Fw: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

2007-03-08 Thread Vivian Barty-Taylor


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From: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 9 March, 2007 7:35:26 AM
Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

The situation where I have needed to explicitly define the Score context is to 
remove engravers (time signature and bar number in this case.)

I would suggest adding something under 10.3.1 (Creating MIDI Files) in the 2.10 
manual, maybe under the Bugs section.

- Original Message 
From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, 7 March, 2007 10:48:42 AM
Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

Since you probably have read the documentation much more carefully than
I have, could you please provide
 more specific hints on where to best 
put this
information?

   /Mats

Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
 Would it be possible to add this to the documentation (which I checked 
 thoroughly ) for Rookie users such as myself who think they know how 
 things work and sometimes get it wrong? I guess under the sections 
 relating to Score and MIDI.
 Thanks,
 Vivian.

 - Original Message 
 From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 7 March, 2007 10:05:37 AM
 Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

 As you have noticed, they are not equivalent from a syntactical point of
 view.
 From different email discussions, I have got the impression that the main
 hackers had some ideas on how to revise the syntax
 related to \book and
 \score
 blocks, but I don't know if there are any concrete plans.

 Actually, you write
 \score{
   \new Score{
 ...
   }
   \midi{...}
 }
 if you really need to explicitly specify the Score context (I don't see
 why that
 would be needed, though).

/Mats


 Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
  I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX
 
  I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a
  \midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from
  processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score
  then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be
  identical.
  Why does this happen, and could it be changed?

 
  Compare:
 
   BEGIN CODE (FAILS)
 
  \new Score {
 
  c1
 
  \midi { }
  }
 
 
  % BEGIN CODE (WORKS)
 
  \score {
 
  c1
 
  \midi { }
 
  }
 
  Cheers,
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Re: Fw: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

2007-03-08 Thread Graham Percival

Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:


The situation where I have needed to explicitly define the Score
 context is to remove engravers (time signature and bar number in this 
 case.)


I would suggest adding something under 10.3.1 (Creating MIDI Files)
in  the 2.10 manual, maybe under the Bugs section.



Vivian, please send exact changes; see
http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding

I guarantee that nothing will be done unless somebody sends in an exact 
proposal.


Cheers,
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\score vs. \new Score with \midi

2007-03-07 Thread Vivian Barty-Taylor
I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX

I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a \midi 
block was causing an error message and stopping the file from processing. It 
turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score then the file fails. 
These two commands should theoretically be identical. 
Why does this happen, and could it be changed?

Compare:

 BEGIN CODE (FAILS)

\new Score {

c1

\midi { }
}


% BEGIN CODE (WORKS)

\score {

c1

\midi { }

}

Cheers,
Vivian.





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Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

2007-03-07 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As you have noticed, they are not equivalent from a syntactical point of 
view.

From different email discussions, I have got the impression that the main
hackers had some ideas on how to revise the syntax related to \book and 
\score

blocks, but I don't know if there are any concrete plans.

Actually, you write
\score{
 \new Score{
   ...
 }
 \midi{...}
}
if you really need to explicitly specify the Score context (I don't see 
why that

would be needed, though).

  /Mats


Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:

I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX

I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a 
\midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from 
processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score 
then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be 
identical.

Why does this happen, and could it be changed?

Compare:

 BEGIN CODE (FAILS)

\new Score {

c1

\midi { }
}


% BEGIN CODE (WORKS)

\score {

c1

\midi { }

}

Cheers,
Vivian.


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Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

2007-03-07 Thread Vivian Barty-Taylor
Would it be possible to add this to the documentation (which I checked 
thoroughly ) for Rookie users such as myself who think they know how things 
work and sometimes get it wrong? I guess under the sections relating to Score 
and MIDI.
Thanks,
Vivian.

- Original Message 
From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, 7 March, 2007 10:05:37 AM
Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

As you have noticed, they are not equivalent from a syntactical point of 
view.
 From different email discussions, I have got the impression that the main
hackers had some ideas on how to revise the syntax related to \book and 
\score
blocks, but I don't know if there are any concrete plans.

Actually, you write
\score{
  \new Score{
...
  }
  \midi{...}
}
if you really need to explicitly specify the Score context (I don't see 
why that
would be needed, though).

   /Mats


Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
 I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX

 I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a 
 \midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from 
 processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score 
 then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be 
 identical.
 Why does this happen, and could it be changed?

 Compare:

  BEGIN CODE (FAILS)

 \new Score {

 c1

 \midi { }
 }


 % BEGIN CODE (WORKS)

 \score {

 c1

 \midi { }

 }

 Cheers,
 Vivian.

 
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Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

2007-03-07 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Since you probably have read the documentation much more carefully than
I have, could you please provide more specific hints on where to best 
put this

information?

  /Mats

Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
Would it be possible to add this to the documentation (which I checked 
thoroughly ) for Rookie users such as myself who think they know how 
things work and sometimes get it wrong? I guess under the sections 
relating to Score and MIDI.

Thanks,
Vivian.

- Original Message 
From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vivian Barty-Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, 7 March, 2007 10:05:37 AM
Subject: Re: \score vs. \new Score with \midi

As you have noticed, they are not equivalent from a syntactical point of
view.
From different email discussions, I have got the impression that the main
hackers had some ideas on how to revise the syntax related to \book and
\score
blocks, but I don't know if there are any concrete plans.

Actually, you write
\score{
  \new Score{
...
  }
  \midi{...}
}
if you really need to explicitly specify the Score context (I don't see
why that
would be needed, though).

   /Mats


Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
 I'm using 2.10.19 for Mac OSX

 I've just had an irritating couple of hours trying to find out why a
 \midi block was causing an error message and stopping the file from
 processing. It turns out that if you use \new Score instead of \score
 then the file fails. These two commands should theoretically be
 identical.
 Why does this happen, and could it be changed?

 Compare:

  BEGIN CODE (FAILS)

 \new Score {

 c1

 \midi { }
 }


 % BEGIN CODE (WORKS)

 \score {

 c1

 \midi { }

 }

 Cheers,
 Vivian.

 
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