Re: Relative rhythms across bars for time changes?
Thanks for the advice - I can certainly give that a go! Alasdair On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 at 06:14, Knute Snortum wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 8:15 AM Alasdair McAndrew > wrote: > >> I'm typesetting some 16th century music which has a lot of time changes. >> And I'd like to add equivalences of notes across bar-lines, to indicate for >> example, that a quarter note in one bar is equal in time to a half note in >> the next bar. >> >> The sort of notation I want is in this snippet: >> >> >> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-creating-metronome-marks-in-markup-mode >> >> However, I want that equals sign to be aligned with the barline. I have >> two questions: (a) how can I do this? and (b) is there an easier way than >> the markup given in the snippet? >> > > I don't know of an automatic way to align the markup with the barline, but > you could tweak the X-offset of the MetronomeMark to get it where you want. > -- Alasdair McAndrew (he/him) mob: 0432 854 858 https://numbersandshapes.net
Re: LilyPond 2.25.10
I will try to create a MWE if that is required to track down the
problem.
A *minimal* example is not strictly required (though helpful), but
*some* example is — otherwise, there is nothing we can do, sorry.
Attached is a fairly short example that shows the described behaviour
with 2.25.10
The problem seems to be created by the code copied from LSR snippet 888.
When the \layout{} section is commented out, everything compiles fine.
So maybe it's not a lilypond problem but one of LSR snippet 888.
The attached example from the previous email did have a function
\paradyn not removed. The attached version does have it removed. Sorry
for sending the wrong file.
As an additional finding:
Not only removing the \layout{} does make the error go away, removing
the '\new ChoirStaff <<' with the corresponding '>>' makes the error go
away as well.
Not sure what the problem could be.
Kind regards,
Michael
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GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver\version "2.25.9"
%% Start LSR snippet 888
%% http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=888
%LSR by Wolf Alight
%=>http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-02/msg00444.html
%=>http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-05/msg00800.html
%LSR modified by Alexander Kobel
%=>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/89675
%LSR modified by Thomas Morley
%=>http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/LyricText-center-on-word-breaks-lyricMelismaAlignment-tt183456.html
%% Note: Only characters of the string used to define space-set
%% are recognized by 'center-on-word'
#(define space-set
(list->char-set
(string->list ".?-;,:„“”‘’–— */()[]{}|<>!`~&…‥")))
#(define (width grob text)
(let* ((X-extent
(ly:stencil-extent (grob-interpret-markup grob text) X)))
(if (interval-empty? X-extent)
0
(cdr X-extent
#(define (center-on-word grob)
(let* ((text (ly:grob-property-data grob 'text))
(syllable (markup->string text))
(word-position
(if (string-skip syllable space-set)
(string-skip syllable space-set)
0))
(word-end
(if (string-skip-right syllable space-set)
(+ (string-skip-right syllable space-set) 1)
(string-length syllable)))
(preword (substring syllable 0 word-position))
(word (substring syllable word-position word-end))
(preword-width (width grob preword))
(word-width (width grob (if (string-null? syllable) text word)))
(note-column (ly:grob-parent grob X))
(note-column-extent (ly:grob-extent note-column note-column X))
(note-column-width (interval-length note-column-extent)))
(-
(*
(/ (- note-column-width word-width) 2)
(1+ (ly:grob-property-data grob 'self-alignment-X)))
preword-width)))
%% For general use this take this layout-setting
%% In the example below the override is applied to selected Lyrics only
%%
\layout {
\context {
\Lyrics
\override LyricText.X-offset = #center-on-word
}
}
%% End LSR snippet 888
sopranoOne = \relative bes' {
\time 3/2
R1*3/2*2 | bes2.\f c4 d2 | f2. es4 d2 \bar "||"
\time 2/2 \tempo \markup { "[" \smaller \note {1} #UP = \smaller \note {1.}
#UP "]" } 1=62
es1~\mp | es1 | d1 | r2 bes8[ c d es] f4. es8 d4 d |
\bar "|."
}
sopranoOneVerse = \lyricmode {
Ho -- di -- e, ho -- di -- e, Chri -- stus, na -- _ _ _ tus est,
No -- e, __ No -- e, No -- e, No -- e, No -- e, No -- e.
}
\score {
%\new ChoirStaff <<
\new Staff \with {
midiInstrument = "acoustic grand"
instrumentName = "Soprano I"
}
\new Voice = "soprano1" \sopranoOne
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "soprano1" { \sopranoOneVerse }
%>>
}
Re: Relative rhythms across bars for time changes?
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 8:15 AM Alasdair McAndrew wrote: > I'm typesetting some 16th century music which has a lot of time changes. > And I'd like to add equivalences of notes across bar-lines, to indicate for > example, that a quarter note in one bar is equal in time to a half note in > the next bar. > > The sort of notation I want is in this snippet: > > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-creating-metronome-marks-in-markup-mode > > However, I want that equals sign to be aligned with the barline. I have > two questions: (a) how can I do this? and (b) is there an easier way than > the markup given in the snippet? > I don't know of an automatic way to align the markup with the barline, but you could tweak the X-offset of the MetronomeMark to get it where you want.
Re: Mensural Lines in Choir Staff
\override Staff.BarLine.transparent = ##t
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 1:50 PM Johannes Roeßler wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> there is a nice example for "Mensurstriche"
>
> \layout { \context {\StaffmeasureBarType = "-span|" }}
> music = \fixed c'' { c1 d2 \section e2 f1 \fine}
> \new StaffGroup << \new Staff \music \new Staff \music>>
>
> Unfortunately it doesn't work in a \ChoirGroup
>
> Any idea?
> Best,
> Joei
>
>
Mensural Lines in Choir Staff
Hi guys,
there is a nice example for "Mensurstriche"
\layout{
\context{
\Staff
measureBarType="-span|"
}
}
music=\fixedc''{
c1
d2\sectione2
f1\fine
}
\newStaffGroup<<
\newStaff\music
\newStaff\music
Unfortunately it doesn't work in a \ChoirGroup Any idea? Best, Joei
Relative rhythms across bars for time changes?
I'm typesetting some 16th century music which has a lot of time changes. And I'd like to add equivalences of notes across bar-lines, to indicate for example, that a quarter note in one bar is equal in time to a half note in the next bar. The sort of notation I want is in this snippet: https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-creating-metronome-marks-in-markup-mode However, I want that equals sign to be aligned with the barline. I have two questions: (a) how can I do this? and (b) is there an easier way than the markup given in the snippet? Many thanks! cheers, Alasdair -- Alasdair McAndrew (he/him) mob: 0432 854 858 https://numbersandshapes.net
Re: Parenthesizing multiple events
Yes, I was thinking more about parenthesizing say a chord or a scale, rather than a head vs a flat/sharp sign. I think that next to a chord (say 8) I'd want parentheses around the heads, but not the stem, because it feels like an ascender like in your "flat" example Thanks Jean, L On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 11:58 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le vendredi 17 novembre 2023 à 11:44 +0100, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > Nice. Thanks Jean. This solves it for my current score > > In general, what's the background for this not working though? > You seem to imply it's intended behaviour that it would only work on a > single event, or am I misreading? > > > > The restriction is not parenthesizing a single event but parenthesizing a > single grob, because the parenthesis grob needs something to attach to. > Making a Parentheses spanner between two points of the score would be > theoretically possible to implement, it's just not implemented right now. > > Also, can't lilypond support a mechanism like TeX's \left \right system to > gauge delimiter sizes? > > > > It can — in fact, it has the \markup \parenthesize command. The issue with > (non-\markup) \parenthesize is that it is implemented by looking up font > glyphs according to font size, which works better in some contexts like > accidentals, because you want the parentheses on a flat to look like > > > > > and not > > > > Again, there's no theoretical limitation preventing auto-scaling, but it > might need a heuristic to decide when it's appropriate. > > -- Luca Fascione
Re: Parenthesizing multiple events
Le vendredi 17 novembre 2023 à 11:44 +0100, Luca Fascione a écrit : > Nice. Thanks Jean. This solves it for my current score > > In general, what's the background for this not working though? > You seem to imply it's intended behaviour that it would only work on a single > event, or am I misreading? The restriction is not parenthesizing a single event but parenthesizing a single grob, because the parenthesis grob needs something to attach to. Making a Parentheses spanner between two points of the score would be theoretically possible to implement, it's just not implemented right now. > Also, can't lilypond support a mechanism like TeX's \left \right system to > gauge delimiter sizes? It can — in fact, it has the \markup \parenthesize command. The issue with (non- \markup) \parenthesize is that it is implemented by looking up font glyphs according to font size, which works better in some contexts like accidentals, because you want the parentheses on a flat to look like and not Again, there's no theoretical limitation preventing auto-scaling, but it might need a heuristic to decide when it's appropriate. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Parenthesizing multiple events
Nice. Thanks Jean. This solves it for my current score In general, what's the background for this not working though? You seem to imply it's intended behaviour that it would only work on a single event, or am I misreading? Also, can't lilypond support a mechanism like TeX's \left \right system to gauge delimiter sizes? Cheers L On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 11:18 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le vendredi 17 novembre 2023 à 10:58 +0100, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > Try > > https://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=902 > > -- Luca Fascione
Re: Parenthesizing multiple events
Le vendredi 17 novembre 2023 à 10:58 +0100, Luca Fascione a écrit :
> Hi all,
> I noticed that in \chordmode the \parenthesize command only seems to word with
> one chord
>
> If I use
>
> \new ChordNames { \chordmode { \parenthesize a:m7 } }
>
> I get a chord in parentheses.
> If I use
>
> \new ChordNames { \chordmode { \parenthesize { a:m7 d:7} } }
>
> I do not get two chords in parentheses (chords are there but parens are not)
>
> Also,
>
> \new ChordNames { \chordmode { \parenthesize { a:m7 } } }
>
> produces the chord symbol and no parentheses
Try
https://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=902
> \parenthesisOpenSymbol also is rejected inside \chordmode
parenthesisOpenSymbol isn't relevant to what you're doing — it was a special
variable that you could configure in order to change the meaning of "(" from the
default meaning of "start slur".
It's also long been obsolete, the current syntax being
"(" = ...
(since 2.17.25).
Best,
Jean
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Re: MIDI Drums to lilypond
Yes, sorry. I did find that after typing the email... It is the GM mapping, it's just that I didn't want to retype it all by hand, if I could parse it from somewhere, you see Thanks! L On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 11:05 AM Mark Knoop wrote: > You'll find it in drumpitch-init.ly, I believe it's just the > standard General MIDI percussion keymap. > > At 10:52 on 17 Nov 2023, Luca Fascione wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm converting a MIDI file to lilypond with a drumset track. > > > My process goes through MusicXML, but the `musicxml2ly` script I have > > (2.22.2) emits pitches instead of percussion notes. > > > I can write a script to map those, but if anyone had a starting point, > > that'd be grand. > > > In my mind, the mapping lilypond uses to go from the percussion notes to > > its MIDI output is all I need (and then I can reverse that). If someone > > could get me a breadcrumb to that, that'd be grand. > > > Thanks > > Luca > > -- > Mark Knoop > -- Luca Fascione
Re: MIDI Drums to lilypond
You'll find it in drumpitch-init.ly, I believe it's just the standard General MIDI percussion keymap. At 10:52 on 17 Nov 2023, Luca Fascione wrote: > Hi, > I'm converting a MIDI file to lilypond with a drumset track. > My process goes through MusicXML, but the `musicxml2ly` script I have > (2.22.2) emits pitches instead of percussion notes. > I can write a script to map those, but if anyone had a starting point, > that'd be grand. > In my mind, the mapping lilypond uses to go from the percussion notes to > its MIDI output is all I need (and then I can reverse that). If someone > could get me a breadcrumb to that, that'd be grand. > Thanks > Luca -- Mark Knoop
Parenthesizing multiple events
Hi all,
I noticed that in \chordmode the \parenthesize command only seems to word
with one chord
If I use
\new ChordNames { \chordmode { \parenthesize a:m7 } }
I get a chord in parentheses.
If I use
\new ChordNames { \chordmode { \parenthesize { a:m7 d:7} } }
I do not get two chords in parentheses (chords are there but parens are not)
Also,
\new ChordNames { \chordmode { \parenthesize { a:m7 } } }
produces the chord symbol and no parentheses
\parenthesisOpenSymbol also is rejected inside \chordmode
Cheers
L
--
Luca Fascione
MIDI Drums to lilypond
Hi, I'm converting a MIDI file to lilypond with a drumset track. My process goes through MusicXML, but the `musicxml2ly` script I have (2.22.2) emits pitches instead of percussion notes. I can write a script to map those, but if anyone had a starting point, that'd be grand. In my mind, the mapping lilypond uses to go from the percussion notes to its MIDI output is all I need (and then I can reverse that). If someone could get me a breadcrumb to that, that'd be grand. Thanks Luca -- Luca Fascione
Re: Separation of the musical notation.
Thanks for the indication.
I did not know \markup could be used to place entire scores on the page.
Le 16.11.23 à 16:08, Kieren MacMillan a écrit :
Hi all,
No idea how to do it with Lilypond, may-be other people have an idea.
\version "2.25.2"
teststaff = \new Staff \repeat unfold 12 c''4
test = \new ChoirStaff << \teststaff \teststaff \teststaff >>
\markup {
\fill-line {
\score { \test }
\score { \test }
}
}
As for me, I would do this kind of thing using Lilypond to produce two separate
pages of smaller size, and use Scribus to arrange the partial PDF files on the
final page and produce the final PDF.
I think it’s ultimately easier to do it natively in Lilypond…?
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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