Re: {SPAM 02.4} Re: Repeating \markup commands

[Malte Meyn]

Am 08.04.2018 um 20:13 schrieb David Sumbler:

\version "2.19.81"
nar = ^\markup \whiteout \pad-markup #2 \etc

Unfortunately the above produces "syntax error, unexpected \etc"
The older version works fine.


That’s because that’s a very recent change that hasn’t been released yet 
so “\version "2.19.81"” isn’t correct.


In current master it works. That means that it’ll be available for you 
in 2.21.0 or perhaps 2.19.82/2.20.0.



It would be nice to get the newer version to work, because in principle
this type of syntax should make it much easier for me to create my own
functions in future instead of bothering the list so often.  But so far
I haven't been able to get it to work even after trying quite a lot of
small changes (purely on a "trial and error" basis


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Re: {SPAM 02.4} Re: Repeating \markup commands

[David Kastrup]

David Sumbler  writes:

> On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 16:56 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>> David Sumbler  writes:
>> 
>> > 
>> > The piece I am setting has a narrator.  For the score I have worked
>> > out
>> > a way of adding the narrator's short speeches over the music which
>> > gives the appearance I want.
>> > 
>> > It entails using the same markup commands for every individual
>> > speech,
>> > e.g.:
>> > 
>> > s^\markup { \whiteout \pad-markup #2 "Just listen!" }
>> > 
>> > (The s is an invisible rest)
>> > 
>> > It would be nice to be able to do something like:
>> > 
>> > s^\nar "Just listen!"
>> > 
>> > How could nar be defined in this case?
>> Current development version:
>> 
>> nar = ^\markup \whiteout \pad-markup #2 \etc
>> 
>> Older stuff:
>> 
>> nar =
>> #(define-event-function (parser location m) (markup?)
>>    #{ ^\markup \whiteout \pad-markup #2 #m #})
>> 
>> Not that much worse, actually.
>
> \version "2.19.81"
> nar = ^\markup \whiteout \pad-markup #2 \etc

2.21.0 to be is required, but for 2.19.81 you can at least omit the
somewhat cryptic "parser location" parameters.

> Unfortunately the above produces "syntax error, unexpected \etc"
> The older version works fine.
>
> It would be nice to get the newer version to work, because in
> principle this type of syntax should make it much easier for me to
> create my own functions in future instead of bothering the list so
> often.

It's just a particular kind of event function created from markup, so it
does not make for a lot of uses avoiding an actual Scheme-style
definition, and they aren't really that hard to do.

In a way, it is funny how far a limited redundant shortcut \etc will
carry both in the use cases actually covered by it as well as in user
acceptance.

One reason for the former may be that many music/scheme/event functions
have been intentionally organized in a manner where the most important
argument is last in order to facilitate "chaining" them without trailing
arguments stacking up.  And that argument order is what \etc can work
with.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: {SPAM 02.4} Re: Repeating \markup commands

[David Sumbler]

On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 16:56 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> David Sumbler  writes:
> 
> > 
> > The piece I am setting has a narrator.  For the score I have worked
> > out
> > a way of adding the narrator's short speeches over the music which
> > gives the appearance I want.
> > 
> > It entails using the same markup commands for every individual
> > speech,
> > e.g.:
> > 
> > s^\markup { \whiteout \pad-markup #2 "Just listen!" }
> > 
> > (The s is an invisible rest)
> > 
> > It would be nice to be able to do something like:
> > 
> > s^\nar "Just listen!"
> > 
> > How could nar be defined in this case?
> Current development version:
> 
> nar = ^\markup \whiteout \pad-markup #2 \etc
> 
> Older stuff:
> 
> nar =
> #(define-event-function (parser location m) (markup?)
>    #{ ^\markup \whiteout \pad-markup #2 #m #})
> 
> Not that much worse, actually.

\version "2.19.81"
nar = ^\markup \whiteout \pad-markup #2 \etc

Unfortunately the above produces "syntax error, unexpected \etc"
The older version works fine.

It would be nice to get the newer version to work, because in principle
this type of syntax should make it much easier for me to create my own
functions in future instead of bothering the list so often.  But so far
I haven't been able to get it to work even after trying quite a lot of
small changes (purely on a "trial and error" basis).

David


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