Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets
Hi AndrewBy making it only a *little* more fiddly and tedious I can get pretty close.I feel your pain...Damian\version "2.19.83"\header { tagline = "" }{ \time 1/8 \clef bass \override Score.TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t << { \once \omit TupletNumber \once \omit TupletBracket \tuplet 5/4 { s16. \once \override TupletBracket.positions = #'(6 . 6) \tuplet 5/4 { \stemDown \once \override Beam.positions = #'(-5 . -5) c'32[ gis32_> ais32 cis'32 dis'32] } s16. } } \\ { \set TupletBracket.tupletFullLength = ##t \override TupletBracket.positions = #'(-9 . -9) \override TupletNumber.text = #(tuplet-number::append-note-wrapper tuplet-number::calc-denominator-text "8") \tuplet 5/4 8 { fis32[ gis,-\parenthesize_> d c'!16] \once \override Rest.extra-offset = #'(4 . -5) r16 b16[^> b32] } } >>}On 22 September 2019 at 10:20, Andrew Bernard wrote:Hello Damian,Thanks for your effort. But look here:\version "2.19.83"{ \override Score.TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t << { \time 1/8 % \once \omit TupletNumber \tuplet 5/4 { s32 s s \tuplet 5/4 { \stemDown g'32[ 32 32 32 32] } s s s } } \\ { \tuplet 5/4 8 { g'32[ 32 32 16] d16\rest 16[ 32] } } >>}The tuplet brackets are not all all what I need - refer to the image. Sure, I could mess with the bracket extensions and so on. But this solution, although clever, is tedious and fiddly (no disrespect intended) and I have dozens of these to engrave, so it's not very fluent.At this stage I would be prepared to say this is not possible in lilypond (and I am more convinced it's far too idiosyncratic even as far as modernist music goes).Andrew___lilypond-user mailing listlilypond-user@gnu.orghttps://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets
The rhythm itself is easy to play in isolation but it looks from this snippet as if it would be very difficult to judge the speed so as to coordinate with the other players. Damian On 22 September 2019 at 15:41, Michael Gerdau wrote: 10 quintuplet 32nds are grouped 3, 5:4, 3 Aha...I see. This triggers the next curiosity question: Are conductors or human musicians supposed to count that out or is that purely for machine reproduction? Again I’m only curious. Kind regards, Michael___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets
Hi Michael 10 quintuplet 32nds are grouped 3, 5:4, 3 Damian On 22 September 2019 at 11:56, Michael Gerdau wrote: Hi Andrew, I‘m not convinced I understand the intended meaning of the picture you posted. The meaning I do think is intended in turn would be a trivial tautology, just like when you have a stream of tuplet 3/2 8th you could group any 3 notes along the stream without additional information. Could you explain the meaning of the additional tuplet bracket? Just curious, Michael Mobil gesendet Am 22.09.2019 um 01:21 schrieb Andrew Bernard : I have come to an impasse in a score I am setting. Is it even remotely possible to have a tuplet nested _across_ two tuplets with lilypond? See attached image. [Don't blame me for the musical aspect of this - it's not my music!] Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets
Hi AndrewThis gets you the rhythm\version "2.19.83"{ << { \time 1/8 \once \omit TupletNumber \tuplet 5/4 { s32 s s \tuplet 5/4 { \stemDown g'32[ 32 32 32 32] } s s s } } \\ { \tuplet 5/4 8 { g'32[ 32 32 16] d16\rest 16[ 32] } } >>}On 22 September 2019 at 0:22, Andrew Bernard wrote:I have come to an impasse in a score I am setting. Is it even remotely possible to have a tuplet nested _across_ two tuplets with lilypond? See attached image.[Don't blame me for the musical aspect of this - it's not my music!]Andrew___lilypond-user mailing listlilypond-user@gnu.orghttps://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user___
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