Re: Using extended mensural notation support for Lilypond

2016-05-11 Thread Noeck
Dear Graham,

thanks for your mail. You confirm what I found so far, too. And after
having read your mail, I also see that lib.ly is missing from the zip file.

> Even so, it is very sad
> that this remarkable improvement to lilypond appears to remain unusable.

That's really a pity. I still hope that someone knows it better (e.g.
knows the missing file)...

Best,
Joram

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Re: Using extended mensural notation support for Lilypond

2016-05-11 Thread Graham King
On Wed, 2016-05-11 at 22:31 +0200, Noeck wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> were there changes since "Extended mensural notation support for Lilypond":
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2015-02/msg00152.html
> 
> Or in other words, can someone please show me how to use it? Is it
> usable directly or do I need to patch lilypond somehow? There were some
> discussions about including a patch back then, but I don't know if it
> happend.
> 


Joram, that's remarkable timing; I was looking into this subject earlier
tonight.  I too would dearly like to get Lukas' enhancements to work.

Here's how I understand the status:

Back in February 2015 there were some very encouraging posts[1] on
lilypond-devel, in which Lukas Pietsch submitted the last of the C++
patches for his work on mensural notation.  He referred to a dropbox[2]
containing a document manual/custommensural.html that describes in
scholarly detail what appears to be a largely-complete body of code
representing a _huge_ advance in lilypond's ability to produce various
early notations.  The patch to lilypond's /scm/output-ps.scm mentioned
in the document seems to have been applied[3], as of lilypond 2.19.17.

This work clearly supersedes and surpasses the code published on Lukas'
website[4] four years ago, so I've given up trying to get that earlier
code working with 2.19.

The dropbox also contained a set of lilypond include files from 23 Feb
2015, but unfortunately one of them, lib.ly, seems to be missing, so
I've been unable thus far to use the newer software.

I've tried emailing Lukas a couple of times over as many years, but
without response, and I'm loth to pester him.  Even so, it is very sad
that this remarkable improvement to lilypond appears to remain unusable.

[1]
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2015-02/msg00204.html
[2]
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nrcz11hkslsbc52/custommensural-2015-02-23.zip?dl=0
[3] http://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/3882/
[4] http://lukas-pietsch.de/Music/
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Using extended mensural notation support for Lilypond

2016-05-11 Thread Noeck
Hi,

were there changes since "Extended mensural notation support for Lilypond":
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2015-02/msg00152.html

Or in other words, can someone please show me how to use it? Is it
usable directly or do I need to patch lilypond somehow? There were some
discussions about including a patch back then, but I don't know if it
happend.

I tried to use the files of the link above but I always get errors like

   error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here
   #
(define noteheads-sM1blackbaroque

@Lukas Pietsch: Are you on this list or could you help me to get it working?

Cheers,
Joram

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Re: Extended mensural notation support for Lilypond

2015-10-25 Thread Noeck
Hi,

can somebody tell me what happend to this topic:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Draft-Extended-mensural-notation-support-td172204.html

I have seen some discussion on devel and also some issues where code
related to this seems to be included in some 2.19 versions. But I could
not find includes like in the zip and I could not include the ly files
in the zip package.

What is the current status with this?
Can I use these things in LilyPond? How?
If it works, can I name the font files differently and select this music
font in the paper block in order to be able to switch back to the normal
music font?

Cheers,
Joram

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