Re: Breathing marks

[Robin Bannister]

On 23.08.2014 18:34, Robin Bannister wrote:


you have to start wrestling with
- breathing sign placement in break-align-orders


This can get very unwieldly,
which always makes the deprecated custos trick very tempting.

See the (by now unfamiliar)
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-01/msg00196.html


Cheers,
Robin

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Re: Breathing marks

[Robin Bannister]

Phil Holmes wrote:


I don't _think_ it's the same.


I meant just the break-visibility aspect:

adding only
 >  \once \override BreathingSign.break-visibility = #all-visible
gets you the initial "3" showing.

But then the placement will probably not satisfy you;
you have to start wrestling with
  - breathing sign placement in break-align-orders
  - spacing between timesignature and breathing sign
as exemplified in
Snippets > Printing a repeat sign at the beginning of a piece


Cheers,
Robin

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Re: hanging tie

[Alberto Simões]

On 23/08/14, 16:37, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Phil,


I believe this is covered in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#ties


Not really, as far as I can tell…  =\

But I believe this snippet does what the OP wants:


Hope that helps!


It does!
Thank you :-)

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Re: Compound Signature [SOLVED]

[Alberto Simões]

Hello,


But not it is showing:
   could not find this grob's vertical axis group in the vertical alignment

What is wrong? What changed?

Thank you
Alberto

- // -

% use as
%   \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #(compound-time "2"
"3" "4")
#(define ((compound-time one two num) grob)
   (grob-interpret-markup grob
 (markup #:override '(baseline-skip . 0) #:number
   (#:line (
   (#:column (one num))
   #:vcenter "+"
   (#:column (two num)))


I do not use this macro that often, and I forgot I need to issue a \time 
after it for it to work:


\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #(compound-time "6" 
"9" "8")

\time 6/8

And it works.

Thank you
Alberto


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Re: Breathing marks

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Here's some ideas as workaround.
Just in case.

\version "2.18.2"

\relative c'' {
  \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { 3 }
  \override BreathingSign.Y-offset = #-1
  \tweak stencil #(lambda (grob)
  (grob-interpret-markup grob #{ \markup\lower #1 { 3 } #}))
  r8 r4*5/6 \breathe r \breathe r
  r4
}

myRest = {
  \tweak stencil #(lambda (grob)
  (grob-interpret-markup grob #{
\markup { \lower #1 "3" \musicglyph #"rests.2" } #}))
   \tweak X-extent #'(2 . 3)
   r4
}

\relative c'' {
  \myRest \myRest \myRest r
}

My two pence...
Pierre
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Re: Breathing marks

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Bannister" 

To: "Phil Holmes" ; 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Breathing marks



Phil Holmes wrote:

we only get two threes: the initial one is missing.  Is there a better 
way

of providing the 3 mark, or an override I'm missing?


This is like
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-02/msg00059.html


I don't _think_ it's the same.  I'm more assuming it's because Lily assumes 
you don't breathe before the start of the music.  I've tried the following, 
with no improvement:


\relative c'' {
\once \override Score.LeftEdge.break-visibility = #all-visible
\override BreathingSign.break-align-symbols = #'(left-edge)
\override BreathingSign.text = \markup { 3 }
\override BreathingSign.Y-offset = #-1
\breathe r \breathe r \breathe r
}

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Re: hanging tie

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Phil,

> I believe this is covered in
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#ties

Not really, as far as I can tell…  =\

But I believe this snippet does what the OP wants:


Hope that helps!
Kieren.
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Re: hanging tie

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Alberto Simões" 

To: "lilypond" 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:19 PM
Subject: hanging tie



Hello,

In a music with repeats, I have a tie from the last note from the first
alternative, that should be drawn hanging.

In the picture, the note with the arrow is the one that misses the
hanging tie. In the upper Staff you can see the note it ties to.

What is the best way to achieve this?

Thank you
ambs


I believe this is covered in

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#ties

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Re: Compound Signature

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Alberto Simões" 

To: "lilypond" 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:56 PM
Subject: Compound Signature



Hello

I used the snippet bellow to produce "compound" signatures, like  "6-9/8".

But not it is showing:
  could not find this grob's vertical axis group in the vertical alignment

What is wrong? What changed?


Perhaps you should mention the version it was working with, and the version 
you now have?


Anyway, does "Compound time signatures" at

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms

not do what you want?

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hanging tie

[Alberto Simões]

Hello,

In a music with repeats, I have a tie from the last note from the first 
alternative, that should be drawn hanging.


In the picture, the note with the arrow is the one that misses the 
hanging tie. In the upper Staff you can see the note it ties to.


What is the best way to achieve this?

Thank you
ambs
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Re: Breathing marks

[Robin Bannister]

Phil Holmes wrote:


we only get two threes: the initial one is missing.  Is there a better way
of providing the 3 mark, or an override I'm missing?


This is like
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-02/msg00059.html


Cheers,
Robin

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Compound Signature

[Alberto Simões]

Hello

I used the snippet bellow to produce "compound" signatures, like  "6-9/8".

But not it is showing:
  could not find this grob's vertical axis group in the vertical alignment

What is wrong? What changed?

Thank you
Alberto

- // -

% use as
%   \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #(compound-time "2" 
"3" "4")

#(define ((compound-time one two num) grob)
  (grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup #:override '(baseline-skip . 0) #:number
  (#:line (
  (#:column (one num))
  #:vcenter "+"
  (#:column (two num)))

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Breathing marks

[Phil Holmes]

It seems a common use of the breath mark to create other markup within the 
stave: for example the finalis in Gregorian music.  I have been using it 
to place a 3 before rests in Mensural music, to signify triple time.  
However, I now have a rest of this sort that comes at the start of a 
piece, and it would appear that LilyPond does not allow a breath mark to 
start a piece.  In the example:

\relative c'' { 
  \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { 3 }
  \override BreathingSign.Y-offset = #-1
  \breathe r \breathe r \breathe r
}

we only get two threes: the initial one is missing.  Is there a better way 
of providing the 3 mark, or an override I'm missing?

Thanks.


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Re: Fighting with \cadenzaOn (and loosing :( )

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Son_V" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:20 PM
Subject: Fighting with \cadenzaOn (and loosing :( )



Hi all, sorry for my newbyism, maybe I just know about 10% (at most) of
LilyPond, but I can't leave it because of the wonderfful graphical output
...
I made a score of a Gregorian chant as I've seen on the web using modern
notation; using Musescore it was easy to say that a beat should not be 4/4
but sometimes a 13/8 or 9/8; I exported it to an .xml file and succeeded 
in

making it as I would using \cadenzaOn, gaining a score with the a-capo I
wished,  BUT it was just a one voice score. Now I'm fighting with a SATB
version of the same score (In Paradisum deducant te Angeli), and can't
reaally succeed to make it look as I would. I'm inserting \break \bar "|"
but it doesn't work as I wouldI made a lot of tryings but with no success.
Can anyone work on my file to make it correct and explain me what i'm 
doing

wrong? Many thanks.



When you have a multi-staff (probably actually multi-voice) piece, there 
must be a a point where the music is not continuous in all parts for 
lilypond to find somewhere to put line breaks.  So, for example, if you had 
one voice singing half-note then a full string of whole notes, and the other 
just singing whole notes, there would be no-where for lilypond to break, 
since one voice is always active at any moment.


So: check you've got all the note lengths correct: there is almost certainly 
a cadence point where all the voices pause.


If you can't see a problem, feel free to mail your lilypond file and scan of 
music direct to me and I'll take a look.


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Fighting with \cadenzaOn (and loosing :( )

[Son_V]

Hi all, sorry for my newbyism, maybe I just know about 10% (at most) of
LilyPond, but I can't leave it because of the wonderfful graphical output
... 
I made a score of a Gregorian chant as I've seen on the web using modern
notation; using Musescore it was easy to say that a beat should not be 4/4
but sometimes a 13/8 or 9/8; I exported it to an .xml file and succeeded in
making it as I would using \cadenzaOn, gaining a score with the a-capo I
wished,  BUT it was just a one voice score. Now I'm fighting with a SATB
version of the same score (In Paradisum deducant te Angeli), and can't
reaally succeed to make it look as I would. I'm inserting \break \bar "|"
but it doesn't work as I wouldI made a lot of tryings but with no success.
Can anyone work on my file to make it correct and explain me what i'm doing
wrong? Many thanks.



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