New bug tracker?

[Javier Ruiz-Alma]

Is there a new bug tracker for Lilypond?

LP site still points to the now-read-only tracker:

http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html

 

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Re: Analysis brackets with text [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[Paul Morris]

Oh, one other thing I noticed.  There seems to be no way to have one bracket 
end at a note and another bracket start at that same note. ("warning: 
conflicting note group events”)  I tried spacer rests, but no luck.  It seems 
the start or end of a group cannot be a spacer rest.  Anyway, I thought I'd 
mention this, FWIW.

Cheers,
-Paul
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Re: Analysis brackets with text [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[Mike Solomon]

My go-to solution (which is hackish) has been to create a tuplet over spacer 
rests and change the tuplet number text. 
Cheers,MS


Sent from my Samsung device

 Original message 
From: Paul Morris  
Date: 31/08/2015  05:32  (GMT+02:00) 
To: David Nalesnik  
Cc: lilypond-user Mailinglist  
Subject: Re: Analysis brackets with text [was: how to get notes without tails?] 

Hi David,

That’s great that markups already work (I should have tried it before assuming 
they didn’t).  The plan for HorizontalBracketText sounds even better.  

Thanks again,
-Paul


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Re: Analysis brackets with text [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[Paul Morris]

Hi David,

That’s great that markups already work (I should have tried it before assuming 
they didn’t).  The plan for HorizontalBracketText sounds even better.  

Thanks again,
-Paul


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centerPaperColumn

[Víctor]

Dear David and lilyponders:

I'm glad to see that you are around here again, so now I hope it 
will be not much of a trouble if ask you to take a look to the 
aforementioned problem with the ties and centered notes. For those who 
don't know what I'm talking about, David Nalesnik programed a very 
useful function that centers notes when they occupy the whole measure. 
The problem seems to be that tie's length is not recalculated after the 
note column has been moved; and since my scheme-fu is very basic, I just 
can't fix this myself.


See attachments for minimum example and output.

Thanks and best regards,
Víctor.


\version "2.19.15"

#(define center-column
   (lambda (col)
 (let* ((sys (ly:grob-system col))
(all-cols
 (ly:grob-array->list
  (ly:grob-object sys 'columns)))
(measure-no
 (car (ly:grob-property col 'rhythmic-location)))
; we need to find out if there is another
; PaperColumn in the measure.  If there is,
; we make no adjustments.
(in-company?
 ; is there a column...
 (any
  (lambda (c)
(and
 ; which is NOT our column...
 (not (eq? col c))
 ; which is a PaperColumn...
 (not (eq? #t (ly:grob-property c 'non-musical)))
 ; which is in the same measure
 (eq?
  (car (ly:grob-property c 'rhythmic-location))
  measure-no)))
  all-cols))
(alone? (not in-company?))) ; 
   (if alone?
   (let* ((left-col (ly:grob-object col 'left-neighbor))
  (right-col (ly:grob-object col 'right-neighbor))
  (elts-list
   (ly:grob-array->list (ly:grob-object col 'elements)))
  (note-cols
   (filter
(lambda (elt)
  (grob::has-interface elt 'note-column-interface))
elts-list))
  (all-rests
   (map (lambda (c)
  (ly:grob-object c 'rest))
 note-cols))
  (all-rests (filter ly:grob? all-rests))
  (all-notes
   (map
(lambda (c)
  (ly:grob-object c 'note-heads))
note-cols))
  (all 
   (map (lambda (ga) 
  (if (ly:grob-array? ga)
  (ly:grob-array->list ga)
  '()))
 all-notes))
  (all (flatten-list all))
  (all (append all all-rests))
  (same-dur?
   (every (lambda (o) 
(equal?
 (ly:grob-property o 'duration-log)
 (ly:grob-property (car all)
   'duration-log)))
 all)))
 (if same-dur?
 (let* ((col-center (interval-center
 (ly:grob-extent col sys X)))
(left-right-X
 (cdr (ly:grob-extent left-col sys X)))
(right-left-X
 (car (ly:grob-extent right-col sys X)))
(middle-X
 (- (average left-right-X right-left-X)
   col-center)))
   (ly:grob-translate-axis! col middle-X X

centerSolitaryPaperColumn =
\override Score.PaperColumn.after-line-breaking = #center-column

\score{
  <<
\new Staff \relative c' { \time 3/4 \repeat unfold 9 f4 \break f2.~ f4 \repeat unfold 7 f4 f~ f2. }
\new Staff \relative c' { \time 3/4 \repeat unfold 9 f4 \break f2.~ f4 \repeat unfold 7 f4 f~ f2. }
  >>
}

\layout{
  \centerSolitaryPaperColumn
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Re: Analysis brackets with text [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[David Nalesnik]

Hi Paul,

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Paul Morris  wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> On Aug 30, 2015, at 3:16 PM, David Nalesnik 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> LilyPond already has the ability to make analysis brackets, which are
>> attached to note columns and can nest as in the link (HorizontalBracket).
>> I have an old patch for adding text to these that I will finish up and
>> post.  (I have code for doing this in Scheme, but my approach now is an
>> enhancement of the C++ engraver.)
>>
>
> The attached file is what I used to use when making form handouts.
>
>
> This is great!  – both the analysis brackets (which I didn’t know about
> before) and your code for text labels for them.  I’ve often resorted to
> using Inkscape to add this kind of thing to LilyPond SVGs.
>
> In trying out your code I noticed that it didn’t really work when the text
> was wider than the bracket (the bracket was pushed over out of place).  So
> I came up with a revision that handles this, using the
> “center-stencil-on-stencil” function I recently contributed to the LSR.
> See attached.
>

Good catch.  Thanks!


>
> Would be nice to have this in the LSR, at least.  It also might be nice if
> it could accept a markup instead of a string, so you could change the
> appearance of the text (size, color, style, etc.).
>
>
Actually, you can.  The syntax is just a little awkward, though:

 gluck = \relative c'' {
  \time 3/4
  \key f \major
  \override HorizontalBracket.direction = #UP
  c4-\tweak stencil #(label #{ \markup \italic \center-column {
"contrasting" "period" } #}
   #{ \markup \italic \center-column { "period"
"(cont.)" } #})
  \startGroup
  -\tweak stencil #(label "a" "a" )\startGroup
  a8( bes c f)
  f4( e d)
  c d8( c bes c)
  \appoggiatura bes4 a2 g4 \stopGroup
  %\break
  f'8-\tweak stencil #(label "b" "b")\startGroup r a, r d r
  c4( e, f)
  g8( bes) a4 g8( f)
  f2 \stopGroup \stopGroup r4
}

%%%

The plan at the moment is to create a grob HorizontalBracketText.  That
will allow easy use of markups through overrides of a 'text property:

\override HorizontalBracketText.text = \markup ...

and tweakability.

Best,
David
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Analysis brackets with text [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[Paul Morris]

Hi David,On Aug 30, 2015, at 3:16 PM, David Nalesnik  wrote:LilyPond already has the ability to make analysis brackets, which are attached to note columns and can nest as in the link (HorizontalBracket).  I have an old patch for adding text to these that I will finish up and post.  (I have code for doing this in Scheme, but my approach now is an enhancement of the C++ engraver.)The attached file is what I used to use when making form handouts.This is great!  – both the analysis brackets (which I didn’t know about before) and your code for text labels for them.  I’ve often resorted to using Inkscape to add this kind of thing to LilyPond SVGs.In trying out your code I noticed that it didn’t really work when the text was wider than the bracket (the bracket was pushed over out of place).  So I came up with a revision that handles this, using the “center-stencil-on-stencil” function I recently contributed to the LSR.  See attached.Would be nice to have this in the LSR, at least.  It also might be nice if it could accept a markup instead of a string, so you could change the appearance of the text (size, color, style, etc.).Best,-Paul

analysis-bracket-text-2.ly
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Re: Glossary index [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[Trevor Daniels]

David Kastrup wrote Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:27 PM

> "Trevor Daniels"  writes:

>> Simon Albrecht wrote Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:58 PM
>>>
>>> Am 30.08.2015 um 21:52 schrieb Trevor Daniels:

 It would be a great help, I think, to add all the non-English terms to the
 Glossary Index.  That would be easy to do, but very laborious and
 time-consuming.  Just needs someone to do it 
>>>
>>> Or someone with the proficiency and time to write a script?
>>
>> Actually I don't think that would be very difficult.
>>
>> A typical entry header looks like this:
>>
>> @node acciaccatura
>> @section acciaccatura
>>
>> ES: mordente de una nota,
>> I: acciaccatura,
>> F: acciaccatura, appoggiature brève,
>> D: Zusammenschlag,
>> NL: samenslag,
>> DK: ?,
>> S: ?,
>> FI: ?.
>>
>> The script would need to extract the rest of each line beginning
>> @section, ES:, I: etc.  Remove duplicates, remove ?s, and
>> for each of the remainder insert a new line containing that extract
>> prefixed by @cindex.  Repeat for the next @node.>
>
> It would probably make sense to create separate indices for every
> language.

Yes, that would make sense if all the languages were equally
populated, but many (most?) of the entries are similar to the
one above, with no word for DK, S, and FI.  In this case a
combined entry would have the advantage that a user searching
for a non-existent word might recognise one of the words in
another language, which would appear close to where he was
looking.  Adding the country code in brackets after the entry
would be easy and useful.

Trevor
  
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Re: Print Double Percent Repeat inside a markup

[Caio Giovaneti de Barros]

On 29-08-2015 21:56, Thomas Morley wrote:
If you want to stick to LilyPond's markup-commands, I'd suggest to 
split construction into steps otherwise it's confusing.

Awesome!

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Re: Glossary index [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[David Kastrup]

"Trevor Daniels"  writes:

> Simon Albrecht wrote Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:58 PM
>>
>> Am 30.08.2015 um 21:52 schrieb Trevor Daniels:
>>>
>>> It would be a great help, I think, to add all the non-English terms to the
>>> Glossary Index.  That would be easy to do, but very laborious and
>>> time-consuming.  Just needs someone to do it 
>>
>> Or someone with the proficiency and time to write a script?
>
> Actually I don't think that would be very difficult.
>
> A typical entry header looks like this:
>
> @node acciaccatura
> @section acciaccatura
>
> ES: mordente de una nota,
> I: acciaccatura,
> F: acciaccatura, appoggiature brève,
> D: Zusammenschlag,
> NL: samenslag,
> DK: ?,
> S: ?,
> FI: ?.
>
> The script would need to extract the rest of each line beginning
> @section, ES:, I: etc.  Remove duplicates, remove ?s, and
> for each of the remainder insert a new line containing that extract
> prefixed by @cindex.  Repeat for the next @node.

It would probably make sense to create separate indices for every
language.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: Glossary index [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 30.08.2015 um 22:42 schrieb Trevor Daniels:

Simon Albrecht wrote Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:58 PM

Am 30.08.2015 um 21:52 schrieb Trevor Daniels:

It would be a great help, I think, to add all the non-English terms to the
Glossary Index.  That would be easy to do, but very laborious and
time-consuming.  Just needs someone to do it 

Or someone with the proficiency and time to write a script?

Actually I don't think that would be very difficult.

A typical entry header looks like this:

@node acciaccatura
@section acciaccatura

ES: mordente de una nota,
I: acciaccatura,
F: acciaccatura, appoggiature brève,
D: Zusammenschlag,
NL: samenslag,
DK: ?,
S: ?,
FI: ?.

The script would need to extract the rest of each line beginning
@section, ES:, I: etc.  Remove duplicates, remove ?s, and
for each of the remainder insert a new line containing that extract
prefixed by @cindex.  Repeat for the next @node.


And this should be part of the build process, then. Pythoneers forward…
Regards, Simon

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Glossary index [was: how to get notes without tails?]

[Trevor Daniels]

Simon Albrecht wrote Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:58 PM
>
> Am 30.08.2015 um 21:52 schrieb Trevor Daniels:
>>
>> It would be a great help, I think, to add all the non-English terms to the
>> Glossary Index.  That would be easy to do, but very laborious and
>> time-consuming.  Just needs someone to do it 
>
> Or someone with the proficiency and time to write a script?

Actually I don't think that would be very difficult.

A typical entry header looks like this:

@node acciaccatura
@section acciaccatura

ES: mordente de una nota,
I: acciaccatura,
F: acciaccatura, appoggiature brève,
D: Zusammenschlag,
NL: samenslag,
DK: ?,
S: ?,
FI: ?.

The script would need to extract the rest of each line beginning
@section, ES:, I: etc.  Remove duplicates, remove ?s, and
for each of the remainder insert a new line containing that extract
prefixed by @cindex.  Repeat for the next @node.

Trevor
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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 30.08.2015 um 21:52 schrieb Trevor Daniels:

Blöchl Bernhard wrote Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:56 PM


Well, the glossary is a nice hint. But have you considered that the
glossary is only available in English? So that a not anglophone could
not find an expression she/he does not know! (Just the case for me.)

That deficiency has long been recognised, although the primary purpose of
the glossary was originally to help non-English speakers to understand
the English language docs, before translations became available.
  

It could help, if there is a parallel glossary in another mothertongue.
This is not the case, as there is only an English version - AFAIK. Do
you really think, a non English speaker will find a word in an English
glossary one does not know?

It would be a great help, I think, to add all the non-English terms to the
Glossary Index.  That would be easy to do, but very laborious and
time-consuming.  Just needs someone to do it 

Or someone with the proficiency and time to write a script?

Yours, Simon


Trevor



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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Trevor Daniels]

Blöchl Bernhard wrote Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:56 PM

> Well, the glossary is a nice hint. But have you considered that the 
> glossary is only available in English? So that a not anglophone could 
> not find an expression she/he does not know! (Just the case for me.)

That deficiency has long been recognised, although the primary purpose of
the glossary was originally to help non-English speakers to understand
the English language docs, before translations became available.
 
> It could help, if there is a parallel glossary in another mothertongue. 
> This is not the case, as there is only an English version - AFAIK. Do 
> you really think, a non English speaker will find a word in an English 
> glossary one does not know?

It would be a great help, I think, to add all the non-English terms to the
Glossary Index.  That would be easy to do, but very laborious and
time-consuming.  Just needs someone to do it 

Trevor
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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 30.08.2015 um 21:32 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard:

Am 30.08.2015 21:11, schrieb Simon Albrecht:

Am 30.08.2015 um 20:56 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard:


It could help, if there is a parallel glossary in another 
mothertongue. This is not the case, as there is only an English 
version - AFAIK. Do you really think, a non English speaker will 
find a word in an English glossary one does not know?


I’d recommend going to

and searching the term you want using your browser (CTRL+F in
firefox).


Indeed I can find "Notenhals" in this document! Hindsight is easier 
than foresight.




Beside all that, language is a malleable like Plasticine, that is 
true especially for English, as everybody must speak English, even 
if one does not know it (just my case). That is the price of the 
English for the "lingua franca" of our days! But obviously there are 
musical sectors that use "tail" instead of "stem" - would you say it 
is absolutely wrong or really incomprehensible?

It’s odd and difficult to understand to not use the standard term.
Realize that measure and bar mean the same in different (english 
speaking) areas of our world.

Agreed. I use these quite interchangeably – which is supported by the
LP glossary, by the way.


There is not one, but are TWO standard terms!

Please do not overemphasize my mails as any offence.


I didn’t! please don’t worry :-)
Yours, Simon


There are language problems in a global society.



Yours, Simon



Kind regards,
BB





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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Blöchl Bernhard]

Am 30.08.2015 21:11, schrieb Simon Albrecht:

Am 30.08.2015 um 20:56 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard:


It could help, if there is a parallel glossary in another 
mothertongue. This is not the case, as there is only an English 
version - AFAIK. Do you really think, a non English speaker will find 
a word in an English glossary one does not know?


I’d recommend going to

and searching the term you want using your browser (CTRL+F in
firefox).


Indeed I can find "Notenhals" in this document! Hindsight is easier than 
foresight.




Beside all that, language is a malleable like Plasticine, that is true 
especially for English, as everybody must speak English, even if one 
does not know it (just my case). That is the price of the English for 
the "lingua franca" of our days! But obviously there are musical 
sectors that use "tail" instead of "stem" - would you say it is 
absolutely wrong or really incomprehensible?

It’s odd and difficult to understand to not use the standard term.
Realize that measure and bar mean the same in different (english 
speaking) areas of our world.

Agreed. I use these quite interchangeably – which is supported by the
LP glossary, by the way.


There is not one, but are TWO standard terms!

Please do not overemphasize my mails as any offence. There are language 
problems in a global society.




Yours, Simon



Kind regards,
BB



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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[David Nalesnik]

Hi,

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 1:40 PM, David Nalesnik 
wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> Greetings All,
>>
>> Not that it is relevant to the OP’s question in any way, but I can’t help
>> noticing out that this didactic example makes copious use of horizontal
>> bracket spanners with centred text on every note - the very thing that I am
>> currently working on. They’re everywhere. :-)
>>
>>
> LilyPond already has the ability to make analysis brackets, which are
> attached to note columns and can nest as in the link (HorizontalBracket).
> I have an old patch for adding text to these that I will finish up and
> post.  (I have code for doing this in Scheme, but my approach now is an
> enhancement of the C++ engraver.)
>

The attached file is what I used to use when making form handouts.

David
\version "2.19.25"



%% A function to add labels to analysis brackets.  Allows for different text
%% if broken between staves.
%%
%% Use with \tweak.  For example: -\tweak #'stencil #(label "antecedent" "ant." "")
%% This will add "antecedent" to the bracket if unbroken (or to the first piece, if
%% broken), "ant." to the first broken piece, and an empty string to the next piece
%% (if there is one).  If no "" were specified, all pieces after the first would be
%% labelled "ant."



#(define (add-label grob text)
   ;; adapted from LSR snippet, "Center text below hairpin dynamics"
   (ly:stencil-aligned-to
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
 (ly:stencil-aligned-to (ly:horizontal-bracket::print grob) X CENTER)
 Y (ly:grob-property grob 'direction)
 (ly:stencil-aligned-to (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup text)) X CENTER)
 0.2)
X LEFT))

#(define ((label . text) grob)
   (let* ((orig (ly:grob-original grob))
  (siblings (if (ly:grob? orig)
(ly:spanner-broken-into orig)
'(

 (define (helper text siblings)
   ;; step through the pieces to find the current one, and modify its stencil
   (if (eq? (car siblings) grob)
   (add-label grob (car text))
   (if (or (null? (cdr siblings))
   (null? (cdr text)))
   (add-label grob (car text)) ;; if not enough text for pieces, use last given
   (helper (cdr text) (cdr siblings)

 (if (pair? siblings)
 (helper text siblings)
 (add-label grob (car text)

gluck = \relative c'' {
  \time 3/4
  \key f \major
  \override HorizontalBracket.direction = #UP
  c4-\tweak stencil #(label "contrasting period" "contrasting period")\startGroup
  -\tweak stencil #(label "a" "a" )\startGroup
  a8( bes c f)
  f4( e d)
  c d8( c bes c)
  \appoggiatura bes4 a2 g4 \stopGroup
  f'8-\tweak stencil #(label "b" "b")\startGroup r a, r d r
  c4( e, f)
  g8( bes) a4 g8( f)
  f2 \stopGroup \stopGroup r4
  \bar "||"
}

\score {
  \new Staff \gluck
  \layout {
\context {
  \Voice
  \consists "Horizontal_bracket_engraver"
}
  }
}
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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 30.08.2015 um 20:56 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard:


It could help, if there is a parallel glossary in another 
mothertongue. This is not the case, as there is only an English 
version - AFAIK. Do you really think, a non English speaker will find 
a word in an English glossary one does not know?


I’d recommend going to 
 
and searching the term you want using your browser (CTRL+F in firefox).


Beside all that, language is a malleable like Plasticine, that is true 
especially for English, as everybody must speak English, even if one 
does not know it (just my case). That is the price of the English for 
the "lingua franca" of our days! But obviously there are musical 
sectors that use "tail" instead of "stem" - would you say it is 
absolutely wrong or really incomprehensible?

It’s odd and difficult to understand to not use the standard term.
Realize that measure and bar mean the same in different (english 
speaking) areas of our world.
Agreed. I use these quite interchangeably – which is supported by the LP 
glossary, by the way.


Yours, Simon

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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Thomas Morley]

2015-08-30 20:56 GMT+02:00 Blöchl Bernhard :
> Am 30.08.2015 19:53, schrieb Simon Albrecht:
>>
>> Am 30.08.2015 um 18:39 schrieb BB:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30.08.2015 16:47, Malte Meyn wrote:

 Am 30.08.2015 um 16:20 schrieb BB:
>
> I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like
> notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?
>
> (As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)
>

 The ‘tails’ you probably mean are called stems. You can remove them:

 \omit Stem

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>>>
>>> Thank you for helping!
>>>
>>> Indeed I meant "stem". Concerning to dict.cc (almost always correct)
>>> "tail" is also in use.
>>
>>
>> Maybe in some very specific (paleographic?) context? In general
>> they’re definitely always called Stems. We also have a LilyPond
>> Glossary (found on the manuals page), which might be more reliable
>> when it comes to specific notational terminology.
>>
>> Yours, Simon
>
>
> Well, the glossary is a nice hint. But have you considered that the glossary
> is only available in English? So that a not anglophone could not find an
> expression she/he does not know! (Just the case for me.)
>
> It could help, if there is a parallel glossary in another mothertongue. This
> is not the case, as there is only an English version - AFAIK. Do you really
> think, a non English speaker will find a word in an English glossary one
> does not know?

Try to do a search with your browser for "Hals" or "Notenhals" and
you'll immediately find stem (ofcourse using the big-page or the pdf
not the splitted html).
Overall the translations are not complete, likely because of a lack of
contributors^^, I doubt this will be different for a german glossary.

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Blöchl Bernhard]

Am 30.08.2015 19:53, schrieb Simon Albrecht:

Am 30.08.2015 um 18:39 schrieb BB:



On 30.08.2015 16:47, Malte Meyn wrote:

Am 30.08.2015 um 16:20 schrieb BB:

I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like
notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?

(As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)



The ‘tails’ you probably mean are called stems. You can remove them:

\omit Stem

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Thank you for helping!

Indeed I meant "stem". Concerning to dict.cc (almost always correct) 
"tail" is also in use.


Maybe in some very specific (paleographic?) context? In general
they’re definitely always called Stems. We also have a LilyPond
Glossary (found on the manuals page), which might be more reliable
when it comes to specific notational terminology.

Yours, Simon


Well, the glossary is a nice hint. But have you considered that the 
glossary is only available in English? So that a not anglophone could 
not find an expression she/he does not know! (Just the case for me.)


It could help, if there is a parallel glossary in another mothertongue. 
This is not the case, as there is only an English version - AFAIK. Do 
you really think, a non English speaker will find a word in an English 
glossary one does not know?


Beside all that, language is a malleable like Plasticine, that is true 
especially for English, as everybody must speak English, even if one 
does not know it (just my case). That is the price of the English for 
the "lingua franca" of our days! But obviously there are musical sectors 
that use "tail" instead of "stem" - would you say it is absolutely wrong 
or really incomprehensible? Realize that measure and bar mean the same 
in different (english speaking) areas of our world.


I do not have any problems with this, just a feed to think about.

And to add a remark: Would be nice to have a gerrman lilipond glossary.

Kind regards



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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[David Nalesnik]

Andrew,

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

> Greetings All,
>
> Not that it is relevant to the OP’s question in any way, but I can’t help
> noticing out that this didactic example makes copious use of horizontal
> bracket spanners with centred text on every note - the very thing that I am
> currently working on. They’re everywhere. :-)
>
>
LilyPond already has the ability to make analysis brackets, which are
attached to note columns and can nest as in the link (HorizontalBracket).
I have an old patch for adding text to these that I will finish up and
post.  (I have code for doing this in Scheme, but my approach now is an
enhancement of the C++ engraver.)

Best,
David
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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Blöchl Bernhard]

Indeed I would highly appreciate horizontal bracket spanners! So I wish 
success and thank you in advance for your work on this. Tuplet brackets 
are already in use. Actually \tuplet, former \times, may be on could 
enhance that feature?


Regards


Am 30.08.2015 18:08, schrieb Andrew Bernard:

Greetings All,

Not that it is relevant to the OP’s question in any way, but I can’t
help noticing out that this didactic example makes copious use of
horizontal bracket spanners with centred text on every note - the very
thing that I am currently working on. They’re everywhere. :-)

Andrew





On 31/08/2015 00:20, "BB"
 wrote:


I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like
notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?

(As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)

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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Thomas Morley]

2015-08-30 20:07 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
> Thomas Morley  writes:
>
>> Apropos Glossary.
>> Quite nice and too less known!
>>
>> But I just found there:
>> f-flat = e
>> and others of this kind
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/music-glossary/pitch-names
>>
>> Simply wrong.
>
> Huh.  \equiv maybe?  I don't think there is some mathematical sign for
> "same frequency in equally-tempered tuning"...


As you said
"same _frequency_ in equally-tempered tuning"
and only with this addendum.
But the notes themselves are not equal in any sense, at least in every
tonal music.
Nobody would accept  as a major-chord.

Although I have to admit having seen  as gis-major-chord in
a printed edition already.
I've thrown it away immediately.

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Re: interesting implementation detail of \partcombine

[Keith OHara]

Mike Solomon  mikesolomon.org> writes:

> 
> I just realized that when one uses spacer rests instead of full-measure 
rests in a voice that is being part combined, if there are full-measure rests 
in the other voice, those rests will be shifted up.Not a biggie, but perhaps 
it should be documented if it is intended behavior or fixed to work like full-
measure rests if intended behavior.  What do people think?
> 
> foo = {
>   R1 |
>   R1 |
>   a''1 |
> }
> 
> bar = {
>   s1 |
>   s1 |
>   f''1 |
> }
> 
> \new Staff \new \Voice \partcombine \foo \bar


Formerly, they were merged, but into a spacer or rest depending on 
which came first in the input file
http://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/261/

I argued that printing the rest to indicate its voice was the best
default choice because preserved the most information.
The 'bar' part above probably has some reason for using invisible rests, 
so we keep it separate by default;  we can \partCombineUnisono to merge.
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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[David Kastrup]

Thomas Morley  writes:

> Apropos Glossary.
> Quite nice and too less known!
>
> But I just found there:
> f-flat = e
> and others of this kind
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/music-glossary/pitch-names
>
> Simply wrong.

Huh.  \equiv maybe?  I don't think there is some mathematical sign for
"same frequency in equally-tempered tuning"...

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Thomas Morley]

2015-08-30 19:53 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht :
> Am 30.08.2015 um 18:39 schrieb BB:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30.08.2015 16:47, Malte Meyn wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 30.08.2015 um 16:20 schrieb BB:

 I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like
 notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?

 (As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)

>>>
>>> The ‘tails’ you probably mean are called stems. You can remove them:
>>>
>>> \omit Stem
>>>
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>>
>> Thank you for helping!
>>
>> Indeed I meant "stem". Concerning to dict.cc (almost always correct)
>> "tail" is also in use.
>
>
> Maybe in some very specific (paleographic?) context? In general they’re
> definitely always called Stems. We also have a LilyPond Glossary (found on
> the manuals page), which might be more reliable when it comes to specific
> notational terminology.
>
> Yours, Simon

Apropos Glossary.
Quite nice and too less known!

But I just found there:
f-flat = e
and others of this kind
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/music-glossary/pitch-names

Simply wrong.

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 30.08.2015 um 18:39 schrieb BB:



On 30.08.2015 16:47, Malte Meyn wrote:

Am 30.08.2015 um 16:20 schrieb BB:

I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like
notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?

(As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)



The ‘tails’ you probably mean are called stems. You can remove them:

\omit Stem

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Thank you for helping!

Indeed I meant "stem". Concerning to dict.cc (almost always correct) 
"tail" is also in use.


Maybe in some very specific (paleographic?) context? In general they’re 
definitely always called Stems. We also have a LilyPond Glossary (found 
on the manuals page), which might be more reliable when it comes to 
specific notational terminology.


Yours, Simon

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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[BB]

On 30.08.2015 16:47, Malte Meyn wrote:

Am 30.08.2015 um 16:20 schrieb BB:

I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like
notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?

(As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)



The ‘tails’ you probably mean are called stems. You can remove them:

\omit Stem

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Thank you for helping!

Indeed I meant "stem". Concerning to dict.cc (almost always correct) 
"tail" is also in use.


Reagards

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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Andrew Bernard]

Greetings All,

Not that it is relevant to the OP’s question in any way, but I can’t help 
noticing out that this didactic example makes copious use of horizontal bracket 
spanners with centred text on every note - the very thing that I am currently 
working on. They’re everywhere. :-)

Andrew





On 31/08/2015 00:20, "BB" 
 wrote:

>I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like 
>notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?
>
>(As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)
>
>Regards
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Re: how to get notes without tails?

[Malte Meyn]

Am 30.08.2015 um 16:20 schrieb BB:

I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like
notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?

(As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)



The ‘tails’ you probably mean are called stems. You can remove them:

\omit Stem

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how to get notes without tails?

[BB]

I actually do some work with arabic scales (maqamat) and would like 
notes without tails. Is there any switch in lilypond?


(As example see http://maqamworld.com/maqamat/bayati.html)

Regards

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