subject:"Creating multi\-score books"

Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread karl

Don Gingrich:
...
> What I'd like to create is:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
...

I do this regulary. You usually use lilypond-book, but I got tired of 
all thoose lily- files, I couldn't use that in makefiles, e.g.

So, I made my own version and have ever since used that.

...
>  \header{
>  title = "some silly thing"
>composer = "Not Mozart"
> }
> {
> <<
...

You can do the headers either in lilypond or latex. I do them in latex,
when latex is involved, since I usually also include some text after 
the header.

> As putting a bunch of individual scores together into a book may
> be a more or less common task, a good template would be brilliant
> and potentially useful for others

My lilypond/latex code are in:
 http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/

Examples of my work is:

 http://turkos.aspodata.se/choir/osthammar/mozart/requiem.pdf
 http://turkos.aspodata.se/choir/osthammar/mozart/cover.pdf
 http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/WAMozart/requiem/

 http://turkos.aspodata.se/noter/victoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/all.pdf
 http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/TomasLuisdeVictoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/

Let's dissect the motet example.

The entry file is all.tex, it is a usual latex file. To get hold of what
lilypond produces I do:

 \input{A-systems.tex}

for scores, and to include smaller music fragments I do:

 \includegraphics{sign-1.eps}

To make latex and lilypond work together, I use the Makefile, it has

%.lyi:  %.ly
echo '\include' \"$(INC)/I.ly\" >  $@
echo '\include' \"$<\"  >> $@

%.eps %-systems.tex:%.lyi
rm -f $(patsubst %.ly,%,$<)-*.eps
$(LP) --ps -dbackend=eps $<
$(BIN)lilypond-psfonts $*.psfonts $(patsubst %.lyi,%,$<).eps

The lyi thing is just to include 
 \include "lilypond-book-preamble.ly"
 \include "../include/choirbook.ly"

The "lilypond-book-preamble.ly" and "$(LP) --ps -dbackend=eps $<" make 
lilypond work in "lilypond-book mode" so I get the files
 A-1.eps ... A-9.eps A-systems.tex etc.
If you run lilypond-book, thoose files would be named
lily-.yyy instead, but since you can predict their names
you can include them directly instead of going the way around 
lilypond-book. The thing missing from lilypond-book though, is that
you must manually match the line length for your lilypond files and
latex for full width music:

$ grep line-width ../include/choirbook.ly 
line-width = 153 \mm
$ grep textwidth all.tex 
\setlength{\textwidth}{155mm}

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi all,

> If I don't misunderstand you I would compile the songs individually and 
> include them using \includepdf.

This is exactly what I do. Works fabulously. I highly recommend it.

HTH,
Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer
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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 16.02.2017 um 07:39 schrieb Don Gingrich:
>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:32:09 you wrote:
>>> Am 16. Februar 2017 07:02:10 MEZ schrieb Don Gingrich 
>> :
 I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
 joy with the documentation.

 Over the past few years I've created several scores
 for folk songs.

 Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
 their origins.

 What I'd like to create is:

 and so on

 I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
 LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
 page and discussion in TeX and the scores
 in LilyPond.

Hi Don,
I hadn’t seen you original mail.

I’m using ConTeXt to typeset songbooklets, with all the text and lyrics in TeX 
and only the scores in LilyPond, so quite similar to your requirements.
You can find my setup here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/LilyPond

Of course you would have to get acquainted with ConTeXt (MkIV, i.e. with 
LuaTeX) instead of LaTeX.
The mentioned LyLuaTeX uses a similar approach of including LilyPond code into 
LaTeX with the help of Lua.

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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi

Greetings Don,

To add to the suggestions, you might consider using pdftk - assuming
of course that both LaTeX and LilyPond files will be converted to pdf.

Hwaen Ch'uqi


On 2/16/17, Abbé Jacques Peron  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Another alternative is lyluatex, that you may find here :
> https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex.
>
> For this to work, you'll have to use lualatex.
>
> Jacques Peron +
>
>
> Le 16 févr. 2017 14:32, "Urs Liska"  a écrit :
>
>
>
> Am 16. Februar 2017 07:02:10 MEZ schrieb Don Gingrich <
> gingr...@internode.on.net>:
>>I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
>>joy with the documentation.
>>
>>Over the past few years I've created several scores
>>for folk songs.
>>
>>Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
>>their origins.
>>
>>What I'd like to create is:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>and so on
>>
>>I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
>>LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
>>page and discussion in TeX and the scores
>>in LilyPond.
>
> If I don't misunderstand you I would compile the songs individually and
> include them using \includepdf.
>
> HTH
> Urs
>
>
>>
>>Note that some of the scores were originally
>>entered using MuseScore and the converted
>>using xml2ly -- so the LilyPond code is *ugly*
>>but works as a standalone score. In my copious
>>free time I'd like to shift these converted scores
>>into clean code, but it's in the "if it ain't broke."
>>category unless the converted stuff is likely to be
>> breaking things.
>>
>>My minimal example winds up being several hundred
>>lines, so I've not included it.
>>
>>I tried this:
>>
>>\header {
>>  title = "Eight miniatures"
>>  composer = "Igor Stravinsky"
>>}
>>\score {
>>  …
>>  \header { piece = "Romanze" }
>>}
>>\markup {
>>   …text of second verse…
>>}
>>\markup {
>>   …text of third verse…
>>}
>>\score {
>>  …
>>  \header { piece = "Menuetto" }
>>}
>>
>>With including the score files and it
>>did not work.
>>
>>I tried this first:
>>
>>\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
>>
>>\begin{document}
>>
>>Documents for \verb+lilypond-book+ may freely mix music and text.
>>For example,
>>
>>Options are put in brackets.
>>
>>Larger examples can be put into a separate file, and introduced with
>>\verb+\lilypondfile+.
>>
>>\lilypondfile[quote,noindent]{MyFileName.ly}
>>
>>(If needed, replace @file{screech-and-boink.ly} by any @file{.ly} file
>>you put in the same directory as this file.)
>>
>>\end{document}
>>
>>And all that I got was the filename printed where the score should
>>have been.
>>
>>I also looked at the thread titled:
>>"Problem with lilypond-book and \markup blocks" from 2007
>>But when I tried to add a header after the \score{ -- e.g.
>>\score {
>> \header{
>> title = "some silly thing"
>>   composer = "Not Mozart"
>>}
>>{
>><<
>>
>>The title and composer disappeared into the ether -- clearly
>>the method here only works for snippets, not full or multi-page
>>scores.
>>
>>I keep banging at this and getting nowhere.
>>
>>
>>As putting a bunch of individual scores together into a book may
>>be a more or less common task, a good template would be brilliant
>>and potentially useful for others
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>-Don
>>
>>--
>>Don Gingrich
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread Abbé Jacques Peron

Hello,

Another alternative is lyluatex, that you may find here :
https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex.

For this to work, you'll have to use lualatex.

Jacques Peron +


Le 16 févr. 2017 14:32, "Urs Liska"  a écrit :



Am 16. Februar 2017 07:02:10 MEZ schrieb Don Gingrich <
gingr...@internode.on.net>:
>I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
>joy with the documentation.
>
>Over the past few years I've created several scores
>for folk songs.
>
>Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
>their origins.
>
>What I'd like to create is:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>and so on
>
>I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
>LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
>page and discussion in TeX and the scores
>in LilyPond.

If I don't misunderstand you I would compile the songs individually and
include them using \includepdf.

HTH
Urs


>
>Note that some of the scores were originally
>entered using MuseScore and the converted
>using xml2ly -- so the LilyPond code is *ugly*
>but works as a standalone score. In my copious
>free time I'd like to shift these converted scores
>into clean code, but it's in the "if it ain't broke."
>category unless the converted stuff is likely to be
> breaking things.
>
>My minimal example winds up being several hundred
>lines, so I've not included it.
>
>I tried this:
>
>\header {
>  title = "Eight miniatures"
>  composer = "Igor Stravinsky"
>}
>\score {
>  …
>  \header { piece = "Romanze" }
>}
>\markup {
>   …text of second verse…
>}
>\markup {
>   …text of third verse…
>}
>\score {
>  …
>  \header { piece = "Menuetto" }
>}
>
>With including the score files and it
>did not work.
>
>I tried this first:
>
>\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
>
>\begin{document}
>
>Documents for \verb+lilypond-book+ may freely mix music and text.
>For example,
>
>Options are put in brackets.
>
>Larger examples can be put into a separate file, and introduced with
>\verb+\lilypondfile+.
>
>\lilypondfile[quote,noindent]{MyFileName.ly}
>
>(If needed, replace @file{screech-and-boink.ly} by any @file{.ly} file
>you put in the same directory as this file.)
>
>\end{document}
>
>And all that I got was the filename printed where the score should
>have been.
>
>I also looked at the thread titled:
>"Problem with lilypond-book and \markup blocks" from 2007
>But when I tried to add a header after the \score{ -- e.g.
>\score {
> \header{
> title = "some silly thing"
>   composer = "Not Mozart"
>}
>{
><<
>
>The title and composer disappeared into the ether -- clearly
>the method here only works for snippets, not full or multi-page
>scores.
>
>I keep banging at this and getting nowhere.
>
>
>As putting a bunch of individual scores together into a book may
>be a more or less common task, a good template would be brilliant
>and potentially useful for others
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Don
>
>--
>Don Gingrich
>
>
>
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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-15 Thread Urs Liska

(Please always reply-to-all)


Am 16.02.2017 um 07:39 schrieb Don Gingrich:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:32:09 you wrote:
>> Am 16. Februar 2017 07:02:10 MEZ schrieb Don Gingrich 
> :
>>> I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
>>> joy with the documentation.
>>>
>>> Over the past few years I've created several scores
>>> for folk songs.
>>>
>>> Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
>>> their origins.
>>>
>>> What I'd like to create is:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> and so on
>>>
>>> I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
>>> LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
>>> page and discussion in TeX and the scores
>>> in LilyPond.
>> If I don't misunderstand you I would compile the songs individually and
>> include them using \includepdf.
> Hmmm I hadn't looked at it that way, but
> it may be the simplest way to get the job done.
>
> But, in the long run I would like to be able to
> build multi-page books of LilyPond scores,
> though this seems to be a difficult task.
>
> But to get it together for the upcoming  workshop
> keeping it simple is likely a good idea.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Don
>
>

I'm not totally sure about that. Keeping separate things separate like
this feels pretty clean to me.
Combine that with a good makefile, and you have both, perfect
integration plus the option of standalone scores.

Urs

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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-15 Thread Urs Liska



Am 16. Februar 2017 07:02:10 MEZ schrieb Don Gingrich 
:
>I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
>joy with the documentation.
>
>Over the past few years I've created several scores
>for folk songs. 
>
>Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
>their origins.
>
>What I'd like to create is:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>and so on
>
>I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
>LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
>page and discussion in TeX and the scores
>in LilyPond.

If I don't misunderstand you I would compile the songs individually and include 
them using \includepdf.

HTH
Urs


>
>Note that some of the scores were originally 
>entered using MuseScore and the converted
>using xml2ly -- so the LilyPond code is *ugly*
>but works as a standalone score. In my copious
>free time I'd like to shift these converted scores
>into clean code, but it's in the "if it ain't broke."
>category unless the converted stuff is likely to be
> breaking things.
>
>My minimal example winds up being several hundred
>lines, so I've not included it. 
>
>I tried this:
>
>\header {
>  title = "Eight miniatures"
>  composer = "Igor Stravinsky"
>}
>\score {
>  …
>  \header { piece = "Romanze" }
>}
>\markup {
>   …text of second verse…
>}
>\markup {
>   …text of third verse…
>}
>\score {
>  …
>  \header { piece = "Menuetto" }
>}
>
>With including the score files and it
>did not work.
>
>I tried this first:
>
>\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
>
>\begin{document}
>
>Documents for \verb+lilypond-book+ may freely mix music and text.
>For example,
>
>Options are put in brackets.
>
>Larger examples can be put into a separate file, and introduced with
>\verb+\lilypondfile+.
>
>\lilypondfile[quote,noindent]{MyFileName.ly}
>
>(If needed, replace @file{screech-and-boink.ly} by any @file{.ly} file
>you put in the same directory as this file.)
>
>\end{document}
>
>And all that I got was the filename printed where the score should
>have been.
>
>I also looked at the thread titled:
>"Problem with lilypond-book and \markup blocks" from 2007
>But when I tried to add a header after the \score{ -- e.g.
>\score {
> \header{
> title = "some silly thing"
>   composer = "Not Mozart"
>}
>{
><<
>
>The title and composer disappeared into the ether -- clearly
>the method here only works for snippets, not full or multi-page
>scores.
>
>I keep banging at this and getting nowhere.
>
>
>As putting a bunch of individual scores together into a book may
>be a more or less common task, a good template would be brilliant
>and potentially useful for others
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Don
>
>-- 
>Don Gingrich
>
>
>
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Creating multi-score books

2017-02-15 Thread Don Gingrich

I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
joy with the documentation.

Over the past few years I've created several scores
for folk songs. 

Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
their origins.

What I'd like to create is:











and so on

I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
page and discussion in TeX and the scores
in LilyPond.

Note that some of the scores were originally 
entered using MuseScore and the converted
using xml2ly -- so the LilyPond code is *ugly*
but works as a standalone score. In my copious
free time I'd like to shift these converted scores
into clean code, but it's in the "if it ain't broke."
category unless the converted stuff is likely to be
 breaking things.

My minimal example winds up being several hundred
lines, so I've not included it. 

I tried this:

\header {
  title = "Eight miniatures"
  composer = "Igor Stravinsky"
}
\score {
  …
  \header { piece = "Romanze" }
}
\markup {
   …text of second verse…
}
\markup {
   …text of third verse…
}
\score {
  …
  \header { piece = "Menuetto" }
}

With including the score files and it
did not work.

I tried this first:

\documentclass[a4paper]{article}

\begin{document}

Documents for \verb+lilypond-book+ may freely mix music and text.
For example,

Options are put in brackets.

Larger examples can be put into a separate file, and introduced with
\verb+\lilypondfile+.

\lilypondfile[quote,noindent]{MyFileName.ly}

(If needed, replace @file{screech-and-boink.ly} by any @file{.ly} file
you put in the same directory as this file.)

\end{document}

And all that I got was the filename printed where the score should
have been.

I also looked at the thread titled:
"Problem with lilypond-book and \markup blocks" from 2007
But when I tried to add a header after the \score{ -- e.g.
\score {
 \header{
 title = "some silly thing"
   composer = "Not Mozart"
}
{
<<

The title and composer disappeared into the ether -- clearly
the method here only works for snippets, not full or multi-page
scores.

I keep banging at this and getting nowhere.


As putting a bunch of individual scores together into a book may
be a more or less common task, a good template would be brilliant
and potentially useful for others

Thanks,

-Don

-- 
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