Fw: \score vs. \new Score with \midi
- Forwarded Message From: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 March, 2007 7:35:26 AM Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi The situation where I have needed to explicitly define the Score context is to remove engravers (time signature and bar number in this case.) I would suggest adding something under 10.3.1 (Creating MIDI Files) in the 2.10 manual, maybe under the Bugs section. - Original Message From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, 7 March, 2007 10:48:42 AM Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi Since you probably have read the documentation much more carefully than I have, could you please provide more specific hints on where to best put this information? /Mats Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: Would it be possible to add this to the documentation (which I checked thoroughly ) for Rookie users such as myself who think they know how things work and sometimes get it wrong? I guess under the sections relating to Score and MIDI. Thanks, Vivian. - Original Message From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, 7 March, 2007 10:05:37 AM Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi As you have noticed, they are not equivalent from a syntactical point of view. From different email discussions, I have got the impression that the main hackers had some ideas on how to revise the syntax related to \book and \score blocks, but I don't know if there are any concrete plans. Actually, you write \score{ \new Score{ ... } \midi{...} } if you really need to explicitly specify the Score context (I don't see why that would be needed, though). /Mats Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a \midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be identical. Why does this happen, and could it be changed? Compare: BEGIN CODE (FAILS) \new Score { c1 \midi { } } % BEGIN CODE (WORKS) \score { c1 \midi { } } Cheers, Vivian. New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/championships/games/*http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk/. Plus: play games and win prizes. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe http://www.s3.kth.se/%7Emabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/championships/games/*http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk/. Plus: play games and win prizes. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com
Re: Fw: \score vs. \new Score with \midi
Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: The situation where I have needed to explicitly define the Score context is to remove engravers (time signature and bar number in this case.) I would suggest adding something under 10.3.1 (Creating MIDI Files) in the 2.10 manual, maybe under the Bugs section. Vivian, please send exact changes; see http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding I guarantee that nothing will be done unless somebody sends in an exact proposal. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\score vs. \new Score with \midi
I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a \midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be identical. Why does this happen, and could it be changed? Compare: BEGIN CODE (FAILS) \new Score { c1 \midi { } } % BEGIN CODE (WORKS) \score { c1 \midi { } } Cheers, Vivian. ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi
As you have noticed, they are not equivalent from a syntactical point of view. From different email discussions, I have got the impression that the main hackers had some ideas on how to revise the syntax related to \book and \score blocks, but I don't know if there are any concrete plans. Actually, you write \score{ \new Score{ ... } \midi{...} } if you really need to explicitly specify the Score context (I don't see why that would be needed, though). /Mats Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a \midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be identical. Why does this happen, and could it be changed? Compare: BEGIN CODE (FAILS) \new Score { c1 \midi { } } % BEGIN CODE (WORKS) \score { c1 \midi { } } Cheers, Vivian. New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/championships/games/*http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk/. Plus: play games and win prizes. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi
Would it be possible to add this to the documentation (which I checked thoroughly ) for Rookie users such as myself who think they know how things work and sometimes get it wrong? I guess under the sections relating to Score and MIDI. Thanks, Vivian. - Original Message From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, 7 March, 2007 10:05:37 AM Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi As you have noticed, they are not equivalent from a syntactical point of view. From different email discussions, I have got the impression that the main hackers had some ideas on how to revise the syntax related to \book and \score blocks, but I don't know if there are any concrete plans. Actually, you write \score{ \new Score{ ... } \midi{...} } if you really need to explicitly specify the Score context (I don't see why that would be needed, though). /Mats Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a \midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be identical. Why does this happen, and could it be changed? Compare: BEGIN CODE (FAILS) \new Score { c1 \midi { } } % BEGIN CODE (WORKS) \score { c1 \midi { } } Cheers, Vivian. New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/championships/games/*http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk/. Plus: play games and win prizes. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi
Since you probably have read the documentation much more carefully than I have, could you please provide more specific hints on where to best put this information? /Mats Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: Would it be possible to add this to the documentation (which I checked thoroughly ) for Rookie users such as myself who think they know how things work and sometimes get it wrong? I guess under the sections relating to Score and MIDI. Thanks, Vivian. - Original Message From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, 7 March, 2007 10:05:37 AM Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi As you have noticed, they are not equivalent from a syntactical point of view. From different email discussions, I have got the impression that the main hackers had some ideas on how to revise the syntax related to \book and \score blocks, but I don't know if there are any concrete plans. Actually, you write \score{ \new Score{ ... } \midi{...} } if you really need to explicitly specify the Score context (I don't see why that would be needed, though). /Mats Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a \midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be identical. Why does this happen, and could it be changed? Compare: BEGIN CODE (FAILS) \new Score { c1 \midi { } } % BEGIN CODE (WORKS) \score { c1 \midi { } } Cheers, Vivian. New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/championships/games/*http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk/. Plus: play games and win prizes. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe http://www.s3.kth.se/%7Emabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/championships/games/*http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk/. Plus: play games and win prizes. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user