Re: Potential improvements to the homepage?

2016-08-26 Thread David Pirotte 
Hi Federico,

> Il giorno mer 24 ago 2016 alle 0:00, David Pirotte  ha 
> scritto:

> > The first thing, imo, would be to have these pages rewritten in 
> > scheme, Guile scheme
> > I mean of course :), with the portion of the code that holds the 
> > content being
> > expressed using sxml, see below for examples.  

> ... or rather strings in a scheme file? Here's a scary example:
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-artwork.git/tree/website/www/about.scm

From someone how can fluently read lily source code, scary? :) All lilypond 
users
know a bit of scheme right? :)

Don't be! You'll get use to it a lot faster then you think! It actually reads 
almost
as if it was English [and *nod* a lot easier then the corresponding html page], 
here
is a simplified example. The schema is the same for all pages:

  import
utils
shared

  define the page

  `(html (@ (lang "en"))
 ,(html-page-header "About");; defined in shared
 (body
  ,(html-page-description)  ;; dito
  ,(html-page-links);; dito

,(html-page-footer)))   ;; dito

The page content can be as simple as

  (div (@ (id "content-box"))
   (article
(h1 "About the Project")
(p "Lylipond is ...")))

The complexity of the content of a page is not due to sxml, but the the 
complexity of
page itself, to the complexity of its design and how much css tweaks you're 
using.

The hard work is in the design, the translation to guile scheme is relatively 
easy:
one of the lily maintainers should ask Luis if he'd be interested: and he is a
schemer to, he did the design for Guile's web-pages _and_ wrote the source code 
as
well ... 

David



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Re: Dynamic marks and vertical space

2016-08-26 Thread Malte Meyn 



Am 27.08.2016 um 01:24 schrieb Timofey Misarenkov:

(DynamicText.extra-offset can help to move, but
vertical space waste remains the same. And using same approach to move
\p and hairpin do not helps either.)


extra-offset only moves the visual appearance of a grob but doesn’t 
affect spacing so if you move the ff left spacing will be as if you 
hadn’t moved it.



So, the question is: how to make \ff to appear at the left of s ?


Instead of extra-offset, use X-offset and Y-offset (in this case, 
X-offset is sufficient). Are you sure it’s a "ff" and a "p" (separated) 
and not a "ffp" (combined)? Because there is no \ffp command in 
LilyPond, you can create one:

  ffp = #(make-dynamic-script "ffp")
Or use make-dynamic-script directly (see below).

If you start the hairpin directly at the ffp, it’s start will move to 
the left together with the ffp (remember: X-offset affects spacing ;)). 
To avoid that, just increase it’s bound-padding.



\version "2.18.2"

\score {
  \new GrandStaff <<
\new Staff = "up"  \relative c' {
  \clef treble
  4-> \repeat unfold 12 {16-.}
}

\new Dynamics = "dynamics" {
  % this moves the ffp to the left
  \once \override DynamicText.X-offset = -4.5
  % this increases the gap between ffp and start of hairpin
  \once \override Hairpin.bound-padding = 2.5
  s2...-#(make-dynamic-script "ffp")\< s16\! |
}

\new Staff = "down" \relative c, {
  \clef bass
  4-> \repeat unfold 12 {16-.}
}
  >>
  \layout {}
}


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Dynamic marks and vertical space

2016-08-26 Thread Timofey Misarenkov 
Hi.

The sample code below has one flaw: it wastes too much vertical space
due to \ff. In the real case its even worse, because of  has
duration of 1 and uses more space. I'm trying to move \ff to the left,
but unsuccessfully. (DynamicText.extra-offset can help to move, but
vertical space waste remains the same. And using same approach to move
\p and hairpin do not helps either.)

So, the question is: how to make \ff to appear at the left of s ?

\version "2.18.2"

\score {
  \new GrandStaff <<
\new Staff = "up"  \relative c' {
  \clef treble
  4-> \repeat unfold 12 {16-.}
}
\new Dynamics = "dynamics" { s8\ff s8\p\< s2 s8. s16\! |}
\new Staff = "down" \relative c, {
  \clef bass
  4-> \repeat unfold 12 {16-.}
}
  >>
  \layout {}
}

-- 
Timofey Misarenkov 

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Re: Switching to drummode and back

2016-08-26 Thread Robin Bannister 

If the leadsheet needed hi-hat only in a single measure
I wouldn't bother with drum mode:


\version "2.18.2"
\new Voice
  \with { \consists "Pitch_squash_engraver" } % for slash chords
{
  \key ees \major
  \time 6/4
  \repeat percent 4 \repeat unfold 2
  { r4. \once \stemUp \tweak style #'xcircle f''4. } % cymbal
  \improvisationOn
  \clef bass f1.
}


Cheers,
Robin

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LilyPond logo

2016-08-26 Thread Wilbert Berendsen 
Hi all,

I saw the recent dialog about LilyPond logo's. I created one several
years ago, and it is used in the LilyPond website (upper left).

http://lilypond.org/pictures/lily-home-32x32.png

The original (hand drawn in Inkscape by me, copying colors and shapes
from the photographed lily flower used as icon since long) is here:

https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/blob/master/frescobaldi_app/icons/lilypond-run.svg

It looks best at small sizes.


-- 
Wilbert Berendsen, musician
‣ mail: i...@wilbertberendsen.nl
‣ web: www.wilbertberendsen.nl
‣ phone: +31646122877

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Re: Potential improvements to the homepage?

2016-08-26 Thread Federico Bruni 
Il giorno mer 24 ago 2016 alle 19:13, Noeck  ha 
scritto:



 Last year we had this discussion:
 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2015-07/msg00105.html


And in this discussion, sort of agreed that the website (the first 
page
you look at and some few others) are different from all the docs and 
so

on. Switching the docs in all languages with the examples etc. from
texinfo to sth. else is daunting to say the least.


Even if this is a frequent misunderstanding, nobody ever thought about 
this possibility. The discussion was about switching the _website only_ 
to something else. Urs made a good (long) summary of the discussion 
here:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2015-07/msg00111.html

But for the front
page/website there is in principle a little bit more freedom if one 
has

a convincing alternative (with constraints still of course - and I am
sure many will appear here after this mail).

As I commented on the discussion last year, I think, a lot can be done
by a new html/css layout without necessarily switching much of how the
html content is produced. The front page should also be reconsidered.


Yes, it's possible but it requires a lot of work: you'll probably have 
to work also on texinfo files (at least to add/remove html divs) and 
perhaps on the texi2html init file (written in perl).


At the moment, I think that the best approach is changing small things. 
The best concrete proposal I've seen in this discussion is the one from 
Paul (who is also the person who contributed more to doc and website 
style in the last year and something).





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Re: Switching to drummode and back

2016-08-26 Thread Sven Hillebrand 

Thank you very much :-)
That's what I needed.

here the tiny example which actually matches the picture:
\version "2.18.2"
\new Staff \with {
  \accepts DrumStaff
} {
  \time 12/8
  \clef bass
  \repeat unfold 12 {b,8}
  \clef percussion
  \drums \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver }{
  \repeat percent 4 {r4._"Vox & Drums only - HH on 2 & 4" hh4. r4. hh4. }
  }\noBreak
  \clef bass
  d1.
 }

regards
Sven

On 26.08.2016 11:42, Malte Meyn wrote:



Am 26.08.2016 um 11:40 schrieb Malte Meyn:

\version "2.18.2"

\new Staff \with {
  \accepts DrumStaff
} {
  \repeat unfold 8 {e''8}
  \drums {


I forgot
\once \omit DrumStaff.TimeSignature
here.


hh4. r4. hh4
% else an additional clef would be printed
\once \omit DrumStaff.Clef
  }
  \clef bass d1
}


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Re: Switching to drummode and back

2016-08-26 Thread David Kastrup 
Sven Hillebrand  writes:

> Hi Everybody,
> I'm currently transcribing a Leadsheet for my Jazz Combo and the
> original contains  four bars with drumnotes. When I insert the notes via
> \drummode it just prints normal notes on the center line:
>
> \version "2.18.2"
> {
>\repeat unfold 8 {e''8}
>\drummode { \clef percussion
>   hh4. r4. hh4.  }
>\clef bass d1
> }
>
> Is there a way to make it look like the original in the attachment?

The "original in the attachment" has very little to do with your code
example.  I'll suggest

\version "2.19.27"

\new OneStaff
{
  \repeat unfold 8 {e''8}
  \drums \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver } { hh4. r4. hh4  }
  \clef bass d1
}

here.  For 2.18.2, this approach is a bit more complicated since you
don't just need the OneStaff definition but also need other contexts (in
this case, Staff) to accept it.

If you don't want "cue clef" positioning before the bar line, you'll
need something like

  \once \override Score.BreakAlignment.break-align-orders =
  #(make-vector 3 '(left-edge
cue-end-clef
ambitus
breathing-sign
time-signature
staff-bar
clef
cue-clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
custos))

at the respective place (the order between staff-bar and clef/cue-clef
is decisive here).  And if you want this different for line-breaks and
non-breaks...

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: Alternative bar numbering [0.18571]

2016-08-26 Thread Ralph Palmer 
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Pastor Neubauer  wrote:

> I have a problem that seems to be part of the way lilypond works. I’m
> using the code below. What I am wondering is how to change the lines
> following the \break command. These lines seem to ignore all page formatt
> ing. The first line is indented and the remaining lines are not.
>

I apologize for taking so long to respond.

 I don't remember when, where, or how I found this, but setting "\indent"
to zero works, at least as late as Ly 1.18.2. I set it in a \layout block,
thus :

\score {
*music*
  }
  \layout {
indent = 0
  }

Hope this helps,

Ralph

-- 
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Brattleboro, VT
USA
palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com
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Re: Switching to drummode and back

2016-08-26 Thread Malte Meyn 



Am 26.08.2016 um 11:40 schrieb Malte Meyn:

\version "2.18.2"

\new Staff \with {
  \accepts DrumStaff
} {
  \repeat unfold 8 {e''8}
  \drums {


I forgot
\once \omit DrumStaff.TimeSignature
here.


hh4. r4. hh4
% else an additional clef would be printed
\once \omit DrumStaff.Clef
  }
  \clef bass d1
}


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Re: Switching to drummode and back

2016-08-26 Thread Malte Meyn 



Am 26.08.2016 um 11:32 schrieb Sven Hillebrand:



\version "2.18.2"
{
   \repeat unfold 8 {e''8}
   \drummode { \clef percussion
  hh4. r4. hh4.  }
   \clef bass d1
}

Is there a way to make it look like the original in the attachment?


Displaying percussion music in \drummode needs a DrumStaff instead of a 
Staff but “normal” notes need a Staff. So you have to create a DrumStaff 
(either \new DrumStaff \drummode or by using the shorthand \drums). Now 
this will of course print an *extra* DrumStaff below the staff. This is 
because Staff contexts accept Voice contexts and some others by default 
but not other Staffs or DrumStaffs (a staff in a staff generally makes 
not much sense). This can be changed in the \with block:


\version "2.18.2"

\new Staff \with {
  \accepts DrumStaff
} {
  \repeat unfold 8 {e''8}
  \drums {
hh4. r4. hh4
% else an additional clef would be printed
\once \omit DrumStaff.Clef
  }
  \clef bass d1
}

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Switching to drummode and back

2016-08-26 Thread Sven Hillebrand 

Hi Everybody,
I'm currently transcribing a Leadsheet for my Jazz Combo and the
original contains  four bars with drumnotes. When I insert the notes via
\drummode it just prints normal notes on the center line:

\version "2.18.2"
{
   \repeat unfold 8 {e''8}
   \drummode { \clef percussion
  hh4. r4. hh4.  }
   \clef bass d1
}

Is there a way to make it look like the original in the attachment?

Thank you very much

Sven
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Re: Dynamics to the left of the note

2016-08-26 Thread Abraham Lee 
On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Evan O'Dorney  wrote:

> Glad I could brighten your day. For the record, it's simply
>
> \once \override DynamicText.X-offset = -3
>
> for dynamics attached to a note.
>

Ah, yes. No need for the initial Dynamics context. Good catch.

--
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