RE: beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-01 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Sam,

Perhaps
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/beams

Mark

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Subject: beaming with cadenzaOn

If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with acciaccaturas
between them is created as I expect.
in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.
Please direct me to the place in manual where this is found.
Thank you. Or if it's not in the manual and there's a solution that you know
I look forward to knowing this.
Jay

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Re: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-01 Thread Brian Barker

At 03:47 01/06/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:

Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker 
Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a left 
bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".


It doesn't work.


It does for me - and clearly also for Mr Holmes.


I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing happens ...


For what it's worth, it works for me in 2.18.2.


Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks?


No.


Otherwise without the marks nothing happens.


You must be doing something different; I cannot guess what this may 
be. Are you sure you are putting both the brackets exactly where suggested?


Brian Barker 



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Re: additional clef at start

2017-06-01 Thread Klaus Blum
Hi musicus, 


musicus wrote
> How to get a second clef at the beginning of a piece?

Here's another workaround, inspired by lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=956:

% 
\new PianoStaff {
  <<
\new Staff {
  \partial 2
  s4*1/200
  e''4*199/200 f''4
}
\new Staff {
  \partial 2
  \clef "bass"
  s8*1/100
  \clef "treble"
  c'8*99/100 g'8 e' g'
}
  >>
}
% 





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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

2017-06-01 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-06-01 11:52 GMT+02:00 Michael Gerdau :
> Hallo Jonathan,
>
>
> I would like to typeset a certain type of notation, which can be found
> in liturgical context. I have an example image attached. (Ignore the
> lyrics written in Fraktur). I have two questions:
>
> How is this notation called?
> How can I (easily) reproduce it with LP? - a question which might
> break apart into:
> 2a) how do I typeset those "double-quarter" notes?
> 2b) how do I manage the alignment of lyrics conveniently? (NB
> that several times there happen to be multiple syllables on one note).
>
> quite some time ago Thomas Morley kindly provided a very helpful function
> \offsetChord which is rather helpful to deal with these melismata. Find
> below an engraving of the image you mailed:

See
https://archiv.lilypondforum.de/index.php/topic,2027.msg11201.html#msg11201
with another example
revised coding:
https://archiv.lilypondforum.de/index.php/topic,2027.msg11900.html#msg11900

The there provided 'setOtherParent'-function may be of some use as well.


Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: additional clef at start

2017-06-01 Thread tisimst
Hi, musicus!

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:31 PM, musicus [via Lilypond] <
ml+s1069038n203540...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> forgot the attachement...
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> I have a probably not so difficult question, but cannot find the solution
> by myself:
>
> How to get a second clef at the beginning of a piece?
> See attached...
>
> Thank you all,
> musicus
>
> There's not a convenient way to do this, but here are a couple of
workarounds to give you some options:

http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=792

http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=956

Best,
Abraham




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Re: additional clef at start

2017-06-01 Thread musicus

forgot the attachement...



Dear all,

I have a probably not so difficult question, but cannot find the 
solution by myself:


How to get a second clef at the beginning of a piece?
See attached...

Thank you all,
musicus<>
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additional clef at start

2017-06-01 Thread musicus

Dear all,

I have a probably not so difficult question, but cannot find the 
solution by myself:


How to get a second clef at the beginning of a piece?
See attached...

Thank you all,
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Re: Frenched score and instrumentName.

2017-06-01 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude

Le 01/06/2017 à 03:01, Hwaen Ch'uqi a écrit :

Greetings Kieren,

Yes, I had considered that but had hoped that there would be a
smoother solution that would not then require me to change
shortInstrumentName for each part to reflect the desired abbreviations
to follow. 


You can type

\once \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Long instrument name"

at the appropriate place, and even use a \tag #'FullScore to have it 
only appear there.


Cheers,
Jean-Charles

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Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 07:33:33AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> > I don't really like \transposeMidi .  \concertPitch might be better
> 
> +1
> 
> Kieren.

+1

Paul



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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

2017-06-01 Thread Michael Gerdau
Travelling right now I'd suspect a problem related to errorneous line breaks in 
the code copied from email. If you can't find the problem I'll resend the code 
as attachment later tonight. 
Kind regards, 
Michael 

Am 1. Juni 2017 15:48:50 MESZ schrieb David Wright :
>On Thu 01 Jun 2017 at 11:52:31 (+0200), Michael Gerdau wrote:
>
>>   cis \offsetChord { b b } a \breathe a d d cis \breathe \bar ""
>\break a\breve*1/4
>
>>   […] zet wür -- de.
>>   und je -- der -- mann
>>   \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT "ging, daß er
>sich"
>
>I get a programming error from somewhere within those lines:
>
>Drawing systems...
>programming error: Loose column does not have right side to attach to.
>continuing, cross fingers
>Layout output to `/tmp/lilypond-nVURRS'...
>
>And BTW that comma I mentioned, yes it does cause trouble,
>printing it as well as singing it.
>
>Cheers,
>David.

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Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Jun 2017 at 09:06:11 (+0200), David Kastrup wrote:
> Jacques Menu Muzhic  writes:
> 
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > This subject comes from time to time : maybe \transposeMidi would be a
> > better name?
> 
> It doesn't actually _transpose_ a given music sequence but sets the
> relation between printed and concert pitch from the moment it is
> written.  This relation is used in Midi generation, but it is also used
> when quoting music in print.
> 
> So I don't really like \transposeMidi .  \concertPitch might be better
> (though the relation to c' is not really obvious in there).

Would   \concertPitchMidC   hint at both meanings, and explain
that relationship?

Cheers,
David.

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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

2017-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Jun 2017 at 11:52:31 (+0200), Michael Gerdau wrote:

>   cis \offsetChord { b b } a \breathe a d d cis \breathe \bar "" \break 
> a\breve*1/4

>   […] zet wür -- de.
>   und je -- der -- mann
>   \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT "ging, daß er sich"

I get a programming error from somewhere within those lines:

Drawing systems...
programming error: Loose column does not have right side to attach to.
continuing, cross fingers
Layout output to `/tmp/lilypond-nVURRS'...

And BTW that comma I mentioned, yes it does cause trouble,
printing it as well as singing it.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all,

> I don't really like \transposeMidi .  \concertPitch might be better

+1

Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info


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Re: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-01 Thread Phil Holmes
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To: "lilypond user group" ; 


Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:47 AM
Subject: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn



Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker 
To: lilypond user group 
Cc: Sam Frybyte 
Subject: Re: beaming with cadenzaOn
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At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:

If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be 
beamed.



Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a >>left
bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".



If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more
readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose >>anything
but separately follow the notes to which they apply.
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker


Mr. Barker
It doesn't work.  I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing
happens- Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks? and if
you do where is this information in the manual?  Otherwise without the
marks nothing happens.
Thank you


It does work:

{ \cadenzaOn \acciaccatura c'8 a8[
\acciaccatura b8 ges8]
\times 2/3 {f16[ des des]} des4
}


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RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-01 Thread Sam Frybyte
Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker 
To: lilypond user group 
Cc: Sam Frybyte 
Subject: Re: beaming with cadenzaOn
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At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:
>If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
>acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
>in version. 2.18.2
>with \cadenzaOn
>\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
> \stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
> \times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4
>
>I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.

>>Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a >>left
>>bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".

>>If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more
>>readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose >>anything
>>but separately follow the notes to which they apply.
>>I trust this helps.
>>Brian Barker

Mr. Barker
It doesn't work.  I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing
happens- Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks? and if
you do where is this information in the manual?  Otherwise without the
marks nothing happens.
Thank you

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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

2017-06-01 Thread Michael Gerdau
Hallo Jonathan,


> 
> I would like to typeset a certain type of notation, which can be found
> in liturgical context. I have an example image attached. (Ignore the
> lyrics written in Fraktur). I have two questions:
> 
>1. How is this notation called?
>2. How can I (easily) reproduce it with LP? - a question which might
>   break apart into:
>   2a) how do I typeset those "double-quarter" notes?
>   2b) how do I manage the alignment of lyrics conveniently? (NB
>   that several times there happen to be multiple syllables on one 
> note).
> 

quite some time ago Thomas Morley kindly provided a very helpful function 
\offsetChord which is rather helpful to deal with these melismata. Find below 
an engraving of the image you mailed:

%---

\version "2.19.59"

\include "gregorian.ly"

\paper {
  indent = 0
  ragged-last = ##t
}

offsetChord =
#(define-music-function (music)(ly:music?)
"Return an event-chord with offsetted NoteHeads.
Articulations are printed with respect to their corresponding NoteHeads "
  (let* ((ev-notes (event-chord-notes music)))
(make-event-chord
  (map
(lambda (ecn which val)
  (let ((arts (ly:music-property ecn 'articulations)))
;; set 'articulations of 'NoteEvent
(ly:music-set-property! ecn 'articulations
  (if (not (null? arts))
  (map
(lambda (a)
  ;; set a new parent for 'ArticulationEvent
  (if (music-is-of-type? a 'articulation-event)
  #{
\tweak after-line-breaking
  #(lambda (grob)
 (let* ((note-head (ly:grob-parent grob X))
(nc (ly:grob-parent note-head X))
(nh
  (ly:grob-array->list
(ly:grob-object nc 'note-heads
   (set!
 (ly:grob-parent grob X)
 (list-ref nh which
$a
  #}
  a))
arts)
  '()))
  ;; apply 'X-offset-tweak to every NoteHead
  #{ \tweak X-offset $val $ecn #}))
ev-notes
(iota (length ev-notes))
(iota (length ev-notes) 0 1.48)

\layout {
  \omit Stem
  \context {
\Score
defaultBarType = #""
\omit TimeSignature
% reenable the following line to prevent "open ended" Akkolada
%\override SpacingSpanner.base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1/16)
%\remove "Bar_number_engraver"
  }
  \context {
\Lyrics
\override LyricText.X-align-on-main-noteheads = ##f
%\override LyricText.font-size = #-1
  }
}

chant = \relative a' {
  \key d \major
  a4 a \breathe a \offsetChord { b d } b b a \offsetChord { b b }
  cis \offsetChord { b b } a \breathe a d d cis \breathe \bar "" \break 
a\breve*1/4
  d4 d a a \breathe a d d cis cis b b \offsetChord { a a } \divisioMaior
  e e\breve*1/4 \offsetChord { a4 a } e e
}

verba = \lyricmode {
  aus -- ging, daß al -- le Welt ge -- schät -- zet wür -- de.
  und je -- der -- mann
  \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT "ging, daß er sich"
  schät -- zen lie -- ße,
  ein jeg -- li -- cher in sei -- ne Stadt.
  Da \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT "machte sich auch auf"
  Jo -- seph aus
}

\score {
  <<
\new Voice = "melody" \chant
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verba
  >>
}

%-


Kind regards,

Michael
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Re: Multiple voices and rest position

2017-06-01 Thread Johan Vromans
On Wed, 31 May 2017 23:31:53 +0200, Robert Blackstone
 wrote:

> write b8 \rest instead of r b8.

Nifty...

Thanks Robert and Trevor.

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Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 07:50:28AM +0200, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote:
> Hello folks,
> 
> This subject comes from time to time : maybe \transposeMidi would be a better 
> name?

No.  It also set transpositions for quoteDuring and cueDuring irrelevant of
MIDI.

Paul

> 
> JM
> 
> > Le 31 mai 2017 à 19:18, caag...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > 
> > \transposition doesn't affect the generated score, it only affects the midi 
> > output. To transpose the score, do \new Staff { \transposition f \transpose 
> > f c {...} }. (In your case, the << >> can replace the inner {}.)
> > 
> > On 05/31/17 19:09, Jérôme Plût wrote:
> >> I am typing a horn part in F. In the attached file, \transposition
> >> does nothing. Where should I put it: at the voice, Staff, Score level?
> >> The documentation 
> >> (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#instrument-transpositions)
> >>  is very unclear about this.
> >> The file itself:
> >> \version "2.19"
> >> Ig = \relative {
> >>   \time 4/4 \key g \major \partial 4
> >> }
> >> IcA = \transpose c g \relative {
> >>   r4 R1 r8. c'16\f c4 r2 R1 d4\f r r2 R1*2 e2\p(^"soli" d) c4 r r2 R1*2 
> >> R1*5
> >> }
> >> \bookpart { \header { instrument = "Cor I (Fa)" }
> >> \score { { \new Staff { \transposition f << \Ig \transposition f \IcA >> } 
> >> } }
> >> }
> >> % note that this outputs a score in g major and not, as it should,
> >> % in d major
> >> Thanks,
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Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Jacques Menu Muzhic  writes:

> Hello folks,
>
> This subject comes from time to time : maybe \transposeMidi would be a
> better name?

It doesn't actually _transpose_ a given music sequence but sets the
relation between printed and concert pitch from the moment it is
written.  This relation is used in Midi generation, but it is also used
when quoting music in print.

So I don't really like \transposeMidi .  \concertPitch might be better
(though the relation to c' is not really obvious in there).

-- 
David Kastrup

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