\articulate problem

2014-12-26 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
The following snippet shows several problems:

\version 2.19.15
\include articulate.ly

S = \relative b' {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = S
  \clef treble
  c4 c16\prall e r8 r r r r
  c4 c c c
}

A = \relative c'' {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = A
  \clef treble
  c4 c c c
  c4 c c c
}

\score {
 \unfoldRepeats \articulate
  \new ChoirStaff 
\new Staff { \S }
\new Staff { \A }
  
  \layout { }
  \midi { }
}

The chief problem is that it generates a defective midi file in that there is a 
eighth note shift in the 2nd measure between the two systems.
This shift can also be seen in the engraved file.

Another problem is the representation of the \prall in the engraved file, which 
includes a quarter note head without a stem and a whole note.

The final problem is the huge number of warnings and programming error messages 
in the log file.  These include:

  * two instances of:

Articulate_problem.ly:7:20: warning: adding note head to 
incompatible stem (type = 1/1)
c4 c16\prall 
e r8 r r r r

   *  fourteen instances of:  programming error: insane spring distance 
requested, ignoring it

   *  one instance of:programming error: insane spring min_distance 
requested, ignoring it

   *  one instance of:programming error: insane spring constant

   *  seventeen instances of:   continuing, cross fingers

   *  one instance of:programming error:  going back in MIDI time



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Why does \skip extend an extender

2014-11-29 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
In the following snippet:

music = \relative b' {
c4 d e f
f g a b
c,1
}

Lyrics = \lyricmode {
c d e __ _
_ \skip 1 \skip 1 \skip 1
C
}

\score {
\new Staff \music
\addlyrics \Lyrics
\layout { }
}

I want the three skips to skip past the notes g a b.  That is, I want the 
singing of “e” to terminate with the 2nd “f”.  But for some reason the extender 
is extended through the notes “g a b”.  How can I fix this?
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Problem with ChordNames

2014-11-16 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
I am using LilyPond 2.19.15 on a mac running OSX 10.10 (Yosemite).

The following snippet (from section 2.7.2 Displaying Chords of the Notation 
Manual):

 \version 2.19.15

\new ChordNames {
  \chordmode {
c2 f4. g8
  }
}

fails with the following in the log file:

Drawing systems...
Layout output to `document.ps'...
warning: do not know how to embed 
BitstreamVeraSans-Roman=/Library/Fonts/Vera.tff
Converting to `./document.pdf'...
warning: `(gs -q -dSAFER -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595.28 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=841.89 
-dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite 
-sOutputFile=./document.pdf -c.setpdfwrite -fdocument.ps)' failed (256)

fatal error: failed files: 
/var/folders/3_/fhptxgks4vd0t5spsm5mbjd8gn/T/frescobaldi-G7De3Y/tmp_ThbNw/document.ly
Exited with return code 1.

This seems to be identical to a problem reported in 2011 (Can't embed font for 
chord changes), but the answer was that OSX 10.6.7 had a font bug.  Is this 
still the case?  Is there a workaround?
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Re: Anacrusis in multiple tunes on page

2014-10-20 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
Recently you posted:

 It seems clear to me that I am mis-formatting something.
 
 What I am trying to do is is to put multiple tunes on a single page
 as for a set of tunes for a dance. The problem that I'm having is
 that many of these tunes start both the A part and the B part
 with an anacrusis and end the part with a shorter measure to 
 make the  number of beats work out.
 
 Partial works fine for the initial anacrusis, but if the piece has multiple
 parts, each with an anacrusis, the processor complains about the
 subsequent \partial directives. It also doesn't much like a \partial
 at the end of the section.
 
 I've tried just leaving them out, but the programmer in me does not
 like the warning messages that result.
 
 I've noticed that I can account for the missing beats with s and the
 missing time, but this results in unnecessary whitespace and throws
 the overall note spacing out.
 
 Is there an alternative to s that would allow Lilypond to account for
 the missing beats without adding space that I do not want?
 
 More or less minimal example follows -- I've left in the directive blocks
 on the off chance that there's something there or missing from there
 that would influence the problem.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Don

and Keith Ohara responded:

 From what you wrote I see no problem,

I think what he means is that your more or less minimal example doesn't throw 
any warning or error messages in LilyPond 2.18.0.  Here is a minimal example:

\version 2.18.0

\paper { ragged-right = ##t }

music = \relative b' {
\partial 4 c4
c1
\break
\partial 4 d4
d1
}

\score {
\music
\layout {}
}

 which does throw the warning:

Interpreting music...
SpuriousPartialWarning.ly:11:3: warning: trying to use \partial after the start 
of a piece
  
  \partial 4 d4

I think the difference is that your anacruces(?) are in different scores, while 
mine are in the same score.

The good news is that the above snippet doesn't throw any warning messages at 
2.19.15.  So you could upgrade to that or wait for 2.20 to be released.





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Question about a midi file

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

When I compile the following:

 \version 2.19.15

Drum  = \drummode { 
  \set Staff.midiInstrument =#woodblock
  hiwoodblock4 wbh8 wbh wbh wbh wbh4
  r4 r8 wbh8 r4 r8 wbh8
  wbh4 \repeat unfold 12  { wbh16  }
}

\score {
  \new DrumStaff \with { drumStyleTable = #percussion-style
  \override StaffSymbol.line-count = #1 
}
 \Drum
  \layout { }
  \midi { }   
}

the midi notes appear on channel 10 as they should, but they are overlaid by 
what appears to be another percussion instrument playing the following 
simultaneously:

\repeat unfold 3 { toml4\f toml\p toml toml }

i.e., it sounds like a 4-beat metronome.  Here I am using toml only because I 
don't know what percussion instrument is actually involved.

What might be the explanation for this?  and how to stop it?
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Re: Question about a midi file

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Peter Crighton wrote:

 2014-10-14 21:54 GMT+02:00 Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com:
 
 When I compile the following:
 
  \version 2.19.15
 
 Drum  = \drummode {
   \set Staff.midiInstrument =#woodblock
   hiwoodblock4 wbh8 wbh wbh wbh wbh4
   r4 r8 wbh8 r4 r8 wbh8
   wbh4 \repeat unfold 12  { wbh16  }
 }
 
 \score {
   \new DrumStaff \with { drumStyleTable = #percussion-style
   \override StaffSymbol.line-count = 
 #1 }
  \Drum
   \layout { }
   \midi { }
 }
 
 the midi notes appear on channel 10 as they should, but they are overlaid by 
 what appears to be another percussion instrument playing the following 
 simultaneously:
 
 \repeat unfold 3 { toml4\f toml\p toml toml }
 
 i.e., it sounds like a 4-beat metronome.  Here I am using toml only because I 
 don't know what percussion instrument is actually involved.
 
 What might be the explanation for this?  and how to stop it?
 
 I don’t get this behaviour (in 2.19.13).
 How do you playback the MIDI file? Are the metronome-notes actually in the 
 MIDI file, or does your MIDI player software maybe have a metronome activated?

Thanks for the information.  I was using a midi player called Sweet Midi 
Player.  I recompiled my problem file with lilypond v2.18.2 and found that I 
still had the problem.  Then I played both midi's with QuickTime 7; there was 
no problem.

Futher investigation showed that Sweet Midi Player did have an option to output 
metronome clicks on channel 10, and that it was enabled.  I disabled it and the 
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parallel music with selective repeats

2014-10-13 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
I have a piece of music that needs to have all staves but one repeat, and that 
non-repeating staff is twice as long as the repeating.  I tried the following 
but got no joy:

 \version 2.19.15

musicA = \relative b' { c d e f }
musicB = \relative f'  { f e d c }

\score {

\new Staff { \musicA \musicB}
\new ChoirStaff 

\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 \musicA }
\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 \musicA }

   
\layout {}
\midi {}
}

The repeat bar is in all three staves, with musicB following on the first staff.

If I add the unfoldRepeats command to the score, all three stave in the pdf 
are as I wish, and the midi file agrees.

I have tried a couple of things to suppress the repeat bar line on the first 
staff:

  * adding \bar | between musicA and musicB
  * adding \set Score.repeatCommands = #'(#f) both before and after \musicA in 
the 1st staff
  * adding \with { \remove Volta Engraver } to the first staff

but the repeat bar is printed in the 1st staff every time.

Is there a way to suppress that repeat sign?  How?
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 143, Issue 83

2014-10-13 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl



 Message: 5
 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:08:41 +0200
 From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: parallel music with selective repeats
 
 Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com writes:
 
 I have a piece of music that needs to have all staves but one repeat, and 
 that non-repeating staff is twice as long as the repeating.  I tried the 
 following but got no joy:
 
 \version 2.19.15
 
 musicA = \relative b' { c d e f }
 musicB = \relative f'  { f e d c }
 
 \score {

\new Staff { \musicA \musicB}
\new ChoirStaff 

\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 \musicA }
\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 \musicA }
 
 
\layout {}
\midi {}
 }
 
 The repeat bar is in all three staves, with musicB following on the first 
 staff.
 
 If I add the unfoldRepeats command to the score, all three stave in the 
 pdf are as I wish, and the midi file agrees.
 
 I have tried a couple of things to suppress the repeat bar line on the first 
 staff:
 
  * adding \bar | between musicA and musicB
  * adding \set Score.repeatCommands = #'(#f) both before and after \musicA 
 in the 1st staff
  * adding \with { \remove Volta Engraver } to the first staff
 
 but the repeat bar is printed in the 1st staff every time.
 
 Is there a way to suppress that repeat sign?  How?
 
 \layout {
  \context {
\Score \remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
\remove Repeat_acknowledge_engraver
  }
  \context {
\Staff \consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
\consists Repeat_acknowledge_engraver
  }
 }
 
 But it seems like an astonishingly bad idea.

Why?  It seems like an outstandingly good idea to me.  

The original piece had the equivalent of :

musicA = \relative b' { c d e f }
musicB = \relative c''  { f e d c }

\score {
\new ChoirStaff 

\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 \musicA }
\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 \musicB }

\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 \musicA }
\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 \musicA }

   
\layout {}
\midi {}
}

with a note that the first staff was to be played the first time, and a note 
that the second staff was to be played the second time.  I didn't see how that 
would generate a desired midi file.  Is there a way?

Anyway, with your method I get an accurate printed score and an accurate midi 
file.  Thanks.
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Re: lilypond input filename access (Paul Morris)

2014-08-31 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On Aug 31, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@me.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org; Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:27 PM
 Subject: Re:lilypond input filename access (Paul Morris)
 
 
 
 Message: 8
 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 08:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: lilypond input filename access
 
 Patrick or Cynthia Karl wrote
 Is there a way to access the input filename that lilypond was invoked with
 in order to include it in text output to the pdf file generated?
 
 This snippet shows how:
 http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=197
 
 HTH
 
 That helps a lot.  However,  that snippet begins:
 
 % originally made for
 % \version 2.14.0
 % Modified by David Kastrup for V:2.18 on Feb. 2014
 and doesn’t compile without errors.  I added a '\version “2.14.0” ‘ statement 
 and ran the version 2.18.2 convert-ly on it and the result compiles without 
 error.  It looks like David’s actual mods have gotten lost somehow.
 
 
 
 Could you let us have a copy of the working version, please?

Yes, appended.

Note that although the result compiles without error, there appear to be 
defects in the generated pdf in that several text strings lie partially outside 
the page.

(It’s also curious that the comment in line 6 was changed from % \version 
“2.14.0” to % \version “2.18.0”.  I have manually changed this back to the 
original comment.

The modified snippet:

\version 2.18.0
%% http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=197
%% see also 
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/LSR-v-2-18-quot-File-Information-quot-strange-warnings-tc159399.html

% originally made for
% \version 2.14.0
% Modified by David Kastrup for V:2.18 on Feb. 2014

%{ Display ly file information on the score, including file name, file size,
 LilyPond version, date processed, time processed, time last modified, and
 the LilyPond command line. %}

#(define comml(object-string (command-line)))
#(define loc  (+ (string-rindex comml #\space ) 2)) 
#(define commllen (- (string-length comml) 2))
#(define filen(substring comml loc commllen))
#(define siz  (object-string (stat:size (stat filen
#(define ver  (object-string (lilypond-version)))
#(define dat  (strftime %m/%d/%Y (localtime (current-time
#(define tim  (strftime %H:%M:%S (localtime (current-time
#(define modt (stat:mtime (stat filen)))
#(define modts(strftime %m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S (localtime modt)))
\header { dedication = \markup \column {
{ - - - - - - Using Scheme \define\-  - - - - - } % 
\line { File Name = \filen }
\line { File Size = \siz   }
\line { LilyPond Version =  \ver   }
\line { Date Processed =\dat   }
\line { Time Processed =\tim   }
\line { Last Modified = \modts }
\line { Command Line =  \comml }
{  }
{ - - - - - - Using \ly:export\ - - - - - - } % 
{ $(string-appendFile Name = 
  (substring (object-string (command-line))
   (+ (string-rindex (object-string (command-line)) #\sp ) 1)
   (- (string-length (object-string (command-line))) 1))) }
{ $(string-appendFile Size = 
  (object-string (stat:size (stat filen } 
{ $(string-appendLilyPond Version = 
  (lilypond-version)) } 
{ $(string-appendDate Processed = 
  (strftime %m/%d/%Y (localtime (current-time }
{ $(string-appendTime Processed = 
  (strftime %H:%M:%S (localtime (current-time }
{ $(string-appendLast Modified = 
  (strftime %m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S
  (localtime (stat:mtime (stat filen) }
{ $(string-appendCommand Line = 
  (object-string (command-line))) } 
}   }
{ c''1_\markup { \column {
{ - - - - - - In \markup\ - - - - - - } % 
\line { File Name = \filen }
\line { File Size = \siz   }
\line { LilyPond Version =  \ver   }
\line { Date Processed =\dat   }
\line { Time Processed =\tim   }
\line { Last Modified = \modts }
\line { Command Line =  \comml }
}}}



 
 --
 Phil Holmes 

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lilypond input filename access

2014-08-30 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

Is there a way to access the input filename that lilypond was invoked with in 
order to include it in text output to the pdf file generated?
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Re:lilypond input filename access (Paul Morris)

2014-08-30 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 8
 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 08:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: lilypond input filename access
 
 Patrick or Cynthia Karl wrote
 Is there a way to access the input filename that lilypond was invoked with
 in order to include it in text output to the pdf file generated?
 
 This snippet shows how:
 http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=197
 
 HTH

That helps a lot.  However,  that snippet begins:

% originally made for
% \version 2.14.0
% Modified by David Kastrup for V:2.18 on Feb. 2014
and doesn’t compile without errors.  I added a '\version “2.14.0” ‘ statement 
and ran the version 2.18.2 convert-ly on it and the result compiles without 
error.  It looks like David’s actual mods have gotten lost somehow.

I also stumbled upon the following:

filename = #(ly:parser-output-name parser)

which results in only the filename without the path to the file included.
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 139, Issue 68

2014-08-02 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

I frequently need do something like:  c \tweak font-size #-2 c' in order to 
show that one of the two notes is preferred, but the other one is acceptable.  
The problem is that the -2 in the \tweak command is an absolute value, i.e., 
it is not relative to the fontSize being used.  If the fontSize were -3, e.g., 
then the smaller note would actually be bigger than the preferred one.

What I would like to do is substitute for the -2 the value fontSize-2.  Is 
this possible?  If so,how?



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relative note size, was: Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 139, Issue 68

2014-08-02 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
Sorry for the poor Subject.

On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Patrick or Cynthia Karl wrote:

 
 I frequently need do something like:  c \tweak font-size #-2 c' in order to 
 show that one of the two notes is preferred, but the other one is acceptable. 
  The problem is that the -2 in the \tweak command is an absolute value, 
 i.e., it is not relative to the fontSize being used.  If the fontSize were 
 -3, e.g., then the smaller note would actually be bigger than the preferred 
 one.
 
 What I would like to do is substitute for the -2 the value fontSize-2.  
 Is this possible?  If so,how?
 
 


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Re: justified paragraphs in bookTitleMarkup

2014-07-18 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 
 Message: 3
 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:06:40 +0200
 From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
 To: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: justified paragraphs in bookTitleMarkup
 Message-ID:
   CABsfGyWdRsxnY-g3U7EHCepSu+TwohTbeYX=x7mpvgm+wvq...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 2014-07-18 13:58 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Am 18.07.2014 13:45, schrieb Thomas Morley:
 
 2014-07-18 12:57 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 
 Hi,
 
 I still don't seem to understand this markup stuff sufficiently :-(
 
 ...
 
 Best
 Urs
 
 
 
 Does justify-string what you want?
 
 
 Unfortunately not. It's the same as with justify-field. The result is
 basically right, but I can only supply a string to it and not a markup (i.e.
 no further formatting).
 
 Best I can think of right now is the coding below.
 You'll need to insert \n (or another separator-sign) manually at the
 appropiate places.
 I didn't manage to make the empty lines being automagically recognized 
 instead.
 

If you mean as a blank line between paragraphs, I like the looks of the 
following:

\version 2.18.2

\header {
 desc = \markup \column { \justify-string
   #When working on a score it is often necessary to mark the state of
   development on a given intermediate state (printout or shared PDF).
   Instead of simply adding a date it can be very useful to add information
   about the Git revision if the document is in a version control repository.


   \justify-string
   #This module provides markup commands that retrieve information about the
   current Git repository. It is not only possible to get information about
   the current commit but also whether the repository is in a clean state
   (i.e. whether the score represents the state of a commit or contains
   modifications in the working tree).


   \justify-string
   #A generic command can be used to issue arbitrary Git commands.
   For a list of defined commands see the usage example.




 }
}

\paper {
 bookTitleMarkup = \markup {
\fromproperty #'header:desc
 }
}

{ c' }



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Problem ordering staves

2014-07-05 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
I'm trying to do a score where one group of instruments splits and plays 
different music for a while.  I guess that this might be an instance of 
ostia, but I am required to place the new music on two staves in their own 
staff group.  What I came up with is the following:

 \version 2.18.2
 
 A =   \relative b' {
   \set Staff.instrumentName = #A
 
   \repeat unfold 4 { c d e f }
   \break
   \new ChoirStaff {
   \set ChoirStaff.systemStartDelimiter = #'SystemStartBrace
   \set ChoirStaff.shortInstrumentName = #A
   \new Staff { \repeat unfold 4 { c d e f } }
   \new Staff { \repeat unfold 4 { f e d c } }
   }
 }
 
 T = \relative b' {
   \set Staff.instrumentName = #T
   \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #T
   \repeat unfold 8 { b b b b }
 }
   
 \score {
   \new ChoirStaff 
   \new Staff { \A  }
   \new Staff { \T }
   
   \layout {\context { \Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves} }
 }

This works almost perfectly.  The only problem is that the order of the staves 
after the break is reversed from what I want, i.e., in the first system the A 
staff is above the T staff, but in the second system, the T staff is above the 
group of A staves.  I am attaching a png of the above example.

I can see that somehow the new ChoirStaff is independent of the A staff, which 
is why I am using the command \RemoveEmptyStafes; without it an empty staff 
occupies the position above the T staff.

How can I get the ChoirStaff staves to appear above the T staff in the second 
system?

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What is it with \bar ||?

2014-06-29 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
I recently had a problem with a \bar || at the end of a line suppressing the 
initial repeat sign in the following repeat volta section.  The answer was to 
use some magical \bar instead which cured the problem.  It was not clear to me 
then why the \bar || seemed to cause the following section to be treated as a 
new piece.

I am now having a similar problem with the following code:

\version 2.18.2

A =   \relative b' {
f4 g g a% 16
\bar ||
(f4) f f f  % 17
}

which throws an error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER
for the attempted slur across the double bar line.

Is there a workaround for this?  If so, should I be able to figure it out?

I still think the documentation about repeat signs only being suppressed at the 
beginning of a piece is wrong and should be fixed.  It might also be nice to 
have a better explanation why the \bar || has the effects it does.

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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 139, Issue 116

2014-06-29 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 2
 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:04:05 +0200
 From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: What is it with \bar ||?
 
 
 Actually it is a little more complicated.

First of all let me say that I appreciate everyone's patience with me.  I have 
learned more that I thought I would from this discussion.

Second, it seems to me that this topic is much more complicated that it ought 
to be.

Finally, I still think that the following statement in section 1.4 of the 
Notation documentation:

volta   ... If the repeat is at the beginning of a piece, a repeat bar line is 
only printed at the end of
the repeat.

needs modification because it is misleading.  It implies that if the repeat is 
not at the beginning of a piece, a repeat bar will be printed at the beginning 
of the repeat.  That implication is evidently false.



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Re: What is it with \bar ||?

2014-06-29 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
Sorry for not having changed the subject appropriately.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Patrick or Cynthia Karl wrote:

 
 Message: 2
 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:04:05 +0200
 From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: What is it with \bar ||?
 
 
 Actually it is a little more complicated.
 
 First of all let me say that I appreciate everyone's patience with me.  I 
 have learned more that I thought I would from this discussion.
 
 Second, it seems to me that this topic is much more complicated that it ought 
 to be.
 
 Finally, I still think that the following statement in section 1.4 of the 
 Notation documentation:
 
 volta ... If the repeat is at the beginning of a piece, a repeat bar 
 line is only printed at the end of
   the repeat.
 
 needs modification because it is misleading.  It implies that if the repeat 
 is not at the beginning of a piece, a repeat bar will be printed at the 
 beginning of the repeat.  That implication is evidently false.
 
 


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Re: Repeat volta not at beginning of piece doesn't get initial repeat bar line

2014-06-27 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 6
 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:20:16 +0200
 From: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de
 Subject: Re: Repeat volta not at beginning of piece doesn't get
   initial repeat  bar line
 [...]
 Sorry, that doesn't work for me, result is the same.  I assume you're saying 
 to replace the \bar || with \bar .|:-||.
 
 Typo?

No, I cut and pasted.

It turns out that in my zeal to come up with a minimal example, I omitted 
\score { \new Staff { \music }}.  My example compiled, but didn't generate the 
initial repeat bar line.  Putting it in makes it work.  Thanks for the info.

Do you know why omitting the \score info causes the initial repeat to also be 
omitted?

 
 \version 2.18.2
 
 music = \relative b' {
a1 a a a
\bar .|:-||
 
\break
 
\repeat volta 2 { a4 b c d }
 }
 
 \score  {
   \new Staff { \music }
 }
 
 compiles for me and yields in a || at the end of the first and a .|: at
 the beginning of the next line.


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Repeat volta not at beginning of piece doesn't get initial repeat bar line

2014-06-26 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
Section 1.4 of the Notation Manual says about volta repeats:

volta   The repeated music is not written out but enclosed between 
repeat bar lines. If the repeat is at the beginning 
of a piece, a repeat bar line is only printed at the end of the 
 repeat.

But the following snippet does not generate the initial repeat bar line, 
apparently because of the || bar line.  But the || bar line does not 
indicate the end of a piece.

I have tried several things to get the inital repeat bar line to appear without 
success.  I suspect it's not very difficult.  Can anyone please tell me how to 
do it?  And if I'm correct about the problem being caused by the || bar line, 
the documentation should probably be changed.

\version 2.18.2

music = \relative b' {
a1 a a a
\bar ||

\break

\repeat volta 2 { a4 b c d }
}


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Re: Repeat volta not at beginning of piece doesn't get initial repeat bar line

2014-06-26 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
 In lilypond-user Digest, Vol 139, Issue 98 Message: 6, Jay Anderson wrote:

 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 08:53:23 -0700
 From: Jay Anderson horndud...@gmail.com
 To: Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com
 Subject: Re: Repeat volta not at beginning of piece doesn't get
   initial repeat  bar line
 
 On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com 
 wrote:
 Section 1.4 of the Notation Manual says about volta repeats:
 
 volta   The repeated music is not written out but enclosed between 
 repeat bar lines. If the repeat is at the 
 beginning of a piece, a repeat bar line is only printed at the end of the
   repeat.
 
 But the following snippet does not generate the initial repeat bar line, 
 apparently because of the || bar line.  But the || bar line does not 
 indicate the end of a piece.
 
 I have tried several things to get the inital repeat bar line to appear 
 without success.  I suspect it's not very difficult.  Can anyone please tell 
 me how to do it?  And if I'm correct about the problem being caused by the 
 || bar line, the documentation should probably be changed.
 
 \version 2.18.2
 
 music = \relative b' {
a1 a a a
\bar ||
 
\break
 
\repeat volta 2 { a4 b c d }
 }
 
 You're right that the \bar || is overriding the repeat bar. I assume
 you're wanting a double bar before the break. Use \bar .|:-||
 instead. You can lookup valid bar strings in bar-line.scm.

Sorry, that doesn't work for me, result is the same.  I assume you're saying to 
replace the \bar || with \bar .|:-||.

I still don't understand why the || bar is overriding the repeat bar, as || 
doesn't signify end-of-piece so the \repeat volta is not at the beginning of a 
piece so the initial repeat bar line should be printed.


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Variable length bars

2014-06-26 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

I'm trying to set a John Dowland piece (Come Ye Heavy States of Night) which 
has a single initial time signature of 4/2 2/2 followed by measures that are 
either 4 half-note beats or 2 half-note beats long, in quasi-random fashion.

It's clear that if I can get that time signature printed, I can set the piece 
by appropriate use of \set Timing.measureLength.

Can anyone point me to a way to do that?

Thanks

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Guile error starts occurring all of a sudden

2014-06-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
I have been using the command(?) #(include-special-characters) all morning and 
yesterday.  Then all of a sudden I start getting this error:

Parsing...
/Users/pat/Documents/LilyPond/tmp/test_guile.ly:3:2: error: GUILE signaled an 
error for the 

expression beginning here
#
 (include-special-characters)
Unbound variable: include-special-characters

I get this error with the following lilypond file, called test_guile.ly:

\version 2.18.2

#(include-special-characters)

Ordinarily, I run jEdit, but I also get the error when running lilypond from 
the command line:

$ lilypond -V test_guile.ly
Log level set to 287
GNU LilyPond 2.18.2
.
.
.
Using `nederlands' note names...
 [test_guile.lyBacktrace:
In unknown file:
   ?:  0* [lilypond-main (test_guile.ly)]
In 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily.scm:
 965:  1* (let* ((failed #)) (if (ly:get-option #) (begin #)) ...)
 965:  2* [lilypond-all (test_guile.ly)]
 978:  3  (let* ((failed #) (separate-logs #) (ping-log #) ...) (gc) ...)
 990:  4* [for-each #procedure #f (x) (test_guile.ly)]
In unknown file:
   ?:  5* [#procedure #f (x) test_guile.ly]
In 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily.scm:
 992:  6* (let* (# # #) (if separate-logs #) (if ping-log #) ...)
1003:  7* [lilypond-file #procedure #f (key failed-file) test_guile.ly]
1038:  8  [catch ly-file-failed #procedure #f () #procedure #f (x . args)]
In unknown file:
   ?:  9* [#procedure #f ()]
In 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily.scm:
1039: 10* [ly:parse-file test_guile.ly]
In test_guile.ly:
   3: 11* (include-special-characters)

test_guile.ly:3:1: In expression (include-special-characters):
test_guile.ly:3:1: Unbound variable: include-special-characters

My OS is OSX 10.7.5.

I ran Disk Utility (verify disk) on my hard disk (where /Applications lives) 
and got a clean bill-of-health.
When I first encountered the error, I was still running LilyPond 2.18.0, but I 
have downloaded and installed version 2.18.2 and still get the error.

Does anyone have any clue for me?




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Re: Guile error starts occurring all of a sudden

2014-06-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On Jun 10, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Thomas Morley wrote:

 
 I get this error with the following lilypond file, called test_guile.ly:
 
\version 2.18.2
 
#(include-special-characters)
 
 Hi,
 
 you need to do it in \paper
 
 \paper { #(include-special-characters) }
 
 works for me.
 
 Cheers,
  Harm

Doh!  Many thanks.

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Re: Can header items be footnoted?

2014-06-08 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
In lilypond-user Digest, Vol 139, Issue 21 Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote:

 Message: 4
 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 10:29:32 +0200
 From: Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Can header items be footnoted?
 
 2014-06-07 19:34 GMT+02:00 Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com:
 
 
 The result was a title of My * Title, but no footnote and no errors in
 the log file.
 
 
 Here's a workaround :
 
 
 \version 2.18.2
 
 \header {
 
  title = \markup { My* Title }
 
 }
 
 \markup { \null \footnote \null \italic * Moi, moi, moi! }
 
 
 \relative b' { c, d e f g a b c }
 
 %
 
 
 HTH,
 
 Pierre

That helps a lot.  Merci beaucoup!


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Can header items be footnoted?

2014-06-07 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

I tried to footnote a title as follows:

\version 2.18.0

\header {
title = \markup { My
  \footnote * \italic * Mine, mine, mine!
   Title
}
}

A =   \relative b' { 
c, d e f g a b c 
}

\score {
\new Staff { \A }
\layout { }
}


The result was a title of My * Title, but no footnote and no errors in the 
log file.

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/omit and /hide, was Re: MIDI dynamics parsing error

2014-05-18 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On May 18, 2014, at 12:28:22 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:

 Message: 1
 Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 12:28:22 +0200
 From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
 To: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: MIDI dynamics parsing error
 
 
 If \omit is too strong and \hide leaves too much space, maybe overriding
 the stencil with point-stencil will work?

Shouldn't \omit and \hide appear in the Notation Reference Manual, in 
particular in Appendix E LilyPond command index?  I cannot find either command, 
neither in Appendix E nor by searching the Notation Manual.  

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Re: convert-ly question

2014-05-17 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:

 Message: 3
 Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 13:32:28 -0500
 From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net
 To: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: convert-ly question
 Message-ID: a67c64ad-b814-4dea-b38c-6ccff1ae2...@bitstream.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 
 Is there a syntax for running convert-ly on a directory without having to cd 
 into the directory and invoking
 
   convert-ly -e *.ly
 
 There doesn?t seem to be a recursive option.  Since I?ve got .ly files in 158 
 different directories it?d be really nice to be able to batch update them 
 with something like:
 
 convert-ly -e -r *.ly
 
 instead of having to cd in to 158 directories by hand.  Maybe there is good 
 reason for convert-ly not having this capability.
 

If you are on a unix machine (Mac, PC with Ubuntu, etc) you could do that by 
issuing the following command in a terminal window:

find . -name \*.ly -print | xargs -n 1 convert-ly -e

There is also a (possibly free) package for use on Windows machines called 
Cygwin.  It is possible that the above command would work on a Windows machine 
with Cygwin in a command window.

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Dotted half note showing as half note followed by a colon

2014-05-11 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
In setting a piece where two instruments are sharing a staff, I encountered a 
dotted half note which was shown as a half note followed by a colon rather than 
by a dot.  The following illustrates the problem:

\version 2.18.0

Aa = \relative b' {
\oneVoice r2 r4 \voiceOne b
\oneVoice b2. r4
}

Ab = \relative b' {
\oneVoice r2 r4 \voiceTwo a
\oneVoice b2. r4
}

\score {
\new Staff { 
 \new Voice  { \voiceOne \Aa }
   \new Voice  { \voiceTwo \Ab }
 }
\layout {  }
}

A similar problem is noted with the following snippet:

\new Voice 
{ r2 r4 b' b'2. r4 } 
{ r2 r4 a' b'2. r4 }


Am I doing something wrong here?  I get several warning messages, but except 
for the offending dotted half note, the pdf file looks good.

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Can multiple notes be parenthesized as a group?

2014-04-12 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

Consider:

\version 2.18.0

\relative b' {
c2 \parenthesize d
c2 \parenthesize {d4 e}
}

The pdf output for the first measure is correct, a half-note c followed by a 
parenthesized half-note d.  However, the second bar shows no evidence of any 
parenthesizing at all, nor any error indication in the log.  Is there a way to 
do this?  

I realize I could parenthesize the two notes separately, but that is not what 
is in the score I am trying to engrave.

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Double bar line suppresses following repeat bar line

2014-03-09 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
The following snippet:

\version 2.18.0

music = \relative b' {
   \repeat volta 2 { \repeat unfold 3 { c4 c c c } }
   \alternative {
{ c1 }
{ g1  }
   }
   
%   \bar ||
   
   \break
   
   \repeat volta 2 { \repeat unfold 5 { a4 a a a } }
}

\score {
   \new Staff \music
   \layout {}
}

places a simple single bar line at the end of the 2nd alternative.  My client 
wishes it to be a double bar line instead.  I can do that by uncommenting the 
\bar || line, but that has the unfortunate side effect of eliminating the 
initial repeat bar line of the following section.

Is there a way to place a double bar line at the end of the 1st line without 
interfering with the repeat bar line that follows?
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Interplay between keepWithTag and relative music

2014-03-02 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
So I guess I don't understand the subject interplay.  Consider the following 
minimal example:

\version 2.18.0

A = \relative g' {
  c c c c
  \tag #'up   { c' c c c }
  \tag #'down { c, c c c }
  c c c c
}

\score {
  \keepWithTag #'up \A
}

Based on the description on p477 of the 2.18.0 Notation manual (Untagged music 
and music tagged with name is included; music tagged with any other tag name is 
excluded.), I would expect the pdf output of the above snippet to be the same 
as that for:

\relative g' {
  c c c c
  c' c c c
  c c c c
}

But that's not what I get.  Instead it appears that the music tagged with 
down is actually included to the extent that the music in the 3rd measure is 
an octave lower than expected.  Note, too, that an entirely different result is 
obtained if the two \tag lines are interchanged.

I expect that all I need is a pointer to the appropriate documentation that 
explains this.  


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convert-ly version 2.18

2014-01-02 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

I have a vague recollection that someone has already mentioned this, but I 
cannot find it anywhere.

The 2.18 convert-ly is placing \version 2.17.97 in its output files when 
run with options -eb.
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Default bar numbers

2013-11-26 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
Even though the default is for bar numbers to be printed at the beginning of 
every line of a piece except the first one, there are circumstances where a bar 
number is not  printed at the beginning of a non-initial line.  For example, 
the following snippet generates two lines, but the second line does not get a 
bar number:

\version 2.16.2
\relative b' {
\repeat unfold 5 { a b c d }
a b c
   \break
\repeat volta 2 {
d
\repeat unfold 5 { a b c d }
a b c
}
}

Is there a way to force a bar number at the beginning of line 2?  Is this a bug 
or a feature or a documentation problem?  Or have I just missed something?



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Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 7
 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 16:29:26 -0800 (PST)
 From: Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing
 Message-ID: 1384043366945-153614.p...@n5.nabble.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Hi David,
 ...
 I didn't try to modify the space-alist property, and I will have a look on
 it. But (as usual with my posts here), I am not trying to type a specific
 score right now, I am just commenting on how to improve LilyPond.

I think you would be more successful in this endeavor if you would quote enough 
of the message you are replying to to give us poor readers enough context to 
figure out what you're saying.  In this case we don't even know to whom you're 
replying - I can think of at least two Davids who are regular correspondents on 
this list.  I know that at least I would benefit from this custom.  Haven't you 
noticed that most other posters do it?

Regards,
Patrick Karl


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Re:Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:41:49 +0100
 From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
 To: Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com,  Mailinglist
   lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
 Message-ID: 5BFCF5FF54814E1EA940594E7D0D45D1@Advent
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Could you attach the problematic code, please?

I think this is an old and very strange problem, which is illustrated by the 
following code

\version 2.16.2
music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }
 
\score {
\new Staff {\music}
\layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 80)}
}

\score {
\new Staff {\music }
\layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 5)}
}

It's difficult to see why anyone thinks that this (mis)function should even be 
in LilyPond.  The strangeness is only exacerbated by the fact that it's 
documented at the end of section 4.2.2 (Setting the Staff Size) in the 2.16 
Notation Reference:

Known issues and warnings

layout-set-staff-size does not change the distance between the staff lines. 


Maybe the documentation should address how the staff size can be changed 
without changing the distance between the staff lines.

 --
 Phil Holmes
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joshua Nichols 
  To: Mailinglist lilypond-user 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
  Subject: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
 
 
  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:
 
 
 \layout {
#(layout-set-staff-size 15)
  }I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores 
 (SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff 
 size, my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.
 
 
  This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple 
 things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.
 
 
  See attached for a visual.
 
 
 
 
  IC,
 
  Josh
 
 

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Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties

2013-09-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:56:09 +0200
 From: Eluze elu...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
 Message-ID: 522f4f29.9010...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed
 
 well - I think it's described somewhere inta manual. here's a little 
 function to facilitate the change of those 3 values:

What does it refer to here?  
 
 staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
 #{
   \set fontSize = #new-size
   \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
   \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
 #})
 music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }
 \new Staff \with {\staffSize #-16 } \music
 \score {
   \new Staff \with {\staffSize #16 }   \music
 }

I am afraid I don't understand the function of the staffSize function.  The 
following snippet produces four identical, to my eyes, outputs:

   B e g i n S n i p p e t   
\version 2.16.2

music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }

\new Staff \music 

\score {
\new Staff \music 
}


staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
#{
  \set fontSize = #new-size
  \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep new-size)
  \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #(magstep new-size)
#})


\new Staff \with {\staffSize #-16 } \music

\score {
  \new Staff \with {\staffSize #16 }   \music
}
  E n d S n i p p e t   

What would a new-size value of -16 mean?

Does anyone not agree with me that layout-set-staff-size is nonsensical and 
nonworking?  And that the documentation should document exactly what it does?  
and how the staff size can be changed without changing the distance between 
staff lines?  (I feel like I'm in a Kafka novel here.)


 
 hth
 Eluze
 
 
 Am 10.09.2013 18:35, schrieb Patrick or Cynthia Karl:
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:41:49 +0100
 From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
 To: Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com,Mailinglist
 lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
 Message-ID: 5BFCF5FF54814E1EA940594E7D0D45D1@Advent
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Could you attach the problematic code, please?
 I think this is an old and very strange problem, which is illustrated by the 
 following code
 
 \version 2.16.2
 music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b c }
 
 \score {
  \new Staff {\music}
  \layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 80)}
 }
 
 \score {
  \new Staff {\music }
  \layout {#(layout-set-staff-size 5)}
 }
 
 It's difficult to see why anyone thinks that this (mis)function should even 
 be in LilyPond.  The strangeness is only exacerbated by the fact that it's 
 documented at the end of section 4.2.2 (Setting the Staff Size) in the 2.16 
 Notation Reference:
 
 Known issues and warnings
 
 layout-set-staff-size does not change the distance between the staff lines.
 
 
 Maybe the documentation should address how the staff size can be changed 
 without changing the distance between the staff lines.
 
 --
 Phil Holmes
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Joshua Nichols
  To: Mailinglist lilypond-user
  Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:49 AM
  Subject: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
 
 
  Has anyone encountered overall resizing issues when using:
 
 
 \layout {
#(layout-set-staff-size 15)
  }I have tried to use this to scale back several more involved scores 
 (SATB+Organ accompaniment), but if I go any less that '16' for the staff 
 size, my notes, time signatures, words, and clefs stop shrinking.
 
 
  This isn't so much a problem with snippets; I recreated it with simple 
 things, and they didn't come out with the same problem.
 
 
  See attached for a visual.
 
 
 
 
  IC,
 
  Josh
 
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:00:34 +0200
 From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
 Message-ID: 87txhspq6l@fencepost.gnu.org
 Content-Type: text/plain
 
 Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Unfortunately, I've tried to find where it stops doing this, but I cannot
 provide a small snippet. I'm not sure where it happens... I am happy to
 forward the attached .ly file for you to fiddle with.
 
 I'm sorry I can't specify a tiny example. I've tried and am getting a
 little frustrated (maybe fresh eyes would help).
 
 \paper {
  #(set-paper-size Hymn)
  page-count = #1
  #(layout-set-staff-size 12)
  #(define fonts
 (make-pango-font-tree Book Antiqua
   Nimbus Sans
   Luxi Mono

mea máxima culpa

2013-09-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
 To: Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com

 [deleting billions of lines]

 From: James Harkins  jamshar...@gmail.com
 Patrick or Cynthia Karl pckarl at mac.com writes:

 Well, I don't have an answer to the question, but... a reminder... it is VERY 
 uncool to quote an *entire digest* when you're replying to only one message.

I am so sorry and will try to do much better.
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Re: Problems compiling Python-poppler-qt4-0.16.3

2013-08-16 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
On 16 Aug 2013 Robin Newman wrote:

 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:26:14 + (UTC)
 From: Robin Newman robin.new...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Problems compiling Python-poppler-qt4-0.16.3
 
 I am trying to install Frescobaldi on my Mac using Frescobaldi Mac OS X
 install guide by Philippe Massart
.
.
.
 Initially it faield because of path problems and it asked me to add the path
 to the poppler libraries to PKG_CONFIG_PATH
 I typed export $PKG_CONFIG_PATH=PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig to
 add teh path and reran the setup.py build
 It started compiling OK but then encountered a string of errors and bailed 
 out.

I think that export command should read:

  export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig


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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 128, Issue 72

2013-07-20 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Thomas Morley wrote:

 
 Message: 5
 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 00:07:49 +0200
 From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
 To: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Pattern-generating Scheme function challenge
 Message-ID:
   CABsfGyXGMcW4kG=tr-wqkwnD9GyLgrirp8x_3Pnk7=wbk_j...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 2013/7/20 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Hi Harm,
 
 I did a quick compilation (further investigation to follow) - and that's
 awesome! Thenk you very much.
 Of course it will be hard to 'sell' it with a 'hey, look how easy it is to
 realize that with LilyPond ;-)
 
 Best
 Urs
 
 Well, typing
  \output #8
 is _very_ easy.
 
 homerisches Gel?chter (No idea how to translate)

Homeric laughter.

 
 Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: LilyPond blog! who wants to join?

2013-06-01 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 3
 Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 23:59:12 +0200
 From: Janek Warcho? janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
 To: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: LilyPond blog! who wants to join?
 Message-ID:
   canyddppi4du_sbevqjcqyt_a4zhm2zuf6oc_n+pe1b870m3...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 2013/5/31 Janek Warcho? janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
 this cannot wait any longer: there has to be a LilyPond blog.
 Unless someone has a better idea, i'm going to create a blog on
 WordPress.com tomorrow morning.
 
 and it's time for a first contest!  The blog needs a catchy name.
 Whoever suggests the best name will be the first one interviewed on
 the new blog!
 :D
 
 Janek

LilyNotes

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Re: Error 404 on attachments

2013-05-15 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

O
 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 11:51:06 +0100
 From: Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Error 404 on attachments
 Message-ID: 725883423.20130515115...@ptoye.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
 
 I'm getting Error 404 whenever I click on the URL for an attachment. Am I 
 doing something wrong?
 
 An example is:
 
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/attachments/20130513/318d5cfd/attachment.png
 
 Happens on both Firefox and IE9.

No, you're not doing anything wrong.  The problem is that the URLs in at least 
the digest are just incorrect.  There is not even an attachments subdirectory 
in lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user, much less the subdirectories 
20130513 31835cfd.  I have enquired about this previously.  Apparently, most of 
the readers of the lilypond-user emails get them in a form that doesn't have 
this problem, so nobody is much interested in fixing the problem.

The way I deal with this problem requires that I know the subject and date of 
the email containing the broken URL.  Since I don't know the subject of your 
URL (above), I will illustrate my procedure with another email, namely one that 
appeared yesterday in lilypond-user Digest, Vol 126, Issue 93.  It is Message 4 
from Wim van Dommelen with the subject:  Re: an easier way to create the midi 
block.  At the end of this message is the following information:

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I will find that attachment, which is apparently called flute.ly.

step 1:  Browse to /lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user.  There you will 
see a guide to all of the lilypond user email forever:

• 2013-05:  [Date]  [Thread]
• 2013-04:  [Date]  [Thread]
• 2013-03:  [Date]  [Thread]
• 

step 2:  click on [Thread] for the month of the message I'm interested, in this 
case the one of the first line, 2013-05

step 3:  This yields a list of all the emails in May, 2013, arranged by thread 
with the threads sorted on the subject; in this case we are interested in Re: 
an easier way to create the midi block.  It turns out that this thread was 
started in April, so the initial message in the thread is not in the threads 
for May, 2013.  So I go down the list of threads until I find Re: an easier 
way to create the midi block.  (If the initial message had been in May, this 
thread would have been listed under an easier way to create the midi block.)  
The messages within the threads are sorted by date, so I look for a message by 
Wim van Dommelen on May 14:

• Re: an easier way to create the midi block, Wim van 
Dommelen, 2013/05/15

This is a link to the actual archived message.

step 4:  Click on that link.  In that message we find a link, flute.ly.

step 5:  Click on the flute.ly link and there it is.



 
 
 Regards,
 
 Peter
 mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 126, Issue 97

2013-05-15 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 
 Message: 8
 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:57:18 -0400
 From: st...@linuxsuite.org
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: \grace in repeat breaks volta spanner?
 Message-ID:
   8dd9003f600bf39356e1bb4ed2b46c36.squir...@emailmg.netfirms.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
 
 
  HOwdy!
 
I have a problem putting a grace note in a repeat, when there are
 two staves
 in a system. See this link for a simplified example
 
 http://indra2.web.net/~linuxsui/gooeytar.com/public/lilypond/
 
 http://indra2.web.net/~linuxsui/gooeytar.com/public/lilypond/lily_grace_error.pdf
 
This is the error when compiling the source file
 
 GNU LilyPond 2.16.2
 Processing `lily_grace_error.ly'
 Parsing...
 Interpreting music...
 warning: already have a volta spanner, ending that one prematurely
 [8][8]
 Preprocessing graphical objects...
 Finding the ideal number of pages...
 Fitting music on 1 page...
 Drawing systems...
 Layout output to `lily_grace_error.ps'...
 Converting to `./lily_grace_error.pdf'...
 Success: compilation successfully completed
 
 
  Works if there is just one stave. Is there a fix for this?
 
   This is the lilypond code that the above was created from
 
 \version 2.16.2
 
 global = {
  \time 3/4
  \clef G_8
  \key g \minor
 }
 
 guitarone = \relative c {
 
   \repeat volta 2 { cis2. | }
   \alternative {
   { cis4 r r }
   { cis4 r r }
}
 
   \repeat volta 2 { fis2. | }
   \alternative {
   { \grace fis16  g2. |}
   { g2. |}
}
 }
 
 guitarthree = \relative c'  {
 
   \repeat volta 2 { a2. | }
   \alternative {
   { d2. | }
   { d2. | }
   }
 
   \repeat volta 2 { d2. | }
   \alternative {
   { g2. |}%   = first 
 alternative to the second volta
   { g2. \bar |. |}
   }
 }
 
 \score {
 
   \new StaffGroup {
   
   \new Staff  \global \guitarone 
   \new Staff  \global \guitarthree 
   
   }
 
   \layout { }
 }
 
 
  Ideas?

This problem and its solution are discussed in the Known issues and warnings 
at the end of Section 1.2.6  Special rhythmic concerns, Grace notes.  You 
should write the first alternative to the second volta of guitarthree so:

{ \grace s16 g2. |}


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Re: Breathes placement

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On May 1, 2013, at 5:49 PM, g...@sdf.org wrote:

 Message: 6
 Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 00:49:32 +0200 (CEST)
 From: g...@sdf.org
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Breathes placement
 Message-ID: alpine.deb.2.02.1305020034200.19...@svobanppv.bet
 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
 
 
 Hi list,
 
 I have a question about the placements of breathe symbols.
 
 When measure bars are placed automatically, and when a \breathe is placed 
 at the end of a measure, it seems that it is placed *after* the bar, 
 before the first note of the next measure.  I would like them to be placed 
 after the last note of the measure to which they belong.  I know that it 
 is possible to tweak their position with
 
 \context { \Staff \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(-1.0 . 0.0) }
 
 for example, but this does not really solve the problem, because the 
 breathe symbols that are correctly positioned by default (in the middle of 
 a measure) would also be affected by this setting.
 
 I also tried to force the breathe symbol to be placed before the bar by 
 putting an explicit \bar | or \bar  indication in the source file, but 
 LilyPond then puts it in an otherwise empty measure.
 
 In short: is there a way to force LilyPond to put breathe symbols always 
 after the previous note, i.e. as close as possible to that note?

The following snippet results in the breath mark just after the f in the first 
measure:

\version 2.16.2

\relative c' { c d e f\breathe g a b c }
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 125, Issue 103

2013-04-20 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Rosen wrote:

 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:48:30 +
 From: Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: RehearsalMark and meter change
 Message-ID:
   16ec1eb64c3829458f85e80f7458ffd950707...@enigma.rosen.lan
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Below are two examples, identical except for the fact that the second one has 
 a RehearsalMark where the first one doesn't.
 
 \version 2.16.1
 { \time 9/4   c'1. c'2. | \time 6/4 c'1. | }
 { \time 9/4 \mark c'1. c'2. | \time 6/4 c'1. | }

\mark requires an argument.  In this case it is using c'1. as the argument.

Write \mark \default to get what you want.
 
 When I compile them, the first example appears as expected, but the second 
 one does not (see attachment). For the life of me, I can't figure out what 
 the problem is... Can someone help me?
 
 DR
 
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Re: Column of music and a column of graphics... or creating invisible measures...

2013-03-20 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:45 PM, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote:

 Message: 5
 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:17:42 -0700 (PDT)
 From: rem-d andrewree...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Column of music and a column of graphics... or creating
   invisible   measures...
 Message-ID: 1363731462888-143065.p...@n5.nabble.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n143065/cadences.png 
 
 Hi, first post on this forum.
 
 I wish to have something similar to the image attached. At the moment my
 code is rather simple:
 
 /upper = {
  \override Score.KeyCancellation #'stencil = ##f
  \set Score.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #'#(#f #f #t)
  \override Score.BarNumber #'stencil = ##f
  \override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
  \time 2/4
  \relative c''{
   \key a \major
 e b
 a, cis,
 \break
 \key bes \major
 f c a'
 ees  g bes
 \break 
 / . etc for the upper part. Similar for the lower /
 }
 
 \score{
   \new PianoStaff
 \new Staff  = upper \upper
 \new Staff = lower \lower
 /
 
 
 I've experimented with using columns in markup but this just didn't seem to
 do the trick. A slightly unsatisfying way to solve this would be to make the
 measures completely invisible so only the notes (or graphics: i.e the lines)
 would be visible.
 
 Hope this makes sense. Apologies if this is something people have answered
 thousands of times!

It's difficult to tell from your code what you are after.  You do know that / 
is not the beginning of a comment in LilyPond, don't you.   In any case, the 
following seems to be close to the spirit of your attached image:

\version 2.16.2

\paper {
ragged-bottom = ##t
ragged-last-bottom = ##t
ragged-right = ##t
}

upper =  \relative c''{
 \override Score.KeyCancellation #'stencil = ##f
 \set Score.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #'#(#f #f #t)
 \override Score.BarNumber #'stencil = ##f
 \override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
e b
a, cis,
\break
\key bes \major
f c a'
ees  g bes
\break 
% . etc for the upper part. Similar for the lower /
}

global = {   \time 2/4 \key a \major }

\score {
  \new PianoStaff 
  \new Staff  { \global \upper }
  \new Staff  { \global \upper }
  
  \layout { indent = 0 }
}   

HTH

 
 
 Andy
 
 
 
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 http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Column-of-music-and-a-column-of-graphics-or-creating-invisible-measures-tp143065.html
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Re:Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't do anything

2012-11-11 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Marc Hohl wrote:

 Message: 1
 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:10:44 +0100
 From: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't
   do  anything
 Message-ID: 509f5d84.7050...@hohlart.de
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
 
 Am 10.11.2012 14:49, schrieb David Kastrup:
 [...]
 -i isn't an option of touch. It is an option of rm. The touch places 
 a file -i in the directory. At least with POSIX sort order, this is 
 bound to come rather early in a directory listing, so if you have 
 files a, b, c in the directory, rm * .o expands into rm -i a b c .o 
 It does not help much if you have a sort order where - gets ignored, 
 obviously. 
 Hey, that's clever!
 
 Marc

Indeed, it is clever.  However, it doesn't seem to work on a mac running OSX 
10.7.5.  I find that the command touch .\-i creates a file called .-i, 
which doesn't look like the -i option to the rm command.

I can get it to work with any of these commands:

touch -i

touch -- -i

echo  -i

Pat

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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 120, Issue 36

2012-11-08 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
 Message: 8
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:34:22 -0800 (PST)
 From: soundsfromsound soundsfromso...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Optional args in event-function not working with 2.17.6 ?
 Message-ID: 1352424862351-136046.p...@n5.nabble.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 I just ran this in v2.16.0 and it looks like this:
 
 http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n136046/2.16.0.jpg 
 
 
 
 -
 composer | sound designer
 --
 View this message in context: 
 http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Optional-args-in-event-function-not-working-with-2-17-6-tp136044p136046.html
 Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


Is there any chance you could be persuaded to include a quotation of the 
message you're replying to?  

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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 120, Issue 37

2012-11-08 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
 
 Message: 7
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:56:35 -0800 (PST)
 From: soundsfromsound soundsfromso...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 120, Issue 36
 Message-ID: 1352429795869-136054.p...@n5.nabble.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 I replied to this:
 
 Optional-args-in-event-function-not-working-with-2-17-6-td136044.html#a136046
 http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Optional-args-in-event-function-not-working-with-2-17-6-td136044.html#a136046
   
 

OK, I'm going to try one more time and then give up.  Is there any possibility 
you could follow the usual usenet etiquette and quote the message you are 
responding to.  Not in that one message.  In general.

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Re: update all files with convert.ly (Vol 118, Issue 26)

2012-09-06 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

 Message: 5
 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 23:47:31 +0200
 From: Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@fam.tuwien.ac.at
 To: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: update all files with convert.ly

 On 2012-09-04 11:37, David Kastrup wrote: Stefan Thomas 
 kontrapunktste...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Dear community,
 how can I update all my ly files (including subfolders) with one
 command?
 
 Depending on operating system, something like
 
 find -name '*.ly' -exec convert-ly -ed {} \;
 
 might do the trick.  Needless to say, create a backup first.
 
 Plus, if convert-ly is not able to convert a particular feature 
 automatically, it only prints out a warning that you need to fix 
 something manually, but you'll have no indication in which file and 
 where exactly you have to do some manual work….


One way to cope with that, if the OS is sufficiently unix-like, is:

for f in `find . -name \*.ly -print`
do
  echo Converting $f
  convert-ly -ed $f
done

Then any files which had problems could be identified and addressed 
individually.

Pat



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Re: Documentation for v2.16.0

2012-09-01 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
I am a little confused about the documentation for v2.16.0.  It seems 
completely different from the documentation available for previous versions.

Because of limited bandwidth, it is essential that I download the documentation 
for LilyPond.  Heretofore, this consisted of getting the provided pdf files 
(more convenient for me than html files).  The closest thing I could find was 
the documentation tar ball,  lilypond-2.16.0-1.documentation.tar.bz2, which 
contains html files in subdirectory doc, info files in subdir info, man files 
in subdir man, and who knows what in subdir omg.

Have I missed an explanation of the docs for v2.16.0?  Are the pdf files 
available somewhere?  Where?

Thanks,
Pat Karl

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Documentation for v2.16.0

2012-09-01 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl

I am a little confused about the documentation for v2.16.0.  It seems 
completely different from the documentation available for previous version.

Because of limited bandwidth, it is essential that I download the documentation 
for LilyPond.  Heretofore, this consisted of getting the provided pdf files 
(more convenient for me that html files).  The closest thing I could find was 
the documentation tar ball,  lilypond-2.16.0-1.documentation.tar.bz2, which 
contains html files in subdirectory doc, info files in subdir info, man files 
in subdir man, and who knows what in subdir omg.

Have I missed an explanation of the docs for v2.16.0?  Are the pdf files 
available somewhere?  Where?

Thanks,
Pat Karl

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