Re: PDF-Editor Links in Windows

[Thomas WillNot]

I don't think that is the problem.

I've attached a screenshot of the error message given by TextPad.  It asks 
to create a file with the Desktop path, followed by the actual file path, 
followed by the line numbers.  Even if the first part could be stripped out 
somehow, I don't think any of these editors would understand the textedit 
protocol or that the numbers at the end of the path refer to a line numbre.

"Phil Holmes"  wrote in message 
news:B084FC566DA94CE3A4570136544F6BC3@Advent...
> Looks like your reply worked OK.  I'd not yet post this in -bugs, but it
> could be argued that -devel is more appropriate.
>
> Anyway, looking at the error message again, it looks like LilyPad is 
> trying
> to open "texedit://filename".  The "texedit://" appears to be 
> superfluous -
> are you able to strip that off in any way?
>
> --
> Phil Holmes
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thomas Wilmot" <1137...@acadiau.ca>
> To: "'Phil Holmes'" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:24 PM
> Subject: RE: PDF-Editor Links in Windows
>
>
> I hope I'm doing this right...still trying to figure out this mailing list
> after all these years!
>
> I replied to the message but sent a carbon copy to lilypond-user@gnu.org?
>
> I used the Gmane Web interface in the past, but it's down, so trying to do
> it the "normal" way by actually using eMail!  Quite a barrier to new users 
> I
> think!
>
> Anyway,  I did try doing everything from the root of the drive, with a
> one-word file name and got the same error message.  I also tried it with
> another text editor (TextPad) and got a similar error message.  I just 
> don't
> think any of the text editors (including LilyPad) are programmed to
> understand this textedit protocol!
>
> Should I be posting in the bug mailing list?
>
> Thanks,
>Thomas
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday December 14, 2016 6:20 a.m.
>> To: Thomas Wilmot
>> Subject: Re: PDF-Editor Links in Windows
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Thomas Wilmot" <1137...@acadiau.ca>
>> To: "LilyPond Usergroup!" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:15 AM
>> Subject: PDF-Editor Links in Windows
>>
>>
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> > I just thought I should once again draw some attention to the PDF
>> > Document-Text Editor hyperlink bug which exists at least in
>> Microsoft
>> > Windows.
>> >
>> > There is a post archived here:
>> >
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2013-04/msg00055.html
>> > in which Phil concludes that this is in fact a bug, as the Windows
>> > installer does not create a functioning environment.
>> >
>> > I posted a while back about the same issue here:
>> >
>> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/PDF-Links-in-Windows-td181761.ht
>> > ml
>> >
>> > I ran into it again today, but seem to have made new progress!
>> >
>> > I was again trying to follow the guidelines at this page:
>> > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa767914(v=vs.85).aspx
>> >
>> > I tried simply making a text file with .REG extension, then
>> > double-clicking
>> > to merge with the registry, but it didn't work.  When I dug
>> in with the
>> > Registry Editor, the Guile scheme was there, presumably
>> from the initial
>> > installation.
>> >
>> > Anyway, after messing around with the registry for a while,
>> I finally
>> > got the [editor] application I requested to open!
>> >
>> > This means that all the links in the hyperlink chain are
>> working but
>> > the last!
>> >
>> > 1.  The PDF viewer is recognizing and sending out the URI request
>> > properly.
>> > 2.  Internet Explorer is translating the URI, as described
>> on the MSDN
>> > page.
>> > 3.  The registry is calling the editor application (or whatever
>> > application
>> > I tell it to)
>> > 4.  The Editor Application is receiving the message from MSIE and
>> > appearing
>> > when called for even though the slashes are the wrong way!
>> > 5.  The last step is the editor actually understanding the URI and
>> > handling
>> > it correctly.
>> >
>> > All the people who have this working seem to be using Vim,
>> Emacs, or
>> > some other crazy editor! I just want any simple text editor
>> to be able
>> > to understand the URI. I would
>> > personally like Frescobaldi to understand it (which is
>> probably something
>> > I
>> > should go contact them about), but given that LilyPad is
>> the text editor
>> > which is included with LilyPond, it would make sense for it
>> to be fully
>> > functional out of the box, including the hyperlinking
>> between the original
>> > and Gold standard PDF reader from the creators of the
>> format (Acrobat
>> > Reader) and the LilyPond-included text editor!
>> >
>> > It seems that some Unicode support has been gained by
>> LilyPad since I
>> > last used it which is great! (hence the lilypad-ascii.exe version),
>> > though I think this 

Markup on different lines

[Thomas Willnot]

I am trying to write three markup comments in the music and they should be
all on their own lines. I can't seem to find anything about that anywhere.

Thanks,
Thomas



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Transposition Confusion

[Thomas WillNot]

Hi,

I am having issues with transposition in my score for brass band.

LilyPond is likely working just how it should, but I have been reading about
it here
,
and I just can't figure out what I should be doing differently!

Here is an small example from the trumpet part of my score:
\version "2.18.2"

\relative c''' {
  
  \transposition bes
   \key bes \major
\time 2/2
 r4\f g-. d8-. c8-. g4-.
 c4-. d4-. r2
 r4 g-. d8-. c8-. g4-.
 c4-. d4-. r2
 r4 g-. d8-. c8-. g4-.
 c4-. d8-. g8-. d4-. c8-. g8-. }

I am using the score wizard from Frescobaldi, and this is pretty well the
way it set it up.  It is resulting in a part with two flats when there
should be none.  From what I am reading it seems like I am right to use
\transposition rather than \transpose since the notes are entered as they
look in the printed score.

Please let me know what I'm doing wrong!

Thanks,
Thomas


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Re: Markup on different lines

[Thomas WillNot]

Simon Albrecht  mail.de> writes:

> 
> On 30.10.2015 13:48, David Kastrup wrote:
> > Simon Albrecht  mail.de> writes:
> >
> >> On 30.10.2015 11:58, Thomas Willnot wrote:
> >>> I am trying to write three markup comments in the music and they should be
> >>> all on their own lines. I can't seem to find anything about that anywhere.
> >> Quite bad style to post the same question twice.
> > Not sure he did.
> 
> The other one is hidden in the ‘Sibelius 7…’ thread.
> 
> >
> >> I could’ve saved the time writing a reply if I had known that David
> >> Kastrup already replied to the new thread.
> > Is there a "new thread"?  I replied to a mail sent privately but did not
> > notice it was private before finishing the reply and then I did not want
> > to throw it away, find out whether there was a public copy with the same
> > text (as apparently it was), and reply to that instead.
> >
> > So it's probably my fault that the threading looks haywire and
> > references a message id that was never public.
> 
> Not at all.
> Yours, Simon
> 
> ___

Yes, I'm sincerely sorry for this mistake; I am very grateful for everyone's
help but I'm new to this whole mailing list thing and so I accidentally sent
David a "Reply" instead of "Reply all" including this group which is why I
sent a second message as I thought it wouldn't show up in the group
otherwise.  It's also been forked into the Denemo mailing list by Richard,
so it is a unusual thread indeed. I've been up all night trying to figure
this out and so have made some foolish mistakes.

Thomas
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Re: Transposition Confusion

[Thomas WillNot]

Just to clarify, every instrument's line is showing up with two flats (the
piece is in B flat major) so the non-transposing instruments are fine, but
the others are not of course.


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Re: Sibelius 7 to LilyPond Conversion!

[Thomas WillNot]

Richard Shann  rshann.plus.com> writes:

> You will be better
> just exporting the music rather than taking the whole file export. There
> is a command to export just the part that the cursor is on, (or you
> could script something to suit yourself).
> 
> Richard
> 


And what command would that be?


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Sibelius 7 to LilyPond Conversion!

[Thomas WillNot]

Hello,

I have a multi-part band score in Sibelius 7 that I have been trying to
convert to LilyPond format. (No, not the original Sibelius 7 for RISC OS,
but rather the newer Sibelius 7.1.3.77 for Microsoft Windows.)

I have exported it into the MusicXML exchange format and attempted to use
the MusicXML2LY program supplied with LilyPond with no luck.
It will read the XML file but then spit out a bunch of complaints, but no
LilyPond file is produced!
I tried splitting a single instrument's part from the main Sibelius file,
then exporting just that and running MusicXML2LY but that didn't even get
rid of any of the errors, never mind produce a file!
I read elsewhere someone having this same problem recently with the same
versions of Sibelius and LilyPond I am using (7.1.3.77 and 2.18.2,
respectively), and they were suggested to try Denemo, which apparently uses
its own methods for conversion and its own of LilyPond.  I'd never used it
before, but I gave it a shot, and it's a really bizzarre program in every
way, especially on Windows, but I figured it out and was able to actually
produce a file!  It does the conversion its own way adding a lot of strange
wrappers, which can be easily removed, however my biggest problem is that
everything is converted in absolute mode.  If I were using the regular
LilyPond MusicXML2LY program, I would simply run it with the -r option, but
I don't see how this can be done in Denemo.
It also adds staccato and other markings with "-\staccato" or "-\markup" - I
don't know the purpose of the hyphen, but it makes the file fail if your
remove Denemo's weird wrappers and other commands.  This should be
changeable with Find & Replace, but still my point is that it'd be nice if
LilyPond 2.18.2's MusicXML2LY just worked! :P

Of course I could manually remove all the octave markings but there are
about seventeen pages of music I'm working with so I'd love to hear of an
easier way.

Thanks,
Thomas


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Re: Sibelius 7 to LilyPond Conversion!

[Thomas WillNot]

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all your ideas!
Jacques, I appreciate you trying conversion in Mac OSX, though it looks like
you got the same result as me with those error messages complaining about
having too many children or something.  I don't think anything's wrong with
my Sibelius files, but maybe Sibelius 7's MusicXML converter just isn't very
good.  It is the first version to natively support MusicXML export!
I wish it would just spit something out despite the errors!  I find LilyPond
itself to be very good at doing that as it rarely fails me (unless I mess up
something serious like the nestedness of my brackets or I leave Acrobat
Reader open; then it will freak out of course!)
I think the easiest for me will be just using Denemo since it seems to work
and then use Simon's idea of converting each file to relative mode with
Frescobaldi.

Thanks again,
 Thomas


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Re: Aw: Re: PDF Links in Windows

[Thomas WillNot]

Hello comrades,

Thanks for all of your replies!
Does anyone know if it would be possible to make the links in the regular
PDF reader go to Frescobaldi?
I have discovered Frescobaldi (after years of hacking away at LilyPond the
hard way!) and quite like it!  But I like to use Acrobat Reader for a
maximized view of my score.
If it can't be done with Frescobaldi, Notepad or MS-DOS Edit also work for
me.  LilyPad is O.K. most of the time too, but it can't handle Unicode! :O
I know how to register a protocol, and those links will help, but I wonder
which method of scripting glue might work for this.  I fear that anything
beyond simple batch scripting would be beyond my abilities to figure out!

Thanks again,
   Thomas


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PDF Links in Windows

[Thomas WillNot]

Hello,

I am a Windows user, and since every single note in my PDF files gets 
a "textedit" protocol link, it would be handy to be able to use it!
Seemingly last manual I see with any help on this for Windows users is 
here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/lilypond/Point-and-
click.html
It gives instructions for users of Mozilla browsers (which I luckily happen 
to be!)
I followed them and the same thing still happens. Although K-Meleon is my 
default browser, it tries to open in Internet Explorer.  I get a message if 
I want to allow the program to open the link (it says the program 
is "guile"), and when I click "allow", the screen goes black for a fraction 
of a second and nothing happens.  I looked for settings in Acrobat Reader 
and found none.

Please let me know if this functionality is possible in Microsoft Windows.

Thanks,
Thomas


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Re: PDF Links in Windows

[Thomas WillNot]

Thomas Morley  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 2015-09-27 23:30 GMT+02:00 Thomas WillNot <113781w  acadiau.ca>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am a Windows user, and since every single note in my PDF files gets
> > a "textedit" protocol link, it would be handy to be able to use it!
> > Seemingly last manual I see with any help on this for Windows users is
> > here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/lilypond/Point-
and-
> > click.html
> > It gives instructions for users of Mozilla browsers (which I luckily 
happen
> > to be!)
> > I followed them and the same thing still happens. Although K-Meleon is 
my
> > default browser, it tries to open in Internet Explorer.  I get a 
message if
> > I want to allow the program to open the link (it says the program
> > is "guile"), and when I click "allow", the screen goes black for a 
fraction
> > of a second and nothing happens.  I looked for settings in Acrobat 
Reader
> > and found none.
> >
> > Please let me know if this functionality is possible in Microsoft 
Windows.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Thomas
> 
> No clue about windows, but the current doc-link:
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/point-and-click
> ff
> 
> Cheers,
>   Harm
> 

As I said, the current documentation only includes setup instructions for
Using Xpdf  
Using GNOME 2   
Using GNOME 3

There are lots of Windows users out there in the world! (Though I'd be 
interested to know which percentage of LilyPonders are!)

Thanks,
   Thomas


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