LSR down?

[Andrew Bernard]

Is LSR down for others?

 

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Re: Textspan issues.

[Pieter Terpstra]

David Nalesnik wrote:

> \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left-broken.text = ##f
> \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right-broken.text = ##f

Thank you so much David!


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Re: Textspan issues.

[Andrew Bernard]

Hi Peter,

You could try this. Set the left-broken property.

Andrew

== snip

\paper {
  ragged-last = ##t
}

global = {
  \key d \major
  %\numericTimeSignature
  \time 2/2
}

\relative c' {
  \global
  \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left.text = "pizz. "
   \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left-broken.text = ##f
  \override TextSpanner.style = #'dotted-line
  \override TextSpanner.dash-period = #0.5
  \override TextSpanner.padding = #1
  \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.text = \markup {
\override #'(on . 0.3)
\override #'(off . 0.1)
\draw-dotted-line #'(0 . 1) }
  \textSpannerDown
  \stemUp d,8-.\startTextSpan-\tweak extra-offset #'(-3 . 3)\mp a'-. fis'-.
e-. fis-. fis-. a,4-. | d8-. a'-. fis'-. e-.
\stemDown fis-. fis-. a,-. d-. |\stemUp d,,8-. a'-. fis'-. e-. fis-. fis-.
a,4-. |\break
  \stemDown d8-. a'-. fis'-. e-. fis4-.\stopTextSpan\stemUp a, }
== snip



On 26 March 2017 at 11:29, Pieter Terpstra 
wrote:

> Dear Lilypond friends,
> Doing a Textspan gives me some difficulties.
>
> I would like to see the word pizz. only once in the bi=eginning and not
> repeated on the next line
> and also would like to have the \draw-dashed-line to appear on the last
> end. Is this doable?
> Thank you so much in advance!
>
> Apologies for my bad English!
>
> Example:
> \version "2.18.2"
>
> \paper {
>   ragged-last = ##t
> }
>
> global = {
>   \key d \major
>   %\numericTimeSignature
>   \time 2/2
> }
>
> \relative c' {
>   \global
>   \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left.text = "pizz. "
>   \override TextSpanner.style = #'dotted-line
>   \override TextSpanner.dash-period = #0.5
>   \override TextSpanner.padding = #1
>   \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.text = \markup {
> \draw-dashed-line #'(0 . 1) }
>   \textSpannerDown
>   \stemUp d,8-.\startTextSpan-\tweak extra-offset #'(-3 . 3)\mp a'-.
> fis'-. e-. fis-. fis-. a,4-. | d8-. a'-. fis'-. e-.
> \stemDown fis-. fis-. a,-. d-. |\stemUp d,,8-. a'-. fis'-. e-. fis-. fis-.
> a,4-. |\break
>   \stemDown d8-. a'-. fis'-. e-. fis4-.\stopTextSpan\stemUp a,
> }
>
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Re: Textspan issues.

[David Nalesnik]

Hi Pieter,

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Pieter Terpstra
 wrote:
> Dear Lilypond friends,
> Doing a Textspan gives me some difficulties.
>
> I would like to see the word pizz. only once in the bi=eginning and not 
> repeated on the next line
> and also would like to have the \draw-dashed-line to appear on the last end. 
> Is this doable?

Adding the following two lines should give you what you want:

\override TextSpanner.bound-details.left-broken.text = ##f
\override TextSpanner.bound-details.right-broken.text = ##f

Best,

David

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Greetings...  Is there or will there soon be a version of Frescobaldi 3.0 for 
Mac, either DMG or via MacPorts?


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Textspan issues.

[Pieter Terpstra]

Dear Lilypond friends,
Doing a Textspan gives me some difficulties.

I would like to see the word pizz. only once in the bi=eginning and not 
repeated on the next line 
and also would like to have the \draw-dashed-line to appear on the last end. Is 
this doable?
Thank you so much in advance!

Apologies for my bad English!

Example:
\version "2.18.2"

\paper {
  ragged-last = ##t
}

global = {
  \key d \major
  %\numericTimeSignature
  \time 2/2
}

\relative c' {
  \global
  \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left.text = "pizz. "
  \override TextSpanner.style = #'dotted-line
  \override TextSpanner.dash-period = #0.5
  \override TextSpanner.padding = #1
  \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.text = \markup { \draw-dashed-line 
#'(0 . 1) }
  \textSpannerDown
  \stemUp d,8-.\startTextSpan-\tweak extra-offset #'(-3 . 3)\mp a'-. fis'-. e-. 
fis-. fis-. a,4-. | d8-. a'-. fis'-. e-.
\stemDown fis-. fis-. a,-. d-. |\stemUp d,,8-. a'-. fis'-. e-. fis-. fis-. 
a,4-. |\break
  \stemDown d8-. a'-. fis'-. e-. fis4-.\stopTextSpan\stemUp a,
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Re: Now I post again a proposal... A multilingual GRAPHICAL dictionary;

[J Martin Rushton]

You could start with
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_symbols

On 25/03/17 22:58, Son_V wrote:
> I'm not capable of such a work, that I think should be very useful and is
> ABSOLUTELY MISSING. something like
> 
>  
> 
> Imagine it for all the musical elements (among them from a former questiion,
> "beams and slurs"); Shouldn't it be like a "Rosetta stone" for everyone who
> works with music?
> 
> I doubt I will be capable, but I can offer my contribution. For what?M
> That's the question.
> 
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Re: Unusual beaming for piano music

[Thomas Morley]

2017-03-25 22:01 GMT+01:00 Juan Cristóbal Cerrillo :
> Hello Harm,
>
> If you use two voices as Jeffery suggested and adjust the Stem.beaming
> parameters it seems that the following is not needed.
> Am I correct or is there something I’m missing?

Hi Juan,

I think you've merged the best of the so far posted codes.

> On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:38 AM, Thomas Morley  wrote:
>
>   %% This one is really ugly, because the values are hardcoded
>   %% Every slight change in layout will cause a new round of try-and-error
> :(
>   %% Currently I see no convincing method to automate it.
>   \once \override Beam.after-line-breaking =
>   #(lambda (grob)
>  ;; the (commented) line below prints the list to terminal
>  ;; c/p this list and change the values until they fit your needs
>  ;(pretty-print (ly:grob-property grob 'beam-segments))
>  (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'beam-segments
>'(((vertical-count . 0)
>   (horizontal 55.65 . 85.5911087716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 1)
>   (horizontal 55.65 . 74.7368967716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 1)
>   (horizontal 76.9068967716535 . 78.8368967716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 1)
>   (horizontal 80.5068967716535 . 85.5911087716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 55.65 . 58.3142607716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 61.1842607716535 . 62.34926077165349))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 73.5718967716535 . 74.7368967716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 76.9068967716535 . 78.8368967716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 80.5068967716535 . 82.4368967716535
>   )
>
>
>
> best,
>
> jc
>
> %%example
>
> \version "2.19.57"
>
>
> stemBeams =
> #(define-music-function (parser location l1 l2)(list? list?)
>#{
>  \once \override Stem.beaming = #(cons l1 l2)
>#})
>
>
> \layout {
>   \override NoteHead.stem-attachment = #'(0 . 0)
>   \context {
> \Score
> proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/64)
> \override SpacingSpanner.uniform-stretching = ##t
>   }
> }
>
> \new PianoStaff <<
>   \new Staff = "up"
>   \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing.padding = 4 }
>   <<
> {
>   \cadenzaOn
>   \stemUp
>   \once \override Beam.positions = #'(8 . 8)
>   b''!16[
>   \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
>   \times 4/5 { dis'' cis' dis'' b'! \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0) f''! }
>   \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
>   \times 4/5 { d' f''! bes' f''! \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0) gis' }
>   \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
>   b'!
>   \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0)
>   g''!
>   \change Staff = "down"
>   dis''!16]
> }
> \\
> {
>   s2
>   s8.
>   \once \override Beam.positions = #'(-5 . -5)
>   \once \override Score.NoteColumn. X-offset = -1.2

I'm still puzzled why the overrides for Stem.beaming sometimes need
postive sometimes negative values.
Displaying beam-segments shows only 0,1,2 for vertical-count, i.e positives.


\once \override Beam.after-line-breaking =
#(lambda (grob)
   (pretty-print (ly:grob-property grob 'beam-segments)))

>   \stemBeams #'(0 1 2) #'(0 1)
>   \stemDown
>   \once \hide Rest
>   \stemBeams #'() #'(0 1 2)
>   r32[
>   \stemBeams #'(0 1 2) #'(0 1)
>   fis'''!32
>   \change Staff = "down"
>   \stemUp
>   \stemBeams #'(-1 0) #'(-2 -1 0 )
>   gis''!32
>   \change Staff = "up"
>   \stemDown
>   \stemBeams #'(-2 -1 ) #'(-2 -1  )
>   a'''!16 cis'''! cis'''!
>   \stemBeams #'(0 1 2) #'(0)
>   a'''!32
>   \change Staff = "down"
>   \stemUp
>   \stemBeams #'(0) #'(-2 -1 0)
>   dis'''!32
>   \change Staff = "up"
>   \stemDown
>   \stemBeams #'(-1 0 1) #'(-1)
>   g'''!
>   \change Staff = "down"
>   \stemUp
>   \stemBeams #'(0) #'(-2 -1 0)
>   cis''' !
>   \change Staff = "up"
>   \stemDown
>   bes'''! fis'''!16]
> }
>>>
>
>   \new Staff = "down" {
> s2 s8 s8
> \times 4/5 {  gis''16[ dis''! gis''! ais'' b''!] }
> \once \override Stem.length = #18
> dis'''!
> s8
>   }
>>>

Cheers,
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Re: Now I post again a proposal... A multilingual GRAPHICAL dictionary;

[Son_V]

I'm not capable of such a work, that I think should be very useful and is
ABSOLUTELY MISSING. something like

 

Imagine it for all the musical elements (among them from a former questiion,
"beams and slurs"); Shouldn't it be like a "Rosetta stone" for everyone who
works with music?

I doubt I will be capable, but I can offer my contribution. For what?M
That's the question.



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Re: Now I post again a proposal... A multilingual GRAPHICAL dictionary;

[David Kastrup]

Son_V  writes:

> That is, to make a graphical multilingual dictionary for the musical
> elements. That is missing; I have a dictionary but just for words, so I can
> find that the Italian "legatura di fraseggio" is what in English is "phrase
> mark", in Deutsch "Phraseriunsbogen" and in French "signe de liaison du
> phrasé".
> No chance to SEE a quarter note and understand that is what in Italian is a 
> "Semiminima".
> Can I have some hope of this (don't know how and how much could I work on
> it).

The LilyPond music glossary already contains a number of images, though
for a minority of entries.  If you feel that it contains too few of
them, feel free to make yourself acquainted with LilyPond's contributing
workflows and start improving it.

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Now I post again a proposal... A multilingual GRAPHICAL dictionary;

[Son_V]

That is, to make a graphical multilingual dictionary for the musical
elements. That is missing; I have a dictionary but just for words, so I can
find that the Italian "legatura di fraseggio" is what in English is "phrase
mark", in Deutsch "Phraseriunsbogen" and in French "signe de liaison du
phrasé".
No chance to SEE a quarter note and understand that is what in Italian is a 
"Semiminima".
Can I have some hope of this (don't know how and how much could I work on
it).




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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[David Kastrup]

David Kastrup  writes:

> Also if you have \autoBeamOff, I believe that beaming will follow the
> lyrics of lyrics that have the corresponding music as associated
> context, according to baroque conventions.  I don't see anything in the
> manuals at first glance so I might have gotten the details of that one
> wrong.

Ah, it was the other way round.  When autoBeaming is off, then manual
beams are consulted for syllable lengths.  So if you have to beam
manually anyway, switching the autobeamer off completely makes lyrics
entry simpler:

{ \autoBeamOff g'8[ ais'] b'[ cis''] d''2 }
\addlyrics { tro -- ve -- rò. }


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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 25.03.2017 um 22:04 schrieb Son_V:

Many thanks for your answer, I'll need to learn (starting from the difference
'tween beams and slurs).


Maybe 
 
might get your friend… :-)


Best, Simon

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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Son_V]

Many thanks for your answer, I'll need to learn (starting from the difference
'tween beams and slurs).



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Re: Unusual beaming for piano music

[Juan Cristóbal Cerrillo]

Hello Harm,

If you use two voices as Jeffery suggested and adjust the Stem.beaming 
parameters it seems that the following is not needed.
Am I correct or is there something I’m missing?

> On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:38 AM, Thomas Morley  wrote:
> 
>   %% This one is really ugly, because the values are hardcoded
>   %% Every slight change in layout will cause a new round of try-and-error :(
>   %% Currently I see no convincing method to automate it.
>   \once \override Beam.after-line-breaking =
>   #(lambda (grob)
>  ;; the (commented) line below prints the list to terminal
>  ;; c/p this list and change the values until they fit your needs
>  ;(pretty-print (ly:grob-property grob 'beam-segments))
>  (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'beam-segments
>'(((vertical-count . 0)
>   (horizontal 55.65 . 85.5911087716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 1)
>   (horizontal 55.65 . 74.7368967716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 1)
>   (horizontal 76.9068967716535 . 78.8368967716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 1)
>   (horizontal 80.5068967716535 . 85.5911087716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 55.65 . 58.3142607716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 61.1842607716535 . 62.34926077165349))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 73.5718967716535 . 74.7368967716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 76.9068967716535 . 78.8368967716535))
>  ((vertical-count . 2)
>   (horizontal 80.5068967716535 . 82.4368967716535
>   )


best,

jc

%%example

\version "2.19.57"


stemBeams =
#(define-music-function (parser location l1 l2)(list? list?)
   #{
 \once \override Stem.beaming = #(cons l1 l2)
   #})


\layout {
  \override NoteHead.stem-attachment = #'(0 . 0)
  \context {
\Score
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/64)
\override SpacingSpanner.uniform-stretching = ##t
  }
}

\new PianoStaff <<
  \new Staff = "up" 
  \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing.padding = 4 }
  <<
{
  \cadenzaOn
  \stemUp
  \once \override Beam.positions = #'(8 . 8)
  b''!16[
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
  \times 4/5 { dis'' cis' dis'' b'! \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0) f''! }
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
  \times 4/5 { d' f''! bes' f''! \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0) gis' }
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
  b'! 
  \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0)
  g''!
  \change Staff = "down"
  dis''!16]
}
\\
{
  s2
  s8.
  \once \override Beam.positions = #'(-5 . -5)
  \once \override Score.NoteColumn. X-offset = -1.2
  \stemBeams #'(0 1 2) #'(0 1)
  \stemDown
  \once \hide Rest
  \stemBeams #'() #'(0 1 2)
  r32[
  \stemBeams #'(0 1 2) #'(0 1)
  fis'''!32
  \change Staff = "down"
  \stemUp
  \stemBeams #'(-1 0) #'(-2 -1 0 )
  gis''!32
  \change Staff = "up"
  \stemDown
  \stemBeams #'(-2 -1 ) #'(-2 -1  )
  a'''!16 cis'''! cis'''! 
  \stemBeams #'(0 1 2) #'(0)
  a'''!32
  \change Staff = "down"
  \stemUp
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(-2 -1 0)
  dis'''!32
  \change Staff = "up"
  \stemDown
  \stemBeams #'(-1 0 1) #'(-1)
  g'''!
  \change Staff = "down"
  \stemUp
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(-2 -1 0)
  cis''' !
  \change Staff = "up"
  \stemDown
  bes'''! fis'''!16]
}
>>

  \new Staff = "down" {
s2 s8 s8
\times 4/5 {  gis''16[ dis''! gis''! ais'' b''!] }
\once \override Stem.length = #18
dis'''!
s8
  }
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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Jeffery Shivers]

Ignore my first response btw... it's been too long since I worked with text.

Urs's explanation is correct (and again, all of us are still having to
assume things / speak generally since we don't know in what musical
context this fragment is situated).

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Son_V  wrote:
> If just I could understand that the question I have is about something that
> is called "beaming" in English...

http://lilypond.org/glossary.html

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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Son_V]

If just I could understand that the question I have is about something that
is called "beaming" in English...



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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Urs Liska]

Am 25.03.2017 um 19:51 schrieb Son_V:
> Sorry for the subject, I wasn't able to choose a better one.
> I usually try to put in a beautiful way scores that came fro copy to copy.
> So I try to be loyal to what I find; but I got a score, see below,
>
>  
>
> that Lilypond writes differently, see
>
>  
>
> Who is right?

Of course this question can't be asked that way (as others have pointed
out you/we need more context). But png.2 (the LilyPond rendering) is
most probably wrong in most contexts. The issue we're seeing here is how
beaming relates to syllables. In engraving tradition there are basically
two methods to indicate melismas: beams and slurs. A typcial 19th
century tradition to notate melismas is to use both slurs and beams (as
you can see in the first system of the attached image).

Actually this is redundant and therefore it has become common to use
*only* beams to indicate melismas, taking slurs only when there is no
way to use beams (long durations, rests between notes). Finally there's
one tradition to use the beams in "instrumental" fashion, that is
according to the meter, and use only slurs to indicate melismas.

But I''ve never seen anything like your 2.png in published scores yet.

> And if them right one is the first,k how can I tell Lilypond to make what is
> in the first picture?


\markup "Traditional"
\relative g' {
  g8 [ ( a ] ) b [ ( c ]) d2
}

\markup "“Modern”"
\relative g' {
  g8 [ a ] b [ c ] d2
}

\markup "“Modern alternative”"
\relative g' {
  g8 [ ( a ) b ( c ) ] d2
}

Urs

> PS I do not have "Beyond bars" at hand, and moreover it should be hard to
> find the answer, i fear.
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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Jeffery Shivers]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Son_V  wrote:
> Yes, you're right.
> But I left writing scores for a lot, and now I'm still in the position I
> were then: a newbie to Lilypond.
> That I love for the wonderful typographical engine, otherwise I could
> happily stand with MuseScore (oh if they made MS a frontend to LP!).

Newbie or not, you can google many questions and get the answers you
need much faster than by posting on this list. In other words, it is
typically to your advantage to search for the answer yourself before
resorting to typing up a message and waiting to hear back.

In this case, a search for "lilypond beam" pulls up everything you
need (minus the philosophy; you can find some of that here:
http://lilypond.org/background.html).

Welcome back to the Pond!

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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Son_V]

Yes, you're right.
But I left writing scores for a lot, and now I'm still in the position I
were then: a newbie to Lilypond.
That I love for the wonderful typographical engine, otherwise I could
happily stand with MuseScore (oh if they made MS a frontend to LP!).



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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Carl Sorensen" 



Welcome to LilyPond!


Not quite.  See

http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Hiding-empty-pentagrams-first-message-td153328.html

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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Carl Sorensen]

On 3/25/17 12:51 PM, "Son_V"  wrote:

>Sorry for the subject, I wasn't able to choose a better one.
>I usually try to put in a beautiful way scores that came fro copy to copy.
>So I try to be loyal to what I find; but I got a score, see below,
>
>
>
>that Lilypond writes differently, see
>
>
>
>Who is right?

Both sets of beaming are acceptable.

In the vocal music example you give, it's probably most common that the
original beaming you found is better than the lilypond beaming, because
there is one beam per syllable.

You could manually beam the notes to get them to look the way you want.

You could also change the characteristics of the automatic beaming if
you'd like.

This is covered in the Learning Manual:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/automatic-and-manual-b
eams

There are also links to the Notation Reference for more information about
beaming.

A better subject for this email would be "Beaming of vocal music".

If you include a small piece of LilyPond code that illustrates the problem
you are having, you are likely to have someone give you specific answers
to how to change your file.

You can see http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html for instructions on how
to create tiny
examples that show your challenges.

Welcome to LilyPond!

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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Son_V]

Manually beam the notes, e.g.:

g8[ ais] b[ cis] d2

Thanks a lot.



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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[David Kastrup]

Son_V  writes:

> Sorry for the subject, I wasn't able to choose a better one.
> I usually try to put in a beautiful way scores that came fro copy to copy.
> So I try to be loyal to what I find; but I got a score, see below,
>
>  
>
> that Lilypond writes differently, see
>
>  
>
> Who is right?
> And if them right one is the first,k how can I tell Lilypond to make what is
> in the first picture?
> PS I do not have "Beyond bars" at hand, and moreover it should be hard to
> find the answer, i fear.

You did not give a minimal example, you did not specify the meter, you
did not give enough context to determine the system your reference is
working with: whether it is beaming eighths per quarter generally,
whether it is beaming to the text, whether it is following baroque
conventions and so forth and so on.

This is not a "phylosophical question", it is a mixture between vague
handwaving and complaining without enough substance to figure out what
this is about.

All of the possibilities have different answers.  You will find a whole
lot of them explained in the manual, however.

Check  and
its subchapters.

Also if you have \autoBeamOff, I believe that beaming will follow the
lyrics of lyrics that have the corresponding music as associated
context, according to baroque conventions.  I don't see anything in the
manuals at first glance so I might have gotten the details of that one
wrong.

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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[Jeffery Shivers]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Son_V  wrote:
> Sorry for the subject, I wasn't able to choose a better one.
> I usually try to put in a beautiful way scores that came fro copy to copy.
> So I try to be loyal to what I find; but I got a score, see below,
>
> 
>
> that Lilypond writes differently, see
>
> 
>
> Who is right?
> And if them right one is the first,k how can I tell Lilypond to make what is
> in the first picture?
> PS I do not have "Beyond bars" at hand, and moreover it should be hard to
> find the answer, i fear.
>

I'm guessing here since you didn't actually specify your question -
are you asking about the beaming?

The quavers would logically be grouped in four (2.png). That's an
assumption without any of the surrounding musical context of course,
but even with that I would normally expect a group of four since this
belongs to a single word.

If we are in some strange meter and these lyrics are simply there for
phrasing - say, it's actually a violin part playing what is
transcribed from a vocal piece - then *maybe* that could be different.
Still, lyrics pretty much speak for themselves phrasing/beaming-wise..

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/beams

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Re: A "phylosophical" question

[H. S. Teoh]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:51:15AM -0700, Son_V wrote:
> Sorry for the subject, I wasn't able to choose a better one.
> I usually try to put in a beautiful way scores that came fro copy to
> copy.  So I try to be loyal to what I find; but I got a score, see
> below,
> 
>  
> 
> that Lilypond writes differently, see
> 
>  
> 
> Who is right?

That depends on the context and intent of the music.  Not enough
information to decide.


> And if them right one is the first,k how can I tell Lilypond to make
> what is in the first picture?
[...]

Manually beam the notes, e.g.:

g8[ ais] b[ cis] d2


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A "phylosophical" question

[Son_V]

Sorry for the subject, I wasn't able to choose a better one.
I usually try to put in a beautiful way scores that came fro copy to copy.
So I try to be loyal to what I find; but I got a score, see below,

 

that Lilypond writes differently, see

 

Who is right?
And if them right one is the first,k how can I tell Lilypond to make what is
in the first picture?
PS I do not have "Beyond bars" at hand, and moreover it should be hard to
find the answer, i fear.



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Re: Add more spacings...

[Son_V]

Thanks. That was the answer.
Thanks again and be patient with a dumb newbie.



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Re: Add more spacings...

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 25.03.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Son_V:

But sorry, I was unable to find how to put more space after the headers and
the first staff. May you please help?


Try searching the manual for the paper variable ‘markup-system-spacing’. 
That should be the one you’re looking for.


HTH, Simon

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Re: Add more spacings...

[Urs Liska]

Am 25. März 2017 18:25:58 MEZ schrieb Son_V :
>
>> Well, If I compile an xml file, add the composer, the poet, the
>staves are
>> too close to them. I would like to have more space after the headers
>and
>> the
>> subsequent staves.
>>
>> And the space between the subsequent staves seems too tight, IMHO.
>
>OK, so actually isn't a question but a statement, but I assume you want
>to know how to change this. Or is this a request to change LilyPond's
>default behaviour?
>
>The details of page layout and vertical spacing are explained in
>http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/spacing-issues and
>http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/spacing-issues. Be
>sure to look into the manual corresponding to the LilyPond version you
>use as there have been significant changes.
>
>Urs
>
>Thanks. the "system-system-spacing #'basic-distance" was what I needed
>to
>add more space between the staves. I puty it to   = #20 and I got a
>better
>looking.
>
>But sorry, I was unable to find how to put more space after the headers
>and
>the first staff. May you please help?
>
>

The easiest is to put

\markup \vspace #1

before the score. The "proper" solution depends on the LilyPond version you use.

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Re: Add more spacings...

[Son_V]

> Well, If I compile an xml file, add the composer, the poet, the staves are
> too close to them. I would like to have more space after the headers and
> the
> subsequent staves.
>
> And the space between the subsequent staves seems too tight, IMHO.

OK, so actually isn't a question but a statement, but I assume you want
to know how to change this. Or is this a request to change LilyPond's
default behaviour?

The details of page layout and vertical spacing are explained in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/spacing-issues and
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/spacing-issues. Be
sure to look into the manual corresponding to the LilyPond version you
use as there have been significant changes.

Urs

Thanks. the "system-system-spacing #'basic-distance" was what I needed to
add more space between the staves. I puty it to   = #20 and I got a better
looking.

But sorry, I was unable to find how to put more space after the headers and
the first staff. May you please help?



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Re: Add more spacings...

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Son_V" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Add more spacings...




Am 25.03.2017 um 17:46 schrieb Son_V:

After the headers;
and between the staves.

Sorry for the humble questions.


They are not so much humble as they are unclear.

Well, If I compile an xml file, add the composer, the poet, the staves are
too close to them. I would like to have more space after the headers and 
the

subsequent staves.

And the space between the subsequent staves seems too tight, IMHO.

Thanks.


If you provide a tiny example illustrating your problem, you're more likely 
to get help:


http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html

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Re: Add more spacings...

[Urs Liska]

Am 25.03.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Son_V:
> Am 25.03.2017 um 17:46 schrieb Son_V:
>> After the headers;
>> and between the staves.
>>
>> Sorry for the humble questions.
> They are not so much humble as they are unclear.
>
> Well, If I compile an xml file, add the composer, the poet, the staves are
> too close to them. I would like to have more space after the headers and the
> subsequent staves.
>
> And the space between the subsequent staves seems too tight, IMHO.

OK, so actually isn't a question but a statement, but I assume you want
to know how to change this. Or is this a request to change LilyPond's
default behaviour?

The details of page layout and vertical spacing are explained in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/spacing-issues and
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/spacing-issues. Be
sure to look into the manual corresponding to the LilyPond version you
use as there have been significant changes.

Urs

> Thanks.
>
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Re: Add more spacings...

[Son_V]

Am 25.03.2017 um 17:46 schrieb Son_V:
> After the headers;
> and between the staves.
>
> Sorry for the humble questions.

They are not so much humble as they are unclear.

Well, If I compile an xml file, add the composer, the poet, the staves are
too close to them. I would like to have more space after the headers and the
subsequent staves.

And the space between the subsequent staves seems too tight, IMHO.

Thanks.



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Re: Add more spacings...

[Urs Liska]

Am 25.03.2017 um 17:46 schrieb Son_V:
> After the headers;
> and between the staves.
>
> Sorry for the humble questions.

They are not so much humble as they are unclear.

>
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Add more spacings...

[Son_V]

After the headers;
and between the staves.

Sorry for the humble questions.



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Re: Unusual beaming for piano music

[Thomas Morley]

2017-03-24 22:25 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley :

>
>
> 2017-03-24 2:13 GMT+01:00 Andrew Bernard :
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an unusual beaming situation in the piano work I am setting. The
>> composer I work with is fussy (very) about his visual gestures in notation
>> and it is incumbent on me to reproduce the beaming seen in the attached
>> image. The issue I am having difficulty with is where the beam for the
>> spanned group goes from up to down with no break – at the point where the
>> “treble^8” clef is introduced. Are there any smart solutions to such a
>> situation?
>>
>>
>>
>> I can ask to have this notated differently, but it would go against
>> various large scale structural patterns in the music. [Yes, we know it does
>> not follow engraving rules ]  So a technical lilypond solution would
>> be great.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
>
> Sorry to say, I usually throw away scores where the composer obfuscates
> things.
>

Anyway, here my attempt, some heavy ugliness in it, though, (see comments
inline)

\version "2.19.57"

stemBeams =
#(define-music-function (l1 l2)(list? list?)
#{
  \once \override Stem.beaming = #(cons l1 l2)
#})


\layout {
  \override NoteHead.stem-attachment = #'(0 . 0)
  \context {
\Score
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/24)
\override SpacingSpanner.uniform-stretching = ##t
  }
}

\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff = "up"
  \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing.padding = 4 }
  {
  \cadenzaOn
  \stemUp
  \once \override Beam.positions = #'(8 . 8)
  b''!16[
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
  \times 4/5 { dis'' cis' dis'' b'! \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0) f''! }
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
  \times 4/5 { d' f''! bes' f''! \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0) gis' }
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(0 1)
  b'!
  \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(0)
  g''!
  \change Staff = "down"
  dis''!16]

  %% This one is really ugly, because the values are hardcoded
  %% Every slight change in layout will cause a new round of try-and-error
:(
  %% Currently I see no convincing method to automate it.
  \once \override Beam.after-line-breaking =
  #(lambda (grob)
 ;; the (commented) line below prints the list to terminal
 ;; c/p this list and change the values until they fit your needs
 ;(pretty-print (ly:grob-property grob 'beam-segments))
 (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'beam-segments
   '(((vertical-count . 0)
  (horizontal 55.65 . 85.5911087716535))
 ((vertical-count . 1)
  (horizontal 55.65 . 74.7368967716535))
 ((vertical-count . 1)
  (horizontal 76.9068967716535 . 78.8368967716535))
 ((vertical-count . 1)
  (horizontal 80.5068967716535 . 85.5911087716535))
 ((vertical-count . 2)
  (horizontal 55.65 . 58.3142607716535))
 ((vertical-count . 2)
  (horizontal 61.1842607716535 . 62.34926077165349))
 ((vertical-count . 2)
  (horizontal 73.5718967716535 . 74.7368967716535))
 ((vertical-count . 2)
  (horizontal 76.9068967716535 . 78.8368967716535))
 ((vertical-count . 2)
  (horizontal 80.5068967716535 . 82.4368967716535
  )


  \once \override Beam.positions = #'(-5 . -5)
  \once \override Score.NoteColumn. X-offset = -1.2
  \stemBeams #'(0 1 2) #'(0 1)
  \change Staff = "up"
  \stemDown
  fis'''!32[
  \change Staff = "down"
  \stemUp

  %% Remark
  %% I don't understand those strange values for Stem.beaming following
below
  %% and the need to set them in first place at all
  %% Causing the need to correct some with the override for 'beam-segments
above
  \stemBeams #'(0 1) #'(-1 0 1)
  gis''!32
  \change Staff = "up"
  \stemDown
  \stemBeams #'(-1 0 1) #'(-1 0 )
  a'''!16 cis'''! cis'''!
  \stemBeams #'(0 1 2) #'(0)
  a'''!32
  \change Staff = "down"
  \stemUp
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(-2 -1 0)
  dis'''!32
  \change Staff = "up"
  \stemDown
  \stemBeams #'(-1 0 1) #'(-1)
  g'''!
  \change Staff = "down"
  \stemUp
  \stemBeams #'(0) #'(-2 -1 0)
  cis''' !
  \change Staff = "up"
  \stemDown
  bes'''! fis'''!16]
}

\new Staff = "down" {
s2 s4 s32
\times 4/5 {  gis''16[ dis''! gis''! ais'' b''!] }
dis'''!
s8
}
>>

Cheers,
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Re: Polymetric forcing break

[Karim Haddad]

Hi Mike,

Thanx for your advice. I will follow it and look into this.

Best
K

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 08:44:22AM +0200, Mike Solomon wrote:
> Hey Karim!
> I had the same problem a couple years ago and I solved it with a custom 
> voice-level engraver - can't find any of that, but that's your best bet as 
> it'll automate a lot of the tedium of manually putting in markups.
> ~Mike
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  Original message From: Karim Haddad  
> Date: 3/24/17  8:47 PM  (GMT+02:00) To: Simon Albrecht 
>  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Polymetric 
> forcing break 
> Thank both of you,
> 
> But unfortunately, this doesn't work in every case. By the way \remove 
> "Forbid_line_break_engraver" is already in the example i have sent. It works 
> for some cases (rare ones i presume), and don't for most.
> 
> You should check out the 2 breaks in the example. The first doesn't work. The 
> second yes.
> I need it to force breaking since i am using 4 polyphonic voices where there 
> are seldom concording rests, and even less bars that ends together.
> 
> And yes i moved it on staff level in order to have independant mesure 
> numbers. If i remove mesure numbers i can remove the "Timing_translator" and 
> the breaks works just fine. So my problem is simple, i need to have measure 
> numbers for each voice running independently , and i need to force breaks in 
> order to see all the score.
> 
> If this is not possible in lilypond using measure numbers, i think i will do 
> it as markup maybe it is simpler. ;-)
> 
> 
> And thanx for your help. I appreciate it.
> Good typestting !
> 
> Karim
> 
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 07:18:34PM +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> > Am 24.03.2017 um 19:02 schrieb Richard Shann:
> > > On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 18:56 +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> > > > Am 24.03.2017 um 18:23 schrieb Karim Haddad:
> > > > > I have a issue with forced breaks using polymetric music.
> > > > In order for \break to be effective, you need a barline (in all
> > > > staves,
> > > > IIRC)
> > > I think there is never a need to put a barline in more than one staff -
> > > barlines apply to the musical momemnt IIUC.
> > 
> > Iff the respective engraver lives in the Score context. However, for his
> > polymetric music Karim will have moved it to Staff level, I presume.
> > 
> > Best, Simon
> 
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Re: Is it possible \quoteDuring from a different position?

[Malte Meyn]

Am 25.03.2017 um 02:23 schrieb caag...@gmail.com:
> For example, quoting the start of the music when you are a few measures in?

You could use several \addQuotes. But this needs one for every shift, so
maybe it’s not the best solution.

\version "2.19.56"

foo = \relative {
  c' d e f
  g2 g
  a4 a a a
  g1
}
\addQuote foo \foo
\addQuote shiftfoo { s1*2 \foo }

<<
  \new Staff \foo
  \new Staff {
\quoteDuring foo s1*2
\quoteDuring shiftfoo s
  }
>>

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Re: Polymetric forcing break

[Mike Solomon]

Hey Karim!
I had the same problem a couple years ago and I solved it with a custom 
voice-level engraver - can't find any of that, but that's your best bet as 
it'll automate a lot of the tedium of manually putting in markups.
~Mike
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Karim Haddad  
Date: 3/24/17  8:47 PM  (GMT+02:00) To: Simon Albrecht  
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Polymetric forcing break 
Thank both of you,

But unfortunately, this doesn't work in every case. By the way \remove 
"Forbid_line_break_engraver" is already in the example i have sent. It works 
for some cases (rare ones i presume), and don't for most.

You should check out the 2 breaks in the example. The first doesn't work. The 
second yes.
I need it to force breaking since i am using 4 polyphonic voices where there 
are seldom concording rests, and even less bars that ends together.

And yes i moved it on staff level in order to have independant mesure numbers. 
If i remove mesure numbers i can remove the "Timing_translator" and the breaks 
works just fine. So my problem is simple, i need to have measure numbers for 
each voice running independently , and i need to force breaks in order to see 
all the score.

If this is not possible in lilypond using measure numbers, i think i will do it 
as markup maybe it is simpler. ;-)


And thanx for your help. I appreciate it.
Good typestting !

Karim

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 07:18:34PM +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> Am 24.03.2017 um 19:02 schrieb Richard Shann:
> > On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 18:56 +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> > > Am 24.03.2017 um 18:23 schrieb Karim Haddad:
> > > > I have a issue with forced breaks using polymetric music.
> > > In order for \break to be effective, you need a barline (in all
> > > staves,
> > > IIRC)
> > I think there is never a need to put a barline in more than one staff -
> > barlines apply to the musical momemnt IIUC.
> 
> Iff the respective engraver lives in the Score context. However, for his
> polymetric music Karim will have moved it to Staff level, I presume.
> 
> Best, Simon

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