lilypond guis
Dave Phillips has a new installment and he highlights Denemo, Notedit, and Rosegarden notation tools. If you haven't seen it already here is the link: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8928 regards Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Windows GUI
Work has been done on a windows version, but not much success so far. In the near future we are planning a real push for getting Denemo up and running cross platform. Part of our limitation with windows is that the developers don't use windows so Mac and Linux are first up to bat. If you want to join in on development of a windows version, sign up for the dev list and ask for the compiled windows version and file bug reports. We really want Denemo to work on all platforms. BTW Denemo is undergoing a flurry of development now we have added more developers and there are a lot of suprises instore for Denemo. Denemo.sourceforge.net Best Wishes, Aaron --- beerslayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking at the Denemo site the other day, hoping to find a Windows version. If you know where there is one, I'd like to find it. I've never been able to get a compiler set up successfully on this machine, so I hope it's a precompiled binary rather than source. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Windows-GUI-t1078827.html#a3392632 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Using/installing help
Hi all, I must of missed something. I have been downloading the new installer and running it. I now can't use lilypond globally or locally. What I mean is if I type lilypond I get an older version of lilypond which was installed from cvs. when I move to the /usr/local/lilypond directory non of the scripts work for me either convert-ly and musicxml2ly. they complain about missing pieces. I see that there is a wrapper for python and guile. What am I supposed to be doing to get a normal behaviour from Lilypond? Thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Windows GUI
--- Folkert (sent by Nabble.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I justed installed Lilypond on my computer and now I'm looking for a windows graphical user interface. Everything I find on the net is either commercial, for linux or not being updated anymore. Hi a few caveats. If you use a graphical editor for lilypond, I recommend still learning to use it as text. Even the best gui will not be as flexible and as fast as entering text. That said there are a few ways you can go with a gui. 1. Install linux and use the gui enviroments there 2. Try out the new Denemo version (still untested) for windows. Denemo is I will warn you very different than any gui so it has a learning curve (entry is as quick or quicker than plain text) 3. Get any windows gui that exports to musicxml and convert the musicxml to lilypond. I myself haven't had so much success with musicxml2ly but I only tried it once. In theory this will permit you to use any gui. But a question just shouts to be asked, have you tried jedit and plain old text yet? tons of windows users who are used to a gui are now happily coding in plain old text, and never thought they would/could. I actually use Denemo so I am not against a gui, but the issue is that to get the most out of lilypond you still need to know lilypond. If you want to try the windows version of Denemo let me know I will be glad to get you a copy. Best wishes Aaron Any suggestions? So far I found 'Lilycomp', but I'm not satisified with it since it's still not WYSIWYG.. neither is it as comprehensive as NoteEdit (for Linux) for instance. Should I install Linux after all or is there a easier solution? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Windows-GUI-t1078827.html#a2810010 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
musicxml2ly doesn't work help
Hi all, I just installed the latest development package and ran musicxml2ly and got the following errors: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local//lilypond/usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 3, in ? import optparse File /usr/lib/python2.4/optparse.py, line 72, in ? try: File /usr/lib/python2.4/gettext.py, line 49, in ? import locale, copy, os, re, struct, sys ImportError: No module named struct [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/data2/bakup/projectnigun/notation/norai/finale/muxicxml# Is this something I am missing on my system? I am running ubuntu. thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
where is musicxml?
Hi all, I just installed the latest dev version using the grand installer. when I run musicxml2ly I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/data2/bakup/musicxml/bakup$ musicxml2ly evocation.xml Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/musicxml2ly", line 26, in ? import musicxml ImportError: No module named musicxml line 26 infact want to include musicxml. Is this something I am supposed to already have when I install with the grand installer or is it program I am obliged to install from elsewhere. I also noticed that the installer puts lilypond in /usr/share/lilypond/usr/bin it says it is linking with a script to /usr/bin but I find no such link: this left me with adding /usr/share/lilypond/usr/bin/ to my path, or making a soft link in /usr/bin or copying the binaries to /usr/bin/ Is there a cleaner way to install using the grand installer, that I am just missing? BTW I really like the newer versions of lilypond, kudo to Hans and all the developers :) Thanks Aaron Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
frustrated but seek style
Hi all, I have been using lilypond for a while and truthfully a few things would make me so much happier and less frustrated, one I have asked about but from past response sorta doubt anything will come of it. The other maybe. I use css and xml/html and love the ability to separate formating/style from content. This lets me create a style sheet and use it for multiple files. The style language is simple and clear without worring about making brakets match or having a plethora of tweaks for achieving things that should be common and standard. what I am asking for is a style sheet language where I can do something like the following. lyrics { position:relative; top3px: font-family:serif; font-style:bold; } title { font-family:sans-serif; font-size:bold; } etc. now I have to stick some things inside the markup, others in the paper block and others in the
layout block. and maybe others will require a scheme hack? I don't say the syntax of css is right for lilypond, I just am frustrated with having to fiddle to get style working and then only have it portable using includes... The other issue is one I brought up before: Instead of anything goes, have a clearly defined structure and syntax with rules. then the editors can intuitivly help with layout and a newbie won't need to flood the mailing list with needless (but needed) questions. To much freedom in this case I feel limits freedom. If anyone is interested in the first scenero I would be willing to join them in a feature request. Aaron
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Re: ugly song help
Richard Schoeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron,I just looked this with 2.6.4. The Hebrew lyrics do seem to come outmore squished together than the English. I was able to defeat this byusing: wow someone else doing hebrew lilypond on linux non the less!!I actually never fiddled with fonts on lilypond much because I am still trying to get nikud working, since the style for the hebrew In the nigunim always seems to use, nikud but I have yet to get it in place. I would gather that the culmus fonts will serve me better.\override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #1 I will read what graham suggested and see what 2.7 needs since I am using it.Otherwise, the ordering all seems OK. However, since most of the lyricsare a nigun I might be missing an ordering thing in
there (all those lili li's start to look and sound the same). BTW, this might work betterwith a different font. I am not convinced that the font metrics are allthat good for the Hebrew characters in the default sanserif font. I agree. Another thing I see is the same problem that I have had with markup.There is a real oddity with text segment placement with mixeddirectional text. So the title displays badly because No. 2, overlapswith L'cha Dodi. Yes and on my current keyboard the hebrew comma doesn't appear to work.but I never even paid attention to numbers... The poet also displays badly because of the comma inthe middle. The comma is taken as left to right between 2 segments ofright to left. Yuk! On the other hand the subtitle displays just finebecause it is all one direction.What I do to work around this is to break the markup into separatesegments in a \line specifier,
like so:title = \markup { \line { "No. 2" } { "××× ××××" } }To take care of the comma you also need to manipulate the intersegmentspacing of the markup.I have not yet tried out 2.7.*. So I don't know whether this is betterthere.I have included a tweaked version of this just to demonstrate theimprovements that can be had.BTW, pretty melody. Though I like more energetic nigunim for KabbalatShabbat.Another BTW, Evolution's text editor started to get really confusedabout directionality with all this mixed Hebrew and English. So if thiscomes out wierd... I ditched evolution for that reason, I have been using muttng with vim happily for some time now. Thanks AaronDick-- cut here --\header{title = \markup { \line { "No. 2" } { "××× ××××" } }subtitle = \markup { "×××××
פ×× ×ערער ×ס××××" }poet = \markup { \line { "××¢××××ש ××××" } \hspace #0.0 ","\hspace #0.0 { "×××פ××¢××××¢× ×¤×× ×" } }composer = " "meter = "Moderato"opus = ""arranger = " "instrument = ""dedication = " "piece = ""head = ""copyright = ""footer = ""tagline = ""}#(set-global-staff-size 16)#(set-default-paper-size "a4")melodynotes = {\override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #1\set Staff.midiInstrument = "acoustic grand"\time 2/4\key d \major\clef treble\repeat volta 2 {a'8 fis' b' a'16 g' |fis'8 a' a' d'' |a' fis' b' a'16 g' |fis'8 a' a' d'' |%5a' fis' b' a'16 g' |fis'8 d' e' d'}\alternative {{e'16 fis' g' fis' e'8
b' | a'2}{e'16 fis' g' fis' e'8 a' | d'2}}\break\repeat volta 2 {a'8 fis' b' a'16 g' |fis'8 a' a' d'' |a' fis' b' a'16 g' |fis'8 a' a' d'' |%5a' fis' b' a'16 g' |fis'8 d' e' d'}\alternative {{e'16 fis' g' fis' e'8 b' | a'2}{e'16 fis' g' fis' e'8 a' | d'2}}}\book {\score { {\melodynotes }\addlyrics {××¨× ×× ×× - ×× ××¨× ×× ×× ×× × ×× ×× - ×× ×ק ר×ת × ××××¨× ×× ×× - ×× ××¨× ×× ×× ×× ×¤×× ×© ×ת × ×§× Ö¾ ×× ×¤×× ×© ×ת × ×§× Ö¾ ×× tri li li - li tri li li li l' cha do - di lik rat ca lahtri li li - li tri li li li pnei sha bat n kab - lah pnei shabat n kab - lah } \layout { }}\score {\unfoldRepeats
{ \melodynotes }\midi {\tempo 4 = 72}}}-- cut here --On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 09:24 -0800, Aaron Mehl wrote: Hi all, I notated a song with lyrics which are crunched together. The code is below. I gather most of you won't be able to read the hebrew, but I would guess the same behaviour happens sometimes with english. The original song has all the eight notes and sixteenth notes with flags. While this may infact solve the problem, I don't like reading music with flags only, I find my eye
graphic with transparent background
Hi all, I am placing some of my notation on a web page. The site wants the graphics to have a transparent background so that their background will be seen through the music. Is there a way to do this from within lilypond/gs so that the graphic will ge generated with a transparent background? Thanks' Aaron Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
ugly song help
Hi all, I notated a song with lyrics which are crunched together. The code is below. I gather most of you won't be able to read the hebrew, but I would guess the same behaviour happens sometimes with english. The original song has all the eight notes and sixteenth notes with flags. While this may infact solve the problem, I don't like reading music with flags only, I find my eyes like beams. So is there an easy (I mean easy) way to make this look nice? I read about the possibility of setting the note value for spacing. Is this the way I should be going. I have many songs to set so if it requires some tweak I would probably want to put it in a variable, right. I hate to say this since I HATE Finale, but they had a feature which applied to the notation different spacing defaults. I haven't touched Finale in ages but it was as I recall, beat spacing, note spacing, measure
spacing. This would be a great feature to notate a piece and on the command line: lilypond -s beat mysong.ly lilypond -s measure mysong.ly maybe even with the ability to make the spacing apply to a range of measures. Aaron \version "2.7.15" \header{ title = " No. 2 " subtitle = " " poet = " , " composer =
" " meter = "Moderato" opus = "" arranger = " " instrument = "" dedication = " " piece = "" head = "" copyright = "" footer = "" tagline = "" } #(set-global-staff-size 16) #(set-default-paper-size "a4") \score { { \set Staff.midiInstrument = "acoustic grand" \time 2/4 \key d \major \clef
treble \repeat volta 2 { a'8 fis' b' a'16 g' | fis'8 a' a' d'' | a' fis' b' a'16 g' | fis'8 a' a' d'' | %5 a' fis' b' a'16 g' | fis'8 d' e' d'} \alternative {{e'16 fis' g' fis' e'8 b' | a'2} {e'16 fis' g' fis' e'8 a' | %10 d'2 }}}\addlyrics{ - -
- }\layout { }\midi { \tempo 4 = 72 } }
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Re: place prall
Thanks that did it Aaron --- D Josiah Boothby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might try treating them the same way you would any articulation, with _, -, or ^ depending on where you want it placed. I don't know offhand if this would work, though. Josiah On Sun, 6 Nov 2005, Aaron Mehl wrote: Hi, I think this is question of where to find this in the docs. I want to have a prall not be above the staff but be below the staff under the note head. What is it called to move the ornament? I looked in the docs but couldn't figure out what to call it. Thanks Aaron __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
faqs leftout
Hi I happened to look at the faqs and under guis Denemo wasn't mentioned at all. Is there a reason for this? or just an oversite? If its an oversite here's the address. denemo.sourceforge.net If its on purpose let us know why so we can fix/upgrade Denemo accordingly. best wishes Aaron __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
to the point
Hi, I was wondering if point and click could be used with acroread? If so what do I have to do to set it up. Thanks Aaron __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
place prall
Hi, I think this is question of where to find this in the docs. I want to have a prall not be above the staff but be below the staff under the note head. What is it called to move the ornament? I looked in the docs but couldn't figure out what to call it. Thanks Aaron __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Denemo
Just in case someones interested: -- Hi all, After a long period of time denemo 0.7.4 has been released. New features include : Help Documentation Support for exporting to Lilypond 2.6 All ornaments/articulations added Replace Mode Basic Redo/Undo Functionality for individual objects More Templates available Export to PDF (via lilypond processing) Courtesy of Jens Askengren -- For those how are looking for a gui. Aaron __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lyrics and notes end of line scrunch
Hi all, I have a song with lyrics which has one measure scrunched together. what I think happend was the for the lyrics to be spaced correctly the last note moved over until its almost touching the barline. I don't want to move the measure because each line has 6 measures already. what I guess I need to do is take some space from the previous measure and add it to this scrunched one. I am sorta confused how to acheive this in a graceful manner since the actual note spacing is fine, execept that the last note is to close to the barline. Any suggestions how to proceed with this would be most appreciated Aaron __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
keeping in step
I guess this question would be better on the devel list, but I am not subscribed to it. Denemo is looking for some automated way to keep instep with lilypond development. currently cvs is up to 2.6 but for denemo to be truely useful it needs to keep pace with lilypond. What we want to do is a python(?) script that will keep track of lilypond syntax changes on a regular basis. What is the best way to accomplish this? is the /ly directory the place to monitor or is there a better way. Thanks Aaron __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
word completion help
Hi all, I am having problems getting vim word completion to lilypond files. I hit ctrl+N and get very few choices to complete. I have checked the file lilypond-words.vim and it is full of choices. Just to check what is going on I renamed lilypond-words and lilypond-words.vim to other names. This didn't disable completion at all? Is there another file controlling word completion? how do I debug this? Thanks Aaron __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
incipit index help
Hi all,
A friend of mine who is a python person wrote a script
to create and index file from aprox the first 25 notes
of each lilypond file in a directory and dump them
into a lilypond file.
There are some problems such as what to do with
\repeats and \breaks but I resolved to edit the
resulting file manually.
my attempt at this has failed because I keep getting
an error that my {} aren't matching.
But look as hard as I can I just can't catch the
error.
If anyone is interested in the script I can post it to
a site on the net.
but here is the file that it generated after I removed
the repeats and breaks.
\version 2.7.6
\paper {
#(define dump-extents #t)
linewidth = 160\mm
indent = 0\mm
}
#(set-global-staff-size 14 )
\layout { raggedright = ##t }
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
\partial 8 e'8
a'4 gis'8 f' e'4. e'8 |
gis'16 gis'8. ~ gis'4. e'8 gis' b' |
\time 3/4 a' gis' f'4. e'8 |
%5
d'2 r8 e' |
\time 4/4 a'4. b'8 c''4 b'8 a' |
\time 3/4 gis'2. |
\time 4/4 a'4. b'8 c'' b' d''16 c'' b' a' |
gis'4. f'8 e'4. e'8 |
%10
e' f' gis'4
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
b4 b\override Script #'padding = #1 dis'\turn c'8
b |
e'1 |
fis'4 g' a' fis' |
g'1 |
%5
fis'4 g'8 a' g'4 fis' |
e'1
e'4 fis'8 g' fis'4 e'|
dis'1|
b4 b dis'\turn cis'8 dis'|
%10
e'1
b4 b dis'\turn c'8 b |
e'1\grace e'8 |
fis'4 g' a' fis' |
g'1\grace g'8 |
%15
fis'4 g'8
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
b8 e' g' b' ais' b' g' b' |
ais' b' g' b' a' g' fis' e' |
r d'' cis'' b' ais' g' fis' e' |
ais' cis'' b'2. |
%5
r8 e' g' b' ais' b' g' b' |
ais' b' g' b' a' g' fis' e' |
r g' a' b' a' g' fis' e' |
fis' g' e'2 ~ e'8 b' |
%repeat goes here
e''4. d''8\prall e''4. d''8\prall |
%10
\time 4/4 g'' fis'' e''4. d''8 cis'' d'' |
\time 3/4 e'' d'' cis''4. b'8 |
cis'' b' ais'4. g'8 |
\time 4/4 ais' b' cis'' b' ais'\prall g' fis' e' |
%firstending
ais' cis'' b'2.
%15
e''4. d''8\prall e''4. d''8\prall |
%10
\time 4/4 g'' fis'' e''4. d''8 cis'' d'' |
\time 3/4 e'' d'' cis''4. b'8 |
cis'' b' ais'4. g'8
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
\partial 8 b8
e'2 fis'16 e'8. fis'16 e'8.\grace e'8 |
dis'4. dis'8 b2 |
dis'16 b8. g'16 fis'8.\turn e'4. b16 b16 |
%5
\time 3/4 e'4 e'2 |
\time 4/4 fis'16 e'8. fis'16 e'8. dis'4 b4
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
\partial 8 b8 |
g'4 e' e' e'8\tenuto b |
g'4 e'4 e'8 fis'16 e'16 dis'8 b8 |
dis'8 fis' e'2 b4 |
%5
g' fis'8 e' fis'4 dis'8 b
dis' fis' e'2 b'4
ais'8. cis''16 b'4 b' b'8. b'16 |
ais'8. cis''16
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
\partial 8 d''8 |
d''8\override Script #'padding = #1 g''8\fermata r8
d''8 \grace { b'16([ c''16 d''16 e''16 ]) } d''4. b'8
|
\times 2/3 {b'8 d''8 c''8 } b'4. a'8 g'4 |
\grace d''8 d''8 g''8 r8 d''8 \grace { b'16([ c''16
d''16 e''16 ]) } d''4.
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
\partial 8 d''8 |
d''8\override Script #'padding = #1 g''8\fermata r8
d''8 \grace { b'16([ c''16 d''16 e''16 ]) } d''4. b'8
|
\times 2/3 {b'8 d''8 c''8 } b'4. a'8 g'4 |
\grace d''8 d''8 g''8 r8 d''8 \grace { b'16([ c''16
d''16 e''16 ]) } d''4.
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
\partial 8 b'8 |
e''2 b'4. b'8 |
\time 3/4 c''16 b' a'8 b'4. a'16 a'|
b'2 a'4 |
%5
\time 2/4 a'8\prall b'16 a' g'8 fis' |
\time 3/4 g'2 b'8 b' |
b'4. c''16 b' ais' b' \grace { \stemDown b'16[
ais'] } \stemUp c'' ais'
\time 2/4 fis'8 dis' r dis'16 dis' |
\time 3/4 dis'8 c'\prall b4 r8 b16 b |
%10
b4 c'32
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
e'2 g'8 e' b e' |
g'2 g' |
g' a'8 g' e' g' |
a'2 a' |
%5
a'4 b' g'2 |
g'4 a' \afterGrace e'2 {e'8} |
a'2 g'8. fis'16 e'8 fis' |
g'1 |
e'2 g'8 e' b e' |
%10
g'4. a'8 g'2 |
g' a'8 g' e' g' |
a'4 b'8 a' a'2 |
a'4
}
}
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
\clef treble
\partial 8 b8
e'2 g'8 e' b e' |
g'4 g'8. a'16
lilyvim
Hi all, a long time ago, I can't exactly remember when, I was using gvim to make web pages and installed a ftplugin to speed things up. At that time I decieded to copy his system of tag entry and use it with lilypond. I used it a bit and only recently when I had to collaborate with a friend who insists on not typing lilypond commands (if it aint a gui he don't want it) did I dust it off. I truthfully enjoy using gvim for editing lilypond files but have always felt that its potential hasn't been fully utilized. That said I am calling on anyone who uses vim for lilypond to join in and try out my ftplugin. And contribute suggestions and help to develop it. I have tempoarily posted it along with the original lilypond scripts etc from the source packages at: http://www.geocities.com/aamehl/ If there is enough interest I would gladly move it to a cvs hosted site such as sourceforge. What is really needed is some scripting work (python etc) to bring it up to the level of the jedit lilypondtools. But in the meantime, I felt I should give back something to the community. Aaron __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
pdf pickle
Hi all, I have a lily file that with png output I ended up with two documents. however the pdf ouput gives me a multipage pdf which I don't want how do I force the ps2pdf output to be two documents? thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
new apps?
Hi I just installed the latest dev of lilypond and with tab complete I notice some programs I hadn't seen before. lilypond lilypond-invoke-editor lilypond-2.7.10 lilypond-invoke-editor-2.7.10 lilypond-bin-2.7.10 lilypond-invoke-editor-bin-2.7.10 lilypond-book lilypond-ps2png lilypond-book-2.7.10 lilypond-ps2png-2.7.10 lilypond-book-bin-2.7.10 lilypond-ps2png-bin-2.7.1 What is lilypond invoke editor, I tried running it with a minus -h and got a guile error. Thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
graphics gripe
Hi all, I am trying to add lilypond output into scribus, my first choice would have been scribus, but scribus doesn't like lilypond svgs? My next choice is png but scribus complains they are to low resolution. so: 1. could someone else try an svg from lilypond and see if it works for them in scribus? If not this might be a bug. 2. is there a way to pass resolution parameters to the backend that is making the png files? thanks Aaron __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: graphics gripe
That's it thanks Aaron --- Kris Shaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use lilypond --png -dresolution=110 to get a 110DPI png image (Lilypond manual, section 5.2). Just adjust the resolution value accordingly. -- Kris Shaffer graduate student in music theory, Yale University co-editor-in-chief for music theory, AmSteg.org www.shaffermusic.com On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:49:06 -0400, Erik Sandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 September 2005 16.21, Aaron Mehl wrote: Hi all, I am trying to add lilypond output into scribus, my first choice would have been scribus, but scribus doesn't like lilypond svgs? I don't fully understand what you want, but if it's just that you need to import lilypond's output into scribus, then you can always import pdf or ps. And for png resolution: AFAIK, pngs are created from ps output, using gs. If you use lilypond --verbose, you'll see the actual gs command. You can change resolution by playing around with the parameters. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: graphics gripe
Well I was hoping to get an svg that would import, then I could use it also in xml and xhtml etc. but inkscape does open the svg output. The scribus developers said that they tested my svg file and it was the problem. however I didn't check one without lyrics maybe that is the issue. Aaron --- Erik Sandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 September 2005 16.21, Aaron Mehl wrote: Hi all, I am trying to add lilypond output into scribus, my first choice would have been scribus, but scribus doesn't like lilypond svgs? I don't fully understand what you want, but if it's just that you need to import lilypond's output into scribus, then you can always import pdf or ps. And for png resolution: AFAIK, pngs are created from ps output, using gs. If you use lilypond --verbose, you'll see the actual gs command. You can change resolution by playing around with the parameters. -- Erik __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: graphics gripe
Yes I can now that I read erik's email, The lilypond file in scribus looked like a few files mashed together, which I understand now is because the svg doesn't support mutiple pages. they ran it through a parser and got errors, which I assume had to do with the multiple page issue. I tried however a smaller file and it still didn't look good in scribus. I wonder if there is a way to save it with better settings in inkscape so scribus will read it? In either case I have switched from png to pdf for scribus and for the time being it is a better choice. If I had any money I would gladly join in to sponser better svg support but there is little hope of that... Aaron --- Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Mehl wrote: The scribus developers said that they tested my svg file and it was the problem. can you be more specific? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: svg stress
ok and thats all? no command to run to update the fonts? Thanks Aaron --- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Mehl writes: thanks what command do I then run to have the fonts updated? I'm being silly. You need to copy/symlink the .OTF fonts to ~/.fonts. No update command needed. The svg fonts are for embedding in the svg output only. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
pagebreak problem
Hi all, I have a document where one line falls on a second page. I tried the following: I reduced the #(set-global-staff-size 20 ) to #(set-global-staff-size 18) but that didn't help. I tried a noPageBreak before that line but when I looked at the pdf an additional line ran to the next page. There is enough room between staves however to steal room to fit that line in, but I am not sure how to sanely do this. if you need to see the file I will attach it later because it is a biggish file. Aaron __ Yahoo! for Good Watch the Hurricane Katrina Shelter From The Storm concert http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/shelter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
shortcut to repositioning turn?
Hi all, I know this has been asked many times before but this is a case of not searching for the right term in google. But what I am looking for is a simple way to adjust ornaments so they can appear inbetween notes. I realize there are tweaks galore but I would like a simple way to place ornaments between notes if that is at all possible. Thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: svg stress
from my local linux group and then run in that directory fc-cache Aaron --- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Mehl writes: thanks what command do I then run to have the fonts updated? I'm being silly. You need to copy/symlink the .OTF fonts to ~/.fonts. No update command needed. The svg fonts are for embedding in the svg output only. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: pagebreak problem
Thanks exactly what I wanted and btw one of the best written docs you have done, clear and to the point. :) Aaron --- Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11-Sep-05, at 7:55 AM, Aaron Mehl wrote: I have a document where one line falls on a second page. See the vertical spacing in the most recent version of the 2.7 manual; I added an example that does exactly what you want. Cheers, - Graham __ Yahoo! for Good Watch the Hurricane Katrina Shelter From The Storm concert http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/shelter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: shortcut to repositioning turn?
--- Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11-Sep-05, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mehl wrote:
But what I am looking for is a simple way to
adjust
ornaments so they can appear inbetween notes.
I realize there are tweaks galore but I would like
a
simple way to place ornaments between notes if
that is
at all possible.
Like this?
c1 {s2 s2\mordent}
I think that's the simplest method. One alternative
would be to use
something like
\markup { \hspace #5 \mordent }
Cheers,
- Graham
thanks
Aaron :)
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svg stress
Hi all, I converted to --backend svg but the resulting svg file comes out with square on staves. I am guessing that the lilypond svg fonts aren't found. I loaded the file into inkscape and scribus, with the same results, mozilla (adobe svg reader) gave me an error message that the fonts was missing. how do I resolve this? Thanks Aaron __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: svg stress
thanks what command do I then run to have the fonts updated? Aaron --- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Mehl writes: I am guessing that the lilypond svg fonts aren't found. how do I resolve this? Putting the svg fonts into ~/.fonts works on most fontconfig installations. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How can I avoid unicode and use Latin1? (Was: Wrong characters with jEdit)
Sorry for coming in at the end of the thread. I was wondering if on linux there is a way to get jedit to support hebrew with lilypond. I have been looking for that golden editor which is good for lilypond and good for hebrew. So far I remain with gvim, although emacs and jedit seem to have many more features for lilypond, they don't have the hebrew support. Aaron --- Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that's impressive. For Windows users -- suppose that the right environment variable has been set to signal to LilyPond the presence of various Windows font directories. Then is Pango actually able to do that sort of font substitution if the specified font name in a .LY file is that of a TTF font located in a Windows directory? Yes. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
glossary of incipits?
I have a book of songs and want to automatically generate a glossary (index?) of incipits (snippits). Is there a way to do this automatically? I will have many of these to do and I could do it once manually but would prefer a way to automatically do it. Thanks Aaron __ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text below staff ouch!
Did you try \justify-string or \wordwrap-string? See the example called markup-word-wrap.ly in the Regression Test document for version 2.7 to see what the different word wrapping commands do (though not for Hebrew). Thats where I got the examples I used from So far they don't work with the hebrew. Aaron Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text below staff ouch!
but now why can't I use word wrap and justify?
I don't usually read this list on the Web, I just
read the mail that
the list sends me -- and at this point I have lost
track of your
original post to the list.
fine I use mutt and use yahoo only for lilypond
because my private address doesn't work for this list.
I can send you the example to your email if you
promise to reply back to the group so that the answer
appears in the archives.
My mail client is plain-text only (Latin-1). Can
you post a message
containing a \markup command *without* word-wrap
justify which gets the
character-order right, and then, secondly, the
\markup command *with*
word-wrap justify, so that I can look at it?
You don't have to use the actual characters in the
two \markup examples.
You could just use ascii characters ABC...; it would
still show me
the structure of the command you're using.
Thanks for your patience...
-- Tom
Thank you
Aaron
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aaron Mehl wrote:
but actually for each word the letters are in
the
correct order but the words themselves go left
to
right instead of right to left.
With automatic text reversal, I would expect
\markup { ONE TWO THREE }
to produce
ENO OWT EERHT
exactly
which is what it does once I removed the
justification and wordwrapping
But, with a pair of quote-marks added, I would
expect
\markup { ONE TWO THREE }
to produce
EERHT OWT ENO
bravo!
In the first case, \markup handles 3 arguments,
one
after the other.
In the second case, \markup handles one single
argument.
but now why can't I use word wrap and justify?
maybe I need some escape charactor?
Thanks so far,
Aaron
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Re: text below staff ouch!
Well I have to admit I only tried two of the examples
\markup {
this is normal text
\override #'(linewidth . 60)
\wordwrap {
ABC cde
}
works and gives me edc CBA but for a long lines it
keeps going off the page (no word wrap?)I gather the
override linewidth should be set to something
different for this to work?...
}
\markup {
this is normal text
\override #'(linewidth . 40)
\justify {
ABC def
ABC def
ABC def
}
if I make separate lines they come out as a mess one
on top of the other.
}
\markup {
\override #'(linewidth . 40)
{ \wordwrap-string # ABC def
Here the word wrap does work but the word order for
hebrew comes out:
CBA fed (left to right word order right to left letter
order)
\justify-string #
ABC def
ABC def
ABC def
}
Here the justify works but on the english side not the
hebrew. The hebrew word order is also wrong:
CBA fed
CBA fed
CBA fed
(left to right word order right to left letter order)
I am sorry I didn't test this better previously.
So I can get the correct word order it is just the
justify and wordwrap that are acting flakey.
Thanks
Aaron
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Re: editor-lilypond quick parse
this functionality is already present. Just set the
toplevel-{music,book,text,score}-handler to
nop-functions.
I don't understand. What does this do? and where and
how exactly do I set this?
Thanks
Aaron
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Re: editor-lilypond quick parse
Hi
could you send an example of how to do this?
thanks
Aaron
--- Bertalan Fodor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this functionality is already present. Just set
the
toplevel-{music,book,text,score}-handler to
nop-functions.
Well, I see I must be more exact. I need a way to
find
not-layout-related problems. So bar check fails,
clashing voices,
unfinished beams also should count. As Erik pointed
out, leaving the
layout and the paper block out does what I need.
Bert
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extra verses below
Hi all, I remember that a while ago there was a thread on this but I can't seem to find it. I need to place the extra lyrics below the notation as blocks of text (not under the notation but way below as text). I am not even sure where to look this up in the docs. Is it text markup? Thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
text below staff ouch!
Hi again, I got the markup of text below the staff to work, but the hebrew is backwards, ouch. Is there a specific command I must type to get the text to bidi correctly? Thanks Aaron If an example is needed I can send a png, I am not sure how large attachments the list permits so I am leaving it off this email. Thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text below staff ouch!
the text layout is handled by Pango, so I guess it's a matter of passing the right options to Pango. I can look into it as a sponsored feature, if you like. yes how much would it cost? Aarn but actually for each word the letters are in the correct order but the words themselves go left to right instead of right to left. I am attaching a png if it will help (if you can read hebrew :) ) Aaron CAn you explain the problem more precisely: does Lily's hebrew go LtoR or RtoL, and should the bidi be switchable, or is there a sane default that we can use? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
editor-lilypond quick parse
Hi all, Is there a way to not have to reparse a file each time I want to view changes? Something where only the newest changes are parsed or the pdf is updated in almost realtime? I am using vim. Thanks Aaron Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: editor-lilypond quick parse
Hi again,
The problem is that I am not entering new music but
correcting existing notation, so that there are
already 50 measures written and I just corrected
measure 4.
but maybe it will help, I will give it a try I guess
if I just pretend that there is no music after measure
5 whats the difference.
HOWever this isn't what I meant by realtime updates.
there should be a way to do this...
Aaron
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wrote:
On Monday 22 August 2005 23.47, Aaron Mehl wrote:
Hi all,
Is there a way to not have to reparse a file each
time
I want to view changes?
Something where only the newest changes are parsed
or
the pdf is updated in almost realtime?
I am using vim.
If you're using 2.7, there is a command that helps
this. From the announcement
of v2.7.2:
* If `skipLastLength' is set, only the last few
measures of a piece
are rendered, which speeds up correcting
scores. For example,
setting
showLastLength = R1*5
\score { ... }
will render only the last five measures
(assuming 4/4 time
signature) of a piece.
--
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grace notes grumble
Hi all, I am having some challenges getting grace notes to do what I intended, with lyrics and also in combination. The first case is as follows: g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2 ya-leh with the slur the lyrics syllable is pushed to the next beat g'2\grace a'8 g'2| g'2 ya- leh tach without the slur the lyrics go right where they are supposed to. I am not sure the above examples will keep their formatting, but the bottom line is adding a slur changes where the lyrics are placed. How do I override this behaviour? Thats the first question now: If I place a gracenote and and afterGrace in the same measure lilypond gives me errors. I can't get the error to repeat right now to send the term output but the next time it happens I will post the error. Has anyone had similiar behaviour? thanks Aaron Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: grace notes grumble
indeed, but it's actually wrong, since grace notes are too short to sing a syllable on. I was hoping that was the answer I would get. I am notating folk songs where there is indeed such behaviour, i.e. the singer sings a syllable on a grace note. Since they aren't trained musicians, I can't force them to follow the rules, and since I am notating performance, I need to notate the syllable on the grace. However the problem isn't here the grace but the slur. As long as I don't use a slur things line up a ok. I will look at the other posts to see if they offer a solution. I forgot to mention the version I am using if it matters:GNU LilyPond 2.7.3 Also I didn't post the source since the lyrics are in hebrew, if it is relevent I can output a png. aaron Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: grace notes grumble
Hi again hmn... g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2 ya-leh What exactly is the slur here telling lilypond? slur+lyric=? It is obvious now that indeed the grace note is not the issue, but the slur certainly is. The proof is once I remove the slur all is well. Maybe I should use a differnt slur, I wonder if \( still exists. I will see if this helps. Aaron with the slur the lyrics syllable is pushed to the next beat This has nothing to do with grace notes; this is the default behavior of lyrics. To change this, see 7.3.5 Flexibility in alignment in lily 2.7. -- I'm pretty certain that this is something that's new to 2.7. Cheers, - Graham Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: grace notes grumble
Yes indeed, what would be nice would be another type of slur for melismata. or maybe have a slur in the lyrics block, that would make it an explicit slur for lyrics. Aaron indeed, but it defeats the purpose of the automatic melismata, which is that you don't have to worry about this kind of stuff. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
compare lily was Re: unsolicited praise =)
Well, I looked at the comparison and my first reaction is that this is not a fair deal. They compare gui notation packages with lily? What about a mup/abcm2ps/guido/musictex/philipswriter etc comparison to lilypond. Then we are comparing apples to apples. BTW some of the outputs in the pdf comparisons were stinky. LilyPond really does look better then most of those compared. that said no word on comparing to SCORE.. Aaron --- Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JN == Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JN Hans Aberg writes: If somebody is interest in a comparison, one has had a thread in the Usenet newsgroup rec.music.theory with the same music piece being typeset in seven different programs, including LilyPond. JN Yes. Unfortunately, an older version of LilyPond was used. 2.4.5 isn't that old. Some of us haven't really managed a working version of 2.6 yet. And most of what good things I've heard about 2.6 from the people who have one wouldn't really affect this score. That being said, of course it would have been better if the poster had posted the source so that someone with a newer version could have easily converted it (if it's something the converter bothers with) and demonstrated the latest and greatest. For those who just want to see the pdf's and not read the whole thread, I've posted links to them on my blog http://www.laymusic.org/blosxom-static/publishing. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097fax: (501) 641-5011 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user __ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: grace notes grumble
Note that the current default behaviour in LilyPond corresponds to the typesetting practice used in most printed music. Yeah I know I will play with phrsing slurs, which I didn't see in the doc for the latest development version, I hope they still exist. Aaron /Mats Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: compare lily was Re: unsolicited praise =)
I was thinking, why don't we just send the challenge to the maintainers of each of those packages. Is there a way to do it as a group. I mean not Laura Conrad, Hans, Aaron etc but the lilypond users or maybe send it back to the original person who did the first 6? Aaron --- Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AM == Aaron Mehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AM They compare gui notation packages with lily? AM What about a mup/abcm2ps/guido/musictex/philipswriter AM etc comparison to lilypond. I'd be interested in that, too. But so far not interested enough to actually type in the abc or musixtex. The other thing I'd be interested in is for each system, seeing both the first pass, where you get what the system gives you with no tweaking, right after you enter the notes right, and the best effort where someone has fixed everything up. I would expect lily to do really well on the first pass comparison. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097fax: (501) 641-5011 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 I lost mail from Friday, August 5 to Sunday August 7, so if you sent me anything then, you'll have to resend. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: grace notes grumble
Yeah I just looked at slurs and didn't see a link at
the bottom of the page to phrasing slurs
but now I see it.
thanks
:{)
Aaron
--- Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 18-Aug-05, at 6:25 AM, Aaron Mehl wrote:
will play with phrsing slurs, which I didn't see
in
the doc for the latest development version, I hope
they still exist.
Umm... 6.4.3? It's the section right after slurs.
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eps error
I tried putting an eps file in my header. I infact
couldn't figure out how to do it until I looked in the
regression tests. That said lilypond itself didn't
scream at me but this is what I got,
1st the header:
subtitle = \markup { \epsfile #numberframe.eps }
then the error:
$ lilypond
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.7.3
Processing
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16][17]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][12][15][17]
Interpreting music...
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ps'...
MIDI output to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.midi'...
Track...
Converting to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.pdf'...
`gs -q -dSAFER -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4
-sPAPERSIZE=a4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200
-sDEVICE=pdfwrite
-sOutputFile=e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.pdf
-c .setpdfwrite -f
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ps'
failed (256)
error: failed files:
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly
theone ly $
my original eps was made with gimp so for this test I
used a eps converted from tiff2ps the eps2eps (I read
the thread about a problem with epses from the gimp)
Really was appears to be needed is support within
lilypond for a wide range of graphic formats.
Does anyone else need this and is willing to join in
to sponser this feature?
Also who would determine how much it would cost to add
full graphic support?
Thanks
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Re: eps error
Well I made an eps not from the gimp and got the same
error...
Is my syntax for including the eps file ok??
Thanks
Aaron
--- Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There seems to be some problem with including EPS
files from
GIMP, see
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-08/msg00141.html
There are a number of different programs available
to convert between
different graphics formats. On Linux, for example,
the command 'convert'
from the ImageMagick package is extremely
convenient. I don't think it's
a good idea to try to include support for a lot of
different graphics
formats within LilyPond. (Even if it's implemented
by a call to
'convert' or some other external program, it will
introduce yet another
dependency that can cause trouble for people who
want to install
LilyPond and for the LilyPond maintainers.)
Still, the bug in \epsfile should be fixed, of
course.
/Mats
Aaron Mehl wrote:
I tried putting an eps file in my header. I infact
couldn't figure out how to do it until I looked in
the
regression tests. That said lilypond itself didn't
scream at me but this is what I got,
1st the header:
subtitle = \markup { \epsfile #numberframe.eps }
then the error:
$ lilypond
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.7.3
Processing
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16][17]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][12][15][17]
Interpreting music...
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ps'...
MIDI output to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.midi'...
Track...
Converting to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.pdf'...
`gs -q -dSAFER -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4
-sPAPERSIZE=a4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200
-sDEVICE=pdfwrite
-sOutputFile=e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.pdf
-c .setpdfwrite -f
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ps'
failed (256)
error: failed files:
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly
theone ly $
my original eps was made with gimp so for this
test I
used a eps converted from tiff2ps the eps2eps (I
read
the thread about a problem with epses from the
gimp)
Really was appears to be needed is support within
lilypond for a wide range of graphic formats.
Does anyone else need this and is willing to join
in
to sponser this feature?
Also who would determine how much it would cost to
add
full graphic support?
Thanks
Aaron
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Re: eps error
Well I made an eps not from the gimp and got the same
error...
Is my syntax for including the eps file ok??
Thanks
Aaron
ps.
I would settle for a few graphic formats svg,png eps
maybe as a plugin or someway where it is not adding
extra dependecies for those who don't need it.
Aaron
--- Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There seems to be some problem with including EPS
files from
GIMP, see
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-08/msg00141.html
There are a number of different programs available
to convert between
different graphics formats. On Linux, for example,
the command 'convert'
from the ImageMagick package is extremely
convenient. I don't think it's
a good idea to try to include support for a lot of
different graphics
formats within LilyPond. (Even if it's implemented
by a call to
'convert' or some other external program, it will
introduce yet another
dependency that can cause trouble for people who
want to install
LilyPond and for the LilyPond maintainers.)
Still, the bug in \epsfile should be fixed, of
course.
/Mats
Aaron Mehl wrote:
I tried putting an eps file in my header. I infact
couldn't figure out how to do it until I looked in
the
regression tests. That said lilypond itself didn't
scream at me but this is what I got,
1st the header:
subtitle = \markup { \epsfile #numberframe.eps }
then the error:
$ lilypond
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.7.3
Processing
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16][17]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][12][15][17]
Interpreting music...
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ps'...
MIDI output to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.midi'...
Track...
Converting to
`e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.pdf'...
`gs -q -dSAFER -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4
-sPAPERSIZE=a4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200
-sDEVICE=pdfwrite
-sOutputFile=e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.pdf
-c .setpdfwrite -f
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ps'
failed (256)
error: failed files:
e4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly
theone ly $
my original eps was made with gimp so for this
test I
used a eps converted from tiff2ps the eps2eps (I
read
the thread about a problem with epses from the
gimp)
Really was appears to be needed is support within
lilypond for a wide range of graphic formats.
Does anyone else need this and is willing to join
in
to sponser this feature?
Also who would determine how much it would cost to
add
full graphic support?
Thanks
Aaron
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image into header
Hi I am formmating a book and need to have an image on the top of each page. I would like to add it to one of the header tags. How do I do this? a quick perusal of the docs doesn't yield me the answer to this question or did google. Thanks Aaron Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: image into header
Yeah I saw that so my only option is eps? what about svg? png? Thanks Aaron --- Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I happened to send the email before it was finished. Read in 10.1.13 Creating titles on how to redefine what's printed in the page header. Then, browse through the list in 8.1.7 Overview of text markup commands to find out how to include an EPS file with the image. /Mats Aaron Mehl wrote: Hi I am formmating a book and need to have an image on the top of each page. I would like to add it to one of the header tags. How do I do this? a quick perusal of the docs doesn't yield me the answer to this question or did google. Thanks Aaron Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: multiple pieces together
Wow this is exactly what I am trying to do.
I have 16 songs with titles and lyrics that I want to
put one after the other.
I did:
\version 2.7.2
\paper{ printallheaders}
\score { \include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/a4gis8e4.e8gis16gis8.gis4.e8f4.e8d2a4.b8c4b8gis2.a4.b8d16gis4.f8e4e8gis4f8-ra.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aab4c8e1fis4g1fis4g8g4e1e4fis8fis4dis1b4cis8e1b4b8e1b4.b8e2a4g1fis4-tb.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aab8b2.e2e8e4.d8e4.d8e4.d8cis4.b8ais4.g8b2b8b8fis8e2e4a8a4.g8a4.g8-ra.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aab8e2fis16e8.fis16e8.dis4b2dis16b8.g16fis8.e4.b8e8.b16e8e4.e2fis16e8.fis16e8.dis4b4.-tb.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aab8g4e8g4e4e8fis16e16dis8b8dis8e2b4fis8fis4dis8e2b4dis8e2b4ais8.cis16b4b8.-mh.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aad8d8g8d8b16c16d16e16d4.b8b8d8c8b4.a8g4d8d8g8d8b16c16d16e16d4-zl.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aad8d8g8d8b16c16d16e16d4.b8b8d8c8b4.a8g4d8d8g8d8b16c16d16e16d4.-zl.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aae2b4.b8c16a8b4.a16b2a4a8b16g8g2b8b4.c16a8dis16d8b4b16b4c32g16g8-ra.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aae2g8g2a8a2a4g2g4e2g8.fis16e8g1e2g8g4.a8g2a8a4b8a2a4g2g4-tm.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aae2g8g2a8a4.b8a2a4g2g4e2g8.fis16e8.fis16g2.b4e2g8g4.a8g2g4.a8g4.-sc.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aae4.dis16e4.dis8e4.fis8g4.b8e4.dis16e4.dis8e4.fis8g4.b8g4e16e8.fis4e2fis4g2b4g2-ra.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aae4.fis8g4b16e4.fis8g4e4.fis8g4e1e4.fis8g4g8a4g2e4.fis8g4g8a4g2e4.fis8-ng.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aae4e8a4gis8e4gis8.gis16gis4gis8.e16a8d4d8.d16e2.e16a8.gis16a8c8.b16c8b4b8b8.-ra.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aae8g8.fis16e4.fis8g8.fis16e4.g16.fis32e16g4b4.b8g4a8a4a8a4b16.a32g16e4g8b4-zl.ly}
\score { \\include
/demudi/projectnigun/notation/norai/lily/ly/aafis8e16fis4fis8g4fis8e16fis4fis8fis4fis16fis8g4b8g16fis16e16g8e2.e8g4g8a16fis8fis4-ra.ly}
I used both \book {} and no book. I tried it with
\include and \score {\include }
When I remove the \score{} lily complains it can't
find the files. When I add the \score lily complains
about the headers
I am attaching two of the files.
Thanks
Aaron
--- Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2-Aug-05, at 2:37 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Graham Percival wrote:
Basically, the current situation is that I have
A.ly and B.ly. They
both produce
the output I want; I'm happy with them, etc. Can
I put A.ly and B.ly
together
so that I get one pdf with pagenumbers?
\include A.ly
\include B.ly
produce two separate .pdfs;
Are you sure? Do you use \book within A.ly and/or
B.ly?
(discussion moved to -user)
Aha, that was the problem! -- but all is still not
perfect.
Using \include should be completely equivalent to
cutting and
pasting the code of the two files into a new
common file.
Ok, I can get a.ly and b.ly in the same file, but
now there's problems
with
the headers -- the headers in b.ly overwrite the
ones in a.ly, and the
breakbefore doesn't work. \paper{ printallheaders}
doesn't seem to
work here; it was created with \book{} in mind.
Here's my minimal example: a and b combined in c.
Would it be easier
to change the behavior of headers in a non-\book{}
environment, or
easier
to make a different kind of \include{} command (such
that it would work
inside a \book environment) ?
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\header{%Slach Nah Ashamos
title = \markup {\fontsize #4
\override #'(font-name . dglsystem error)
{× × ×¡×× × × }
}
poet =
composer =
meter = Andante
%done but needs words
}
%done
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key a \minor
\clef treble
r2 r4 r8 e' |
a'4 gis'8 f' e'4. e'8 |
gis'16 gis'8. ~ gis'4. e'8 gis' b' |
\time 3/4 a' gis' f'4. e'8 |
%5
d'2 r8 e' |
\time 4/4 a'4. b'8 c''4 b'8 a' |
\time 3/4 gis'2. |
\time 4/4 a'4. b'8 c'' b' d''16 c'' b' a' |
gis'4. f'8 e'4. e'8 |
%10
e' f' gis'4 f'8 e' f' d' |
e'2. r4 |
\time 3/4 r a' gis'8 f' |
gis'4 gis'4. f'8 |
e'4 e' e' |
%15
r e' e' |
Re: multiple pieces together
Well I tried it, maybe not correctly and I got the
following on running lilypond on the file itself:
ilypond
a4gis8e4.e8gis16gis8.gis4.e8f4.e8d2a4.b8c4b8gis2.a4.b8d16gis4.f8e4e8gis4f8-ra.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.7.3
Processing
`a4gis8e4.e8gis16gis8.gis4.e8f4.e8d2a4.b8c4b8gis2.a4.b8d16gis4.f8e4e8gis4f8-ra.ly'
Parsing...
a4gis8e4.e8gis16gis8.gis4.e8f4.e8d2a4.b8c4b8gis2.a4.b8d16gis4.f8e4e8gis4f8-ra.ly:9:0:
error: syntax error, unexpected \header
\header{%Slach Nah Ashamos
a4gis8e4.e8gis16gis8.gis4.e8f4.e8d2a4.b8c4b8gis2.a4.b8d16gis4.f8e4e8gis4f8-ra.ly:10:25:
error: unknown escaped string: `\fontsize'
title = \markup {
\fontsize #4
error: errors found, ignoring music expression
error: failed files:
a4gis8e4.e8gis16gis8.gis4.e8f4.e8d2a4.b8c4b8gis2.a4.b8d16gis4.f8e4e8gis4f8-ra.ly
\version 2.7.2
\paper{printallheaders = ##t}
%done
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\score {
{
\header{%Slach Nah Ashamos
title = \markup {\fontsize #4
\override #'(font-name . dglsystem error)
{#1504;#1488; #1505;#1500;#1495;
#1504;#1488; }
}
poet =
composer =
meter = Andante
%done but needs words
}
\set Staff.midiInstrument = oboe
\time 4/4
\key a \minor
\clef treble
r2 r4 r8 e' |
a'4 gis'8 f' e'4. e'8 |
gis'16 gis'8. ~ gis'4. e'8 gis' b' |
\time 3/4 a' gis' f'4. e'8 |
%5
d'2 r8 e' |
\time 4/4 a'4. b'8 c''4 b'8 a' |
\time 3/4 gis'2. |
\time 4/4 a'4. b'8 c'' b' d''16 c'' b' a' |
gis'4. f'8 e'4. e'8 |
%10
e' f' gis'4 f'8 e' f' d' |
e'2. r4 |
\time 3/4 r a' gis'8 f' |
gis'4 gis'4. f'8 |
e'4 e' e' |
%15
r e' e' |
r a' gis'8 f' |
gis'4 gis'4. f'8 |
e'4 e' d'16 e' f'8 |
e'2. |
%20
\time 3/4 r4 a' gis'8 f' |
gis'4 gis'4. f'8 |
e'4 e' d'16 e' f'8 |
e'4 e' e' |
r a' gis'8 f' |
%25
gis'4 gis'4. e'8 |
b'4 b'8 a' gis' f' |
gis' f' e'2 |
a'4. gis'8 a' gis' |
a'4. gis'8 a' gis' |
%30
a'4. gis'8 b' a' |
gis'4. f'8 e' f' |
r4 gis' a' |
gis'4. f'8 gis' f' |
r4 e' e' |
%35
r e' e' |
e'2. \bar |.
}
\addlyrics {
#1505; #1500;#1495; #1504;#1488; _ _ #1488;
#1513; #1502;#1493;#1514; #1493; _ #1508;#1513;
#1506;#1497; #1500; #1488; #1502; #1498;
#1500;#1506; #1493;#1503; _ _ #1489;
#1504;#1497; #1498; #1488;#1497;#1497; - - - - -
- - - - - #1489;#1500; #1497; #1495;
#1512;#1492; #1494;#1506; - #1502; - #1498;
}
\layout {
}
\midi {
\tempo 4 = 72
}
}
Thanks
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svg scrunch
Hi all I am trying to create an svg file from a simple
lilypond score using the latest development version
and I get the following error:
Calculating page breaks...
/usr/share/lilypond/2.5.30/ly/init.ly:36:1: error:
GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning
here
#
(if (pair? toplevel-scores)unbound variable:
output-framework
/usr/share/lilypond/2.5.30/ly/init.ly:36:5: error:
syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting '='
#(if
(pair? toplevel-scores)
error: failed files:
e8e8e8e8c8c4.b8.a16g8a8b2d8d8d8d8d4.c8b8.a16g8fis8e2e8e8e8-zl.ly
Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
thanks
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header font selection
Hi I am trying to change the font for the header.
I tried adding \override #'(font-name . System
error)
but was told that I should not have a score block...
I even tried encasing it with markup, but markup it
seems isn't allowed in the header.
I then tried
\layout {
% change for other default global staff size.
myStaffSize = #20
#(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree DGL System error Black Ink
(/ myStaffSize 20
)))
}
but I saw no change of font although I didn't get an
error. I am not sure that this affect the title fonts
in the header at all.
What must I do to get the DGL System error.ttf font to
be the font for my title = ?
I also want a different font for subtitle =
Thanks
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Hi all, just a quick question, I see the new version of development is out. But on the download page is no mention of the installer for linux. Could it a link be added to the download page? thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
style sheet?
Hi all,
I need a way to have one file like a style sheet where
I can define a font for the title and different font
for subtitle, and different font for markup and
another font for lyrics.
Then have all the files in a project or using lilypond
book source that file.
I would also like to predifine other things such as
the distance of markup from the top of the highest
note etc.
this file should be a \layout {} ? or a \paper?
how should it be structured and for 2.5.30 what is
the best way to define the fonts?
Thanks
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gnome and lilypond
Hi all, A question and a comment. What is the gnome integration for lilypond all about? Are there docs about this, and where? I previously sent in syntax highlighting file for gedit/lilypond. I am now sending a taglist file which will need to be placed in gedits /taglist directory. This file contains many of the common tags but hardly all. This with the syntax highlighting file is a beginning towards making gedit an additional editor choice for lilypond If there is someone on the list who knows gnome and or gedit and can write code in C, and would be willing to work on a lilypond plugin for gedit, with me, I would most appreciate it. Thanks Aaron __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html Lilypond.tags Description: 850400593-Lilypond.tags ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: gnome and lilypond
--- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Mehl writes: What is the gnome integration for lilypond all about? Not much ado. There is an experimental gnome backend that can display the music, not for general use. There is now an installer that adds gnome menu/desktop entries. There is no working mime type support. Are there docs about this, and where? Not really. I previously sent in syntax highlighting file for gedit/lilypond. Great. I sent a patch for +LINE:COLUMN placement, that may go into gedit 2.10. I am now sending a taglist file which will need to be placed in gedits /taglist directory. This file contains many of the common tags but hardly all. Have you seen buildscripts/lilypond-words.py? That is used by the emacs and vim modes. Yes but I don't see how to make this work with gedit I ultimetly would like there to be autocompletion, but have no idea I opened a few plugin files for gedit, it is very easy to add menu/toolbar items, but since I have no idea of C programming or gnome I am stuck on functions to run lilypond, play midi via timidity view dvi, ps and pdf as well click and play etc. Aaron Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
was Re: fonts fun now new installer
So extremely neat to have this crazy amazing installer. Kol ha Kavod. (You guys did a great job) Aaron --- Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to use 2.5, you should definitely use one of the most recent ones, for example 2.5.19. Why not even try the new installer for Linux that was announced today, see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2005-06/msg00081.html __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lay out
continued from preious email that yahoo sent accidently before I finished :( If a structural wish list was allowed however here is what I would want. 1. A real separation of content and formatting. This means that a lilypond file would have no formatting in it at all. A seperate style sheet would be the place for this. The advantage is that if you have style tweaks for multiple docs only one file is needed to apply these tweaks to all files. This might require the addition of attributes to permit lower level styles in and external file... 2. A fixed and clearly defined structure which takes into account the possible structural pieces that different scores can contain. \piece \movement \phrase \motiv \chorus etc. This I know is a fundamental change in the structure of lilypond and possibly(probably) hard to impose on the already existing structure. Truthfully \score etc doesn't say much about the structure of a composition but are rather containers for data types to be parsed. This thread was started to understand and I hope document the file structure. I would like to see actually a diagram of how and in what order each block (container of data) is parsed in lilypond as well as what block is processed first second etc. Aaron ( __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
making 2.5.27 (or should I say not making?)
Hi all, After testing 2.5.15 I decieded to install 2.5.27. but it failed on the following: ython2.3 -O2 -finline-functions -g -pipe -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -DXTHREADS -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -W -Wall -Wconversion -o out/includable-lexer.o includable-lexer.cc includable-lexer.cc: In member function `void Includable_lexer::new_input(String, Sources*)': includable-lexer.cc:67: error: `yy_buffer_stack' undeclared (first use this function) includable-lexer.cc:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) includable-lexer.cc:67: error: `yy_buffer_stack_top' undeclared (first use this function) make[1]: *** [out/includable-lexer.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/disks/hda2/bakup/tars/lilypond- /lily' make: *** [all] Error 2 theone:/disks/hda2/bakup/tars/lilypond-2.5.27# What am I missing? Thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: making 2.5.27 (or should I say not making?)
Thanks for the response, I did it but it didn't seem to make a difference.. I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -W -Wall -Wconversion -o out/includable-lexer.o includable-lexer.cc includable-lexer.cc: In member function `void Includable_lexer::new_input(String, Sources*)': includable-lexer.cc:67: error: `yy_buffer_stack' undeclared (first use this function) includable-lexer.cc:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) includable-lexer.cc:67: error: `yy_buffer_stack_top' undeclared (first use this function) make[1]: *** [out/includable-lexer.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/disks/hda2/bakup/tars/lilypond-2.5.27/lily' make: *** [all] Error 2 theone:/disks/hda2/bakup/tars/lilypond-2.5.27# Thanks Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lay out
Ok I am now getting both unconfused and confused.
But both paper and layout deal with layout.
I see that structure in lilypond is not a
documentation structure. ie a programmers structure.
If I were to build a document I would have formatting
for the page or the entire document and formatting for
the section.
My confusion is that lilypond leave the creation of
sections etc to the user in a way.
The logic is not one of nesting I gather but how
things are processed, as in python where each part is
processed going down the page and inner brackets are
done in a certain order.
I could then have I gather
layout anywhere in a document.
I would hate to hazard a guess that paper could also
appear anywhere?
What happens is that the terms become unclear and the
usage blurry.
I would love to see lilypond seperate presentation
from content, the truth is with includes it is
possible now, I guess.
That said
\layout {}
\score {
\layout {}
\score{
\layout {}
}
}
would format each subscore.
Now for different movements of one piece would I use
multple \score blocks or are there real structural
block in lilypond?
Pesonally I find the structure and usage of \paper and
\layout a but confusing but now that I look at it from
a programmers perspective I at least understand the
logic.
however some rules such an not allowing \score
{\paper{}
\score {
\paper {}
}}
would help to unconfuse, unless it already works that
way.
I will experiment and get back to the list soon.
Aaron
--- Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Graham Percival wrote:
On 4-Jun-05, at 4:31 PM, Aaron Mehl wrote:
So am I able to generalize from this that layout
replaces paper (you said not and the docs still
say
that paper is still in?)
There is currently a \paper{} and \layout{}. I
really don't
want to talk about anything that happened before
2.4, because
I really don't know what the relationship is.
See
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-04/msg00147.html
with follow-ups for some input.
/Mats
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Re: lay out
Well, I did some testing and lilypond doesn't like nesting but it produces output in some instances. What I get from this and the more pictures thread is that some rules and I mean rules would help the beginner. ie this is how you build a vocal score, a piano score etc. would ease the entry to beginners. When all is said and done it is still not trivial to create a score from scratch. What about an abstraction level where lilypond --level-beginner would read a new type of structed lilypond for beginners where only a fixed structure is allowed. \version \layout \header \score \midi and make the structure as clear and easy as possible. then there could be abstraction levels for intermediate which will allow more freedom etc. -- If a structural wish list was allowed however here is what I would want. 1. A real separation of content and formatting. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lay out
Well this seems to imply: forget being able to build
a lilypond file from scratch, you must start from a
template or all is lost.
Infact for the majority of my Lilypond experience I
relied on templates for creating scores.
What this did was limit my ability to make a score do
exactly what I wanted.
So in the 2.4 series lilypond I was eventually able to
create my own template. Still I was never exactly sure
why it worked and others I tried didn't...
An abstraction layer would be nice with a clearly
defined structure and it would also be nice to be able
to seperate content from formatting
Although I don't care so much how Lilypond is
structured so long as I understand it and can
reproduce it, which I currently can't do consistantly.
I also haven't seen templates without the x=y
structure
although I think I am close to getting it working in
the development version.
Aaron
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templates much more
and then to grow the section from that. Some of the
examples in the
docs could use more commenting too, especially
labeling to show what
in the text is referring to what in the example.%}
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Re: doc help: reminder
Thanks I saw. I am still trying to figure out if there are required elements in a lilypond file and if they must occur in a certain place or not. I started writing a file structure section for the docs but am stuck on this. Aaron --- Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently there's been some discussion about helping with the docs. Great! If you're interested, please see this page: http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding In other words, the only thing you need to do is send an email. I've tried to make it as easy as possible to contribute to the docs. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: doc help: reminder
Ok I finally got it the shortcut {} was making me
crazy.
So a first rule is every lilypond file must have a
score block. Its correlary is that it can be written
out or in a shortcut.
Great.
Now I will go back to the other thread for other
questions so as not to confuse me and anyone else.
Thanks
Aaron
--- Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4-Jun-05, at 1:07 PM, Aaron Mehl wrote:
I am still trying to figure out if there are
required
elements in a lilypond file
You need a score. It can be explicit,
\score{
blah blah
}
or you can use a shortcut
{
c'4
blah blah
}
which adds the \score{} part automatically.
and if they must occur in
a certain place or not.
It doesn't matter where they go, but if you use
identifiers
cellomusic= { blah blah }
then the identifiers have to be defined before you
use them
\cellomusic
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Re: lay out
Hi Graham and list,
I did as you said and did a convert-ly on the file.
it basically replaced paper with layout and removed
the notes block but I see a second set of brackets.
--
\version 2.2.0
\header{
title = Zachrenu
poet = Machzor Yom Kippur
composer = Yechiel Halpern
meter = Andante
}
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\score {
\notes {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = acoustic grand
\time 4/4
\key a \minor
\clef treble
e'4 e''8 c'' b' a' b' c'' |
a'4 a' a' a' |
gis'8 a' b' c'' b' gis' a' f' |
e'4 gis'8. gis'16 gis'4 gis'8. e'16 |
%5
a'8 gis' a' f' e' d' f' a' |
d'4 d' d' d'8. d''16 |
d'' c'' b' a' b' a' gis' f' gis' f' e' d' gis'
a' gis' f' |
e'2. r8 e'16 e' |
a'8. gis'16 a'8 b' c''8. b'16 c''8 a' |
%10
b'4 b' b' b'8 e' |
b'8. ais'16 b'8 c'' d''8. c''16 d''8 b' |
c''4 c'' c'' c'' |
f''8. e''16 d''8 c'' b'16 c'' b' c'' d''4 |
e''8. d''16 c''8 b' a'16 b' a' b' c''4 |
%15
d''8. c''16 b'8 a' gis' e' c'' b' |
a'2 \bar |.
}
\paper {
}
\midi {
\tempo 4 = 72
}
}
-
\version 2.5.12
\header{
title = Zachrenu
poet = Machzor Yom Kippur
composer = Yechiel Halpern
meter = Andante
}
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\score {
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = acoustic grand
\time 4/4
\key a \minor
\clef treble
e'4 e''8 c'' b' a' b' c'' |
a'4 a' a' a' |
gis'8 a' b' c'' b' gis' a' f' |
e'4 gis'8. gis'16 gis'4 gis'8. e'16 |
%5
a'8 gis' a' f' e' d' f' a' |
d'4 d' d' d'8. d''16 |
d'' c'' b' a' b' a' gis' f' gis' f' e' d' gis'
a' gis' f' |
e'2. r8 e'16 e' |
a'8. gis'16 a'8 b' c''8. b'16 c''8 a' |
%10
b'4 b' b' b'8 e' |
b'8. ais'16 b'8 c'' d''8. c''16 d''8 b' |
c''4 c'' c'' c'' |
f''8. e''16 d''8 c'' b'16 c'' b' c'' d''4 |
e''8. d''16 c''8 b' a'16 b' a' b' c''4 |
%15
d''8. c''16 b'8 a' gis' e' c'' b' |
a'2 \bar |.
}
\layout {
}
\midi {
\tempo 4 = 72
}
}
-
So am I able to generalize from this that layout
replaces paper (you said not and the docs still say
that paper is still in?)
Also is the second set of brackets under the score
block just a shortcut for \note {}?
I need to acheive a template with lyrics in it where
in this template would I put lyrics?
Again it is nice to get a working template for my
personal project but even nicer would be to have some
structural rules I can share with others.
What I mean is that a lilypond file must have these
blocks and optionally can have these blocks.
It could be that nothing really has changed in the
versions and I just never bothered to pin down what is
the basic structure before.
But infact one of the stumbling blocks with lilyxml
was defining what was the lilypond structure. And I
see that it is very different than xml so this
discussion is most enlightening for me.
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Re: lay out
I don't know. I don't write music with lyrics.
Let's look at the
docs... Instrument-specific notation - Vocal music.
Why not look a lyrics which is what I did and I got
the following: And I couldn't figure out where to put
it because I go an x =y situation again. Remember you
know where to look in the docs and a newbie doesn't.
I also remember reading that \lyricsto is needed to
line up lyrics to the text, but I gather the
\addlyrics is good enough...
Sorry I got confused but I did read the docs.
Thanks
Aaron
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Single-staff.html#Single-staff
The next example demonstrates a simple melody with
lyrics. Cut and paste, add notes, then words for the
lyrics. This example turns off automatic beaming,
which is common for vocal parts. If you want to use
automatic beaming, you'll have to change or comment
out the relevant line.
\version 2.4.0
melody = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
a4 b c d
}
text = \lyricmode {
Aaa Bee Cee Dee
}
\score{
\context Voice = one {
\autoBeamOff
\melody
}
\lyricsto one \new Lyrics \text
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}
Setting-simple-songs.html
Hmm, it says that for simple stuff, just add
\addlyrics under the notes.
Let's see if that works. Hey, it does!
insert
\addlyrics{
type lyrics here
}
into your example, right after your notes. Here's
some context:
--
%15
d''8. c''16 b'8 a' gis' e' c'' b' |
a'2 \bar |.
}
\addlyrics{
type lyrics here
}
\layout {
}
-
PLEASE, please read the docs! We've spent hours and
hours writing
and editing the docs. This question required ten
seconds of reading
the first section about vocal music! How could we
make this easier to
find?
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Re: lay out
BTW, for those late to this thread, my intention is not to bash either lilypond or the docs. Rather I am taking upon myself to write the section file structure. I however need to understand it. By that I mean not from a programmers standpoint but the end user. So that once I can setup from scratch any number of valid structures for a lilypond file, it will be a piece of cake to explain this to others. Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lay out
Ok here is where I am confused. There is a structure
for files which makes a file valid.
Then there is a grammar which must also be followed
for the lanuguage of lilypond.
I get the feeling after reading the docs that the
structure of lilypond is loose.
What I mean is that it appear (if I am not wrong) that
there are elements that can appear a number of places
in a document and others that can appear only in
certain places.
I want to be able to generalize and also limit the
structure of a basic lilypond file:
lets say a file with a melody only.
If I ask the question what elements must a lilypond
file have or it won't be valid structuraly will I get
an answer?
If I ask for a valid parent child relationship of
elements will I find such a thing?
This issue is compounded for me by most lilypond
examples which use includes or variables x = y
so that it is often hard to see what the structure is.
I am not complaining rather I am trying to understand.
I realize part of my problem comes from my experience
with xml/html where there are strict rules for nesting
and validity and wellformedbness...
A documentation page titled file structure should lay
down some rules for file structure instead of listing
a few of the top level elements.
I for my part find it confusing when an element is not
nested. Although I realize that with lilypond there is
less worry about missing brackets that way.
I will read some more and experiment some more and see
what I come up with.
Aaron
--- Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Graham, or someone else, we should really try to
make sure that
all commands and reserved words available in
LilyPond are listed
in the Index. \layout is one of those missing. Doing
such an exercise
would also help identifying what information is
missing from the manual
today.)
Part of an answer to your question can be found in
the
sections Changing context default settings and
Defining new contexts in the manual. There's also
some
information in Line length, but there doesn't seem
to be
any introduction to the concept anywhere. For
example, I couldn't
find any information on that you can put a
\layout{...} block
on the top level of the file to make it apply to all
scores in the
file (or at least within the \book) whereas it will
only apply to
the current score if you put the declaration inside
\score{...}.
/Mats
Aaron Mehl wrote:
Hi all,
In a previous email I asked if layout replaced
paper.
I was told to look at outputs, which I did. The
paper
output section details \paper{}
but I see no mention of \layout {}
where in the docs is \layout discussed?
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Re: lay out
--- Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me it's the opposite. I find it much harder to
see
the structure if you only have a long \score{...}
where
I have to scroll several pages from beginning to
end.
Well if I take docbook as an example a book can have
multiple sections no problem. The score block would in
your case be confusing because there aren't so many
structureal elements in lilypond. I created an xml
wrapper for lilypond and proposed a phrase element do
do that. The idea is that a fixed structure permits
the engraver/composer to forget about structure an
concentrate on notating. The tools force the correct
structure and the person concentrates on the grammar
of the language.
One thing that may confuse you is that some of the
structural
elements are optional. For example,
\book{
\score{
{c d e f}
}
}
can be abbreviated into
{c d e f}
yes that is confusing and why make it confusing?
Does this give more power? Does this make things
easier to notate? a tool can be trained to laydown the
structural elements in a file correctly and
automatically. This is done in docbook and it lets the
author concentrate on writing.
Probably, you wouldn't have that much problems with
the basic structure
if you had a background in programming languages
like Pascal or C or
Scheme than with the very strictly specified grammar
of XML.
True but I know a bit of python. I see what you are
saying but I still say a clearly defined and enforced
structure would make the entry into lilypond much and
I mean much easier to the newbie.
To cite Han-Wen, the strict formal definition of the
input grammar
can be found in the source code file parser.yy.
hmn part of the problem is that the base for lilypond
is a fullfleged programing language, which is what
gives it its power but also its confusion.
If you have time look at lilyxml.sourceforge.net
Part of an answer to your question can be found in
the
sections Changing context default settings
but this should be in file structure and in a section
called layout.
and
Defining new contexts in the manual. There's
also
some
information in Line length, but there doesn't
I will read these sections again.
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Re: gtksourceview language-specs file
Of course emacs 'does' hebrew but not bidi and since I knew how to set vim up for this and out of the box emacs didn't let me type hebrew, I didn't bother. I infact am using emacs a lot but I have made a prelininary gtksourceview language-specs file for gedit if anyone is interested. Aaron --- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Mehl writes: after try gvim for hebrew I installed gedit and see it types hebrew out-of-the-box. I thinks that if it had some of the power of emacs/vim for lilypond I would switch to it. I cannot imagine that emacs (perhaps emacs mule) does not do hebrew. Try asking google. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: gtksourceview language-specs file
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Re: deb for latest
Yes I got it working, thanks to Laura Conrads post. There is a .deb for gs and it is called gs-afpl 8.14-3 I need to upgrade another package via apt but after that it went smoothly. Good luck Aaron --- D Josiah Boothby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron, I am inferring from your last few questions to this list that you got 2.5.26 working. If my guess is correct, how did you install the new version of ghostscript? Josiah On Mon, 30 May 2005, Aaron Mehl wrote: Well that was my exact proble finding a ghoscript new enough. I also prefer using apt if at all possible. Maybe I will try converting ghostscript from fedora and then see what happens. Thanks Aaron __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
gtksourceview language file
This may be to big for the list if so I will try to
send it to one of the maintainers.
Here is my language file for gedit.
I named it .xml so I could edit in with nxml but for
it to work it needs to be renamed and placed in the
gtksourceview/language-specs/
I really didn't know what I was doing so I would
appreciate someone going over it and repairing adding
to it as needed.
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!DOCTYPE language SYSTEM language.dtd
language _name=Lilypond version=1.0 _section=Markup mimetypes=text/x-tex
escape-char\\/escape-char
line-comment _name=Comment style=Comment
start-regex%/start-regex
/line-comment
!--block-comment _name = Math style = Comment
start-regex\\$/start-regex
end-regex\\$/end-regex
/block-comment--
syntax-item name=header style=String
start-regex\header {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
syntax-item name=paper style=String
start-regex\paper {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
syntax-item name=midi style=String
start-regex\midi {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
syntax-item name=addquote style=String
start-regex\addquote {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
syntax-item name=score style=String
start-regex\score {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
syntax-item name=layout style=String
start-regex\layout {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
syntax-item name=book style=String
start-regex\book {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
syntax-item name=markup style=String
start-regex\markup {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
syntax-item name=lyrics style=String
start-regex\lyricsmode {/start-regex
end-regex}/end-regex
/syntax-item
keyword-list _name=Include style=Preprocessor case-sensitive=TRUE
match-empty-string-at-beginning=FALSE
match-empty-string-at-end=FALSE
beginning-regex=\\
keywordinput/keyword
keywordinclude/keyword
keywordincludeonly/keyword
keywordusepackage/keyword
/keyword-list
keyword-list _name=Most Used Commands style=Keyword case-sensitive=TRUE
match-empty-string-at-beginning=FALSE
match-empty-string-at-end=FALSE
beginning-regex=\\
keyword
keyword\with/keyword
keyword\whiteTriangleMarkup/keyword
keyword\voiceTwo/keyword
keyword\voiceThree/keyword
keyword\voiceOne/keyword
keyword\voiceFour/keyword
keyword\virgula/keyword
keyword\virga/keyword
keyword\verylongfermata/keyword
keyword\version/keyword
keyword\varcoda/keyword
keyword\upprall/keyword
keyword\upmordent/keyword
keyword\upbow/keyword
keyword\up/keyword
keyword\unset/keyword
keyword\unit/keyword
keyword\unfoldrepeats/keyword
keyword\unaCorda/keyword
keyword\unHideNotes/keyword
keyword\type/keyword
keyword\turn/keyword
keyword\tupletUp/keyword
keyword\tupletNeutral/keyword
keyword\tupletDown/keyword
keyword\trill/keyword
keyword\treCorde/keyword
keyword\transposition/keyword
keyword\transpose/keyword
keyword\tiny/keyword
keyword\times/keyword
keyword\time/keyword
keyword\tildeSymbol/keyword
keyword\tieUp/keyword
keyword\tieSolid/keyword
keyword\tieNeutral/keyword
keyword\tieDown/keyword
keyword\tieDotted/keyword
keyword\thumb/keyword
keyword\tenuto/keyword
keyword\tempo/keyword
keyword\tag/keyword
keyword\sustainUp/keyword
keyword\sustainDown/keyword
keyword\stropha/keyword
keyword\stopped/keyword
keyword\stopTrillSpan/keyword
keyword\stopTextSpan/keyword
keyword\stopGroup/keyword
keyword\stopGraceMusic/keyword
keyword\stopAppoggiaturaMusic/keyword
keyword\stopAcciaccaturaMusic/keyword
keyword\stop/keyword
keyword\stemUp/keyword
keyword\stemNeutral/keyword
keyword\stemDown/keyword
keyword\startTrillSpan/keyword
keyword\startTextSpan/keyword
keyword\startGroup/keyword
keyword\startGraceMusic/keyword
keyword\startAppoggiaturaMusic/keyword
keyword\startAcciaccaturaMusic/keyword
keyword\start/keyword
keyword\staccato/keyword
keyword\staccatissimo/keyword
keyword\spp/keyword
keyword\sp/keyword
keyword\sostenutoUp/keyword
keyword\sostenutoDown/keyword
keyword\smaller/keyword
keyword\small/keyword
keyword\slurUp/keyword
keyword\slurSolid/keyword
keyword\slurNeutral/keyword
keyword\slurDown/keyword
keyword\slurDotted/keyword
keyword\slurDashed/keyword
keyword\skipTypesetting/keyword
keyword\skip/keyword
keyword\simultaneous/keyword
keyword\signumcongruentiae/keyword
keyword\showStaffSwitch/keyword
keyword\shortfermata/keyword
keyword\shiftOnnn/keyword
keyword\shiftOnn/keyword
keyword\shiftOn/keyword
keyword\shiftOff/keyword
keyword\sfz/keyword
keyword\sfp/keyword
keyword\sff/keyword
keyword\sf/keyword
keyword\setTextDim/keyword
keyword\setTextDecresc/keyword
keyword\setTextCresc/keyword
keyword\setHairpinDim/keyword
keyword\setHairpinDecresc/keyword
keyword\setHairpinCresc/keyword
keyword\setEasyHeads/keyword
Re: missing lilypond-tex-metrics.tex
Yes in truth the way programmers document/read
documents is add odds with tech writing. Tech writing
will choose to repeat thingsor give extra example so
as to be as clear and understandable as possible and
programmers want things not to be repeated and as
concise as possible.
I unfortunetly have not upgraded lilypond for so long
that I missed tons of changes.
That said I will start to work on this page and see
what I come up with.
Aaron
--- joe ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With several decades' of programming behind me, one
of the first things
I look for in studying a new language is concise
descriptions of the
syntax of the language and of the structure of
well-formed programs.
It's also nice to get direction from experienced
writers in the language
as to style, since that can make heaps of difference
in conveying your
intent to other humans (or even to yourself, a few
months later.)
Lilypond uses many meta characters that define
structure in various
contexts, but the whole pile of delimiters and their
context constraints
can be quite confusing.
I would applaud anyone who would tackle the
documentation update,
bringing along the experience of a technical writer.
There are actually
three areas of expertise involved here: Writing,
Programming, and Music.
I would hope that the product of the rewrite (or
additional section,
which I think would be preferable) would get
thorough reviewing from the
programmer's and musician's points of view. I would
be willing to review
from the programmer's viewpoint. I leave the other
views to the
respective experts.
Aaron Mehl wrote:
I think we use should be and must fairly
interchangeably.
As a techwriter/user this confuses me. should be
is
a much weaker expression, like it doesn't have to
but
if you want.. must says that it is a requirement to
have on of these.
then it says:
A .ly file contains any number of toplevel
expressions, where a toplevel expression is one
of
the
following
well this is vague. because if some top level
elements
are left out the file won't parse while if others
are
left out it will.
Well... but only _requirement_ is that there's
some
music in
You mean to say that if I write a lilypond file
with a header and a'4 it will parse? I am trying
here
to clarify what the intent of the documentation is
here, not be picky per se.
A user doesn't want to know what he may or should
do,
but what he needs to get this up and running. What
I
mean is beating around the bush doesn't help. If
this
is a page detailing lilypond file structure it
should
do that specifically not with shoulds and mights.
If
there are different possiblilies they need to be
laid
out.
I in fact recall that for structure there was never
a
one stop shop (on page) that in a straight forward
manner detailed what is the structure (in detail)
of a
lilypond file. I infact thought for years that the
[that = this] format of almost all lilypond files I
saw on the mailing list and the site was a
requirement
of Lilypond, as opposed to a feature.
the file. And even then I'm not certain that
lilypond will give
a parse error.
If a file won't parse, then something else is
wrong.
the example given doesn't use a \score {} block,
so I
must assume that lilypond no longer requires a
score
block?
Correct.
I see a layout block has this replaced the
\paper{} ?
Kind-of. See the Paper output section in
Output
formats.
I am in the mean time still trying to make a
layout
with no includes and lyrics.
In addition to reading the manual, you might want
to
look at
some examples from Mutopia or LSR.
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lay out
Hi all,
In a previous email I asked if layout replaced paper.
I was told to look at outputs, which I did. The paper
output section details \paper{}
but I see no mention of \layout {}
where in the docs is \layout discussed?
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Hebrew editing lilypond
Hi all, I am most impressed I can now output hebrew with lilypond ! But I thought it would be wise to my editor results. I tried emacs but couldn't figure out how to type hebrew, I know it doesn't support bidi (bidirection) so I didn't try so hard. jedit: I didn't have a clue how to make it type hebrew, any jedit gurus out there? gvim: After googling for the thread I started on linux-il I was able to type hebrew, the setup isn't painless but it sure works. here is what I did: in gvim type this: :set rightleft After you do this, the screen should flip right-left, but still input English in insert mode. Then do :set hkmap and insert mode should input Hebrew (you'll see it as Hebrew if you use a iso8859-8 font). Note 'insert mode'. go to the edit window and choose a hebrew font. I am on linux so I install the culmus fonts. I choose miriam and in kde switched to the il keyboard and viola hebrew. If anyone has other editors that work with hebrew please let me know. Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: missing lilypond-tex-metrics.tex
Well,
I read the docs and I still am coming short:
The file structure page uses the phrase:
music should be inside other expressions
I gather it means music must be inside other
expressions.
then it says:
A .ly file contains any number of toplevel
expressions, where a toplevel expression is one of the
following
well this is vague. because if some top level elements
are left out the file won't parse while if others are
left out it will.
the example given doesn't use a \score {} block, so I
must assume that lilypond no longer requires a score
block?
I see a layout block has this replaced the \paper{} ?
the example only has layout, but the beginning of the
tutorial has a snippit that does use \paper{}.
I am in the mean time still trying to make a layout
with no includes and lyrics.
Is this the right structure for lyrics?
does it go inside the parentheis of the notes or
outside?
so far in either case I get junking lyrics event from
lilypond...
\lyricmode {
the cow said moo moo
}
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Re: missing lilypond-tex-metrics.tex
Hi
When I was first learning lilypond I found most things
confusing. After all I was coming from Finale.
I also am a html/sgml docbook person and found the
structure of lilypond confusing. But that was then,
now it appears things have changed for the good,
better docs, more logical structure, etc.
I need the simplest layout without includes, mutopia
files are complicated. I can write a lilypond score
thankyou no problem. I am just trying to create a
template for my songbook without includes.
That said, having used Lilypond for years I am most
excited with the 2.5/2/6 versions, wow what a great
job the Lilypond developers have done.
Aaron
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When I was first learning to read/write lilypond, I
found this site
http://ibiblio.org/mutopia/ to be very useful,
since it has many
complete examples of several types of score.
Joe
Aaron Mehl wrote:
Well,
I read the docs and I still am coming short:
The file structure page uses the phrase:
music should be inside other expressions
I gather it means music must be inside other
expressions.
then it says:
A .ly file contains any number of toplevel
expressions, where a toplevel expression is one of
the
following
well this is vague. because if some top level
elements
are left out the file won't parse while if others
are
left out it will.
the example given doesn't use a \score {} block, so
I
must assume that lilypond no longer requires a
score
block?
I see a layout block has this replaced the \paper{}
?
the example only has layout, but the beginning of
the
tutorial has a snippit that does use \paper{}.
I am in the mean time still trying to make a layout
with no includes and lyrics.
Is this the right structure for lyrics?
does it go inside the parentheis of the notes or
outside?
so far in either case I get junking lyrics event
from
lilypond...
\lyricmode {
the cow said moo moo
}
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Aaron
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Re: missing lilypond-tex-metrics.tex =-part2
uhg I am using yahoo and hitting enter sent the email
in the midths of typing
If a file won't parse, then something else is wrong.
This is true but my only way of determining this is
by absolutly knowing what is an essential top level
block and what is not and their heirarchy. That is the
beauty of xml clear and enforcable rules. Lilypond's
challange for me has always been its freedom.
That is why for years I never build my own files but
used preexisting templates. With the old version of
lilypoond I more or less understand the structure, but
here the rules have changed :)
I see a layout block has this replaced the
\paper{} ?
Kind-of. See the Paper output section in Output
formats.
I am in the mean time still trying to make a
layout
with no includes and lyrics.
In addition to reading the manual, you might want to
look at
some examples from Mutopia or LSR.
- Graham
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Re: missing lilypond-tex-metrics.tex=part3
same again yahoo sent it without my wanting to ..
I see a layout block has this replaced the
\paper{} ?
Kind-of. See the Paper output section in Output
formats.
I will.
with no includes and lyrics.
In addition to reading the manual, you might want to
look at
some examples from Mutopia
does Mutopia use lilypond 2.5/2.6?
even with lilypond stable I found much on mutopia out
of date, but I haven't visited it recently.
or LSR.
I haven't looked a the snippet site. Maybe it has a
version with no includes. I will give it a try.
Thanks
Aaron
- Graham
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gtksourceview language-specs file
Hi all after try gvim for hebrew I installed gedit and see it types hebrew out-of-the-box. I thinks that if it had some of the power of emacs/vim for lilypond I would switch to it. I googled and found that gedit uses a gtksourceview language-specs file for its support of diffferent programing languages. Before I reinvent the wheel has someone created a gtksourceview language-specs file for lilypond? Thanks Aaron __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: missing lilypond-tex-metrics.tex
I really don't think it makes a big difference. If you want to submit a patch that changes all should bes to musts, I won't complain. then it says: A .ly file contains any number of toplevel That's what the tutorial is for. I still don't understand what the difficulty is. I will explain. For programmers documentation shouldn't repeat the same idea in more than one place because it wastes time. But for end user documentation, things need to be clear and it is common practice to repeat or xref important information. Again when lilypond was small it was easier to find the information in the documents but now I may search google and come directly to the file structure page and not know that this is covered also elsewhere. Remember a lot of lilypond users are newbies.. ... so we should just change all shoulds to must on that doc page? I really don't think that makes a big difference. I only see two shoulds, anyway. No I think once I understand the structure I will submit a patch for this page. I'm not adverse to replacing that section of the docs. A few people have asked for more formal definitions of lilypond input syntax. If you wrote such a page, it could help some new users. Again I am still not 100% clear on how this all works. but I will gladly rewrite this page because I see it will be helpful. first I will try to make a map of what I think the file base file structure is and I will then see if files I build from it parse. Then I will refine it until it work. so far myself am not clear enough on this to write it for others. But since I need this I am sure I will get it to work. Thanks for your help Aaron - Graham __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: deb for latest
Well that was my exact proble finding a ghoscript new enough. I also prefer using apt if at all possible. Maybe I will try converting ghostscript from fedora and then see what happens. Thanks Aaron __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: language
Thanks I found it. Try looking at the docs, then. Advanced notation - Text - text encoding. But when I run it I get a font metrics error. I installed lilypond in ~/bin and it seems to me that tko start lilypond I need to do something special so that it reads the needed files. but I can't seem to find how to do this, it is hinted at in the INSTALL doc. but I am not sure what to do. Thanks Aaron __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
what does this mean?
Hi all, In the Install.txt file the following is written: If you are not root, you should choose a `--prefix' argument that points into your home directory, e.g.: ./configure --prefix=$HOME/usr In this case, you have to insert the contents of `buildscripts/out/lilypond-login' or `buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile' into your start up scripts by hand. what startup scripts does it mean? when is this done? before compile/build or when running lilypond? Thanks Aaron __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
missing lilypond-tex-metrics.tex
Hi all, I am working on getting hebrew to work. When I ran my file through I get the following error. Is this because I installed lilypond to --home? how do I fix this? Thanks theone:~/bin# latex testlyrics.texstr This is e-TeX, Version 3.14159-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) entering extended mode (./testlyrics.texstr LaTeX2e 2001/06/01 Babel v3.7h and hyphenation patterns for american, nohyphenation, catalan, ir ish, icelandic, swedish, loaded. ! LaTeX Error: File `lilypond-tex-metrics.tex' not found. Type X to quit or RETURN to proceed, or enter new name. (Default extension: tex) Enter file name: __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: setup help
your right I sometimes hit reply and evolution sends to the person not the group. AA I see that I need a patch but vere is da patch?? and how do I install it??? On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 04:26, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Please keep the discussion on the mailing list, for the benefit of yourself since you get access to the collected expertise on the list and for the benefit of others who experience similar problems. The problem you have seen with PFA fonts is known, see http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2002-12/msg00189.html Regarding Hebrew lyrics, I have seen your previous emails and planned to do a small investigation and send a useful answer. Unfortunately, it seems I never get the time to do it. The problem is that the answer depends very much on how the Hewbrew support in LaTeX is implemented. If you're lucky, it's very simple to add the support. Do you know of any good introduction to Hebrew typesetting with LaTeX? /Mats Well I didn't delve too deeply with hebrew latex I played with plain Tex and it was fairly strait forward. In fact the person who figured it out is doug Asherman. So I will write him. I think Thanks. Aaron ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
font help
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 09:24, Mats Bengtsson wrote: ??? Are you saying that you still don't get the desired fonts? No no music fonts Try the following: Run the command: tex testfont Fill in: Name of font to test = feta20 * \table * \bye Look at the file using xdvi: xdvi testfont Yes I see a table of musical symbols you should see a table with different musical symbols. Run dvips -Ppdf -G0 -ulilypond.map testfont Look at the Postscript file using gv (ghostview) gv testfont.ps (or ghostview testfont.ps) you should see the same result. No I don't Try to convert the file to PDF: ps2pdf testfont.ps Also no music Look at the PDF file: acroread testfont.pdf Again the document should look the same. right no musical symbols I tried to send with the attachments but the list doen't like them if you need to see them I will send them off list. Aaron These steps exactly mimic what ly2dvi does internally. If the above example works, ly2dvi should also work. Otherwise, it could help us sort out what kind of problems you have. Ok I hope this helps the files are attached Aaron /Mats ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
