Text Spanner misbehaving?
Howdy! I'm working on a piece that calls for a custom text span (v2.12.1). After setting up the following (I'm copying from the online manual): \override TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = #slargandosi poco a poco \override TextSpanner #'(bound-details right text) = # and applying the \startTextSpan and \stopTextSpan where I want them in the score, I get what you see in the attached graph. Is the left text not manageable? Regards, Diosnelattachment: noText.jpg___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Help with (complex?) ties
You can't tie notes on different layers/voices. A workaround would be to add some invisible notes to the voice where you want the ties, and probably to align them with the visible ones so the ties end at the right place. Regards, - Original Message - From: Trevor Fancher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 17:20 Subject: Re: Help with (complex?) ties Trevor Fancher trevor at fancher.org writes: I am trying to get http://fancher.org/want.png but as far as I can get is http://fancher.org/want.png . That second want.png link is supposed to be http://fancher.org/got.png . Sorry for any confusion. Trevor Fancher ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tuplets
Doesn't anybody use the term irregular values/figures? That's the general term I learned waay back (actually, it was figuras irregulares). Regards, - Original Message - From: Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:23 Subject: Re: tuplets 2007/9/26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Charlotte, In what context do we actually need to use this generic term? Surely we can avoid it? I'd be happy to try to re-draft the relevant paragraph(s) if necessary. Can you propose anything else for http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Tuplets ? (I'd be interested in seeing what you can propose, since the French translation is currently relying on hideous neologisms ;) Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: connecting a arpeggio
The only solution I found was to use an invisible chord to attach the
arpeggio symbol to. In previous versions, it was possible to hide/unhide
some notes of a chord, and there was no need to use a third voice, but that
does not work anymore.
Regards,
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From: Peter Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 17:29
Subject: connecting a arpeggio
Dear readers,
How do i connect a arpeggio between 2 voices?
case:
staffClassicalGuitar = \new Staff {
\set Staff.connectArpeggios = ##t
\relative c' {
{ e' b gis!\arpeggio }
\\ { e,\arpeggio }
}
}
~ End
This does not work.
Kind Regards,
Peter
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Re: Tweaking arpeggios
You may have to work out your own tweak for this one... Check http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/input/regression/lily-db2f26903c.ly for an example of a bracket and see if you can combine it with arrow heads. Regards, - Original Message - From: Daniel Tonda Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 22:30 Subject: Re: Tweaking arpeggios ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tweaking arpeggios
Daniel, Off the top of my head, I can't remember the syntax, but look for something like \DownArpeggio or \ArpeggioDown. The line would still be squiggly, though, and I think that's fine as far as I know, because a straight line usually means plaqué (i.e. non arpeggiated), so the arrow would be meaningless in this context. Regards, Diosnel - Original Message - From: Daniel Tonda Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 21:23 Subject: Tweaking arpeggios Hello: Is there a way to set the squiggly line of the arpeggio to a straight line with the arrow included? This is because in guitar music, sometimes the direction of the strum is indicated with an arrow pointing upwards in case the strum s from the low strings to the high strings, and viceversa. Daniel Tonda C. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Merging scores in one pdf
I'm not aware of your settings, but something like this should work: \include staff1.ly \include staff2.ly ... ... ... \include staffn.ly Each stafx.ly file should have its own \score block. Regards, - Original Message - From: sdfhsdfhsdfhs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 14:44 Subject: Merging scores in one pdf is it possible to merge several choirstaff in one pdf, each with its title, subtitle, instrument name, ... ? book seems to split one .ly into several .pdf; but i have to do the opposite: several .ly (or one big .ly) into one .pdf. I tried to merge them with a pdf file merging tool, but it has two major inconvenients: 1) the resulting pdf is much bigger than the sum of all initial pdfs. 2) if i merge 40 scores that are each 1.25 page long, the resulting pdf will contain 40x2=80 pages instead of 40x1.25=50. I did not find anything in the forum about it. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Merging-scores-in-one-pdf-tf4049819.html#a11503199 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanish-speaking users
Hi, Francisco. This is Diosnel Herrnsdorf, from Paraguay. I don't know if there are other people using Lily here, but you can at least count one :) Regards, - Original Message - From: Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 15:33 Subject: Spanish-speaking users I would like to contact all spanish-speaking users in this list, just to have an estimation of how many of us are there, and possibly foundate a lilypond-user-spanish list. Here at the Conservatorio Superior de Musica de Badajoz we are teaching LilyPond to many students as an optative subject, both in mid-level studies (pre-college) and higher education. Thank you, -- Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Problems with LilyPond 2.11.15
Hi there!
I'm sorry if this is not the exact place to post this kind of issues... if
that is the case, please redirect me to the right place.
Anyway, here it goes. Up to this morning, I've been using version 2.11.14
without any problem. Today I decided to download and install the brand new
2.11.15. And here's where my problems began... I tried converting a file
from within jEdit... no way. No big deal... I opened a comand prompt and did
it manually from there. The result does not seem to be any different from
what I've already typed. Anyway, I went back to jEdit and ran lilypond over
the file. Everything went fine until the program tried to make the final pdf
file... it could not. Here's the resulting output:
-
This is a console shell for running LilyPond and related commands.
Enter %help to see the available special commands.
LilyPond ready.
%lilypond %args C:\Documents and Settings\DiosnelH\My
Documents\Scores\Moreno Torroba\Suite Castellana\suite_castellana.ly
Processing `C:/Documents and Settings/DiosnelH/My Documents/Scores/Moreno
Torroba/Suite Castellana/suite_castellana.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40][48][56][64][72][80][88][90]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music...
C:/Documents and Settings/DiosnelH/My Documents/Scores/Moreno Torroba/Suite
Castellana/suite_castellana.ly:163:23: warning: cannot find start of
(de)crescendo
{fis'' d'8[
\! fis d'] fis d'[ e c'] d b'[ d b'] d
b'[ c a']}\\
[8]
warning: Ignoring grob for slur: DynamicLineSpanner. avoid-slur not set?
[16]
C:/Documents and Settings/DiosnelH/My Documents/Scores/Moreno Torroba/Suite
Castellana/suite_castellana.ly:193:55: warning: Ignoring grob for slur:
DynamicLineSpanner. avoid-slur not set?
{\set doubleSlurs = ##t \times 2/3 {d' fis8
\( c e) d fis(}
\times 2/3 {c e) d fis( c e)\!} d fis c e4 d fis8 \set
doubleSlurs = ##f }\\
[24]
C:/Documents and Settings/DiosnelH/My Documents/Scores/Moreno Torroba/Suite
Castellana/suite_castellana.ly:201:23: warning: cannot find start of
(de)crescendo
{fis'' d'8[
\! fis d'] fis d'[ e c'] d b'[ d b'] d
b'[ c a']}\\
[32][33]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40][48][56][64][72][80][88][93]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
warning: outside-staff object DynamicLineSpanner has an empty extent
warning: outside-staff object DynamicLineSpanner has an empty extent
warning: too many colliding rests
Layout output to `suite_castellana.ps'...
Converting to `suite_castellana.pdf'...'gs' is not recognized as an internal
or external command,
operable program or batch file.
`gs -q -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS#595.28 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS#841.89 -dCompatibilityLevel#1.4
-dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE#pdfwrite -sOutputFile#suite_castellana.pdf
-c .setpdfwrite -f suite_castellana.ps' failed (1)
c:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/lilypond/current/ly/init.ly:37:1:
error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here
#
(if (or (pair? toplevel-scores) output-empty-score-list)
c:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/lilypond/current/ly/init.ly:37:5:
error: syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting '='
#(if
(or (pair? toplevel-scores) output-empty-score-list)
programming error: Parsed object should be dead: static scm_unused_struct*
Prob::mark_smob(scm_unused_struct*)
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Parsed object should be dead: static scm_unused_struct*
Context_def::mark_smob(scm_unused_struct*)
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Parsed object should be dead: static scm_unused_struct*
Grob::mark_smob(scm_unused_struct*)
continuing, cross fingers
error: failed files: C:\\Documents and Settings\\DiosnelH\\My
Documents\\Scores\\Moreno Torroba\\Suite Castellana\\suite_castellana.ly
Processing time: 15 seconds
LilyPond ready.
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I'm attaching my .ly file just in case. The first thing I can think of to
solve this is to roll back to 2.11.14, but maybe there's a problem with the
win installer and somebody can look into it.
Regards,
Diosnel Herrnsdorf
% Suite Castellana, de Federico Moreno Torroba
% digitación original de Andrés Segovia
% según edición de Ricordi Americana BA12925
\version 2.11.14
\paper{
#(set-paper-size a4)
}
\header{
title = Suite Castellana
composer = Federico Moreno Torroba
instrument = Guitarra
arranger = Digitación: Diosnel Herrnsdorf
copyright = © 2007 Diosnel Herrnsdorf
tagline = \markup \small \center-align {Music engraving by Lilypond 2.11.15 â www.lilypond.org \smaller ref. Ricordi Americana BA12925}
}
%macros
acelera = \markup { \small \italic {accel.} }
allegro = \markup{ \bold {Allegro, tempo di fandango} }
expresion = \markup { \smaller \italic {espr.} }
igual
Re: Problems with LilyPond 2.11.15
Thank you, Roger. I'm aware of the apparent problems with the (de)crescendo
hairpins, but those did not seem to bother the previous version. The real
problem seems to lie way down, when lilypond tries to write a pdf file from
the ps output...
Thanks again,
Diosnel
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From: Rutger Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Diosnel Herrnsdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 20:31
Subject: Re: Problems with LilyPond 2.11.15
Interpreting music...
C:/Documents and Settings/DiosnelH/My Documents/Scores/Moreno
Torroba/Suite Castellana/suite_castellana.ly:163:23: warning: cannot find
start of (de)crescendo
{fis'' d'8[
\! fis d'] fis d'[ e c'] d b'[ d b'] d
b'[ c a']}\\
...
{a'4.^\lento \times 2/3 {\slurDown gis16( a gis)} e2}\\{e,8\rest e
cis'4 s8 e, b'4}\\
{\once \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #-0.05 a2 \once \override
NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #-0.03 gis}\\{a,2\p a} |
{g' cis fis4. \times 2/3 {\slurDown e'16( fis e)} d4. a'8}\\{s8 e,
ais4 e8\rest f a4\}\\{s1}\\{a,2 a} |
{fis'' d'8[\! fis d'] fis d'[ e c'] d b'[ d b'] d b'[ c
a']}\\
{a,1\mf}\\{s4 \acciaccatura e'''8( \once \override NoteColumn
#'force-hshift = #-0.1 \once \override Stem #'transparent = ##t d4) s
\acciaccatura c8( \once \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #-0.1 \once
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t b4)} | \break
It appears that the pair \ \! is not voiced correctly, if I read the
warning well. If \! of line 163 is instead also attached to the lower
voice at the same time (i.e. first note of line 164) , this warning
disappears:
{fis'' d'8[ fis d'] fis d'[ e c'] d b'[ d b'] d
b'[ c a']}\\
{a,1\mf\!}\\{s4 \acciaccatura e'''8( \once \override NoteColumn
#'force-hshift = #-0.1 \once \override Stem #'transparent = ##t d4) s
\acciaccatura c8( \once \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #-0.1 \once
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t b4)} | \break
I guess the same holds for the second warning.
I tried this with 2.8.8. Maybe 2.11.891 has independent bugs, I don't
know.
Rutger
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Re: Problems with LilyPond 2.11.15
Thank you very much, Stan. I managed to run the file with version 2.10.15 without problems (except for those warnings)... I'll try to solve those little hicups and see if I can manually convert it to 2.11.15. For the time being, I have to stick to the Win version... I look forward to having a Linux box again. And yes, Moreno Torroba was a fantastic composer... this is one of his most lyrical pieces. If you still don't have it, try to get David Russel's recording of Castles of Spain. Regards, - Original Message - From: Stan Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diosnel Herrnsdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rutger Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 01:39 Subject: Re: Problems with LilyPond 2.11.15 Diosnel- I just ran your file using LilyPond 2.11.15. While there were a number of warnings, the processing completed successfully and the pdf looks good. Now, if I could only play Torroba. I'm using a Mac w/ OS 10.4.8. I posted earlier today about my experience with convert-ly being broken and what I did to correct it. It appears that the cure depends on your platform or requires waiting for the next update. Regards, Stan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: sostenido/bemol
As I told Christopher a few days ago (my mistake for not sending the message to the list), here in Paraguay we use sostenido for sharp and sostenida for sustain. Regards, Diosnel - Original Message - From: luis jure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:39 Subject: Re: sostenido/bemol El Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:57:41 -0500 Christopher A. LaFond [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: What I'm saying is that most people in the Spanish-speaking world (at least according to online results) seem to be using nota sostenida, not nota sostenido for sharp (note). yes, i can confirm that's true, nota sostenida is by far more usual than nota sostenido. that doesn't mean necessarily that it's more correct. which, to be frank, i'm not really sure... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: pasting lilypond output into a Word document
Why not try with lilypond-book? You'd be skipping Word. Regards, - Original Message - From: Jon Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 22:48 Subject: pasting lilypond output into a Word document I'm in a Windows environment at the moment, and I'm adding music examples rendered by Lilypond to a Word document. I'm getting quite low printout quality. I'm copying the music from the pdf file (using the snapshot tool in Adobe Reader 7.0 while viewing at 100%, then drawing a marquee around what I want copied, which sends the selection to the clipboard) and pasting into the Word document. The selection is not so large that Word has to reduce it to fit the page. But the result looks much worse than if I print the pdf file directly. Is there a better way to do this? Many thanks, again. --Jon Wild ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Landscape from Lilypond 2.0.1 on Cygwin
Can't you open your file in your reader, rotate it, and save it in the new position? Not optimal, but doable, I guess. Regards, - Original Message - From: J. Daniel Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 13:26 Subject: Re: Landscape from Lilypond 2.0.1 on Cygwin Mats Bengtsson wrote: Don't blame LilyPond in this case, Agreed blame your version of ghostscript (which is used internally in ps2pdf). I can confirm that the orientation is correct when I use GNU Ghostscript 6.52 but upside down when I use GNU Ghostscript 7.05. If you want to investigate further, try with http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ I was guessing that. Thanks for the pointer. -- Daniel Ashton PGP key available http://Daniel.AshtonFam.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ChamberMusicWeekend.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 9445142 http://ZephyrBrass.com ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Need help with Tempo marking / Arpeggios
This seems to be the answer... Thanks, Graham.
Regards,
- Original Message -
From: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Diosnel Herrnsdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 02:26
Subject: Re: Need help with Tempo marking / Arpeggios
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:49:54 +
Diosnel Herrnsdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the tips, Graham. I finally found a way to move the tempo
marking
around... and yes, it was in the manual. The arpeggio, however, is a
different issue. I'm copying a guitar piece; the top voice of the
arpeggiated chord (three top notes) is a quarter note, while the bottom
voice of the chord is a dotted half note. Thus the obvious (for me)
thing to
do was to write them in different layers... I guess I'll have to keep
playing with it.
Ah, I understand the issue now. The answer is invisible notes.
Here's an example:
{ a4\arpeggio c e \hideNotes a, }
\\
{ a,2. }
The syntax might need a bit of work, but I hope you get the idea.
Cheers,
- Graham
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Re: Need help with Tempo marking / Arpeggios
Thanks for the tips, Graham. I finally found a way to move the tempo marking around... and yes, it was in the manual. The arpeggio, however, is a different issue. I'm copying a guitar piece; the top voice of the arpeggiated chord (three top notes) is a quarter note, while the bottom voice of the chord is a dotted half note. Thus the obvious (for me) thing to do was to write them in different layers... I guess I'll have to keep playing with it. Regards, - Original Message - From: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diosnel Herrnsdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 04:08 Subject: Re: Need help with Tempo marking / Arpeggios On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:18:30 + Diosnel Herrnsdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this might be an easy problem to solve... only that I spent so much time on it that I cannot think of anything else. Please take a look at the attached file and see if you can help me to: 1 - Prevent the Tempo Marking (Adagio) from colliding with the notes; and Have you read the section about fine tuning a piece in the Tutorial? It deals with issues such as moving marks around (to avoid collisions). 2 - Have one Arpeggio symbol for each chord. If you want one arpeggio line for each chord, I think you need to make each chord a single chord (as opposed to two chords, sepearated by \\ ). Cheers, - Graham ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: forwarded message from Mike Fisher
As I found out, that's not the way to do it. First of all, make your test.ly file available under your CygWin tree. Then open the CygWin terminal and say ly2dvi -p [route here]/test.ly That should do the trick. Cheers, - Original Message - From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 17:54 Subject: forwarded message from Mike Fisher -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: can't open lilypond
Aksel, Does your CygWin terminal show a prompt? Will it let you input commands? What do you mean by "cannot close the normal way"? Does it mean that it does not accept the "exit" command? If it does, then at least the terminal is working. I thought I had the same problem, but then it dawned on me that I was trying to run lilypond from a DOS prompt... and CygWin installed a Unix version of it, so it wouldn't work. As for the bug file, try doing a file search... if you did everything right, it should be in c:\cygwin\home\Aksel\ (or whatever your user name is) Regards, - Original Message - From: Aksel Kjær To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 20:58 Subject: can't open lilypond I have downloaded LilyPond 1.6.11, Windows version. As far as I can see i have about 50 megabyte files on my hard-disk, but I can't reach the files. I have got the cygwin-icon on my desktop, but when I try to open it I get nothing but a black window. which I furthermore cannot close the normal way. I have tried to run the the program using C:\cygwin\usr\share\lilypond1.6.11 but I only get a list concerning the files and no hint what to do next. I have also tried to make a bug.txt file as it is suggested in the online manual, but nothing seems to happen. I hope you'll be able to help me. Yours sincerely Aksel Kjær ___Lilypond-user mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Need help with Tempo marking / Arpeggios
Hi there, I think this might be an easy problem to solve... only that I spent so much time on it that I cannot think of anything else. Please take a look at the attached file and see if you can help me to: 1 - Prevent the Tempo Marking (Adagio) from colliding with the notes; and 2 - Have one Arpeggio symbol for each chord. Thanks and regards, Diosnel Herrnsdorf Soledad.ly Description: Binary data ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
