Installing Frescobaldi 2 [WAS: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0]

2011-09-28 Thread Federico Bruni

Il 28/09/2011 02:15, MING TSANG ha scritto:

Hi, lilypond user:

I have following the frescobaldi alpha release. I sound interesting.  
I would like to try but don't have experience installing software.


Currently I have window 7 and linux fedora 15.  I have jedit  
lilypond 2.15.13 in window7; frescobaldi 1.2 and lilypond 2.14.2 in 
linux fedora 15.  I like to try alpha frescobaldi 2 (v1.90) in window 7.


Is there any install package that include all required software bundle 
together? One execution to install all.




I don't think there's a Windows installer yet.
Read this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi/browse_thread/thread/a0e7bae71631f0d8/361aed019095a23f


Anyway the build in linux is quite easy.
In Debian I had to install these dependencies:

python-qt4 python-qt4-dev libqt4-dev python-sip-dev libpoppler-qt4-dev 
libqt4-core python-sip4-dev


Then you should download the last package here: 
http://code.google.com/p/python-poppler-qt4/


Uncompress it and run these two commands:

python setup.py build
python setup.py install

(the second command as root user)

Then just grab frescobaldi and run it:

git clone https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi.git
cd frescobaldi
./frescobaldi

Good luck!
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Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hi There,

after almost one year of frantic development I'm happy to announce a
usable alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0 (version 1.9.0).

https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi (click Download)

Frescobaldi is a dedicated LilyPond sheet-music editor with built-in
PDF preview.

Frescobaldi 2.0 is not depending on KDE anymore and can run on Windows
(needs packaging of poppler-qt4 python binding), Mac OS X and Linux. It
uses Python, PyQt4 and Poppler (for the PDF preview).

Most features of Frescobaldi 1.x are available, except for Rumor
support. MIDI input and output will probably be implemented using
PortMIDI and merged into Frescobaldi later in the 2.0 line.

I have imported all translations from Frescobaldi 1.x. Of course there
are also some new strings which can be translated.

What's new:
- very robust LilyPond parser that also understands HTML, TexInfo, etc.
  with embedded LilyPond. It also powers the syntaxis coloring.
- PDF preview with smart, two-way, point and click (you can change the
  document and the links still point to the correct notes). Can also
  highlight objects in the PDF while the cursor is moving in the text.
- magnifier (Ctrl-Click in PDF preview)
- fully rewritten snippet manager can also run Python scripts and has
  lots of intelligent functions to make flexible insert commands that
  can be put in the Insert menu and have keyboard shortcuts
- built-in User Guide
- multiple movement/score support in Score Wizard
- multiple/split editor views

This is an alpha-release, but testing is very welcome.

Enjoy,
Wilbert Berendsen

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 after almost one year of frantic development I'm happy to announce a
 usable alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0 (version 1.9.0).

 https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi (click Download)

 Frescobaldi is a dedicated LilyPond sheet-music editor with built-in
 PDF preview.

Wonderful, I've been looking forward to Frescobaldi 2

-- 
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In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world.
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Re: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/9/27 Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl:
 Hi There,

 after almost one year of frantic development I'm happy to announce a
 usable alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0 (version 1.9.0).

 https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi (click Download)

Great, I am testing it now, works perfectly. Thanks!
-- 
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www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 after almost one year of frantic development I'm happy to announce a
 usable alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0 (version 1.9.0).

 https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi (click Download)

 Frescobaldi is a dedicated LilyPond sheet-music editor with built-in
 PDF preview.

 Wonderful, I've been looking forward to Frescobaldi 2

Oh, I love this already -- being able to click on a note in the score
and highlighting the note in the Lilypond source is golden. And +1 for
opening all of the dependencies for a multi-file score. It loads much
faster and seems to render scores much faster, too.

-- 
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In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world.
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Re: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread Urs Liska

Can't wait to try this out !!!

Am 27.09.2011 12:11, schrieb Wilbert Berendsen:

Hi There,

after almost one year of frantic development I'm happy to announce a
usable alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0 (version 1.9.0).

https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi (click Download)

Frescobaldi is a dedicated LilyPond sheet-music editor with built-in
PDF preview.

Frescobaldi 2.0 is not depending on KDE anymore and can run on Windows
(needs packaging of poppler-qt4 python binding), Mac OS X and Linux. It
uses Python, PyQt4 and Poppler (for the PDF preview).

Most features of Frescobaldi 1.x are available, except for Rumor
support. MIDI input and output will probably be implemented using
PortMIDI and merged into Frescobaldi later in the 2.0 line.

I have imported all translations from Frescobaldi 1.x. Of course there
are also some new strings which can be translated.

What's new:
- very robust LilyPond parser that also understands HTML, TexInfo, etc.
   with embedded LilyPond. It also powers the syntaxis coloring.
- PDF preview with smart, two-way, point and click (you can change the
   document and the links still point to the correct notes). Can also
   highlight objects in the PDF while the cursor is moving in the text.
- magnifier (Ctrl-Click in PDF preview)
- fully rewritten snippet manager can also run Python scripts and has
   lots of intelligent functions to make flexible insert commands that
   can be put in the Insert menu and have keyboard shortcuts
- built-in User Guide
- multiple movement/score support in Score Wizard
- multiple/split editor views

This is an alpha-release, but testing is very welcome.

Enjoy,
Wilbert Berendsen




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Re: [Frescobaldi] Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com writes:

 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 after almost one year of frantic development I'm happy to announce a
 usable alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0 (version 1.9.0).

 https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi (click Download)

 Frescobaldi is a dedicated LilyPond sheet-music editor with built-in
 PDF preview.

 Wonderful, I've been looking forward to Frescobaldi 2

 Oh, I love this already -- being able to click on a note in the score
 and highlighting the note in the Lilypond source is golden.

Uh, you do know that Lilypond offers this for pretty much every other
editor?

Check out Point and Click in Lilypond Usage.

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:57 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Wonderful, I've been looking forward to Frescobaldi 2

 Oh, I love this already -- being able to click on a note in the score
 and highlighting the note in the Lilypond source is golden.

 Uh, you do know that Lilypond offers this for pretty much every other
 editor?

 Check out Point and Click in Lilypond Usage.

Yes, Frescobaldi did too, but it's more obvious with the notes being
highlighted with a little box. It looks like it goes both ways now,
you select the note in the Lilypond text and it's highlighted in the
PDF

-- 
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.electricminstrel.com

In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world.
    -- Jelaleddin Rumi

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread Urs Liska

Am 27.09.2011 13:11, schrieb Brett McCoy:

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:57 AM, David Kastrupd...@gnu.org  wrote:

Wonderful, I've been looking forward to Frescobaldi 2

Oh, I love this already -- being able to click on a note in the score
and highlighting the note in the Lilypond source is golden.

Uh, you do know that Lilypond offers this for pretty much every other
editor?

Check out Point and Click in Lilypond Usage.

Yes, Frescobaldi did too, but it's more obvious with the notes being
highlighted with a little box. It looks like it goes both ways now,
you select the note in the Lilypond text and it's highlighted in the
PDF

And (according to the release notes) it still works after you have 
changed the source code (the links lilypond attach to the objects point 
to specific line numbers, and if the code is changed they point to the 
wrong place.


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point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:46:01 +0200
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de schreef:

 And (according to the release notes) it still works after you have 
 changed the source code (the links lilypond attach to the objects
 point to specific line numbers, and if the code is changed they point
 to the wrong place.

Frescobaldi 2 couples the point-and-click links as soon as a PDF is
loaded to positions in the text document. If you alter the document, the
links in the PDF document stay connected with the positions in the
text document.

Frescobaldi 2 can also find objects in the PDF: if you walk with the
text cursor or select text, the corresponding objects in the PDF are
highlighted. If you press Ctrl+J, the PDF scrolls to the page where the
music at the text cursor is at.

This paves the way to more interesting capabilities, as Frescobaldi
knows what type of object a clickable link in the PDF represents (a
note, rest, slur, articulation, rehearsalmark, etc) because it
continuously parses the text as it is entered or modified. The parsed
tokens are stored, so lookup what kind of object is at some cursor
position is very fast.

(You can see this e.g. when you hover a slur in the music, Frescobaldi
highlights not only the start parenthesis of the slur in the text but
also the ending one.)

So in the future it may become possible to drag a note to a different
octave, or to draw slurs between notes by dragging, or to right-click
a slur and select Down or Dashed or whatever. All without needing
any change to LilyPond itself.

best,
Wilbert

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Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Frescobaldi 2 couples the point-and-click links as soon as a PDF is
 loaded to positions in the text document. If you alter the document, the
 links in the PDF document stay connected with the positions in the
 text document.

One suggestion I have is to make the highlight box contrast better
with the background. The PDF view is black on light beige and the
highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
either (I prefer black on white).

-- 
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In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world.
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Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
Never mind I found it!

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Frescobaldi 2 couples the point-and-click links as soon as a PDF is
 loaded to positions in the text document. If you alter the document, the
 links in the PDF document stay connected with the positions in the
 text document.

 One suggestion I have is to make the highlight box contrast better
 with the background. The PDF view is black on light beige and the
 highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
 purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
 I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
 either (I prefer black on white).

 --
 Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.electricminstrel.com
 
 In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
 it would overturn the world.
     -- Jelaleddin Rumi




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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:38:23 -0400
Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com schreef:

 The PDF view is black on light beige and the
 highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
 purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
 I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
 either (I prefer black on white).

Everything is configurable indeed: Edit-Preferences-Fonts 
Colors-Preview Background and Preview Highlight. But the latter is by
default derived from the current UI-style's selection color (which is
blue on many systems, but can also be of a different color.).

I think I must make the default background color of the PDF preview lighter.

kind regards!
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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 The PDF view is black on light beige and the
 highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
 purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
 I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
 either (I prefer black on white).

 Everything is configurable indeed: Edit-Preferences-Fonts 
 Colors-Preview Background and Preview Highlight. But the latter is by
 default derived from the current UI-style's selection color (which is
 blue on many systems, but can also be of a different color.).

Yep, I found it, perfect!

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/9/27 Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl:
 Op Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:38:23 -0400
 Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com schreef:

 The PDF view is black on light beige and the
 highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
 purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
 I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
 either (I prefer black on white).

 Everything is configurable indeed: Edit-Preferences-Fonts 
 Colors-Preview Background and Preview Highlight. But the latter is by
 default derived from the current UI-style's selection color (which is
 blue on many systems, but can also be of a different color.).

 I think I must make the default background color of the PDF preview lighter.

The problem I had finding this setting is that the color rectangles in
the preferences/fonts+colors dialog are not intialized to the current
colors, not even after having selected an actual color from the
palette.  All appear white in my system.
-- 
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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/9/27 Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl:
 Op Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:38:23 -0400
 Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com schreef:

 Everything is configurable indeed: Edit-Preferences-Fonts 
 Colors-Preview Background and Preview Highlight. But the latter is by
 default derived from the current UI-style's selection color (which is
 blue on many systems, but can also be of a different color.).

 I think I must make the default background color of the PDF preview lighter.

 The problem I had finding this setting is that the color rectangles in
 the preferences/fonts+colors dialog are not intialized to the current
 colors, not even after having selected an actual color from the
 palette.  All appear white in my system.

Yep, same here, would be good to get a color preview there.


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Re: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0

2011-09-27 Thread Rodolfo Zitellini
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Hi There,

 after almost one year of frantic development I'm happy to announce a
 usable alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0 (version 1.9.0).

 https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi (click Download)

 Frescobaldi is a dedicated LilyPond sheet-music editor with built-in
 PDF preview.


Tried it now on macos x, fabulous! I will do some testing in the next days.
If you are interested, I can see a bit if it is possible to create a
clickable .app application
Cheers,
Rodolfo

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Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Vicente Solsona

So in the future it may become possible to drag a note to a different
octave, or to draw slurs between notes by dragging, or to right-click
a slur and select Down or Dashed or whatever. All without needing
any change to LilyPond itself.



if you allow me to make a feature request, the slur tweaking and the object
moving tools in lilypondtool are very useful timesavers. it would be really
cool to have such features in frescobaldi.

besides that, many thanks and congratulations for creating such a neat  
tool.
now that it's cross-platform, it can become THE lilypond editor for a lot  
of

people.

--
greetings,

Vicente


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