Re: Beaming (was Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef)

2011-09-26 Thread Carl Sorensen



On 9/25/11 3:46 PM, "Janek Warchoł"  wrote:

> W dniu 25 września 2011 23:33 użytkownik Carl Sorensen
>  napisał:
>> 
>> On 9/25/11 2:48 PM, "Janek Warchoł"  wrote:
>>> Our beaming really needs some improvements.
>> 
>> Please post the problems you are aware of,
> 
> Sure, i'm working on the report for some time now (it's a thorough
> report, just like my ties report - which is work-in-progress too).
> Would you like to see it now or when it's finished?

When it's finished is fine.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: Beaming (was Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef)

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
W dniu 25 września 2011 23:33 użytkownik Carl Sorensen
 napisał:
>
> On 9/25/11 2:48 PM, "Janek Warchoł"  wrote:
>> Our beaming really needs some improvements.
>
> Please post the problems you are aware of,

Sure, i'm working on the report for some time now (it's a thorough
report, just like my ties report - which is work-in-progress too).
Would you like to see it now or when it's finished?

> and I'll give you whatever
> estimate I can about how hard they will be to fix.

I guess they will be very hard to fix properly...  But i hope to be wrong :)

thanks,
Janek

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Beaming (was Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef)

2011-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen

On 9/25/11 2:48 PM, "Janek Warchoł"  wrote:
> Our beaming really needs some improvements.

Please post the problems you are aware of, and I'll give you whatever
estimate I can about how hard they will be to fix.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/25 Kieren MacMillan :
> Hi Nick,
>
>> And BTW, the "8" is by default not properly centred under the bottom of the 
>> loop of the clef. I normally use
>> \override Staff.OctavateEight #'X-offset = #0.6
>> to get it to where it looks correct.
>
> Good to see another obsessive-compulsive engraver on the list…  ;)
> I also think it's too small, so I tweak the font size as well.

Count me in!  I think it's too thin.*
And perhaps it shouldn't be italic, i've seen mostly roman 8s.

So, let's fix it? :)

cheers,
Janek

* if you're interested, i've probably never seen any Lily score
without some nitpicks that could be corrected...
Our beaming really needs some improvements.

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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Nick,

> And BTW, the "8" is by default not properly centred under the bottom of the 
> loop of the clef. I normally use
> \override Staff.OctavateEight #'X-offset = #0.6
> to get it to where it looks correct.

Good to see another obsessive-compulsive engraver on the list…  ;)
I also think it's too small, so I tweak the font size as well.

Best,
Kieren.
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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Nick Payne

On 26/09/11 06:06, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Alberto,


Is there any standard way to, using lilypond, add an 8 bellow a treble clef, 
meaning that it should be sang an octave bellow?

\clef "treble_8"


And BTW, the "8" is by default not properly centred under the bottom of 
the loop of the clef. I normally use


\override Staff.OctavateEight #'X-offset = #0.6

to get it to where it looks correct.

Nick


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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/25 Alberto Simões :
> Hello, Jenek,
>
> On 25/09/2011 21:22, Janek Warchoł wrote:
>>
>> Transposed clefs are discussed in Notation Reference (
>>
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#clef
>> ).  Since you have missed that information, maybe we should make it
>> more visible.  Do you think that we should add information about
>> treble_8 clef here:
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/learning/simple-notation ?
>>  Or maybe somewhere else?
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>> Janek
>
> I think it was my "lazy" fault :)
> I thought it to be something non standard, and gone searching directly in
> the snippets repository :-/

Aha, ok.

thanks,
Janek

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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Alberto,
You can do it this way:
{ \clef "treble_8" c'1 }

Hello
>
> Is there any standard way to, using lilypond, add an 8 bellow a treble
> clef, meaning that it should be sang an octave bellow?
>
> Thank you
> Alberto
> --
> Alberto Simoes
> CEHUM
>
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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Alberto Simões

Hello, Jenek,

On 25/09/2011 21:22, Janek Warchoł wrote:

Transposed clefs are discussed in Notation Reference (
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#clef
).  Since you have missed that information, maybe we should make it
more visible.  Do you think that we should add information about
treble_8 clef here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/learning/simple-notation ?
  Or maybe somewhere else?

thanks in advance,
Janek


I think it was my "lazy" fault :)
I thought it to be something non standard, and gone searching directly 
in the snippets repository :-/


Thanks
--
Alberto Simoes
CEHUM

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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Alberto,

2011/9/25 Alberto Simões :
>
> On 25/09/2011 21:06, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any standard way to, using lilypond, add an 8 bellow a treble
>>> clef, meaning that it should be sang an octave bellow?
>>
>> \clef "treble_8"
>
> Thats even simpler than what I found using google jut now :)
>
>  \set Staff.clefPosition = #0
>  \set Staff.clefOctavation = #0
>  \set Staff.middleCPosition = #-4

Transposed clefs are discussed in Notation Reference (
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#clef
).  Since you have missed that information, maybe we should make it
more visible.  Do you think that we should add information about
treble_8 clef here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/learning/simple-notation ?
 Or maybe somewhere else?

thanks in advance,
Janek

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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Alberto Simões



On 25/09/2011 21:06, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Alberto,


Is there any standard way to, using lilypond, add an 8 bellow a treble clef, 
meaning that it should be sang an octave bellow?


\clef "treble_8"


Thats even simpler than what I found using google jut now :)

  \set Staff.clefPosition = #0
  \set Staff.clefOctavation = #0
  \set Staff.middleCPosition = #-4

Thanks

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CEHUM

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Re: Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Alberto,

> Is there any standard way to, using lilypond, add an 8 bellow a treble clef, 
> meaning that it should be sang an octave bellow?

\clef "treble_8"

Cheers,
Kieren.
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Adding an 8 bellow the treble clef

2011-09-25 Thread Alberto Simões

Hello

Is there any standard way to, using lilypond, add an 8 bellow a treble 
clef, meaning that it should be sang an octave bellow?


Thank you
Alberto
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CEHUM

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