Re: emails innummerable

2018-11-05 Thread David Linn
The digest sender looks not at the number of messages in the queue but
rather at the combined size of all of the messages in the queue.  To be
precise, the Mailman v2.1 List Admin manual says:


Digest delivery is a way to bundle many articles together into one package,
which can be delivered once per day (if there were any posted articles), or
whenever the package is bigger than a specified limit. Some users may
prefer this style of delivery for higher traffic lists since they will
receive fewer messages.


I can raise "the specified limit" and potentially reduce the number of
digests per day, but it will probably increase the number of large messages
*everyone* on the digest list receives.


On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 1:54 AM David Sumbler  wrote:

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Hamilton 
> To: Jean-Julien Fleck ,
> lilypond-user@gnu.org, d...@linns.org
> Subject: Re: emails innummerable
> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2018 17:57:57 -0700
> > Merci
> > but I just checked (and changed my name and address) and it was set
> > (as
> > far as I could understand ) to 'digest' or group
> > so that is not the answer or at least not to the current problem.
> > Jay
>
> I think that the problem Jay/Sam is referring to is that the list is so
> busy (surely a good thing) that several digests per day are sent out.
>
> On Saturday 3rd November, for instance, I received 14 digests.  These
> contained a total of 52 separate messages.  Sending one daily digest
> would obviously mean that all 52 messages appeared in one massive
> email.
>
> There does seem to be something odd about the way the issue of a digest
> is triggered though: one of Saturday's digests contained 8 messages,
> another contained just 1.  This variability happens all the time, and
> it does not appear to be related to the length of the individual
> messages.
>
> Is is possible to tweak the list-issuing software either to standardize
> the timing of new digests (e.g. once per day, or perhaps once every 6
> hours); or alternatively to issue a digest once the number of emails or
> their total length has reached a certain level?
>
> I have got used to the apparently random frequency and length of the
> digests, but I can quite see that it might annoy some people.
>
> David
>
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Re: emails innummerable

2018-11-04 Thread David Linn
I actually sent you a message to which I've not seen a reply.

By the time I saw your (first) message and could check your list settings,
your address was set for "digest".  Have you changed that recently (i.e.
since October 29) when you sent your first message (with a different name
"Jay" and email address)?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM Sam Frybyte  wrote:

> Hi- this is not quite off-topic.
> I (and assume we) at one time were able to get a once a day list off
> all the questions/answers, in one email.
> That is clearly not the case any longer.
> But.
> The current method means that my mailbox receives 10+ emails a day
> often about the same issue between the same two people.
>
> It seems inefficient and redundant and I wish the manager could
> provide the daily again.
>
> I've tried writing to that person (who is it now?) and gotten no response.
>
> Does anyone else feel this way?  If not then it's moot but I am
> beginning to regret being on the list.
>
> --
> Jay Hamilton
> Sound & Silence
> www.soundand.com
>  206-328-7694
>
>
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Re: Trolling and unacceptable behaviour on the list

2016-11-18 Thread David Linn
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:15 AM Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

> As a list moderator, I would say that by now you should step in and
> intervene in this. Blacklisting the person in question does not help me
> personally as I still get all the replies and upsetting noise they are
> creating. I am aware that your policy appears to be one of complete
> non-intervention. But it strikes me as unfair that I have to unsubscribe to
> avoid the postings of this deliberately disruptive person. I am certain
> others feel this way.
>

I do not see myself as a list moderator - that task is now handled by
others; I just try to make sure things keep working and to help people
having trouble with subscribing, unsubscribing, and posting.

If directed to ban someone by LP (or GNU) project leadership, I can do so
but I don't think I should do so unilaterally.  And, as someone else
already mentioned, with open subscription, banning (blacklisting) is not
very effective against a human being; a banned but motivated poster will
simply start posting from some other address.
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Re: attachments and digest mode

2016-05-09 Thread David Linn
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 8:22 PM David Wright 
wrote:

>
> Some are available through links; just not the ones given in the digest.
> I don't know the particulars of your example because I had already
> deleted it (not interested in chord mode) by the time I read your posting.


...

>
> I pointed this out to the powers that be at gnu.org a while back,
> but that might have been sent too high up the chain of admin. So
> I'll try copying David Linn into this email instead.
>

I have also pointed this out to the powers that be at gnu.org, specifically
the GNU Mailman management team for list.gnu.org, and have never gotten a
response.
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Fwd: Replying to posts

2016-04-29 Thread David Linn
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:14 PM Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

> Hi Werner,
>
> On 29 April 2016 at 14:05, Werner LEMBERG  wrote:
> >
> >> As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner,
> >> and there are no published rules.
> >
> > Of course there is a list owner.
>
> Who, may one ask? Why are they taking no interest in this extensive
> discussion?
>

Perhaps because the "extensive discussion"  has occurred while my
non-working hours are spent preparing to move from one location to another.

For the record:

1) I am not David Kastrup, I am David Linn.  (I do not live in Europe, I
live in the southeastern part of the United States of America).

2) I am a dinosaur and find use of HTML, top posting, and gratuitous
assumptions about available bandwidth annoying.  I have strong views about
appropriate use of mailing lists but choose not to impose them on you.

3) My personal choice of MUA is Heirloom mailx (formerly nail), an enhanced
version of the Berkeley mail(1) program.  That said, the list manangement
mail for the Lilypond lists goes to Gmail, precisely so that I am able to
deal with the ... variety of formats people send to the Lilypond lists.

4) As David K. suggested, the simple way to get to the administrator of a
GNU mailing list is to send mail to -owner.  Further, if you
visit http://lists.gnu.org/ and follow the listinfo link, or just look at
the footer of every message from both the regular list and the digest list,
you'll find

https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

which lists my address at the bottom of the page.

5) Personal attacks against a list administrator (such as the ones launched
against me for the work I done on this list and its cousins and their
predecessors) make that administrator unlikely to do more than the absolute
minimum to maintain a list.
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Re: Problem posting message

2010-11-11 Thread David Linn
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Ralph Palmer  wrote:
> ... I wanted to send, as attachments, the .ly file
> (1.1 Kb), the example I was trying to duplicate (188 Kb .jpg), and an image
> of my LilyPond attempt (61.9 Kb .jpg). Everything I've tried bounces. Is
> there a file size limit? Or is there an acceptable file type? I can include
> the .ly file in body of the message as text, and I could save the graphics
> files as .jpg, .png,  or .gif.

For the -users list, there is a limit of 128KB on the body of a
message.  This is the total
body size, including any attachments and any size increases due to
encoding of binary as ASCII.

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