\startStaff after clef change in other staff
When a staff that has previously been stopped with \stopStaff is
restarted with \startStaff on the first beat of a measure, and this
coincides with a clef change in another staff, the first staff begins at
the clef instead of the barline.
%%% begin MWE %%%
\version "2.21.0"
\score {
<<
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 c c c |
\stopStaff
s1 |
\startStaff
c4 c c c |
}
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 c c c |
c4 c c c |
\clef "bass" c4 c c c |
}
>>
}
%%% end MWE %%%
This might be desirable in general, but in the context of my score
(not necessarily in this MWE) it looks odd. Is there a way to override
this behavior so that the staff begins on the barline?
Thanks,
Mason
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Re: \startStaff after clef change in other staff
Hi Mason,
I couldn't find the correct incantation to modify the StaffSymbol and/or
the BreakAlignment properties...
So here's a hacky way, HTH:
\version "2.21.0"
\score {
<<
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 c c c |
\stopStaff
s1
\startStaff
c4 c c c |
}
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 c c c |
c4 c c
\once\textLengthOn
c
-\tweak extra-offset #'(1.9 . -1.5) % <= to be set manually
^\markup\with-dimensions #'(0 . 4) #'(0 . 0)\musicglyph
#"clefs.F_change" |
\once\override Staff.Clef.stencil = ##f
\clef "bass" c4 c c c |
}
>>
}
Cheers,
Pierre
Le mer. 31 juil. 2019 à 00:53, a écrit :
> When a staff that has previously been stopped with \stopStaff is
> restarted with \startStaff on the first beat of a measure, and this
> coincides with a clef change in another staff, the first staff begins at
> the clef instead of the barline.
>
> %%% begin MWE %%%
>
> \version "2.21.0"
>
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff \relative c' {
> c4 c c c |
> \stopStaff
> s1 |
> \startStaff
> c4 c c c |
> }
> \new Staff \relative c' {
> c4 c c c |
> c4 c c c |
> \clef "bass" c4 c c c |
> }
> >>
> }
>
> %%% end MWE %%%
>
> This might be desirable in general, but in the context of my score
> (not necessarily in this MWE) it looks odd. Is there a way to override
> this behavior so that the staff begins on the barline?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mason
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Re: \startStaff after clef change in other staff
Better output with: -\tweak extra-offset #'(1.9 . -1.55) % <= to be set
manually
PPS
Le mer. 31 juil. 2019 à 08:42, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> Hi Mason,
> I couldn't find the correct incantation to modify the StaffSymbol and/or
> the BreakAlignment properties...
> So here's a hacky way, HTH:
>
> \version "2.21.0"
>
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff \relative c' {
> c4 c c c |
> \stopStaff
> s1
> \startStaff
> c4 c c c |
> }
> \new Staff \relative c' {
> c4 c c c |
> c4 c c
> \once\textLengthOn
> c
> -\tweak extra-offset #'(1.9 . -1.5) % <= to be set manually
> ^\markup\with-dimensions #'(0 . 4) #'(0 . 0)\musicglyph
> #"clefs.F_change" |
> \once\override Staff.Clef.stencil = ##f
> \clef "bass" c4 c c c |
> }
> >>
> }
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> Le mer. 31 juil. 2019 à 00:53, a écrit :
>
>> When a staff that has previously been stopped with \stopStaff is
>> restarted with \startStaff on the first beat of a measure, and this
>> coincides with a clef change in another staff, the first staff begins at
>> the clef instead of the barline.
>>
>> %%% begin MWE %%%
>>
>> \version "2.21.0"
>>
>> \score {
>> <<
>> \new Staff \relative c' {
>> c4 c c c |
>> \stopStaff
>> s1 |
>> \startStaff
>> c4 c c c |
>> }
>> \new Staff \relative c' {
>> c4 c c c |
>> c4 c c c |
>> \clef "bass" c4 c c c |
>> }
>> >>
>> }
>>
>> %%% end MWE %%%
>>
>> This might be desirable in general, but in the context of my score
>> (not necessarily in this MWE) it looks odd. Is there a way to override
>> this behavior so that the staff begins on the barline?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mason
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Re: \startStaff after clef change in other staff
On 31.07.19 08:42, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: \once\override Staff.Clef.stencil = ##f AKA \once\omit Staff.Clef ;-) Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \startStaff after clef change in other staff
Yep thank you Simon.
This morning I came up to those 2 options, but couldn't go further:
\version "2.21.0"
% Option 1:
\score {
<<
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 c c c |
\stopStaff
s1 |
\startStaff
c4 c c c |
}
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 c c c |
c4 c c c |
\once\override Score.BreakAlignment.break-align-orders =
#(make-vector 3 '(staff-bar clef))
\clef "bass" c4 c c c |
}
>>
}
% Option 2:
\score {
<<
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 c c c |
\stopStaff
s1 |
\startStaff
c4 c c c |
}
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 c c c |
c4 c c c |
\clef "bass" c4 c c c |
}
>>
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Break_align_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Break_align_engraver
}
}
}
Do you have any idea for improvement?
Cheers,
Pierre
Le mer. 31 juil. 2019 à 14:48, Simon Albrecht a
écrit :
> On 31.07.19 08:42, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote:
> > \once\override Staff.Clef.stencil = ##f
>
>
> AKA \once\omit Staff.Clef ;-)
>
> Best, Simon
>
>
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Re: \startStaff after clef change in other staff
On 07/31, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote:
> \version "2.21.0"
> % Option 1:
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff \relative c' {
> c4 c c c |
> \stopStaff
> s1 |
> \startStaff
> c4 c c c |
> }
> \new Staff \relative c' {
> c4 c c c |
> c4 c c c |
> \once\override Score.BreakAlignment.break-align-orders =
> #(make-vector 3 '(staff-bar clef))
> \clef "bass" c4 c c c |
> }
> >>
> }
>
> % Option 2:
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff \relative c' {
> c4 c c c |
> \stopStaff
> s1 |
> \startStaff
> c4 c c c |
> }
> \new Staff \relative c' {
> c4 c c c |
> c4 c c c |
> \clef "bass" c4 c c c |
> }
> >>
> \layout {
> \context {
> \Score
> \remove Break_align_engraver
> }
> \context {
> \Staff
> \consists Break_align_engraver
> }
> }
> }
Thanks Pierre,
Both of these approaches seem promising. I like that neither requires
manual tweaking, and I like that the Option 2 seems to not be specific
to clefs, which is good since there are also some places where grace
notes have a similar effect. However, the version in your earlier email
does produce a better result, in that it changes where the staff begins
as opposed to moving the barlines. I'll play around with these. Thanks.
Mason
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