Re: Crowd engraving project

2014-08-22 Thread Alberto Simões

Hello

Although based on ABC, you might like to wiki-score.org

Cheers

On 22/08/14, 03:34, Abraham Lee wrote:

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

Hi all,

this has been discussed before, but now's the time to repeat the call
for participation for our crowd engraving project with Das trunkne
Lied, a large scale orchestral work by Oskar Fried.

We are looking for people to enter and proofread music in a peer
review workflow and who are interested in discussing and experiencing
a proof-of-concept crowd engraving project.

We expect some experience with LilyPond and romantic orchestral music.
Our workflows are based on Git and some related concepts so you should
either know that or are willing to learn it on the job. This is
definitely possible but we won't be able to do too much hand-holding.

There are two targets to meet: we should deliver audio files for the
choir and soloists by end of September and instrumental parts by the
end of the year. So far it is only targeted at usable and not
publication quality.
The music comprises 90 segments (respectively rehearsal marks), and
one usually has to deal with only one instrument / one segment at once).

This is a paid job - but please don't expect this to be anywhere near
appropriate. We're doing this as a proof of concept, for an amateur
orchestra.

You can see the material at http://beautifulscores.net/fried/ - an
extremely sketchy site that I put together using an SSH client on my
mobile - we'll dive right into it when I've returned from holidays.

If you're interested (and this also goes for those who had already
expressed interest last year) please contact me privately, on this
list or on the project mailing list
http://lists.ursliska.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/das-trunkne-lied

I'm looking forward to any contact .
.
Best wishes
Urs


I am soo in! Sounds awesome!

-Abraham


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Re: Crowd engraving project

2014-08-22 Thread Phil Holmes
Count me in for some work.

Are the scans really that bad? I often use scanning to create musicXML, and 
this will clearly not work here: but I'm not convinced I could even get the 
notes with the patent Holmes eye scan method?

I'm also presuming from your comments that there's no music to listen to that 
could be used to check the work?

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: lilypond-user 
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:31 PM
  Subject: Crowd engraving project


  Hi all,

  this has been discussed before, but now's the time to repeat the call for 
participation for our crowd engraving project with Das trunkne Lied, a large 
scale orchestral work by Oskar Fried. 

  We are looking for people to enter and proofread music in a peer review 
workflow and who are interested in discussing and experiencing a 
proof-of-concept crowd engraving project.

  We expect some experience with LilyPond and romantic orchestral music. Our 
workflows are based on Git and some related concepts so you should either know 
that or are willing to learn it on the job. This is definitely possible but we 
won't be able to do too much hand-holding.

  There are two targets to meet: we should deliver audio files for the choir 
and soloists by end of September and instrumental parts by the end of the year. 
So far it is only targeted at usable and not publication quality. 
  The music comprises 90 segments (respectively rehearsal marks), and one 
usually has to deal with only one instrument / one segment at once).

  This is a paid job - but please don't expect this to be anywhere near 
appropriate. We're doing this as a proof of concept, for an amateur orchestra.

  You can see the material at http://beautifulscores.net/fried/ - an extremely 
sketchy site that I put together using an SSH client on my mobile - we'll dive 
right into it when I've returned from holidays.

  If you're interested (and this also goes for those who had already expressed 
interest last year) please contact me privately, on this list or on the project 
mailing list http://lists.ursliska.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/das-trunkne-lied

  I'm looking forward to any contact .
  .
  Best wishes
  Urs



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Re: Crowd engraving project

2014-08-22 Thread Peter Crighton
Great, you can still count me in!


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2014-08-22 0:31 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:

 Hi all,

 this has been discussed before, but now's the time to repeat the call for
 participation for our crowd engraving project with Das trunkne Lied, a
 large scale orchestral work by Oskar Fried.

 We are looking for people to enter and proofread music in a peer review
 workflow and who are interested in discussing and experiencing a
 proof-of-concept crowd engraving project.

 We expect some experience with LilyPond and romantic orchestral music. Our
 workflows are based on Git and some related concepts so you should either
 know that or are willing to learn it on the job. This is definitely
 possible but we won't be able to do too much hand-holding.

 There are two targets to meet: we should deliver audio files for the choir
 and soloists by end of September and instrumental parts by the end of the
 year. So far it is only targeted at usable and not publication quality.
 The music comprises 90 segments (respectively rehearsal marks), and one
 usually has to deal with only one instrument / one segment at once).

 This is a paid job - but please don't expect this to be anywhere near
 appropriate. We're doing this as a proof of concept, for an amateur
 orchestra.

 You can see the material at http://beautifulscores.net/fried/ - an
 extremely sketchy site that I put together using an SSH client on my mobile
 - we'll dive right into it when I've returned from holidays.

 If you're interested (and this also goes for those who had already
 expressed interest last year) please contact me privately, on this list or
 on the project mailing list
 http://lists.ursliska.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/das-trunkne-lied

 I'm looking forward to any contact .
 .
 Best wishes
 Urs

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Re: Crowd engraving project

2014-08-22 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all,

thank you for all the interest.  Together with the other people already in the 
project we'll be able to make a good example how fast a score can grow :-)

I'll give more details when I'm back from holidays (very soon unfortunately), 
only a few cpmments for now (sorry for bot threading that properly).

The material to work with is significantly better than what you have now.

Any amount of contribution is welcome. You just have to take into account the 
effort of setting everything up and getting acquainted with the project.

Musicological expertise is not required. Nor are programming skills.

One works with files containing one voice for one rehearsal mark. That reduces 
waiting times for recompilation..
It seems best to enter all voices for a rehearsal mark in one unit of work. 
That way one can make most use of copy and paste as there is much duplication 
of voices in the score.

The piece hasn't been performed in the last 100 or so years - so no, there is 
no recording. But I can (privately) share some other recordings to get into the 
mood of the music.
(The concert we're preparing this for will be recorded and broadcast in the 
radio btw).

That's what comes to my mind for now - kids urgently need me in the water :-)

Best
Urs

On 22. August 2014 11:32:26 MESZ, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:
Count me in for some work.

Are the scans really that bad? I often use scanning to create musicXML,
and this will clearly not work here: but I'm not convinced I could even
get the notes with the patent Holmes eye scan method?

I'm also presuming from your comments that there's no music to listen
to that could be used to check the work?

--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: lilypond-user 
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:31 PM
  Subject: Crowd engraving project


  Hi all,

this has been discussed before, but now's the time to repeat the call
for participation for our crowd engraving project with Das trunkne
Lied, a large scale orchestral work by Oskar Fried. 

We are looking for people to enter and proofread music in a peer review
workflow and who are interested in discussing and experiencing a
proof-of-concept crowd engraving project.

We expect some experience with LilyPond and romantic orchestral music.
Our workflows are based on Git and some related concepts so you should
either know that or are willing to learn it on the job. This is
definitely possible but we won't be able to do too much hand-holding.

There are two targets to meet: we should deliver audio files for the
choir and soloists by end of September and instrumental parts by the
end of the year. So far it is only targeted at usable and not
publication quality. 
The music comprises 90 segments (respectively rehearsal marks), and
one usually has to deal with only one instrument / one segment at
once).

This is a paid job - but please don't expect this to be anywhere near
appropriate. We're doing this as a proof of concept, for an amateur
orchestra.

You can see the material at http://beautifulscores.net/fried/ - an
extremely sketchy site that I put together using an SSH client on my
mobile - we'll dive right into it when I've returned from holidays.

If you're interested (and this also goes for those who had already
expressed interest last year) please contact me privately, on this list
or on the project mailing list
http://lists.ursliska.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/das-trunkne-lied

  I'm looking forward to any contact .
  .
  Best wishes
  Urs



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define different TabStaff.minimumFret for any string?

2014-08-22 Thread BB
Is there any possibility to define a different TabStaff.minimumFret for any
string? 

(There are existing some strange ancient instrument with a staggered nut, so
my question makes some sense.)

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Re: define different TabStaff.minimumFret for any string?

2014-08-22 Thread Phil Burfitt
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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:42 PM
Subject: define different TabStaff.minimumFret for any string?


Is there any possibility to define a different TabStaff.minimumFret for 
any

string?

(There are existing some strange ancient instrument with a staggered nut, 
so

my question makes some sense.)

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Not that I'm aware of (maybe someone else with more knowledge can answer 
that). However, you could use Voice.minimumFret if the string(s) are in a 
different voice.


hth

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Re:Crowd engraving project (Urs Liska)

2014-08-22 Thread Guy Stalnaker
Count me in.

Guy Stalnaker
jimmyg...@gmail.com
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Re: Re:Crowd engraving project (Urs Liska)

2014-08-22 Thread flup2
The same for me

Philippe



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Re: Crowd engraving project

2014-08-22 Thread Michał Konopacki

Hello List!

First of all let me thank you all developers for creating and maintaing 
this wonderful program. My name is Michał and for quite a few months I 
observe the List, althought didn't have opportunity to help, nor ask for 
it because as yet I found all solutions to my problems in archives and 
documentation.


Let me introduce myself. I'm active Youth Choir singer ( 8th year for 
now) - not professional although we are working with professional 
orchestras from time to time and taking a part in international choral 
competitions about once a year. I'm passionate of choral music, and I 
treat it as important part of my life. Recently I undertook a task to 
rewrite short (10-15 min) orchestral piece of the founder and very first 
conductor of our choir.
I chose Lilypond as a tool mostly because of its text foundations 
(primary there was a plan to collaborate with others) and possibility to 
structure the project according to our needs. Althought the work is not 
yet finished, I'm amazed of the program's performance mostly because the 
output of instrumetal parts looks almost exactly the same as handwritten 
scores (which were very well designed), and I done only a very few 
tweaks (I'm still a Lilypond noob)
Besides I work in a software company, so the is no problem with VCSs 
(git, svn).


I would be very happy to give back something to the community and take 
part in this experiment and create a real product which will be used by 
others. Also I'm very interested in organisational concepts in this 
Project - I feel I'll learn a lot!


Best Regards
Michał Konopacki

W dniu 2014-08-22 14:26, Urs Liska pisze:

Hi all,

thank you for all the interest. Together with the other people already 
in the project we'll be able to make a good example how fast a score 
can grow :-)


I'll give more details when I'm back from holidays (very soon 
unfortunately), only a few cpmments for now (sorry for bot threading 
that properly).


The material to work with is significantly better than what you have now.

Any amount of contribution is welcome. You just have to take into 
account the effort of setting everything up and getting acquainted 
with the project.


Musicological expertise is not required. Nor are programming skills.

One works with files containing one voice for one rehearsal mark. That 
reduces waiting times for recompilation..
It seems best to enter all voices for a rehearsal mark in one unit of 
work. That way one can make most use of copy and paste as there is 
much duplication of voices in the score.


The piece hasn't been performed in the last 100 or so years - so no, 
there is no recording. But I can (privately) share some other 
recordings to get into the mood of the music.
(The concert we're preparing this for will be recorded and broadcast 
in the radio btw).


That's what comes to my mind for now - kids urgently need me in the 
water :-)


Best
Urs

On 22. August 2014 11:32:26 MESZ, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net 
wrote:


Count me in for some work.
Are the scans really that bad? I often use scanning to create
musicXML, and this will clearly not work here: but I'm not
convinced I could even get the notes with the patent Holmes eye
scan method?
I'm also presuming from your comments that there's no music to
listen to that could be used to check the work?

--
Phil Holmes

- Original Message -
*From:* Urs Liska mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
*To:* lilypond-user mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org
*Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:31 PM
*Subject:* Crowd engraving project

Hi all,

this has been discussed before, but now's the time to repeat
the call for participation for our crowd engraving project
with Das trunkne Lied, a large scale orchestral work by
Oskar Fried.

We are looking for people to enter and proofread music in a
peer review workflow and who are interested in discussing and
experiencing a proof-of-concept crowd engraving project.

We expect some experience with LilyPond and romantic
orchestral music. Our workflows are based on Git and some
related concepts so you should either know that or are willing
to learn it on the job. This is definitely possible but we
won't be able to do too much hand-holding.

There are two targets to meet: we should deliver audio files
for the choir and soloists by end of September and
instrumental parts by the end of the year. So far it is only
targeted at usable and not publication quality.
The music comprises 90 segments (respectively rehearsal
marks), and one usually has to deal with only one instrument /
one segment at once).

This is a paid job - but please don't expect this to be
anywhere near appropriate. We're doing this as a proof of
concept, for an amateur orchestra.

You can