Re: Adjusting space in a lyric tie
On Jan 20, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > >> I want to increase the space inside the lyric tie. So if I have >> “some~word”, I’d like to have a little more space between “some” and “word”. >> LyricHyphen.minimum-distance doesn’t do that. > > Ah, yes. Glad you found the answer! > > In your example, I suppose you really need all three tweaks given — otherwise > no hyphen appears, which makes the output rather confusing for the > reader/singer. Exactly. I already had LyricHyphen.minimum-distance set to 1. Then last night I came across LyricSpace.minimum-distance. All that was left was easing the spacing of LyricText.word-space. The result is much more legible. Thanks again for your help! David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adjusting space in a lyric tie
Hi David, > I want to increase the space inside the lyric tie. So if I have “some~word”, > I’d like to have a little more space between “some” and “word”. > LyricHyphen.minimum-distance doesn’t do that. Ah, yes. Glad you found the answer! In your example, I suppose you really need all three tweaks given — otherwise no hyphen appears, which makes the output rather confusing for the reader/singer. Cheers, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adjusting space in a lyric tie
On 2019-01-19 9:15 pm, David F. wrote: On Jan 19, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: LyricText.word-space is what you want to adjust. Note that it doesn't stretch the size of the tie. Perfect! Thanks! And just for completeness, here is how you can manually construct a tie of arbitrary width: \version "2.19.82" \markup { \tied-lyric #"o~o" \concat { o \lower #0.4 \with-dimensions #'(0 . 0.6) #'(0 . 0) \scale #'(1 . 0.65) \stencil #(make-tie-stencil '(-0.5 . 0) '(1.1 . 0) 0.25 DOWN) o } \concat { > \lower #0.4 \with-dimensions #'(0 . 2) #'(0 . 0) \scale #'(1 . 0.45) \stencil #(make-tie-stencil '(-1 . 0) '(3 . 0) 0.4 DOWN) < } } The first is the normal tied lyric behavior. The second is a close approximation with the manual process. The third is a wider example. There are quite a few numbers to adjust, but you do get a lot more flexibility. - \lower is used to place the stencil a specific distance away from the base of the lyrics. - \with-dimensions is used to allow some horizontal overlap with the tie and the lyrics. This is where you would want to specify the absolute space between words. - \scale is used to flatten the tie which, over longer distances, will end up being too tall compared to the standard lyric tie. - \stencil #(make-tie-stencil start stop thickness direction) is the actual command for generating the tie. It is positioned slightly left and right of the previously defined horizontal extents to create the desired overlap. Thickness is increased to counteract the vertical scaling. -- Aaron Hill___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adjusting space in a lyric tie
On Jan 19, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: > LyricText.word-space is what you want to adjust. Note that it doesn't > stretch the size of the tie. Perfect! Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adjusting space in a lyric tie
On 2019-01-19 8:02 pm, David F. wrote: On Jan 19, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi David, How do I adjust the space between two syllables/words that are tied? LyricSpace.minimum-distance works for words that are not tied. \override Lyrics.LyricHyphen.minimum-distance = #2 Hope that helps! Thanks Kieren, but I wasn’t clear enough in my initial request for help. I want to increase the space inside the lyric tie. So if I have “some~word”, I’d like to have a little more space between “some” and “word”. LyricHyphen.minimum-distance doesn’t do that. LyricText.word-space is what you want to adjust. Note that it doesn't stretch the size of the tie. \version "2.19.82" \new Lyrics \lyricmode { \override LyricText.word-space = #0 o~o \override LyricText.word-space = #1 o~o \override LyricText.word-space = #2 o~o } -- Aaron Hill___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adjusting space in a lyric tie
On Jan 19, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > >> How do I adjust the space between two syllables/words that are tied? >> LyricSpace.minimum-distance works for words that are not tied. > > \override Lyrics.LyricHyphen.minimum-distance = #2 > > Hope that helps! Thanks Kieren, but I wasn’t clear enough in my initial request for help. I want to increase the space inside the lyric tie. So if I have “some~word”, I’d like to have a little more space between “some” and “word”. LyricHyphen.minimum-distance doesn’t do that. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adjusting space in a lyric tie
Hi David, > How do I adjust the space between two syllables/words that are tied? > LyricSpace.minimum-distance works for words that are not tied. \override Lyrics.LyricHyphen.minimum-distance = #2 Hope that helps! Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Adjusting space in a lyric tie
How do I adjust the space between two syllables/words that are tied? LyricSpace.minimum-distance works for words that are not tied. Thanks! David \version "2.19" { c'4 d'4 e'4 f'4 } \addlyrics { \override Lyrics.LyricSpace.minimum-distance = #2 Ly -- rics with~some~ly -- ric~ties } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user