error code : ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE".
>
> Is it just me?
>
>
Not just you.  Same result on Windows XP.

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Lilypond down?

[Ralph Palmer]

Greetings -

I'm running Windows 7. When I try to connect to Lilypond.org this morning,
I get "No data received". Chrome says "Error code : ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE".

Is it just me?

Ralph

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Re: Lilypond.org

[bart deruyter]

I can't reach it either. Ubuntustudio 13.04 here, from Belgium. Same
message from  
http://www.**downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
too,
should be up, but doesn't load here.

grtz,
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> Is anyone else having difficulties accessing lilypond.org?  If I try from
> a browser from any one of 3 machines here (Windows Vista, 7 and Ubuntu),
> browsers Chrome, Firefox and IE, I'm told the site can't be accessed.  If I
> use either of 2 programs I wrote, they download the page OK.  If I try
> http://www.**downforeveryoneorjustme.com/it's
>  fine.  If I try a proxy I wrote on the web, it's fine.
>
> Mystified but seeking help.
>
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Re: Lilypond.org

[Robert Schmaus]

I can't access it either (on Mac 10.7 / Safari). No message, just a 
blank page ...




Am 10/13/13 1:50 PM, schrieb Phil Holmes:

Is anyone else having difficulties accessing lilypond.org?  If I try
from a browser from any one of 3 machines here (Windows Vista, 7 and
Ubuntu), browsers Chrome, Firefox and IE, I'm told the site can't be
accessed.  If I use either of 2 programs I wrote, they download the page
OK.  If I try http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ it's fine.  If I
try a proxy I wrote on the web, it's fine.

Mystified but seeking help.

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Lilypond.org

[Phil Holmes]

Is anyone else having difficulties accessing lilypond.org?  If I try from a 
browser from any one of 3 machines here (Windows Vista, 7 and Ubuntu), 
browsers Chrome, Firefox and IE, I'm told the site can't be accessed.  If I 
use either of 2 programs I wrote, they download the page OK.  If I try 
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ it's fine.  If I try a proxy I wrote 
on the web, it's fine.


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Re: [OT] guitar scales

[Thomas Morley]

2013/10/13 Federico Bruni :
> Hi
>
> this is OT because I think that what I'm looking for cannot be done in
> LilyPond.
> I'd like to generate some guitar scales, as you can see here:
> http://archives.mikeerickson.net/guitar-scales/#/scales/A/minor
>
> But I'd like to be able to print them in PDF and change the layout of the
> grids.
> Do you know any free (as in freedom) software I can try?
>
> Thanks
> Federico

Hi Federico,

how about
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=790

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: [OT] guitar scales

[David Kastrup]

Federico Bruni  writes:

> Hi
>
> this is OT because I think that what I'm looking for cannot be done in
> LilyPond.
> I'd like to generate some guitar scales, as you can see here:
> http://archives.mikeerickson.net/guitar-scales/#/scales/A/minor

Well, LilyPond certainly can be coaxed into producing that kind of
information.  But I am not sure I understand what is being displayed
here.  Numbers R 2 3 4 5 6 7 are apparently based on a major scale (I
see # only in the Lydian scale).  And the diagrams on the right produce
an "unambiguous" scale using minimal fret positions?

> But I'd like to be able to print them in PDF and change the layout of the
> grids.

What do you mean with "layout of the grids"?

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[OT] guitar scales

[Federico Bruni]

Hi

this is OT because I think that what I'm looking for cannot be done in
LilyPond.
I'd like to generate some guitar scales, as you can see here:
http://archives.mikeerickson.net/guitar-scales/#/scales/A/minor

But I'd like to be able to print them in PDF and change the layout of the
grids.
Do you know any free (as in freedom) software I can try?

Thanks
Federico
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Re: Stand alone guitar chord diagrams

[Federico Bruni]

don't forget this after the \version statement:

\include "predefined-guitar-fretboards.ly"




2013/10/13 SoundsFromSound 

> Or do you mean something like this, with notes as well?
>
> \version "2.17.24"
>
> global = {
>   \time 4/4
>   \key c \major
>   }
>
> chordNames = \chordmode {
>   \global
>   c1 g1 e1 d1
>
> }
>
> melody = \relative c'' {
>   \global
>   c4 d e f
>   g g f g
>   e g a g
>   d d d d
> }
>
>
> \score {
>   <<
> \new ChordNames \chordNames
> \new FretBoards \chordNames
> \new Staff { \melody }
>
>   >>
>
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> Federico Bruni-5 wrote
> > 2013/10/12 Kevin Tough <
>
> > kevin@
>
> > >
> >
> >> In my course documentation I will need a flexible means to generate
> >> chord diagrams. I would be greatly surprised that Lilypond could be used
> >> for this but perhaps someone has experience with this and would make a
> >> suggestion as to what I might use. I'm running Linux and would prefer
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> >>
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> > Something like this (very simple)?
> >
> > \version "2.16.2"
> >
> > \markup {
> >   \fill-line { \bold "Major chords in first position" }
> > }
> > \markup {
> >   \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-3;4-2;3-o;2-1;1-o;"
> >   \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-o;4-o;3-2;2-3;1-2;"
> >   \fret-diagram #"6-o;5-2;4-2;3-1;2-o;1-o;"
> > }
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Re: Stand alone guitar chord diagrams

[SoundsFromSound]

Or do you mean something like this, with notes as well?

\version "2.17.24"

global = {
  \time 4/4
  \key c \major
  }

chordNames = \chordmode {
  \global
  c1 g1 e1 d1
  
}

melody = \relative c'' {
  \global
  c4 d e f
  g g f g
  e g a g 
  d d d d
}


\score {
  <<
\new ChordNames \chordNames
\new FretBoards \chordNames
\new Staff { \melody }

  >>
 
}





Federico Bruni-5 wrote
> 2013/10/12 Kevin Tough <

> kevin@

> >
> 
>> In my course documentation I will need a flexible means to generate
>> chord diagrams. I would be greatly surprised that Lilypond could be used
>> for this but perhaps someone has experience with this and would make a
>> suggestion as to what I might use. I'm running Linux and would prefer
>> something open source.
>>
> 
> Something like this (very simple)?
> 
> \version "2.16.2"
> 
> \markup {
>   \fill-line { \bold "Major chords in first position" }
> }
> \markup {
>   \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-3;4-2;3-o;2-1;1-o;"
>   \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-o;4-o;3-2;2-3;1-2;"
>   \fret-diagram #"6-o;5-2;4-2;3-1;2-o;1-o;"
> }
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Re: Stand alone guitar chord diagrams

[Federico Bruni]

2013/10/12 Kevin Tough 

> In my course documentation I will need a flexible means to generate
> chord diagrams. I would be greatly surprised that Lilypond could be used
> for this but perhaps someone has experience with this and would make a
> suggestion as to what I might use. I'm running Linux and would prefer
> something open source.
>

Something like this (very simple)?

\version "2.16.2"

\markup {
  \fill-line { \bold "Major chords in first position" }
}
\markup {
  \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-3;4-2;3-o;2-1;1-o;"
  \fret-diagram #"6-x;5-o;4-o;3-2;2-3;1-2;"
  \fret-diagram #"6-o;5-2;4-2;3-1;2-o;1-o;"
}
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