Removing bundled LilyPond
I'd like to remove LilyPond 2.10.33, which came bundled with Ubuntu Studio 8.04 and then install 2.11.59. I ran the install shell script and 2.11.59 installed in my home directory fine. However, when I go to use it, the 'lilypond' command still invokes version 2.10.33. I started to remove the old version through synaptic, but it also tries to remove other packages that I want to keep like rosegarden and some others that I think I shouldn't remove. This appears to present me 3 options: 1) Install 2.11.59 via shell script and alter my system so that the command 'lilypond' points to the new installation in my home directory. 2) Uninstall the packages lilypond, rosegarden, ubuntu-studio audio and the others it synaptic says I have to remove if I remove LilyPond so that I may install and use 2.11.59. 3) Continue to use version 2.10.33. The first option seems workable, if there's a way to do it. The latter two options are really not viable, since I may want to use Rosegarden in the future and I would like to take advantage of the newer version of LilyPond. Are there other options that I'm missing? Is there a more correct way to go about this? Also, someone on the Ubuntu Studio user list mentioned making a .deb package for LilyPond that would presumably solve this problem. I've also asked about that in the past on this forum. It would be convenient if one could install LilyPond through a package manager like a lot of other Debian/Ubuntu applications. If I have the time (and I think I do), I would be willing to learn to do this work myself, provided it's within my limited (but hopefully expaning) scope. I would probably only commit to making a package for stable releases though. Does anyone else think this is a good idea? Thanks, Dave - David Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thenotesetter.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Removing-bundled-LilyPond-tp19648466p19648466.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\shiftOn doesen't behave as expected
I'm typing some guitar music with version 2.10.33 to teach myself how to use LilyPond. I'm using the command \shiftOn to move inner voices so that they are clear and not colliding with other voices. I'm also typing the upper voice and lower voice separately, in hopes to avoid extra typing and overly complex use of syntax. My problem is, sometimes \shiftOn moves the inner voice to the left, and sometimes to the right. See the attached .ly file: In the first bar, using \shiftOn on the downstem C in the upper voice causes both the upstem portion of voice one, and the downstem lower voice to shift to the right. In the second bar, using \shiftOn only on the lower voice moves it to the left (instead of the right like I would expect) and leaves all of the upper voice unchanged (also what I'd expect). In the third bar, using \shiftOn on the upstem E on the upper voice also moves the lower voice to the left. What I want, is for the lower voice to move slightly to the right, while both directions of the upper voice keep the default horizontal alignment. In the second line, \shiftOn does what I want it to, and avoids note column collisions between voices. What's the difference? Thanks, Dave http://www.nabble.com/file/p18992493/snippet1.ly snippet1.ly - David Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thenotesetter.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/%5CshiftOn-doesen%27t-behave-as-expected-tp18992493p18992493.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
ubuntu package
Is there an Ubuntu package for LilyPond? Suppose I'm using LilyPond 2.10.33 and want to upgrade to the latest (development) branch. Is there a software source I can type in and then have the latest version downloaded and installed via synaptic? Thanks, Dave - David Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thenotesetter.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ubuntu-package-tp18662756p18662756.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: notation and tablature (+bend, slide etc.)
I'd like to second rosea's sentiment about tablature. I'm just learning LilyPond and would like to help the programmers improve LilyPond's support for fretted instrument tablature, including support for bends, slides, ligado and the various other instrument specific notations. I've been a professional guitar transcriber and music engraver for about 8 years and I currently work with 2 of the largest publishers on their guitar/TAB publications on a freelance basis. As of right now, I am prepared to help in a consulting capacity for improvements in these areas (I have no background in programming). In the future, I may be able to sponsor new features (especially in conjunction with other sponsors) that will improve LilyPond's capacity to write fretted instrument tablature. If there's anyone working on improving these features currently, please let me know if you have questions about shapes/exact placement/etc. The Tab Legend posted by Rosea is a bit outdated. Although most of the symbols in current usage are similar to those on the legend, I feel their placement in the score needs to be updated. Caveat: I tend to work slowly, so for me, this would be a long-term commitment and I wouldn't expect results to be immediate. Please let me know if there's anything I can do (consulting on appearance/placement of symbols, testing new features, etc.) Thanks to the developers and everyone who posts helpful information to this list. Of all the notation tools I have used or tried, LilyPond is the most dynamic and exciting. Best regards, David Stocker rosea wrote: Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 30. Juni 2008 schrieb rosea: I was wondering if Lilypond also supports tablature features for guitar like: slides, hammer on, pull off, bend etc. It supports bend. About the others, I'm not sure. When I wrote musicxml2ly, I was looking for them, but then I don't know how they should look in the score, anyway. Maybe you can give some examples for them? Cheers, Reinhold Hi all, I've made a scan of the notation-tablature-legend from the book 'Eric Clapton - Unplugged', (which is one of the best selling guitar books I think). I made a *.png and a *.pdf you can download here: http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/lib/exe/fetch.php?id=manuals_tutorials_and_howto_scache=cachemedia=notation_tablature_legend_clapton.pdf http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1259/notationtablatureclaptolc8.png I didn't find options for bends, pull off, slide, hammer on etc. for Lilypond and I think there are a lot of guitarists, bass players and more, who would love to see a better tablature support for Lilypond. Especially now with the export function in TuxGuitar to Lilypond. I'm looking forward for reactions and I hope some smart guys can make this happen for Lilypond. If I can give support or if you need more information about tablature and notation, you can always ask! Thanks in advance, Roooz ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - David Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thenotesetter.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/tablature-tp18190814p18237997.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Flamenco/Rasgueado and Lilypond
Hello everyone, Hi all. I did a Google and an Archives search on how to notate rasgueado with lilypond, and the instructions there said to use an arpeggio. For rasgueado indications, typically an arpeggio line is used with an arrowhead at the top or bottom to indicate the direction of the strum--up arrowhead to indicate down strum (lowest sounding string to highest sounding) or down arrow to indicate an up strum. Often, the right hand finger to use is indicated in conjunction with the rasgueado symbol--the standard p i m a symbols for the right hand fingers with the addition of x for the pinky finger. Sometimes, simply the abbreviation Rasg. in italics is placed underneath the chord, leaving it to the performer to decide the manner of execution. This is the notation used in Spanish and English books that I have seen. Italian, German or other language editions may be different (naturally). I've since discovered on Wikipedia that the up bow/down bow notation used for violins can be used for up strokes/down strokes for plucked string instruments. The up bow and down bow symbols are usually used only for plucked stringed instruments played with a plectrum. This is mostly restricted to popular music-chiefly method books. As I'm brand new to lilypond (and thus far, really enjoying it), I don't know how to tell lilypond to put arrowheads on arpeggio lines for rasgueado notation. Anyone? Hope this is helpful, Timothy--and anyone else whose mind this question may have been burning in. David Stocker http://www.thenotesetter.com www.thenotesetter.com PS--I also replied by email, but am not sure whether my reply was posted to the entire group. Sorry if you've received this message twice. - David Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thenotesetter.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Flamenco-Rasgueado-and-Lilypond-tp15818906p15820440.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: music notation
Later versions of Finale export to musicXML. Check to see if this is supported by a newer version of notepad. If not, you may need to have help from someone working with a full version of Finale. Good luck, Dave Graham Percival-2 wrote: The lilypond-user mailist can answer this in more detail than the bug list, so I have CC'd them. The short answer is that non-programmers can use lilypond without problems, but I do not believe that finale files can be imported to lilypond. The best route is probably musicXML, but I'm not certain if finale can create musicxml files. Cheers, - Graham Steve Sedberry wrote: I've been using Finale Notepad, 2000 version, for the past six years or so and am interested in moving from Windows 98 to an open source operating system. I am interested in using Lilypond and am hoping to import my finale notepad files into the Lilypond program for further editing and printing. Two questions: Since I am not a programmer and cannot fix bugs should I resist the urge to try Lilypond? Can finale notepad files be easily imported into Lilypad? Thank you for your help. Steve Sedberry on the border of Alabama/Georgia, USA ___ bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-music-notation-tf4725371.html#a13517719 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Professional LilyPond users?
I'm just wondering (out of simple curiosity) if there are individuals in this forum or elsewhere who are using LilyPond to engrave commercial projects. I'm new to LilyPond but thus far I like what I see. I have entertained the thought of offering LilyPond engraving as a service (after I become much more proficient with it) sometime in the future and wonder if there is anyone currently using this wonderful software in a commercial capacity. Thanks, Dave -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Professional-LilyPond-users--tf4728783.html#a13521352 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
