Frescobaldi: Keyboard shortcut for toggling between editor and music view?

2024-02-12 Thread Hajo Baess
Hello all,

Maybe I am missing it alltogether or it does not exist or it is to hard
to find for me:
I am looking for a keyboard shortcut in Frescobaldi enabling me to
toggle between editor and music view, so I do not have to click with
the mouse.

I just can't find it. I have tried all kinds of possible candidates to
no avail. Is someone here who happens to know?

Thank you for pointing this out to me...



Re: Frescobaldi: Keyboard shortcut for toggling between editor and music view?

2024-02-13 Thread Knute Snortum
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 1:37 PM Hajo Baess  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Maybe I am missing it alltogether or it does not exist or it is to hard
> to find for me:
> I am looking for a keyboard shortcut in Frescobaldi enabling me to
> toggle between editor and music view, so I do not have to click with
> the mouse.
>
> I just can't find it. I have tried all kinds of possible candidates to
> no avail. Is someone here who happens to know?
>
> Thank you for pointing this out to me...
>

If it doesn't exist, it might be a nice addition!


--
Knute Snortum


Re: Frescobaldi: Keyboard shortcut for toggling between editor and music view?

2024-02-13 Thread Guy Stalnaker
I do not see such a toggle or any system call in the Key Shortcuts 
preferences that seems relevant. And perhaps that is not surprising - 
Frescobaldi is after all a code editor; that it assumes (!) one would 
always want the code visible makes sense to me.


Regards

On 2/12/24 15:36, Hajo Baess wrote:

Hello all,

Maybe I am missing it alltogether or it does not exist or it is to hard
to find for me:
I am looking for a keyboard shortcut in Frescobaldi enabling me to
toggle between editor and music view, so I do not have to click with
the mouse.

I just can't find it. I have tried all kinds of possible candidates to
no avail. Is someone here who happens to know?

Thank you for pointing this out to me...


--
“Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of 
human existence.”

― Aristotle




Re: Frescobaldi: Keyboard shortcut for toggling between editor and music view?

2024-02-13 Thread Hajo Baess
Maybe I was not clear enough in what I said: Of course the code should
be visible all the time. What I mean is the following:
When you have Frescobaldi open with its split window, there is always
one of the two halves active and reacts to input. Say, you are in the
editor, but want to go to a different page of your doc in the music
view, you always have to click into the Music View half of
Frescobaldi's window in order to activate it, so you can use a keyboard
shortcut there. And when you have done this and want to go back to the
editor, you have to click again into the editor pane to activate that
one for more input.

I am looking for a keyboard shortcut for activating whatever pane I
want to be in for input instead of having to click all the time,
because LilyPond is mostly keyboard work. The mouse (at least with me)
is hardly in use...

Am Dienstag, dem 13.02.2024 um 13:24 -0600 schrieb Guy Stalnaker:
> I do not see such a toggle or any system call in the Key Shortcuts 
> preferences that seems relevant. And perhaps that is not surprising -
> Frescobaldi is after all a code editor; that it assumes (!) one would
> always want the code visible makes sense to me.
> 
> Regards
> 
> On 2/12/24 15:36, Hajo Baess wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Maybe I am missing it alltogether or it does not exist or it is to
> > hard
> > to find for me:
> > I am looking for a keyboard shortcut in Frescobaldi enabling me to
> > toggle between editor and music view, so I do not have to click
> > with
> > the mouse.
> > 
> > I just can't find it. I have tried all kinds of possible candidates
> > to
> > no avail. Is someone here who happens to know?
> > 
> > Thank you for pointing this out to me...
> > 




Re: Frescobaldi: Keyboard shortcut for toggling between editor and music view?

2024-02-14 Thread Hajo Baess
I have (just completely accidentally, with a little help from the
Breeze theme color scheme) discovered a keyboard shortcut for switching
back and forth between the editor and the Music View. I think that it
is undocumented, and strange it is, too. Here it is:

 * from editor to Music View: press CTRL+TAB 5 times or until the Music
   View scroll bar is not greyed out any more. In Breeze for example,
   it turns light blue. The editor scroll bar turns grey at the same
   time.
 * from Music View to editor: press CTRL+Shift+TAB 5 times or until the
   editor's scroll bar is no longer greyed out, but Music View's is.

This is a crazy thing, but it seems to work...

No mouse needed.



Am Dienstag, dem 13.02.2024 um 13:24 -0600 schrieb Guy Stalnaker:
> I do not see such a toggle or any system call in the Key Shortcuts 
> preferences that seems relevant. And perhaps that is not surprising -
> Frescobaldi is after all a code editor; that it assumes (!) one would
> always want the code visible makes sense to me.
> 
> Regards
> 
> On 2/12/24 15:36, Hajo Baess wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Maybe I am missing it alltogether or it does not exist or it is to
> > hard
> > to find for me:
> > I am looking for a keyboard shortcut in Frescobaldi enabling me to
> > toggle between editor and music view, so I do not have to click
> > with
> > the mouse.
> > 
> > I just can't find it. I have tried all kinds of possible candidates
> > to
> > no avail. Is someone here who happens to know?
> > 
> > Thank you for pointing this out to me...
> > 




Re: Frescobaldi: Keyboard shortcut for toggling between editor and music view?

2024-02-14 Thread Guy Stalnaker
That makes sense to me. The Frescobaldo keyboard shortcuts are all, for my
Linux version, Meta-Ctrl-?. If TAB moves around fields in dialog windows,
then it makes sense that Ctrl-Tab might shift between those dialogs, or in
this case the various Tool palettes, etc.

Your persistence is admirable.

Guy

-- “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end
of human existence.” ― Aristotle

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024, 9:59 AM Hajo Baess  wrote:

> I have (just completely accidentally, with a little help from the
> Breeze theme color scheme) discovered a keyboard shortcut for switching
> back and forth between the editor and the Music View. I think that it
> is undocumented, and strange it is, too. Here it is:
>
>  * from editor to Music View: press CTRL+TAB 5 times or until the Music
>View scroll bar is not greyed out any more. In Breeze for example,
>it turns light blue. The editor scroll bar turns grey at the same
>time.
>  * from Music View to editor: press CTRL+Shift+TAB 5 times or until the
>editor's scroll bar is no longer greyed out, but Music View's is.
>
> This is a crazy thing, but it seems to work...
>
> No mouse needed.
>
>
>
> Am Dienstag, dem 13.02.2024 um 13:24 -0600 schrieb Guy Stalnaker:
> > I do not see such a toggle or any system call in the Key Shortcuts
> > preferences that seems relevant. And perhaps that is not surprising -
> > Frescobaldi is after all a code editor; that it assumes (!) one would
> > always want the code visible makes sense to me.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On 2/12/24 15:36, Hajo Baess wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Maybe I am missing it alltogether or it does not exist or it is to
> > > hard
> > > to find for me:
> > > I am looking for a keyboard shortcut in Frescobaldi enabling me to
> > > toggle between editor and music view, so I do not have to click
> > > with
> > > the mouse.
> > >
> > > I just can't find it. I have tried all kinds of possible candidates
> > > to
> > > no avail. Is someone here who happens to know?
> > >
> > > Thank you for pointing this out to me...
> > >
>
>


Re: Frescobaldi: Keyboard shortcut for toggling between editor and music view?

2024-02-14 Thread Knute Snortum
On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 7:59 AM Hajo Baess  wrote:

> I have (just completely accidentally, with a little help from the
> Breeze theme color scheme) discovered a keyboard shortcut for switching
> back and forth between the editor and the Music View. I think that it
> is undocumented, and strange it is, too. Here it is:
>
>  * from editor to Music View: press CTRL+TAB 5 times or until the Music
>View scroll bar is not greyed out any more. In Breeze for example,
>it turns light blue. The editor scroll bar turns grey at the same
>time.
>  * from Music View to editor: press CTRL+Shift+TAB 5 times or until the
>editor's scroll bar is no longer greyed out, but Music View's is.
>
> This is a crazy thing, but it seems to work...
>
> No mouse needed.
>

It doesn't work for me on Ubuntu Linux.  I do see different widgets getting
focus but it never seems to go to the Music View.  Still, it's an
interesting find!


--
Knute Snortum