Re: time notation
Ciao Trevor,
I was in fact waiting for your reply...:)
I have suspended the experimentation for the moment, but as soon as I
can I'll test it.
Yes, I have floats.
Thanks
Best
-a-
Hi Andrea,
Warning: completely untested idea: but could you simply use
proportional notation with 4/4 (hide all the barlines, meters,
etc) and then renotate each floating point value as a fraction over
1000 (or 1)?
\new Staff {
c'1 * 3921/1000
c'1 * 689/1000
}
(I'm assuming you probably have lists of floats that represent
durations or attack times, yes?)
Trevor.
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Re: Mac-intel Leopard
On 27 Mar 2008, at 05:19, Benedict Singer wrote: Perhaps the issue is really just educating Mac users that aren't used to the command line rather than an urgent technical issue. Ben, it's true, and I would like to agree. But you can educate people already using Lily and appreciating it. You won't convince any new GUI-oriented user. At least, that's my personal experience and the ratio at the base of creating the Lily app (as far as i remember the slides by Han-Wen and Jan) Best -a- Ben On Mar 26, 2008, at 19:40, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/3/27, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is only half-true. We are using a pre-release version of odcctools to build the mac version under linux. Then Apple changed some internals in 10.5, but nobody updated odcctools. I get it... If Apple is to blame, it is for assuming that everyone compiling MacOS binaries actually owns a mac. That said, perhaps we could ask Nicolas to distribute his binary? Even unmaintained (e.g. stuck at 2.11.3x or whatever), this could be a nice workaround for 10.5 users, couldn't it? Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
time notation
Hi to all, I guess that the reply will be no but... Is there a way to have time notation in lily? I mean: assuming that you have a line which represent n beats, to put a not at the space representing a certain time point? (like in many Earle Brown's pieces) Thanks Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: time notation
On 24 Mar 2008, at 16:47, Graham Percival wrote: Oh, I see. Well, you could create an invisible time signature of 1 / 14353, then create a note with r1*0.568292 -- I haven't checked the math here, though. Yeah, it gets really complicated but I could try. I recommend keeping this discussion on the mailist, though, since other people here know much more about this than me. Of course, sorry, I never get used to the CC mechanism, so I thought I was replying to the list Best -a- Cheers, - Graham On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:38:17 +0100 Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, yes, I knew about proportional notation. But my problem is: how can I specify note attack/duration in a time notation fashion? e.g attacking at 0.567292 beat for 1.4353 time unit Best -a- On 24 Mar 2008, at 15:27, Graham Percival wrote: That's called proportional notation. It's in the manual. Cheers, - Graham On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:17:38 +0100 Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to all, I guess that the reply will be no but... Is there a way to have time notation in lily? I mean: assuming that you have a line which represent n beats, to put a not at the space representing a certain time point? (like in many Earle Brown's pieces) Thanks Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Universit__ degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Universit__ degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Leopard?
Thanks Hans I will take it into account once on Leopard
Best
-a-
On 13 Feb 2008, at 11:09, Hans Aberg wrote:
On 13 Feb 2008, at 05:31, Benedict Singer wrote:
Yes. If you have Lilypond in /Applications then you can run /
Applications/Lilypond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond music.ly
and then open the result in Preview. Preview in Leopard will also
pick up file changes without having to close and reopen the file,
so you can just leave it open.
Here is a crash course (not OS X 10.5 specific) on how to run
LilyPond from the Terminal:
* Might get the System Preferences http://www.rubicode.com/
Software/RCDefaultApp/.
Then set .ly files to open with your favorite editor (also Xcode is
fine) -perhs possible by the Finder Get Info window. This makes
it possible to open .ly files from Terminal using
open foo.ly
One can also open files using -a
open -a 'QuickTime Player' foo.midi
The -t option opens to the preferred editor:
open -t foo.bar
Type
man open
for more information (quit with q - see 'man less').
* One might create a file named .profile for search paths (for X11,
which does not create a login shell, it should be in .bashrc). For
example, if you do not already have one, it might be made by (don't
include the Fink, MacPorts, and MacTeX parts if you do not use
them, don't include the lines , and finish the 'cat' part using
control-D):
cd
cat .profile
# Add to end of searchpath:
append_path()
{
if ! eval test -z \\${$1##*:$2:*}\ -o -z \\${$1%%*:$2}\ -
o -z \\${$1##$2:*}\ -o -z \\${$1##$2}\ ; then
eval $1=\$$1:$2
fi
}
# Add to beginning of searchpath:
prepend_path()
{
if ! eval test -z \\${$1##*:$2:*}\ -o -z \\${$1%%*:$2}\ -
o -z \\${$1##$2:*}\ -o -z \\${$1##$2}\ ; then
eval $1=$2:\$$1
fi
}
# Set system searchpaths:
# In the case a directory may exist (depending on the program) both
with and without
# parent directory 'share/' (like in the cae of MANPATH and
INFOPATH), the 'share/'
# version is put first, as it is what is used in /usr on Mac OS X
FreeSD UNIX.
# The idea is that if a program is somehow adapted to this
platform, the the stuff will
# be moved to the 'share/' variation, and should thus be ovverride
the unadapted versions.
PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
MANPATH=/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man
INFOPATH=/usr/share/info
LIBPATH=/usr/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib
# Prepend Fink searchpaths:
test -r /sw/bin/init.sh . /sw/bin/init.sh
# Prepend MacPorts (former DarwinPorts) searchpaths:
prepend_path PATH /opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin
prepend_path MANPATH /opt/local/share/man:/opt/local/man
prepend_path INFOPATH /opt/local/share/info:/opt/local/info
prepend_path LIBPATH /opt/local/lib
# Prepend MacTeX paths
prepend_path PATH /usr/texbin
prepend_path MANPATH /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/doc/man
prepend_path INFOPATH /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/doc/info
# Prepend /usr/local/ searchpaths:
prepend_path PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/X11R6/bin
prepend_path MANPATH /usr/local/share/man:/usr/local/man
prepend_path INFOPATH /usr/local/share/info:/usr/local/info
prepend_path LIBPATH /usr/local/lib
Then create a new Terminal window, to make sure this file is read.
* Create a script for running lilypond by
cd
mkdir -p local/bin
cd local/bin
cat lilypond
exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond $@
(Finish by the 'cat' part with control-D, then do)
chmod u+x lilypond
After this, you may run lilypond on a file named say foo.ly from
any directory by typing
lilypond foo.ly
Open the PDF by
open foo.pdf
* Use the tab key frequently, to get the file completions. To get
the file path, one can also drop the file from Finder onto Terminal.
Hans Åberg
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. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
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Re: Leopard?
Thanks to all, Ah, so no problem for me. Trevor, you know, I never write a line of lily code directly...:) Best -a- On 13 Feb 2008, at 06:39, Trevor Bača wrote: Hey Andrea, Note that you may have to download the PPC (ie, G3 / G4 / G5) rather than the Intel binary. This proves to be the case on my MacBook (though I haven't tested on any other 10.5 boxes)! Trevor. On Feb 12, 2008 10:31 PM, Benedict Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. If you have Lilypond in /Applications then you can run / Applications/Lilypond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond music.ly and then open the result in Preview. Preview in Leopard will also pick up file changes without having to close and reopen the file, so you can just leave it open. Ben On Feb 12, 2008, at 14:49, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the late reply. This means that lily program from terminal works fine and it's the Lily GUI App that does not work? Thanks -a- On 11 Feb 2008, at 19:32, James E. Bailey wrote: you can use an external editor (Textmate, TeXShop) to edit and compile lilypond files in osx 10.5 Am 11.02.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Roberto: Dear Geniuses, There isn't a OSX 10.5 version available yet, right? Any idea when is there going to be on? All the best, Roberto. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Leopard?
Sorry for the late reply. This means that lily program from terminal works fine and it's the Lily GUI App that does not work? Thanks -a- On 11 Feb 2008, at 19:32, James E. Bailey wrote: you can use an external editor (Textmate, TeXShop) to edit and compile lilypond files in osx 10.5 Am 11.02.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Roberto: Dear Geniuses, There isn't a OSX 10.5 version available yet, right? Any idea when is there going to be on? All the best, Roberto. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for serial music?
on sourceforge. Though it's looking like I'm still many, many months away ... I'd also like to point to Víctor (if he's been reading the thread) as a great source of friendship and collaboration on all of these points. We've worked together and shared ideas on the fundamental *model* of the score for years. And my work has benefited considerably from many of those conversations ... Trevor. On Nov 29, 2007 3:18 PM, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Still can't understand this list behaviour of replying to the author and not to the list...) Hi Miguel, I don't like lisp-like languages. I really prefer OO languages. More, I've always find difficult to understand lily internals (no figure, scheme stuff etc). So, for my personal preference indeed, I have used Python. There's also to say that Trevor B. has an incredible on going project integrating Python and Lilypond. I started pressing him to release it under sourceforge but evidently he is busy...:-) For the last project I used SuperCollider, an audio prog language which has a Smalltalk-like syntax: this allowed me to integrate notation with audio analysis and synthesis. If you want to integrate very complex audio stuff, use a very sophisticated language and then output to lily, I'll suggest SC. More, I wrote some classes in SC which allowed me to import/export with Praat. So, I have all the audio analysis I need. You may check this: http://www.nabble.com/python-%3Elilypond-tf2401329.html#a6698740 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 20070504.140614.ff7f1029.en.html There are some people interested in stuff like this. We could share some infos on a wiki or something. Best -a- On 29 Nov 2007, at 20:18, Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos wrote: From: Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I typically use lilypond for algorithmic composition. I use Python to =20= script lily. Sorry to meddle in the thread. Why Python and not the built-in Scheme interpreter? Personal preference or something you would advise other people to? I would be interested to know. I've used Excel outputting to Cakewalk in the distant past, then LISP with output hand copied to score, more recently Mathematica with cut-and-paste to lilypond. Mathematica is great, has lots of combinatorial functions and also does audio, but I'm finding some problems keeping things working across versions and it really is not free at all; it's becoming more an environment than a programming language and it's too expensive to use only as a programming language. I'm considering either moving back to Common LISP with Lilypond output or using the built-in Scheme interpreter; but although I have a 15 + year programming background, I'm not finding it very easy to use Lilypond Scheme. Greetings, Miguel Ramos Lisboa -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault . Who doesn't in university , right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for serial music?
(Still can't understand this list behaviour of replying to the author and not to the list...) Hi Miguel, I don't like lisp-like languages. I really prefer OO languages. More, I've always find difficult to understand lily internals (no figure, scheme stuff etc). So, for my personal preference indeed, I have used Python. There's also to say that Trevor B. has an incredible on going project integrating Python and Lilypond. I started pressing him to release it under sourceforge but evidently he is busy...:-) For the last project I used SuperCollider, an audio prog language which has a Smalltalk-like syntax: this allowed me to integrate notation with audio analysis and synthesis. If you want to integrate very complex audio stuff, use a very sophisticated language and then output to lily, I'll suggest SC. More, I wrote some classes in SC which allowed me to import/export with Praat. So, I have all the audio analysis I need. You may check this: http://www.nabble.com/python-%3Elilypond-tf2401329.html#a6698740 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 20070504.140614.ff7f1029.en.html There are some people interested in stuff like this. We could share some infos on a wiki or something. Best -a- On 29 Nov 2007, at 20:18, Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos wrote: From: Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I typically use lilypond for algorithmic composition. I use Python to =20= script lily. Sorry to meddle in the thread. Why Python and not the built-in Scheme interpreter? Personal preference or something you would advise other people to? I would be interested to know. I've used Excel outputting to Cakewalk in the distant past, then LISP with output hand copied to score, more recently Mathematica with cut-and-paste to lilypond. Mathematica is great, has lots of combinatorial functions and also does audio, but I'm finding some problems keeping things working across versions and it really is not free at all; it's becoming more an environment than a programming language and it's too expensive to use only as a programming language. I'm considering either moving back to Common LISP with Lilypond output or using the built-in Scheme interpreter; but although I have a 15+ year programming background, I'm not finding it very easy to use Lilypond Scheme. Greetings, Miguel Ramos Lisboa -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for serial music?
I typically use lilypond for algorithmic composition. I use Python to script lily. Serial practices are just very simple cases. There are other on the list doing so in very complex ways (e.g. Trevor Bača). Best -a- On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:44, Eyolf Østrem wrote: The thread about strange meters made me wonder: have any of you lilypudlians used LP to write serial music? It would seem to be an ideal combination: make a variable and expose it to different output parameters. I assume that with some scheme code, a sequence of pitches could be translated into other series like rhythmic values, dynamics, etc., either through hard-coded permutations or generated from the series by way of some kind of algorithm. If anyone has experiences to share, I'd be interested in hearing about it. I can often say: It's not for me, it's for my son when I ask this kind of question at gaming sites etc. -- this time around it's for a colleague who writes serial-tonal music. I feel so sorry for him when he sits there, the night before the premiere, like a latter-day Mozart, and writes out all his permutations, when it could have been done by a simple lilypond weirdly.ly Eyolf -- You will be audited by the Internal Revenue Service. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: forum?
One can think of archiving the list via Nabble. http://www.nabble.com/MailingListArchive.html It has been done e.g. on the SuperCollider mailing list (and many others). It has proven helpful. Best -a- On 18 Oct 2007, at 10:48, Graham Percival wrote: M.v.Strien wrote: Can't there be a lilypond forum instead of a lilypond mailinglist? No, this would not be helpful. Mailinglists are: somewhat dated, far from structured, and posts tend to become bloated when for instance ppl start quoting quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes, or simply quote a whole post and add one extra line to it, etc. That's why we discourage such behavior. Besides, massive quoting is a huge problem on forums; much less so on mailists. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: forum?
Of course (didn't checked) Sorry for the noise -a- On 18 Oct 2007, at 11:08, Graham Percival wrote: What, like this? http://www.nabble.com/Gnu---Lilypond---User-f1722.html Cheers, - Graham Andrea Valle wrote: One can think of archiving the list via Nabble. http://www.nabble.com/MailingListArchive.html It has been done e.g. on the SuperCollider mailing list (and many others). It has proven helpful. Best -a- On 18 Oct 2007, at 10:48, Graham Percival wrote: M.v.Strien wrote: Can't there be a lilypond forum instead of a lilypond mailinglist? No, this would not be helpful. Mailinglists are: somewhat dated, far from structured, and posts tend to become bloated when for instance ppl start quoting quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes, or simply quote a whole post and add one extra line to it, etc. That's why we discourage such behavior. Besides, massive quoting is a huge problem on forums; much less so on mailists. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault//. Who doesn't in university//, right? I was in this strip club// giving this guy a lap dance// and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information./ (Annabel Chong) - --- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can Lilypond export separate pdfs?
Adam, I haven't followed the thread in depth so sorry for eventual misconceptions. So out of curiosity one day I checked out including one of my pieces as a pdf in a LaTeX document (which i couldn't get happening in Lilypond-LaTeX but could get happening in LaTeX) and it loaded way way quicker but as you pointed out to me in a previous post, you can only include graphics that are 1 page. thus my question about getting Lilypond to export more than one file for multi-page pieces. I assume you have many multiple page pdfs generated by lily, and you want to recollect them in a global document, like a collection of pieces, am I right? In the case LaTeX is not the good choice for complex typography at all. Just quit it, and so lilypond-book, which is intended mainly for musicological example. LaTeX still remains focused on scientific publications. ConTeXt, which is a much more modern and compact macro- package for TeX, is the right tool, as it allows you to quickly control all typographical dimensions. And it is pdf-native. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page I've finished last night this: http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/lamine.pdf Notation is with lily (wow). Global layout with ConTeXt (wow). In the ConTeXt source I have a \copypage command which allow me to import (eventually scaled etc) pages from pdf. e.g. \copypages[../scores/I.UTF.pdf][scale=1000] % 1000 means 100% See here for all the possibilities: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Including_pages_from_PDF_document More, if you're on macosx with seamlessy integrated pdf support, everything works in a breeze: e.g IPA support I used in the score requires TIPA fonts, actually only available for LaTeX. So I prepared a latex source file, rendered it, and copied and pasted with preview thus obtaining a pdf. The I included the pdf in ConTeXt. Hope it helps Best -a- PS: ConTeXt has a lilypond module which should allow you to include lily code. Never tried but it should work well for now i guess I'll settle with seeing what happens when I \include more and more pieces. adam On May 3, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: If you want to make a LaTeX document that contains some scores, I strongly recommend you to use lilypond-book. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: automatic rest grouping
Valentin, Tim I agree. I'd like have such a feature. Actually, I was in fatc thinking of post-processing a core via python as I have the same problem. Best -a- On 10 Apr 2007, at 14:40, Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/4/10, Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I could see the utility of that, but I think it should have a switch in case one wants the c4 r r r to show a quarter note and three quarter rests. Yes, there could be some switch such as \set Voice.autoRestsGrouping = ##t Thank you for adding that... Valentin Villenave. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: non adjacent glissando: state of the art?
Another good idea, Victor... thanks! Best -a- On 5 Apr 2007, at 00:01, v!ctor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say that I've been assuming proportional notation all the time since I use it always (8.4.3 in manual). -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: aleatoric
Hi, As far as I can say, alea can be notated in thousand ways. You should provide an example of the desidered notation output so that people can suggest solutions. Rhythmically independent is too vague... Best -a- On 2 Apr 2007, at 00:49, Neuro wrote: Dear list, How do I write aleatoric music in Lilypond? Actually, I am writing a woodwind quintet, intending to have two group for aleatoric: Horn bassoon is one group playing thythmically together, while flute, clarinet, and oboe is another group playing thythmically together; yet each of these two groups plays rhythmically independently. How do I achieve that in lilypond (2.10.20) - for printing the music out? -- that is, I am not worrring about the midi files for now. Thank you very much neuro ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: non adjacent glissando: state of the art?
Thanks Mats. here's the mail starting the thread I'm referring to, and pointing to a previous and related one: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-08/msg00271.html Best -a- On 29 Mar 2007, at 09:16, Mats Bengtsson wrote: It would be much easier to realize exactly what you want to achieve if you included an example of the LilyPond code you use today (or at least provide an exact reference to some of the earlier emails you mention). /Mats Andrea Valle wrote: Hi to all, I'm experimenting what seems to be a common problem. I have to use glissandos connecting non adjacent notes, e.g. g4~g16 a8. . The common notation, and also the one suggested by Stone (p. 21), is to indicate the rhythm without noteheads. So, I'd like to have a straight line connect the g and the a and a headless note on the g16. I've searched thru the list, and see some (recent) posts related exactly to this topic. There was also a proposal for sponsoring. As I have been out of the list for a year, I'm not understanding the actual situation. 1. Is there a way to notate a glissando precisely in this way (avoiding the trick of using many glissandos connecting the composing notes)? 2. Is there (still) a sponsoring project for such a feature? In the case, I could participate. I saw something about 100 eu, if I understood clearly. 2b. What about sponsoring? Is it still active? It isn't clear to me from the usual page: http://lilypond.org/web/sponsor/options Thanks Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - --- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
non adjacent glissando: state of the art?
Hi to all, I'm experimenting what seems to be a common problem. I have to use glissandos connecting non adjacent notes, e.g. g4~g16 a8. . The common notation, and also the one suggested by Stone (p. 21), is to indicate the rhythm without noteheads. So, I'd like to have a straight line connect the g and the a and a headless note on the g16. I've searched thru the list, and see some (recent) posts related exactly to this topic. There was also a proposal for sponsoring. As I have been out of the list for a year, I'm not understanding the actual situation. 1. Is there a way to notate a glissando precisely in this way (avoiding the trick of using many glissandos connecting the composing notes)? 2. Is there (still) a sponsoring project for such a feature? In the case, I could participate. I saw something about 100 eu, if I understood clearly. 2b. What about sponsoring? Is it still active? It isn't clear to me from the usual page: http://lilypond.org/web/sponsor/options Thanks Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [SPAM] python-lilypond
Me. For two projects. (And, seen the results, probably also for the next ones). In one I generated the complete score. In the other I generated fragments and resulting pdfs have been inserted in metapost code (via ConTeXt) Here you have the scores: http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/Iscrizioni/pdf/iscrizioni.pdf http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/nodi.pdf Here a presentation in Italian, if you're portoguese or spanish speaker (I'm guessing) you can grasp easily the infos: http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/pub/notazioneEComposizione.pdf (many megas) http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/pub/notazioneEComposizioneShort.pdf (shorter, some figures deleted) All the note stuff is generated via automatic translation of python data structures to lily code (translator is in Python, obviously) Global typesetting is done via ConTeXt Best -a- On 7 Oct 2006, at 18:27, bbarros wrote: hello, anyone worked with python to produce lilypond code? cheers ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Embedding lily pdfs in InDesign
This sure doesn't help you, but just to report an experience... I embedded something more than 100 lily pdf files in ConTeXt, then rendered with pdftex, having no problem at all (I filled in an A0 page). -a- On 26 Aug 2006, at 10:55, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Trevor Bača wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any experience successfully embedding lily pdf output in InDesign? I start by creating a new InDesign doc and then placing the lily-generated pdf in the InDesign doc. Just to test I then export as pdf, and the results are pretty bad. Staff lines, ledger lines, beams and hairpins show up fine; but all noteheads, accidentals, and text are missing. My conclusion is that all font elements are missing (the cheese fonts for the music elemen ts, and New Century Schoolbook for the text). That's strange. Does it work when you install the LilyPond fonts into Windows/MacOS ? So is there anyone out there putting lily-generated pdfs into InDesign successfully? (I would prefer to keep everything in lily, but using any fonts in lily at all other than New Century Schoolbook causes explosions when I send the pdf to the printers.) That's strange. What platform are you on? The lily and NCSB aren't any special. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Block diagram of LilyPond
I was thinking the same. It would be extremely useful. Best -a- On 29 Apr 2006, at 12:30, Tomas Valusek wrote: Hello, has anyone created a block diagram of LilyPond, which would show data flow, relationship between various modules, etc? It would be great help for obtaining global idea what LilyPond's about. Tomas Valusek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Block diagram of LilyPond
As I have never contributed to docs, I'm always a bit embarassed in giving advices. So, first many thanks to all. In any case: I found absolutely necessary to have in lily docs many diagrams as possibile. Lily is a complex program, where user can operate at different level. A schema showing all the components of Lily and all the point where user can operate will be mostly helpful. One of the most difficult point with Lily for a new user is that you can make things in many ways. This is richness, indeed. But only if you understand the underlying structure. Some figures will help. My2c Best -a- On 29 Apr 2006, at 18:16, Mats Bengtsson wrote: What target group do you have in mind? Unless you are a programmer, I don't really see how it would help an ordinary music typesetter. /Mats Quoting Tomas Valusek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, has anyone created a block diagram of LilyPond, which would show data flow, relationship between various modules, etc? It would be great help for obtaining global idea what LilyPond's about. Tomas Valusek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: numbers in variable names
On 19 Apr 2006, at 19:19, Daniel Johnson wrote: I always use Roman numerals. Interesting, I understand perfectly the weltanschauung behind the technique. Dadaism is the next step. In fact, I automatically convert numbers in letters with a hash table, so you have this Picabian-style variable names: voice152 = voicebec voice065 = voiceafe and so on... This contaminates also my conTeXt files. (sorry, I guess it won't help..) -a- grin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What to use to edit output after the fact?
Hi, Is there anything free doing the job of Illustrator? thanks best -a- On 17 Apr 2006, at 21:40, Kris Shaffer wrote: I frequently use Illustrator as a post-Lilypond editor for musical graphics for theory handouts or papers, and I just use the PDF files which Lilypond outputs. Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Replys
Obviously Tomas is not asking about his keyboard bindings. He means that when he uses normal reply function he replies to the list member and not to the list. Well, I don't like it very much too as I want to keep the thread on the list and not to reply in some sense privately. This mail is an example: why should I reply to you directly with the list on CC? I don't know if it's a question of setting my mail reader but it is is not what typically happens in all the other mailing list I'm subscribed to. Oh well, I agree, it's not that dramatic, only a bit boring. -a- On 15 Apr 2006, at 17:19, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Tomas Valusek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I've several times pressed ctrl+r to reply to LilyPond maillist message, but since I forget to check recipients, they never get to maillist again, only to sender of a mail I'm replying to. Would it be possible to omit reply-to field in messages coming from lilypond mailing lists? Strange request... you don't know how to use your mail reader agent, and thus ask people to fix the Mailling List settings... Wouldn't be more logical to fix your using of your MUA? When I hit ctrl-r in my MUA, no mail goes to the mailing list, but a backward search begins. Go figure. nicolas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: al niente / de niente - was Re: (no subject)
(in Italian it is not de niente but dal niente) Best -a- On 16 Mar 2006, at 23:27, Trevor Bača wrote: On 3/16/06, Marcus Macauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:29:43 -0800, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/16/06, Arno Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear list, for a contemporary music score i need hairpin having a circles around their tip, indicating cresc./descresc. from/into silence. what is the easiest way to enter these into the score? or does this need to be implemented yet? i did not find that mentioned in the docs. I'm interested in this kind of 'al niente' / 'de niente' thing, too, but haven't had a chance to figure out the right settings yet. If it turns out to be difficult to do currently, maybe we could sponsor together once the 2.9 dev cycle starts. Another way of notating this, which I prefer, but also I think needs to be implemented, is to follow the decresc. (or precede the cresc.) with a bold/italic n or n., for niente. Does #(make-dynamic-script n.) not help? (As in the examples in 8.1.8?) At least one music font/notation program, I forget which, includes for this purpose a letter n in the same style as mrsfp for dynamics. So perhaps the ideal way to implement this latter kind of niente notation (the hairpin circle tip being the other kind) would be to create a new dynamic mark, called n, and syntax analogous to the other dynamics, thus: c2~\ c~ c r\n ...would do a hairpin decresc. to niente, with the n marked under the rest (and, like any other dynamic mark, signalling an end of the hairpin). Perhaps, then, there could be a setting which would decide whether that syntax prints a dynamic letter n on the one hand, or modifies the hairpin with a circle at the tip, on the other hand. Then one could switch globally between the two methods of notating niente without rewriting each instance. The syntax for a cresc. from silence would have to be a little less elegant, though maybe simply: c2~\n\ c~ c\! r And for consistency, the first example could be modified to: c2~\ c~ c r\!\n ...explicitly ending the descrescendo. I don't know whether this sort of syntax is practical; it's just the first thing that comes to mind. Maybe more practical is 1) a setting to switch on/off circles at the point of a hairpin, for the first method of notation, and 2) a new dynamic letter, n (and command \n), for the second method. As an alternative to the second method -- and a perhaps more conventional one, recommended by Kurt Stone -- niente can be notated not with the dynamic letter n but with the italic n. (this time with a period). I've also used a dynamic-font s for this purpose (abbr. silence) in Finale, but eventually backed away from the notation because it just seemed too English-centered and too similar to s for subito in other contexts. This should be possible to do now, but I can't figure out how to switch off the boldface: n = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:text #:italic n. ) ) % This makes the text bold-italic. n = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:text n. ) ) % In fact, even this makes it bold-italic, as if that's the default text font style. Why? And how to switch it off? (I'm using make-dynamic-script, rather than a regular \markup command, because the n. needs to be aligned with the hairpin.) Thanks in advance for any feedback on the niente implementation/syntax (I too might be willing to co-sponsor it) and/or on this latter problem of bold-italic text. Marcus -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: right and left-align
Thanks as usual Mats,
I took a look at docs, and I updated (?) names.
This doesn't work on 2.7.27
\context {
\Score
\override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #right
\override InstrumentName #'X-offset =
#`(Self_alignment_interface::aligned_on_self)
}
warning: type check for `X-offset' failed; value
`(Self_alignment_interface::aligned_on_self)' must be of type `number'
-a-
On 26 Jan 2006, at 10:53, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
See
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-06/msg00637.html
Note that the property names have changed a bit if you use LilyPond
version 2.7.x.
/Mats
andrea valle wrote:
Thanks Mats,
I suspected but wasn't sure.
So what should I use to have right / left-align in the way \center
works?
I need to have instrument names right aligned near staff beginning.
Thanks again
-a-
On 25 Jan 2006, at 14:56, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
If you read the documentation carefully, you will notice that
center-align does something completely different than right-align
and left-align. It seems like a very unfortunate choice of command
names.
/Mats
Quoting andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi to all,
In markup do \right and \left-align work in the same way of
\center-align?
I mean:
\markup{\center-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\right-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\left-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
I thought so, but while \center-align behaves correctly (3 lines),
the other two commands write on the same line thus producing
overlapping lines.
What am I missing?
Thanks
-a-
(on macosx 10.3, lily 2.7.27)
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Università degli Studi di Torino
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Re: right and left-align
Ahah! This works perfectly.
Still, numbers overlap with staffgroup lines. I used horizontalshift
but nothing changed, and with annotatespacing I cannot see how to tune
this parameter.
?
-a-
On 26 Jan 2006, at 17:34, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
OK, use something along the lines of
\set Staff.instrument = \markup{ \column { \right-align gong 3
\right-align bottle 1 } }
/Mats
andrea valle wrote:
(thanks)
This is the result.
But I'd like to have names right-aligned with respect to numbers . I
mean: number in the 3 staves, or at least in each staff, should be
aligned (and possibly non overlapping to grouping line)
-a-
On 26 Jan 2006, at 12:44, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Try
\layout{
\context {
\Score
\override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #right
\override InstrumentName #'X-offset =
#Self_alignment_interface::x_aligned_on_self)
}
}
/Mats
andrea valle wrote:
Thanks as usual Mats,
I took a look at docs, and I updated (?) names.
This doesn't work on 2.7.27
\context {
\Score
\override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #right
\override InstrumentName #'X-offset =
#`(Self_alignment_interface::aligned_on_self)
}
warning: type check for `X-offset' failed; value
`(Self_alignment_interface::aligned_on_self)' must be of type
`number'
-a-
On 26 Jan 2006, at 10:53, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-06/
msg00637.html
Note that the property names have changed a bit if you use LilyPond
version 2.7.x.
/Mats
andrea valle wrote:
Thanks Mats,
I suspected but wasn't sure.
So what should I use to have right / left-align in the way
\center works?
I need to have instrument names right aligned near staff
beginning.
Thanks again
-a-
On 25 Jan 2006, at 14:56, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
If you read the documentation carefully, you will notice that
center-align does something completely different than
right-align
and left-align. It seems like a very unfortunate choice of
command
names.
/Mats
Quoting andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi to all,
In markup do \right and \left-align work in the same way of
\center-align?
I mean:
\markup{\center-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\right-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\left-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
I thought so, but while \center-align behaves correctly (3
lines), the other two commands write on the same line thus
producing overlapping lines.
What am I missing?
Thanks
-a-
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Re: right and left-align
Actually I solved problems of collision adding \hspace in the markup.
In any case, result is a bit complex:
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff \with {
instrument = \markup{ \column {
\right-align \line{ gong 3 \hspace #2.0 }
\right-align \line{ gong 2 \hspace #2.0 }
\right-align \line{ gong 1 \hspace #2.0 }
\right-align \line{ bottiglia 3 \hspace #2.0 }
\right-align \line{ bottiglia 2 \hspace #2.0 }
\right-align \line{ bottiglia 1 \hspace #2.0 }
}
}
Thanks
-a-
On 26 Jan 2006, at 17:34, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
OK, use something along the lines of
\set Staff.instrument = \markup{ \column { \right-align gong 3
\right-align bottle 1 } }
/Mats
andrea valle wrote:
(thanks)
This is the result.
But I'd like to have names right-aligned with respect to numbers . I
mean: number in the 3 staves, or at least in each staff, should be
aligned (and possibly non overlapping to grouping line)
-a-
On 26 Jan 2006, at 12:44, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Try
\layout{
\context {
\Score
\override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #right
\override InstrumentName #'X-offset =
#Self_alignment_interface::x_aligned_on_self)
}
}
/Mats
andrea valle wrote:
Thanks as usual Mats,
I took a look at docs, and I updated (?) names.
This doesn't work on 2.7.27
\context {
\Score
\override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #right
\override InstrumentName #'X-offset =
#`(Self_alignment_interface::aligned_on_self)
}
warning: type check for `X-offset' failed; value
`(Self_alignment_interface::aligned_on_self)' must be of type
`number'
-a-
On 26 Jan 2006, at 10:53, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-06/
msg00637.html
Note that the property names have changed a bit if you use LilyPond
version 2.7.x.
/Mats
andrea valle wrote:
Thanks Mats,
I suspected but wasn't sure.
So what should I use to have right / left-align in the way
\center works?
I need to have instrument names right aligned near staff
beginning.
Thanks again
-a-
On 25 Jan 2006, at 14:56, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
If you read the documentation carefully, you will notice that
center-align does something completely different than
right-align
and left-align. It seems like a very unfortunate choice of
command
names.
/Mats
Quoting andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi to all,
In markup do \right and \left-align work in the same way of
\center-align?
I mean:
\markup{\center-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\right-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\left-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
I thought so, but while \center-align behaves correctly (3
lines), the other two commands write on the same line thus
producing overlapping lines.
What am I missing?
Thanks
-a-
(on macosx 10.3, lily 2.7.27)
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Re: right and left-align
Thanks Mats,
I suspected but wasn't sure.
So what should I use to have right / left-align in the way \center
works?
I need to have instrument names right aligned near staff beginning.
Thanks again
-a-
On 25 Jan 2006, at 14:56, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
If you read the documentation carefully, you will notice that
center-align does something completely different than right-align
and left-align. It seems like a very unfortunate choice of command
names.
/Mats
Quoting andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi to all,
In markup do \right and \left-align work in the same way of
\center-align?
I mean:
\markup{\center-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\right-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\left-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
I thought so, but while \center-align behaves correctly (3 lines),
the other two commands write on the same line thus producing
overlapping lines.
What am I missing?
Thanks
-a-
(on macosx 10.3, lily 2.7.27)
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\right and \left-align
Hi to all,
In markup do \right and \left-align work in the same way of
\center-align?
I mean:
\markup{\center-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\right-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
\markup{\left-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}}
I thought so, but while \center-align behaves correctly (3 lines), the
other two commands write on the same line thus producing overlapping
lines.
What am I missing?
Thanks
-a-
(on macosx 10.3, lily 2.7.27)
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tuplet collision
Dear all, In a piece with a lot of tuplets, I have many collisions between bracket/number and beams. I solved my problem via manual adjustment. Also, I noticed that changing fonts I was able to avoid the collisions. But this is a workaround. I was asking myself if there is a way to automatically avoid collision between tuplet components and note elements by moving up (or down) the tuplet. Best -a- Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fonts in 2.7 (bug?)
I'm trying to change fonts in 2.7.27-4.
I'm on macosx 10.3.9 and Im using the App.
This code works perfectly in my 2.6.4:
\paper {
myStaffSize = #20
#(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree Monaco
Verdana
Verdana
(/ myStaffSize 20)))
}
It seems that this part is ignored in 2.7.27-4 (fonts are default).
Following a suggestion of Han-Wen, I tried putting the 4 occurences of Verdana in my mac in the folder
/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/2.7.27/fonts/otf/
I always obtained:
Processing `/test/pattern.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [2]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [2]
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `pattern.ps'...
`cd /var/tmp/tmp.0.6SGnZN fondu -force '/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/2.7.27/fonts/otf//Verdana'' failed (32512)
error: failed files: /test/pattern.ly
The trick worked for e.g. VeraMono.
Now (?) I receive the same message also in case I use VeraMono in place of Verdana:
I mean: I receive:
`cd /var/tmp/tmp.0.6SGnZN fondu -force '/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/2.7.27/fonts/otf//Verdana'' failed (32512)
error: failed files: /test/pattern.ly
Does it depend on fonts.cache-1?
What am I missing?
Thanks a lot
-a-
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Re: Fonts in 2.7 (bug?)
Thanks Han-Wen, it seems it's ok. In any case, I am a bit confused. If a change the font-name in make-pango-font-tree it seems that sometimes it's successful, sometimes no. What does it depend on? Maybe the question is: What does it mean Any font can be used, as long as it is available to Pango/FontConfig. (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/Documentation/user/lilypond/Font- selection.html#Font-selection) Thanks -a- On 16 Jan 2006, at 22:25, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: andrea valle wrote: `cd /var/tmp/tmp.0.6SGnZN fondu -force '/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/2.7.27/ fonts/otf//Verdana'' failed (32512) error: failed files: /test/pattern.ly Does it depend on fonts.cache-1? What am I missing? there was a bug in the fondu install routine, so it didn't get shipped. Can you try 2.7.27-5 ? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tuplet collision
I forgot to say (maybe it's relevant) that I changed staff space and I
use percussion.
Here's a minimum excerpt:
\layout{
raggedright=##t
\context{ \Staff
\override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #6
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #1.5
}
}
\score{
\new Staff {
{\clef percussion \time 1/4 \times 4/7 {f'8. r16 d'8 f'16 } }
\\
{\clef percussion \time 1/4 \times 4/7 { e16 \ff e16 e16 b8 b16 b16 } }
}
\layout{}
}
Thanks
-a-
This is probably a bug. Can you please send a bug report?
(i.e., a minimal score that reproduces the problem, preferably using
\layout{raggedright=##t})
Thanks,
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\compressMusic: strange behaviour in example
Hi to all,
I was tweaking with the example about independent times here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/lilypond/Polymetric-
notation.html#Polymetric-notation
I was simply adding some measures of music. I cannot understand why 9/8
doesn't work.
Any ideas?
Her'es the code:
\version 2.6.4
\relative c' {
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
c4 c c | c c c | c c c |
}
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(9 . 8)
\compressMusic #'(2 . 3)
\repeat unfold 3 { c8[ c c] }
| c4. c4. c4. | c4. c4. c4. |
}
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(10 . 8)
\compressMusic #'(3 . 5) {
\repeat unfold 2 { c8[ c c] }
\repeat unfold 2 { c8[ c] }
| c4. c4. \times 2/3 { c8 c c } c4
| c4 c8[ c8] c4. c4 c8 |
}
}
}
Thanks
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Re: Percussion staves: news?
Mats, thanks a lot as usual. Your code is precious, but I suspected I could reach good results via superimposition of different staves. I'd like to have it in one unique staff for ease (so I can have one voice): this kind of spacing is very common for percussion in 20th century and I don't want Finale to be be more flexible than lily...:-). Han-Wen, could it be a sponsored feature? -a- On 2 Jan 2006, at 10:40, Mats Bengtsson wrote: As far as I can see, there is no easy solution. You could redefine the function used to print the StaffSymbol object. The default implementation, Staff_symbol::print is done in C++, but it should be possible to do it in Scheme as well. /Mats Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Percussion staves: news?
I'm sorry, I tried but I'm not able to find a solution by myself starting from PianoStaff. I do not understand how to put arbitrary staves insise a pianostaff. Could you please post an example to be hacked? -a- On 2 Jan 2006, at 17:23, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: andrea valle wrote: Certainly, but isn't it much easier to make new context with 1-line staves at fixed distances (see PianoStaff definition for inspiration)? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Percussion staves: news?
Hi list, sorry to bother you again. But: does anyone know about the question I posted (here following)? To summarize: I need a (unique) staff in this way: ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ Is it possible to create a single staff like this, with different interline spaces? A possible solution in Finale is to make some lines in staff invisible. Is this availlable in lily? Thanks -a- On 27 Dec 2005, at 12:15, andrea valle wrote: Hi to all, I searched thru docs and archives but I wasn't able to make my ideas clear. I'm writing for percussions, so I was taking a look at Varèse's Intégrales. Percussionist 2 has five percussions: three chinese blocks (h, m, l: 3 lines), castanets (1 line) and a cymbals (1 line). As a result, the staff is made up of three lines (with standard interline space) for chinese blocks, plus two other lines with greater interline space (as a standard for percussions without 5 lines staff), one for castanets and one for cymbals. i.e.: cymb. ___ cast. ___ chin. bl. h ___ chin. bl.m ___ chin. bl. l ___ Is is possible to create such a staff? Could anyone post an example? I only know how to set the number of lines (StaffSymbol #'line-count) and how to change Staff's interline space (for all lines: StaffSymbol #'staff-space). Thanks a lot -a- Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
percussion staves
Hi to all, I searched thru docs and archives but I wasn't able to make my ideas clear. I'm writing for percussions, so I was taking a look at Varèse's Intégrales. Percussionist 2 has five percussions: three chinese blocks (h, m, l: 3 lines), castanets (1 line) and a cymbals (1 line). As a result, the staff is made up of three lines (with standard interline space) for chinese blocks, plus two other lines with greater interline space (as a standard for percussions without 5 lines staff), one for castanets and one for cymbals. i.e.: cymb. ___ cast. ___ chin. bl. h ___ chin. bl.m ___ chin. bl. l ___ Is is possible to create such a staff? Could anyone post an example? I only know how to set the number of lines (StaffSymbol #'line-count) and how to change Staff's interline space (for all lines: StaffSymbol #'staff-space). Thanks a lot -a- Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Pythonization (was Re: Roadmap to lily code)
(Could be of some interest so I keep it on the list) I'm also not sure it's a good idea. If you want python, it would be better to start afresh with a python version of LilyPond, and move speed-critical things to C(++). Then, end-result will be more pythonic And in that case? Could you make a rough estimation? Is it feasible or is it (as a matter of facts) science fiction? I imagine that the end result will be slower than the current GUILE/Scheme combo. My coding time is precious than machine's working one:) -a- -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Roadmap to lily code
How much for a migration to python as a sponsored feature :-)? Best -a- On 7 Dec 2005, at 10:39, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Darius Blasband wrote: Interesting question though: if you had to do it again, would you still consider Scheme, or would you rather go for Python Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dynamics collision
Ok Mats,
I read it before writing to the list, but it would have help if the
manual provided an example.
I'd like to add a snippet on the topic to LSR, so I don't want to be
imprecise.
If I have:
\version 2.6.4
{
\once \override Score.DynamicLineSpanner #'padding = #1.5 a'4 \pp
\once \override Score.DynamicLineSpanner #'padding = #3.5 a'4 \mp
\once \override Score.DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'( 3.0 . 1.0 ) a'4
\mf
\once \override Score.DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'( -9.0 . 9.0 ) a'4
\f
}
what is the difference in using DynamicLineSpanner vs. DynamicText?
Thanks
-a-
On 20 Nov 2005, at 17:10, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Please read at the bottom of the section on Dynamics in the manual:
Vertical positioning of these symbols is handled by
DynamicLineSpanner.
This means that ... should be replaced by DynamicLineSpanner.
/Mats
Fairchild wrote:
Andrea -
Just tried DynamicText with padding -- seems not to work.
Tried \once \override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'( -9.0 . 9.0 )
e \sfz
-- it does.
- Bruce
Andrea -
Try DynamicText.
- Bruce
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Hi,
I know that this is in the manual but I'm getting a little crazy with
this minimal trouble.
I have to move dynamics mark.
I suppose I have to use something like that
\once \override ... #'padding = #1.5 \sfz
but I'm not able to determine what should substitute the ...
Could someone provide an example?
Thanks
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dynamics collision
Hi, I know that this is in the manual but I'm getting a little crazy with this minimal trouble. I have to move dynamics mark. I suppose I have to use something like that \once \override ... #'padding = #1.5 \sfz but I'm not able to determine what should substitute the ... Could someone provide an example? Thanks -a- Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [SPAM] Re: Getting started in OS X terminal
Fink put sw/bin at the head of your path, and all its packages in sw/bin. So you will have lily working but maybe other programs not working anymore... Better use lilypond.sh and the wonderful dmg. -a- On 13 Nov 2005, at 21:46, Thomas Evdokimoff wrote: you might try using the fink package it sets the paths and dependencies for you.. see http://fink.sourceforge.net/ Thomas Evdokimoff M.A., B.Mus. www3.telus.net/thomase/ Quoting Andrew Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've used a mac for a couple of years now. Until I found Lilypond, I'd never felt the need to dip into the Terminal. Now I'm keen to make use of some features of Lilypond which seem to be accessible only from the terminal, such as midi2ly. I'd really appreciate a little help in getting started. The readme says Put the lilypond.sh script somewhere in your path, eg. $ cp lilypond.sh /usr/local/bin/lilypond I have carried out this command, but I'm not sure if that is in my path. The following command and output make me wonder: $ echo $PATH /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple- darwin-current I've been reading Unix for Mac OS X Tiger to try and make sense of all this, but it is slow going. I'm not even sure what a path is yet! My thanks in advance for any help. I run Lilypond 2.7.11-1 on mac os 10.4.2, with macpython 2.3 installed (though it doesn't seem to open). Python version 2.3.5 runs in the terminal. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [SPAM] Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?
(I did exactly that job using ConTeXt as typesetting environment for my scores. We discussed of lily in the ConTeXt mailing list for a while. Here two half-finished works:www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/nodi-I.pdf www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/nodi-II.pdf score fragments by lily, graph and general typesetting by ConTeXt ) Best -a- On 2 Nov 2005, at 16:41, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Arthur Dyck wrote: I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based desktop publishing program. I have been playing with it and it has some interesting features. Basically, you define your page size with borders and then create text or image boxes for your input. You can import lilypond pdf images directly into your image box. You can then put transparent text boxes on top of your image allowing you to do anykind of markup anywhere. I wouldn't recommend it for a an ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some interesting possibilites. I am trying to learn how to use it and how to use Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so it's making for some long -- but fun -- days. I think Scribus has a python interface, so you could write a little plugin that takes .ly code, runs it through lily, and pasts back the resulting PDF files. That would actually be pretty neat... Sponsored feature, anyone? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Music fragments with Lilypond?
Of course, with Preview on Mac OSX one can crop pdf.
(Moreover, Preview is scriptable, but I've never used apple script)
-a-
On 28 Oct 2005, at 22:30, John Wiedenhoeft wrote:
I'm not sure this exists for mac as well, but on linux you could use
pdfcrop to cut the white areas away. I think there must be a source of
that program somewhere (it's command line based, pretty simple, but
pretty effective). Be sure you include
\header{
copyright =
tagline = }
in your file since otherwise pdfcrop will keep the space between the
music fragment and the bottom line.
Best regards,
John
P.S. There could be some spacing problems. I posted on that some days
ago, but unfortunately didn't get a reply...
Edwin Vane wrote:
Hi,
I've been playing with Lilypond since about yesterday so I'm pretty
new.
I need a few figures for my thesis and the pdf output of lilypond on
mac
os x is pretty nifty. Except I can't coax it into just giving me a pdf
of the music itself. I always get empty space as if it were trying to
fill the page. Is there any way to tell Lilypond to generate just the
music fragment and nothing else?
My current work around is to use lilypond-book on a test tex file.
Once
it generates the eps files, I manually turn them into pdf to include
in
my thesis. I was hoping for a better way.
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Re: output vector graphics
Hi I would think it's the idea of having svg vectorial, xml-based, format as a lily output. I don't know how it actually works. -a- On 25 Sep 2005, at 16:51, Mehmet Okonsar wrote: I don't know if it is a viable idea, or if it already exists.. It would be nice if Lily can output some vectorial image format (what format is widely recognized?) where many (some or all) notational elements were available to a vector image drawing program (i.e. Corel Draw) where one can turn the beautiful Lily output into some ugly and meaningless pseudo-musical score by dragging, resizing the elements and adding elements musical or not.. all done visually. Ugly and meaningless pseudo-musical-scores are (or more exactly were) fashionable for some composers, how far Lily can cope with that.. Maybe what I refer to is simply called *.ps (postscript) but I was unable to open the Lily ps files in Corel, similarly I wasn't able to open Lily made pdf's neither.. (in CorelDraw v11) Best Regards, Mehmet Okonsar, pianist-composer www.okonsar.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
grace notes dimensions
Hi to all, I need to have grace notes (in particular, acciaccature) as big as normal notes. Could someone tell me how to do this? What property have I to change? (An example would be the best) Thanks a lot for your kindness -a- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Pedal + dynamics collision
Hi to all,
after producing automatically some hundreds fragment of lily code with
very satisfying results simply using default setting (thanks for the
work, guys), I have this little problem.
In the following code, macosx 10.3.8, lily 2.5.29, Pedal sign collides
with dynamics.
% start
\version 2.5.29
{ f' a' ais' dis'' c''' cis''' 4 \sustainDown \mp}
% end
How can I solve? I took a look at the docs but I wasn't able to find a
solution (which I am sure is already there).
Thanks a lot
-a-
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Re: accord en français
(...Ehm, I'm sorry to be unpopular and I don't want to seem unkind...). I understand with no problem French and I like it very much even if I cannot speak it, but the language of the list is, helas!, English: http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Maybe other people cannot understand French and they are excluded from discussion. Best -a- On 24 Jun 2005, at 14:29, VSD wrote: utilisez \chordsFrench c'est au manual, section 7.2.3 Printing chord Names salut! Vincent On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:30:58 +0200, j-f.stephant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour, Je sais, maintenant, mette du texte en français, avec les lettres accentuées, mais je n'arrive pas à mettre les accords en français (au dessus de la portée : le chormode). Quelqu'un peut-il m'aider. Merci Jacques ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.5.28 png generation
On my macosx 10.3.8 lilyApp 2.5.28 had png conversion broken. But in 2.5.29 works perfectly, both from app and from command line. Also resolution setting is ok. The only thing that doesn't work as I was expecting is that, while using lilypond.sh from command line, the conversions from .ps put resulting files always in my user and not in the folder of the ly file. Example: I give the command line to eat: apples-Computer:~ apple$ lilypond.sh --png --define-default=resolution=300 --output=/Users/apple/Desktop/testScriptor/testScriptor1 /Users/apple/Desktop/testScriptor/testScriptor1.ly Lily replies: Layout output to `/Users/apple/Desktop/testScriptor/testScriptor1.ps'... Converting to `testScriptor1.pdf'... Converting to PNG... Traceback (most recent call last): File /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/script, line 167, in ? os.unlink (a + '.ps') OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'testScriptor1.ps' In LilyApp the output pdf is in the same folder of the input ly file. But it seems that conversion from lilypond.sh doesn't recognize the path. Ps file is under /Users/apple/Desktop/testScriptor/ and pdfs/pngs are under /Users/Apple (and so it fails to remove ps). Should I set something or is it a bug? Thanks a lot -a- On 9 Jun 2005, at 00:30, Roman V. Isaev wrote: Ugh.. tried to use this. Doesn't work. If I run lilypond --png it says Converting to PNG... into logfile and then does nothing. I know nothing about scheme... but when I insert (ly:message \nTEST\n) it prints this test... so I inserted it after Converting to PNG message: (ly:message (_ Converting to ~a...) PNG) (ly:message \nTEST\n) in backend-library.scm and got TEST in the log. Then I went into ps2png.scm and placed the same test here: (define-public (make-ps-images ps-name . rest) (ly:message \nTEST\n) (let-optional rest ((resolution 90) (paper-size a4) (rename-page-1? #f) (verbose? #f)) No TEST. It looks like (make-ps-images name resolution paper-size rename-page-1? verbose?) is the place where everyhing stops. Sorry, I don't know how to debug scheme... -- Roman V. Isaev http://www.soprano-recorder.ru Moscow, Russia ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
invoking lily from python
Dear all, I'm calling lily from inside IDLE of Python, using module os with function os.system. I post this as I know Python is largely used among lilyponders. The same command line (/sw/bin/lilypond /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly) from shell and from os.system gives two different results. From shell it works perfectly (obviously). (apples-Computer:~ apple$ /sw/bin/lilypond /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly) From os.system I have as output only the file test.tex, which is ok, but there are no other files. os.system ends with 0, which means all was ok. cmd=/sw/bin/lilypond /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly os.system(cmd) 0 Should I call explicitly the convert part to which lily refers printing on screen the following lines in command line mode? Converting to `test.dvi'... Converting to `test.ps'... Converting to `test.pdf'... It seems to me that this part is skipped when invoking from IDLE. Any hints? Thanks a lot -a- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: invoking lily from python
(It simply depended on invoking from IDLE. Some strange behaviours. Everything solved using python form command line. Thanks) -a- On 5 Jun 2005, at 11:42, andrea valle wrote: Dear all, I'm calling lily from inside IDLE of Python, using module os with function os.system. I post this as I know Python is largely used among lilyponders. The same command line (/sw/bin/lilypond /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly) from shell and from os.system gives two different results. From shell it works perfectly (obviously). (apples-Computer:~ apple$ /sw/bin/lilypond /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly) From os.system I have as output only the file test.tex, which is ok, but there are no other files. os.system ends with 0, which means all was ok. cmd=/sw/bin/lilypond /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly os.system(cmd) 0 Should I call explicitly the convert part to which lily refers printing on screen the following lines in command line mode? Converting to `test.dvi'... Converting to `test.ps'... Converting to `test.pdf'... It seems to me that this part is skipped when invoking from IDLE. Any hints? Thanks a lot -a- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Usage of new installer for Mac OS
Hi, I am not succeeding in using lilypond.app (2.5.26) from commanline (macosx 10.3.8). It's probably somenting obvious I don't know of command line usage. So please pardon me. I put the lilypond.sh in /sw/bin and then run the line apples-Computer:~ apple$ lilypond.sh /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly I obtain: -bash: /sw/bin/lilypond.sh: Permission denied What does it mean and what I have I to do in order to remove the problem? Thanks a lot best -a- On 3 Jun 2005, at 19:26, Walter Hofmeister wrote: The new installer for Mac OS is great and I have it working from the terminal just fine, but one question to the Brain Trust here, how does one use Lilypond-book or convert-ly, and all of the other goodies? I have installed the lilypond.sh script into sw/bin/ and when I want to run lilypond I type lilypond.sh somefile.ly and this seems to work fine, but I can't see a way to run the other features. What am I missing? Thanks. Walter Hofmeister ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Usage of new installer for Mac OS
Thanks, chmod worked (what does it mean?). If I run: lilypond.sh --png /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly I obtain ... Converting to `test.pdf'... Converting to PNG... `lilypond-ps2png --resolution=90 --papersize=a6 test.ps' failed (32256) error: failed files: /Users/apple/Desktop/test.ly LilyPond exited with status 1Traceback (most recent call last): File /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/script, line 108, in ? os.unlink (a + '.ps') OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '--png.ps' Asking for the help (lilypond.sh -h) I thought that png was possible Is it on the to do list or have I made a mistake? Thanks Best -a- On 4 Jun 2005, at 01:15, Graham Percival wrote: On 3-Jun-05, at 3:08 PM, andrea valle wrote: I obtain: -bash: /sw/bin/lilypond.sh: Permission denied You probably need to do chmod a+x /sw/bin/lilypond.sh If that doesn't work, then do ls -l /sw/bin/lilypond.sh and report the results. Cheers, - Graham Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: arbitrary papersize
Thanks, I was in fact seeing those pages of the manual. I was thinking
that Page layout was dedicated to layout inside a given page.
You have an a4 and you can do what you want *inside* it.
I want an arbitrary page: so, let's say, can I use a paper of
1.13x3.88 cm (so that I can use pixel to determine the dimension)?
In particular I supposed I had to precise on of the two possible
commands:
#(set-default-paper-size a4)
\paper {
#(set-paper-size a4)
}
Now, manual says:
The following paper sizes are supported: a6, a5, a4, a3, legal, letter,
tabloid.
So, how to tweak them?
Thanks a lot
-a-
On 4 Jun 2005, at 01:42, Graham Percival wrote:
On 2-Jun-05, at 4:09 PM, andrea valle wrote:
Hi to all and sorry if it's obvious, but I wasn't able to find an
answer in the docs .
Section 10.1.3, Page layout ? The section right after paper size?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Page-
layout.html
Options include
hsize
vsize
topmargin
linewidth
...
- Graham
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arbitrary papersize
Hi to all and sorry if it's obvious, but I wasn't able to find an answer in the docs . I'd like to make many image files with music fragments (to be inserted in a diagram realize with a latex package). I need pdfs, as I cannot use lily-book. Everything's ok if I can set an arbitrary papersize. Is it possible or have I always to choose from the supported formats (a3, a4, a5 etc)? (In positive case, please could you send an example?). Thanks a lot Best -a- Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond and Latex on Windows
Well, in order to avoid possible confusion, I'm not an expert at all. On MacOSX I'm not able to see the dvi too, but the output on ps is ok for me. I also used dvipdf instead of dvips to convert directly to pdf the dvi. I made only very simple tests, but it worked. But when I try to apply the same to my own files, several latex errors occur; e.g. play.sty not found or text line vontains an invalid character. Actually I discovered that I have two distributions of latex, one installed by the editor (TexShop) the other probably shipped with the OS. When I invoked via terminal the second was called, which is conisderably older and out of date than the other. I update class style by hand in this distro and solved the problem of having the class files. It could be so also with your editor. Best -a- So what happens when I use latex in the Cygwin bash instead of the latex button in winedit? Best wishes, Matthias ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond and Latex on Windows
- Pdflatex is not the right choice. You have to work with terminal, and I will say especially if you are not skilled tex/latex user and you know exactly what is going on while rendering tex file, like me. I use TexShop on MacOSX, but for lily I switch to terminal. So, if you follow *exactly* the instructions on the web page, it works. (Here you will see that in order to have a pdf first you have to create the dvi and then convert to pdf). -a- On 28 May 2005, at 00:08, Matthias Warkentin wrote: Hi! Can somebody explain me (and I do not understand much of Latex nor Lilypond - yet, hopefully), how I can integrate lilypond code in my tex-documents? I process lilypond files under WindowsXP just by doubleclicking and get beside others a tex-file. Now the naive approach of just including this in my tex-file and pdflatexing it was not successful; Latex complained about missing fonts (feta and parmesan - I have already tried copying those in the lilypond directory in my Miktex, but then it complained about already existing files). Also pdflatexing simple examples like lilbook.tex didn't work - Latex does not know a Lilpond environment. I'm sorry if I ask trivial questions, but I have tried to sort this out for some hours and think it's better to ask for help. I use Lilypond 2.4.3 and Miktex under WindowsXP. It would be great if someone could help me! Thanks, Matthias ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
My feeling is that Lilypond is different that GB, and concerning the notation, it is superior in many ways (I'm not sure though, can anyone send a PDF sample to me?). If anything, it should be as expensive. As a mac user, two cents: 1) GB is also an audio/midi editor. So, it can be compared only very roughly with lily. 2) If it only depends on its effective value, lily should cost very much and surely much more than GB, which should be freeware for me (with 0 downloads)... . Maybe the idea was not to have lily mac app free, but that it costs the minimum. This can be an effective argument in order to make lily widespread. ciao -a- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: notation for pitch bends and drops
Han-Wen thanks for your work. Let me understand the point. I understand from personal experience that starving can be not that fun. If some of us collect money, then you will be able to eat, and so to implement that features. Then they will become free distribution in lily? Maybe, if lily requires you full time, it's better to think about a (small?) payment in order to use it, or not? Just to know your opinion -a- On 9 Feb 2005, at 09:53, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All this will be done on the 2.5 branch. If you want a backport to 2.4, that would cost an additional EUR 20 (USD 25). 2.6 will be released in one to two months, hopefully. Of course, you're welcome to garner some fellow sponsor to keep the cost per person down. Greetings, Han-Wen Gee, I don't know... that seems a bit steep. I'm only a student, and so my finances are not unlimited... note I can get Finale academic edition for $300, Sibelius academic edition for $215. [to the list as well.. ] Hi, I can understand that you think it is exorbitant, but you maybe you can take a look from my perspective. I'd really want Lilypond to be the standard for music notation, and over the past 8 years I've but more or less 4 full-time unpaid man-years into this project to make it so. It's been tremendous fun, but since I started a real job, I ceased to have a social life. For that reason, I've just quit that job, hoping to make a (small) living off LilyPond. BTW, if anyone wants to pool together money for a feature, I'd consider not shuffling around the money on paypal, since every time that happens, Paypal takes out another cut. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: installing on fc2 (again)
Thanks Mats, here you have it. Best -a- _ For your security, this mail has been scanned and protected by Inflex test.ly Description: Binary data On 13 Dec 2004, at 16:57, Mats Bengtsson wrote: What input file did you use? If you took it from the web page, make sure that it's written for the version of LilyPond that you use and also that your web browser didn't add any strange characters to it. /Mats andrea valle wrote: Sorry to bother you again. Please is there anyone working on ccrma fc2 distribution? We simply cannot make it work. We reinstalled the rpms, we installed ec-fonts, we installed also imageMagick rpms (for all version). Everything from the ccrma site. Always the same: lily starts parsing, but provides no outputs. Verbose is the same we have already sent to the list. Thanks a lot -a- Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ For your security, this mail has been scanned and protected by Inflex ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-use r -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
installing on fc2 (again)
Sorry to bother you again. Please is there anyone working on ccrma fc2 distribution? We simply cannot make it work. We reinstalled the rpms, we installed ec-fonts, we installed also imageMagick rpms (for all version). Everything from the ccrma site. Always the same: lily starts parsing, but provides no outputs. Verbose is the same we have already sent to the list. Thanks a lot -a- Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ For your security, this mail has been scanned and protected by Inflex ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Installing on macosx 10.3
Hi to all, we followed installing procedure for lily 2.4.2 on MacOsx 10.3 (via fink). We installed fink, make selfupdate, then, with fink install lilypond -unstable, fink downloaded lily and other packages and compiled them all with no errors. But, as result, there's no executable. We only find files .info and .patch. ? Any help is much appreciated best -a- _ For your security, this mail has been scanned and protected by Inflex ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
installing on fedora core 2
(...here we are again). We are trying to install lily on fedora core2. We installed: rpm -i ec-fonts-mftraced-1.0.8-1.noarch.rpm and then rpm -i lilypond-2.4.1-1.rhfc2.ccrma-i386.rpm (these two commands have been given in super user mode). Lilypond is correctly installed (we see: lilypond produces beautiful musical notation). Then terminal says: Parsing... and stop: Terminal doesn't write test.dvi, etc...and we cannot see any output pdf at all. Are we missing something? Thanks -a- Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ For your security, this mail has been scanned and protected by Inflex ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
installing on fedora core 2
(...here we are again). We are trying to install on fedora core2. We installed: rpm -i ec-fonts-mftraced-1.0.8-1.noarch.rpm and then rpm -i lilypond-2.4.1-1.rhfc2.ccrma-i386.rpm these two commands in super user mode. Lilypond correctly installed (we see: lilypond produces bautiful musical notation). Then terminal says: Parsing... and stop: Terminal doesn't write test.dvi, etc...and we cannot see any output pdf at all. -a- Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: installing on fedora core 2
Thanks as usual Mats. Here in attachment the verbose output. -a- _ For your security, this mail has been scanned and protected by Inflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lilypond -V test debug.txt GNU LilyPond 2.4.1 LILYPOND_DATADIR=/usr/share/lilypond LOCAL_LILYPOND_DATADIR=/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1 LOCALEDIR=/usr/share/locale LILYPONDPREFIX= [/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/define-music-types.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/output-lib.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/c++.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/chord-entry.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/chord-generic-names.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/stencil.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/new-markup.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/bass-figure.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/music-functions.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/part-combiner.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/define-music-properties.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/auto-beam.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/chord-name.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/ly-from-scheme.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/define-context-properties.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/translation-functions.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/script.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/midi.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/beam.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/clef.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/slur.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/font.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/encoding.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/fret-diagrams.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/define-markup-commands.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/define-grob-properties.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/define-grobs.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/define-grob-interfaces.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/page-layout.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/titling.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/paper.scm][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/scm/safe-lily.scm]Processing `test.ly' Parsing... [/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/init.ly[/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/declarations-init.ly[/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/music-functions-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/nederlands.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/drumpitch-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/chord-modifiers-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/script-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/scale-definitions-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/grace-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/midi-init.ly[/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/performer-init.ly]][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/paper-defaults.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/engraver-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/dynamic-scripts-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/spanners-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.1/ly/[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# On 10 Dec 2004, at 17:34, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Hard to say from this information. Try to run lilypond with the flag --verbose and see what it complains about. /Mats andrea valle wrote: (...here we are again). We are trying to install lily on fedora core2. We installed: rpm -i ec-fonts-mftraced-1.0.8-1.noarch.rpm and then rpm -i lilypond-2.4.1-1.rhfc2.ccrma-i386.rpm (these two commands have been given in super user mode). Lilypond is correctly installed (we see: lilypond produces beautiful musical notation). Then terminal says: Parsing... and stop: Terminal doesn't write test.dvi, etc...and we cannot see any output pdf at all. Are we missing something? Thanks -a- Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ For your security, this mail has been scanned and protected by Inflex ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-use r -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: troubles on installation on fc2 and macosx 10.3
Thanks a lot Mats and sorry for the delay. Since the syntax has changed a bit between the two versions, you cannot use the same version of test.ly. Ok. That's true: I wrongly assumed test.ly was so simple to be common to all versions. Always read the documentation corresponding to the version you use (and please always tell what version of the program you have, when asking questions on the mailing list). I would be very surprised if your own Python programs don't work equally well. Without knowing anything about Mac, I guess the solution is Fink. I'm out of Lab so I could not check what happened to mac and fedora. Anyway, Apple on OSX installs a Python framework which is notoriously delicate (at least following what is said on macpython page), so I was asking myself if Fink installs an autonomous Python package and if consequently there are drawbacks. Best -a- Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
troubles on installation on fc2 and macosx 10.3
Hi to all, first post, so pardon me if I'm asking obvious thing. Searched the archives but wasn't able to find an answer. Here in Turin we are making some installation tests. On win2k all right: a beautiful pdf score from test.ly. On fedora core 2, very fast installation, everything seems ok also while parsing the test.ly, no errors at all, but: we have no output file. We also changed some flags but: no way. Any hints? We also tested on mac osx 10.3 (which would be my preferite choice). I cannot tell you the results because after two hours and a half of hard work of cpu (fink etc) we have to close the office leaving g5 working. On monday morning we will check... But: is it the standard behaviour? I see that at least on mac lily installs python: what does this mean? Python framework is a nightmare on mac, and my system for algo composition works on python. So I'd like to have it works. Could anyone tell me something about it? Thanks a lot for your kindness Best -a- Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: who uses lilypond
(if I succeed in installing on macosx, and probably also in negative case, I want to substitute Finale and generate directly my algorithmic composition with Lily) Best -a- On 5 Dec 2004, at 19:06, Erik Sandberg wrote: 4 main uses for me: - typesetting old scores (mostly 18th c.) to make them free via Mutopia. - Quick transcription of parts, for personal use (like alto - G_8 clef) - Writing down some original music on paper (so far, it has mostly been songs from a Jewish folk music band I'm playing in) - Amusement (in the form of finding/entering/managing Lilypond bug reports) Erik On Wednesday 01 December 2004 11.38, Aaron wrote: I was having a discussion with a friend and he asked me. Who uses lilypond? composers publishers music copyists students other I wasn't sure I think that publishers probably already have legacy apps they use not lilypond. but I am not sure how this falls in numbers for the other categories. does anyone mind a informal survey? what do you use lilypond for. Aaron ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
frontends
Dear all, I'd like to use Lilypond for algorithmic composition. The task could be to develop a program (maybe in Python) to write the lilypond file. But in instrumental composition there's always the necessity to re-adjust the result of the algorithmic process in order to have it (more) playable. Is there a GUI frontend for lily for post-processing? (Or, which would be the same: does lily export in finale .mus extension?) Is there anyone doing algo-comp in this way on the list? thanks and best -a- ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
