Re: \skip in lyricmode

2005-01-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please read about melismata at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/The-Lyrics-context.html#The-Lyrics-context
Of course, in this particular example, using \lyricsto is much more
troublesome than using explicit durations of each syllable of the
lyrics (and remove the \lyricsto), but when you have longer sections
of lyrics, it's mostly a big saving to use \lyricsto.
Some more comments:
- Did you see 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-01/msg00038.html
  you might find some useful ideas. Also,there have been several
  recent discussions on lyrics on the mailing list.
- Why do you have several <<{...} \\ {...}>> directly following
  eachother? Why not just write each voice separately and then
  combining them with a single <<{...} \\ {...}>> or even better
  to explicitly give more descriptive names to the two voices.
- If you read the section in the manual, refered above, you'll
  notice that you can replace all your \skip 8 with a single one,
  if you insert \melisma and \melismaEnd at the appropriate places
  in the music.

   /Mats
Charles Gran wrote:
So--if I understand this correctly--the number after \skip is still 
required in \lyricsto but doesn't do anything.

Realted to this, I have an introduction to a song that has a pickup text 
(discussed in an earlier post).  The text useed to appear on the and of 
four in m.3.  I added phrase marks and staccati to the introduction and 
now the text won't appear.  Using \skip, there is a point where the text 
disappears.

I am using 2.4.2 under cygwin:
\version "2.4.2"
#(set-default-paper-size "letter")
%#(set-global-staff-size 25)
\header {
title = "Casting Spells"
poet = "C J Ver Burg"
composer = "Charles Gran"
tagline = ""
}
melody = {
\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f
\clef treble
\key f \minor
\time 2/2
%\tempo 2=60
<< { 8-. -. < f' g' >4 8-. -. < f' 
g' >4 } \\ { c'4( b8) f->( c'4) b8 f->( } >>
<< { < c'' e''>8->(   ~ 4) r8 
->( } \\ { aes2) 8-. -. 4 } >>
<< { 8  ) ->( 4.)  c'8 } 
\\ { 4 bes 8-. -. 4 } >>
}

pickup = \lyricmode {
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
It's
}
harmonies = \chordmode {
r1 r1 r1
}
\score {
   <<
  \context ChordNames {
 \set chordChanges = ##t
 \harmonies
  }
   \context Voice = one {
  \melody
   }
   \lyricsto "1" \new Lyrics \pickup
   >>
   \layout { }
   \midi { \tempo 2=60 }
}
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Re: \skip in lyricmode

2005-01-13 Thread Charles Gran
So--if I understand this correctly--the number after \skip is still 
required in \lyricsto but doesn't do anything.

Realted to this, I have an introduction to a song that has a pickup text 
(discussed in an earlier post).  The text useed to appear on the and of 
four in m.3.  I added phrase marks and staccati to the introduction and 
now the text won't appear.  Using \skip, there is a point where the text 
disappears.

I am using 2.4.2 under cygwin:
\version "2.4.2"
#(set-default-paper-size "letter")
%#(set-global-staff-size 25)
\header {
title = "Casting Spells"
poet = "C J Ver Burg"
composer = "Charles Gran"
tagline = ""
}
melody = {
\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f
\clef treble
\key f \minor
\time 2/2
%\tempo 2=60
<< { 8-. -. < f' g' >4 8-. -. < f' 
g' >4 } \\ { c'4( b8) f->( c'4) b8 f->( } >>
<< { < c'' e''>8->(   ~ 4) r8 
->( } \\ { aes2) 8-. -. 4 } >>
<< { 8  ) ->( 4.)  c'8 } 
\\ { 4 bes 8-. -. 4 } >>
}

pickup = \lyricmode {
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
It's
}
harmonies = \chordmode {
r1 r1 r1
}
\score {
   <<
  \context ChordNames {
 \set chordChanges = ##t
 \harmonies
  }
   \context Voice = one {
  \melody
   }
   \lyricsto "1" \new Lyrics \pickup
   >>
   \layout { }
   \midi { \tempo 2=60 }
}
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Re: \skip in lyricmode

2005-01-13 Thread Michael Kallas
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 12.01.05 10:09:54:
> 
> If you use \lyricsto or \addlyrics, than the durations of each
> lyrics syllable is completely determined by the rhythm of the
> music voice that you have attached the lyrics to, so in that
> situation a \skip X will just denote a space with the same duration
> as the corresponding note, just as you have observed.
> However, if you don't use \lyricsto or \addlyrics and explicitly
> specify the durations for each syllable, then \skip 1 will work
> exactly as you expected.
So, if you use \lyricsto, the character _ (underline) is much more
convenient and stands for one syllable, too.

Best wishes
Michael



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Re: \skip in lyricmode

2005-01-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson
If you use \lyricsto or \addlyrics, than the durations of each
lyrics syllable is completely determined by the rhythm of the
music voice that you have attached the lyrics to, so in that
situation a \skip X will just denote a space with the same duration
as the corresponding note, just as you have observed.
However, if you don't use \lyricsto or \addlyrics and explicitly
specify the durations for each syllable, then \skip 1 will work
exactly as you expected.
There was a recent discussion on the mailing list on this topic and
I think it resulted in some clarifications of the manual, however, I'm
not certain if those changes were done also in the manual for version
2.4.x.
   /Mats
Charles Gran wrote:
In lyricmode \skip 1 goes the next note in a series of 8th notes? I 
can't seem to get this number to represent anything.

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\skip in lyricmode

2005-01-11 Thread Charles Gran
In lyricmode \skip 1 goes the next note in a series of 8th notes? I 
can't seem to get this number to represent anything.

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