Need help with usage of breve
Hi all. I am building a score with a lot of tied whole notes, and I'd like
to make it more concise by using breves. However, I am clearly not
understanding how to use them properly.
Example using ties:
\version "2.22.2"
\score {
\new Staff \relative {
\clef treble
\new Voice \relative {
\time 6/1 \partial 1 f'1 ~
f1 fis1 ~ fis1 a1 ~ a1 b1
}
}
}
Which produces the expected result:
[image: lilypad-test-1.png]
Here's a version using breves according to my understanding based on the
docs (
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#durations
):
\version "2.22.2"
\score {
\new Staff \relative {
\clef treble
\new Voice \relative {
\time 6/1 \partial 1 f'1 ~
f1 fis1\breve a1\breve b1
}
}
}
Which produces an unexpected result (repeated notes, barline in wrong
place):
[image: lilypad-test-2.png]
Please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
Thanks,
Dave
Re: trying to define microtonal note names and accidentals
I'm hoping to dip into these waters eventually. I tried using the HEJI fonts with kind assistance from Konstantin Heuer (who has been working on updating microlily), but without much luck so far. I have developed one microtonal score so far (mostly I write electronic music for which scores are not needed), and since it's a quite minimal piece with only seven pitches, I opted to annotate the score with offsets in cents on the first appearance of each pitch, and added a performance note section to document the associations between the pitch offsets and the actual ratios I intended. I would like to use microtonal accidentals at some point, but the fact that there are competing styles (Helmholtz-Ellis, Johnston, Sagittal, ...) is concerning since it's hard enough to find performers who will even recognize the various notations and interpret them correctly. So using cents offsets, in this particular case, seemed like a more "objective" way to indicate the pitches. But of course this is a matter of taste and preference. - Dave On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 9:23 AM Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 21 Oct 2020, at 12:43, Stefan Thomas > wrote: > > > > I'm trying to define microtonal note names and accidentals with the > HE-font. > > I made such for Helmholtz–Ellis notation in E53 and E72, using the Bravura > font. > > > >
Re: Scheme expressions on lilypond command line (-e)
This is excellent, Aaron, thanks very much. Learning by example suits me well, and I'm enjoying getting into Scheme. I use Python + Java all day long on the job (in fact used Python to generate all of the music parts of the score I'm working on -- it's originally a Csound piece that was written using Python in the first place), and it's good for the brain to get stretched into a different paradigm. - Dave On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:26 PM Aaron Hill wrote: > On 2020-10-19 7:51 pm, Dave Seidel wrote: > > More succinct: > > > > #(begin > > (use-modules (guile-user)) > > > > (if (not(defined? 'part)) > > (define partName "") > > (define partName (string-append "S" (number->string part))) > > ) > > ) > > To be even more succinct, observe the following: > > > Avoid negated predicates by swapping the consequent and alternate. > > (if (defined? 'part) > (define partName (string-append "S" (number->string part))) > (define partName "")) > > > > Extract common logic from consequent and alternate. > > (define partName >(if (defined? 'part) >(string-append "S" (number->string part)) >"")) > > > > Use formatted output instead of manual string conversion/concatenation. > > (define partName >(if (defined? 'part) >(format #f "S~d" part) >"")) > > > > -- Aaron Hill > >
Re: Scheme expressions on lilypond command line (-e)
More succinct: #(begin (use-modules (guile-user)) (if (not(defined? 'part)) (define partName "") (define partName (string-append "S" (number->string part))) ) ) though the warning still prints, but that's not a big deal for me. On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:23 PM Dave Seidel wrote: > Interesting. I don't understand the '@' syntax -- been trying to look it > up but so far to no avail. > > Here's what I ended up with: > > #(begin > (use-modules (guile-user)) > > (if (not(symbol? 'part)) > (define part 0) > ) > > (if (= part 0) > (define partName "") > (define partName (string-append "S" (number->string part))) > ) > ) > > which gives me a default value for "part" if not defined on the command > line. The "partName" variable is used later: if non-null, the script will > print parts instead of a full score, thus > > lilypond -o Hexany_Permutations hexany_permutations.ly > lilypond -e "(define part 1)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S1 > hexany_permutations.ly > lilypond -e "(define part 2)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S2 > hexany_permutations.ly > lilypond -e "(define part 3)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S3 > hexany_permutations.ly > lilypond -e "(define part 4)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S4 > hexany_permutations.ly > lilypond -e "(define part 5)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S5 > hexany_permutations.ly > lilypond -e "(define part 6)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S6 > hexany_permutations.ly > > which yields a PDF for the full score and a separate PDF for each part > (where the instruments are designated as S1 through S6). I guess I could > probably do it all in a single invocation, but I haven't gotten that far > yet -- only been using Lilypond for about a week now. > > - Dave > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 6:22 PM Aaron Hill > wrote: > >> On 2020-10-19 2:45 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: >> > You can ignore the warning that shows up >> > (https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/3613). >> >> You can avoid the warning by using the @ syntax: >> >> eval-scope.ly >> \version "2.20.0" >> #(format #t "\nvalue = ~s" >>(false-if-exception (@ (guile-user) value))) >> >> >> >> > lilypond eval-scope.ly >> GNU LilyPond 2.20.0 >> Processing `eval-scope.ly' >> Parsing... >> value = #f >> Success: compilation successfully completed >> >> > lilypond -e "(define-public value 123)" eval-scope.ly >> GNU LilyPond 2.20.0 >> Processing `eval-scope.ly' >> Parsing... >> value = 123 >> Success: compilation successfully completed >> >> >> >> -- Aaron Hill >> >>
Re: Scheme expressions on lilypond command line (-e)
Interesting. I don't understand the '@' syntax -- been trying to look it up but so far to no avail. Here's what I ended up with: #(begin (use-modules (guile-user)) (if (not(symbol? 'part)) (define part 0) ) (if (= part 0) (define partName "") (define partName (string-append "S" (number->string part))) ) ) which gives me a default value for "part" if not defined on the command line. The "partName" variable is used later: if non-null, the script will print parts instead of a full score, thus lilypond -o Hexany_Permutations hexany_permutations.ly lilypond -e "(define part 1)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S1 hexany_permutations.ly lilypond -e "(define part 2)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S2 hexany_permutations.ly lilypond -e "(define part 3)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S3 hexany_permutations.ly lilypond -e "(define part 4)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S4 hexany_permutations.ly lilypond -e "(define part 5)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S5 hexany_permutations.ly lilypond -e "(define part 6)" -o Hexany_Permutations_S6 hexany_permutations.ly which yields a PDF for the full score and a separate PDF for each part (where the instruments are designated as S1 through S6). I guess I could probably do it all in a single invocation, but I haven't gotten that far yet -- only been using Lilypond for about a week now. - Dave On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 6:22 PM Aaron Hill wrote: > On 2020-10-19 2:45 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > You can ignore the warning that shows up > > (https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/3613). > > You can avoid the warning by using the @ syntax: > > eval-scope.ly > \version "2.20.0" > #(format #t "\nvalue = ~s" >(false-if-exception (@ (guile-user) value))) > > > > > lilypond eval-scope.ly > GNU LilyPond 2.20.0 > Processing `eval-scope.ly' > Parsing... > value = #f > Success: compilation successfully completed > > > lilypond -e "(define-public value 123)" eval-scope.ly > GNU LilyPond 2.20.0 > Processing `eval-scope.ly' > Parsing... > value = 123 > Success: compilation successfully completed > > > > -- Aaron Hill > >
Re: Scheme expressions on lilypond command line (-e)
Thanks Jean! I need to read more carefully! On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:45 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le 19/10/2020 à 23:14, Dave Seidel a écrit : > > Hi all, > > I am trying to define a variable on the command line that I can use within > the .ly file. I've tried both > > -e "(define-public part 1)" > > and > > -e "(define part 1)" > > > In the .ly file, I have a Scheme expression > > #(if (= part 0) > (define partName "") > (define partName (string-append "S" part)) > ) > > > In either case, I get the error > > GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here > # > (if (= part 0) > Unbound variable: part > > > I guess I'm either defining the variable incorrectly, or dereferencing it > incorrectly within the script. Can someone help? > > Thanks, > > Dave > > > Hi, > > Have a look at > > > lilypond.org/doc/v2.21/Documentation/usage/command_002dline-usage#basic-command-line-options-for-lilypond.html > > You need > > #(use-modules (guile-user)) > > at the top of your LilyPond source. > > You can ignore the warning that shows up > (https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/3613). > > Best, > Jean > >
Scheme expressions on lilypond command line (-e)
Hi all, I am trying to define a variable on the command line that I can use within the .ly file. I've tried both -e "(define-public part 1)" and -e "(define part 1)" In the .ly file, I have a Scheme expression #(if (= part 0) (define partName "") (define partName (string-append "S" part)) ) In either case, I get the error GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here # (if (= part 0) Unbound variable: part I guess I'm either defining the variable incorrectly, or dereferencing it incorrectly within the script. Can someone help? Thanks, Dave
Re: newbie: help with Scheme functions
Thanks, Aaron. On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 4:46 PM Aaron Hill wrote: > On 2020-10-18 1:38 pm, Dave Seidel wrote: > > Very cool, thanks! I'm curious -- could aBook and aBookPart have been > > written as a lambda, or is it cleaner to use a void function? > > (Re-adding the mailing list on the thread for visibility.) > > To get the benefits of LilyPond's Scheme functions, you would need to > use one of the define-*-function family. Since it is our intention here > not to return any value, we use the void function. > > If you do not need any parameters, you can certainly invoke procedures > like print-book-with-defaults or ly:book-add-bookpart! without wrapping > them in a function. Though, without parameterization, I would wonder > why you could not just use \book or \bookpart directly. > > > -- Aaron Hill >
Re: newbie: help with Scheme functions
Having articulated the question, I figured out that apparently one can't
return a \bookpart from a Scheme function, but it's ok to return a \score,
so I am restructuring my code.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 10:28 AM Dave Seidel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a multi-section piece, with a master .ly file that uses \include
> for each of the sections of the piece. Each included file more or less
> follows the pattern of the string quartet template that ships with
> Lilypond: a series of macros, one per voice, followed by a \bookpart
> section that builds a StaffGroup, with one Staff per voice. This bookpart
> block is nearly identical in all the included files, with the exception of
> a title string used for "piece" property in in a \header section and also
> also as a \tocItem.
>
> This all works quite well, and I have a nice score with everything. Now
> I'd like to be able to produce parts, and my thought is that rather than
> have a literal bookpart block in each file, I should be able to convert the
> block into a function that takes the title string parameter. If I can get
> this to work, then hopefully I can make the function smart enough to either
> render all voices (for the full score) or just a single voice (for parts).
>
> My problem is that I have defined the function, but I can't invoke it.
> Here's the function:
>
> scoreSection =
> #(define-scheme-function
> (parser location title)
> (string?)
> #{
> \bookpart {
> \header {
> piece = #title
> }
> \tocItem \markup #title
> \markup {
> \italic "Notes other than C have different pitches than notated,
> as indicated by a number"
> }
> \markup {
> \italic "in parentheses giving an offset in cents relative to
> the notated pitch, shown at"
> }
> \markup {
> \italic "the first appearance of each note that requires
> alteration."
> }
> \score {
> \new StaffGroup \with { midiInstrument = "cello" } <<
> \new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 1" }
> << \global \stringOne >>
> \new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 2" }
> << \global \stringTwo >>
> \new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 3" }
> << \global \stringThree >>
> \new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 4" }
> << \global \stringFour >>
> \new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 5" }
> << \global \stringFive >>
> \new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 6" }
> << \global \stringSix >>
> \new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 7" }
> << \global \stringSeven >>
> >>
> \layout { }
> \midi { }
> }
> }
> #})
>
> And I am trying to invoke it using
>
> \scoreSection #"Part 1"
>
>
> but I keep getting the error messages like this:
>
> Parsing...
> hexany_permutations.ly:127:1: error: bad expression type
>
> \scoreSection #"Part 1"
>
>
> What am I doing wrong? I'm a Lilypond and Scheme newbie (but a programmer
> by trade).
>
> - Dave
>
newbie: help with Scheme functions
Hi,
I have a multi-section piece, with a master .ly file that uses \include for
each of the sections of the piece. Each included file more or less follows
the pattern of the string quartet template that ships with Lilypond: a
series of macros, one per voice, followed by a \bookpart section that
builds a StaffGroup, with one Staff per voice. This bookpart block is
nearly identical in all the included files, with the exception of a title
string used for "piece" property in in a \header section and also also as a
\tocItem.
This all works quite well, and I have a nice score with everything. Now I'd
like to be able to produce parts, and my thought is that rather than have a
literal bookpart block in each file, I should be able to convert the block
into a function that takes the title string parameter. If I can get this to
work, then hopefully I can make the function smart enough to either render
all voices (for the full score) or just a single voice (for parts).
My problem is that I have defined the function, but I can't invoke it.
Here's the function:
scoreSection =
#(define-scheme-function
(parser location title)
(string?)
#{
\bookpart {
\header {
piece = #title
}
\tocItem \markup #title
\markup {
\italic "Notes other than C have different pitches than notated,
as indicated by a number"
}
\markup {
\italic "in parentheses giving an offset in cents relative to the
notated pitch, shown at"
}
\markup {
\italic "the first appearance of each note that requires
alteration."
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup \with { midiInstrument = "cello" } <<
\new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 1" }
<< \global \stringOne >>
\new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 2" }
<< \global \stringTwo >>
\new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 3" }
<< \global \stringThree >>
\new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 4" }
<< \global \stringFour >>
\new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 5" }
<< \global \stringFive >>
\new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 6" }
<< \global \stringSix >>
\new Staff \with { instrumentName = "String 7" }
<< \global \stringSeven >>
>>
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
}
#})
And I am trying to invoke it using
\scoreSection #"Part 1"
but I keep getting the error messages like this:
Parsing...
hexany_permutations.ly:127:1: error: bad expression type
\scoreSection #"Part 1"
What am I doing wrong? I'm a Lilypond and Scheme newbie (but a programmer
by trade).
- Dave
Help with HEJI fonts
Hello,
I am trying to HEJI microtonal notation with Lilypond, using the OTF fonts
downloaded from plainsound.org, and the microlily package (originally by
Graham Breed and now being worked on by Konstantin Steuer). The specific
problem I'm having is that Lilypond does not seem to load or use these
fonts.
Here's the code I'm currently using to test this, not getting into the
microlily code at all
\markup { saldkfjh }
\paper{ myStaffSize = #20 #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree "HEJI"
"HEJI" "HEJI" (/ myStaffSize 20))) }
which should print some glyphs from the font, but only prints the normal
letters.
I have tried this on both Windows 10 and Linux, with the fonts installed as
system fonts on both systems. I have also tried installing TTF versions of
the fonts, but with the same negative results.
Is there something else I need to do with these fonts so that
Lilypond will load them, such as copying them to some specific disk
location?
Proviso: I am a Lilypond and Scheme newbie (though no newbie to either
music or programming).
Thanks,
Dave
