Re: On Frescobaldi
Hi Andrew, I don't see any issue with you sending this on-list accidentally because I think this is where it should be discussed. Am 22.04.19 um 04:31 schrieb Andrew Bernard: Dear Urs, On a different tack altogether, with the oll work, you have a usage file and a module.ily, so two files. In my Frescobaldi 3 on a brand new Ubuntu 19 installation (the latest release as of last week) it still shows the problem I mentioned a while ago where the output PDF is not updated after changes. I must admit I don't recally *exactly* what you described then. This slowed me down a lot as I could not understand why my outline list code was not working. Reverting to my tried and true Gvim and PDF point and click works perfectly. Previously I worked around this by putting all the work in one file. Which is definitely not how it should be ... I'd like to file a bug report on, this, but I can't see a simple way to reprpduce the problem. Sounds like a really hard issue to me. I am very sorry to tell you that with the huge slowdown I see in my complex scores - metioned in the past as you know - and with this non-updating issue, I myself can no longer use Frescobaldi. it's a shame, as it is such a brilliant development environment. Is the no-update issue in any way related to the complexity of the scores or does it already happen with the case when you have one usage.ly and one module.ily file as mentioned at the top of your message? I'm sure I have never looked into the code responsible for updating the Music View, so I seem not to have participated thoroughly in the mentioned previous discussion. So: Is this happening consistently? Only with specific/certain combinations of score files? Does it depend on whether the compiled file is the "current" file or found implicitly (i.e. you have the "module.ily" open but compile the other through the "Always compile this file" option? If I have a set of LilyPond files to work with I'd put some print() debug statements in a few places in the code to start figuring out what might be the issue. Hmm. What to do? I would not know how to solve this, even though I know Python very well. Well, as said, having a reproducible state would be a prerequisite. Without that I can't give any advice at this point. However, while we're at it, what you *could* do something about is the slow-down issue. And that would be a *massive* contribution (in terms of impact) (which I'd always perfer over helping to move the oll-snippets files). The problem is that Frescobaldi collects data for syntax highlighting and autocompletion by parsing the input files. With large input files and especially large numbers of included files this becomes very time-consuming, and the basic flaw in the code is that the full process is triggered upon *every* change in the current document while being implemented blockingly. So as you noticed (and I have noticed that too in a few projects) working with Frescobaldi can become in fact impossible when loading a file or waiting after each keystroke may become a matter of minutes). The solution is pretty clear and should not be too hard, but I've never tackled it so far and it's obviously too time-consuming for Wilbert to do either. a) The update process should be more limited to what actually has changed (I'd say: only repeat going through the includes when it's actually an \include statement that has been modified), and b) the code should be moved to an external process. It has always been talk about a "background thread", but as far as I know (which may be wrong) a *thread* wouldn't help us much because Python threads wouldn't actually use a separate thread on the CPU. But for using a background *process* we now have the parallel job queue to reliably manage the background processes, which should be of use for this problem. Another approach would be a server process that is spawned at program startup and that can always be called when an update is necessary. That might be a better approach because invoking the process would occur very often and a server process *might* even be a better place to cache the results (for multiple open documents). I would be happy to give you pointers and assistance, and I'm sure Wilbert (who definitely knows that part of the code better than I do) would be too. The task is not very big but probably risky in terms of side-effects, so it has to be thoroughly discussed, planned and tested (making it somewhat bigger than inherently necessary). But I'm sure the effort-to-impact ratio would be very gratifying :-) Best Urs [I wonder if this is some sort of a buig with the PDF display not updating, perhaps some poppler file modification time issue?] a ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://list
Re: On Frescobaldi
Hi David, Was meant to be offlist to Urs, but never mind. Frescobaldi always used to update just fine, with no manual intervention. The behaviour has changed, and it si only when you have two separate files involved. It's only been happening since say, Ubuntu 18.04 or so (but don't ask me to certify that). We went through this on the list before, to no avail. I am using the popppler view in F. not xpdf, although I understand the poppler code is based on xpdf. Andrew On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 13:32, David Wright wrote: > > I've no idea if this is relevant, but one of my working practices > depends on the fact that xpdf does not update the display when the > underlying PDF changes unless you either (a) type r in the window > or (b) change page, zoom factor, or anything that requires consulting > the PDF file again. > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: On Frescobaldi
On Mon 22 Apr 2019 at 12:31:54 (+1000), Andrew Bernard wrote: > Dear Urs, > > On a different tack altogether, with the oll work, you have a usage file > and a module.ily, so two files. In my Frescobaldi 3 on a brand new Ubuntu > 19 installation (the latest release as of last week) it still shows the > problem I mentioned a while ago where the output PDF is not updated after > changes. This slowed me down a lot as I could not understand why my outline > list code was not working. Reverting to my tried and true Gvim and PDF > point and click works perfectly. Previously I worked around this by > putting all the work in one file. > > I'd like to file a bug report on, this, but I can't see a simple way to > reprpduce the problem. > > Sounds like a really hard issue to me. I am very sorry to tell you that > with the huge slowdown I see in my complex scores - metioned in the past as > you know - and with this non-updating issue, I myself can no longer use > Frescobaldi. it's a shame, as it is such a brilliant development > environment. > > Hmm. What to do? I would not know how to solve this, even though I know > Python very well. > > [I wonder if this is some sort of a buig with the PDF display not updating, > perhaps some poppler file modification time issue?] I've no idea if this is relevant, but one of my working practices depends on the fact that xpdf does not update the display when the underlying PDF changes unless you either (a) type r in the window or (b) change page, zoom factor, or anything that requires consulting the PDF file again. Cheers, David. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
On Frescobaldi
Dear Urs, On a different tack altogether, with the oll work, you have a usage file and a module.ily, so two files. In my Frescobaldi 3 on a brand new Ubuntu 19 installation (the latest release as of last week) it still shows the problem I mentioned a while ago where the output PDF is not updated after changes. This slowed me down a lot as I could not understand why my outline list code was not working. Reverting to my tried and true Gvim and PDF point and click works perfectly. Previously I worked around this by putting all the work in one file. I'd like to file a bug report on, this, but I can't see a simple way to reprpduce the problem. Sounds like a really hard issue to me. I am very sorry to tell you that with the huge slowdown I see in my complex scores - metioned in the past as you know - and with this non-updating issue, I myself can no longer use Frescobaldi. it's a shame, as it is such a brilliant development environment. Hmm. What to do? I would not know how to solve this, even though I know Python very well. [I wonder if this is some sort of a buig with the PDF display not updating, perhaps some poppler file modification time issue?] a ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi website English and Dutch
Hi Wilbert and All, Without wishing to be overly Anglocentric, the Frescobaldi website is still mixed up. if you manage to find the tiny 'English version' link at the bottom of the page, that's good, but the English sidebar menu items still link to Dutch pages, and then you have to search for the English version link way down the bottom of the page again. I like Dutch and I can read a bit, but it would be great if this could revert to how it all used to be, straightforward English for English speakers. It's fine by me if the primary domain links to a Dutch page, but most sites in this case provide a clear language button - at the top - that then renders the whole site in those languages. I came across this today when needing to reinstall Frescobaldi on Ubuntu. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi website in English
Ralph Palmer wrote: >Beautiful! Thanks, Wilbert. And thanks again for the wonderful program. I >use it for all my LilyPond entry. Oh, amen!!! I don't know who I ever used Lily without it! -- Tim Slattery tim risingdove com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi website in English
Beautiful! Thanks, Wilbert. And thanks again for the wonderful program. I use it for all my LilyPond entry. All the best, Ralph On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:46 AM Wilbert Berendsen wrote: > Op Wed, 20 Mar 2019 20:53:55 -0500 > Guy Stalnaker schreef: > > > It looks like it's the English homepage that's gone missing. > > Should work now. How it happened I don't understand... :-) > > -- > Wilbert Berendsen (www.wilbertberendsen.nl) > www.xs4allmoetblijven.nl > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi website in English
Op Wed, 20 Mar 2019 20:53:55 -0500 Guy Stalnaker schreef: > It looks like it's the English homepage that's gone missing. Should work now. How it happened I don't understand... :-) -- Wilbert Berendsen (www.wilbertberendsen.nl) www.xs4allmoetblijven.nl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi website in English
Guy (and everyone else) - When I go to , I get a page where the first line is "Laatste nieuws: 17 februari 2017: Frescobaldi 2.20.0 en 3.0.0 zijn beschikbaar!" If I then click on "English version" at the bottom of the page, I get "404 Not Found". If, instead, I click on "Links" on the left-hand sidebar, I get another non-English page (includes "Frescobaldi pakketten voor specifieke besturingssystemen"). If I click on "English version" at the bottom of *that* page, I get a "Links" page that is in English. If I click on "User guide" on the left-hand sidebar of *that* page, I get a page titled "Příručka k Frescobaldi". I cannot find an English language homepage or user manual. I would say something has gone awry. Also, is there a Spanish language version? I.e., of the Frescobaldi website, including the user manual? All the best, Ralph On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:56 PM Guy Stalnaker wrote: > Andrew, > > It looks like it's the English homepage that's gone missing. If I click on > any of the left side links and then on the English language link at the > bottom of the opened page an English-language page does open. Including the > manual. > > Guy > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 8:36 PM Andrew Bernard > wrote: > >> Has vanished. Is anybody able to look into this? It has been like that >> for a long time. The English Version link on the Dutch home page gives a >> 404 Not Found error. >> >> Andrew >> > -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi website in English
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, David Kastrup wrote: I don't mind learning Dutch. I use the Dutch note names all day. That's a start. :-) It's just the same as German, only different. Right. For example Dutch "bes" is German "b", Dutch "b" is german "h". LilyPond's default for notename entry is Dutch. Being a Dutch LilyPonder myself that makes me proud :-) -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi website in English
Andrew Bernard writes: >> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 12:54, Guy Stalnaker wrote: >> >>> >>> It looks like it's the English homepage that's gone missing. If I click on >>> any of the left side links and then on the English language link at the >>> bottom of the opened page an English-language page does open. Including the >>> manual. > > I don't mind learning Dutch. I use the Dutch note names all day. That's a > start. :-) It's just the same as German, only different. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi website in English
I don't mind learning Dutch. I use the Dutch note names all day. That's a start. :-) Andrew On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 12:54, Guy Stalnaker wrote: > > It looks like it's the English homepage that's gone missing. If I click on > any of the left side links and then on the English language link at the > bottom of the opened page an English-language page does open. Including the > manual. > > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi website in English
Andrew, It looks like it's the English homepage that's gone missing. If I click on any of the left side links and then on the English language link at the bottom of the opened page an English-language page does open. Including the manual. Guy -- “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of human existence.” ― Aristotle On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 8:36 PM Andrew Bernard wrote: > Has vanished. Is anybody able to look into this? It has been like that for > a long time. The English Version link on the Dutch home page gives a 404 > Not Found error. > > Andrew > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi website in English
Has vanished. Is anybody able to look into this? It has been like that for a long time. The English Version link on the Dutch home page gives a 404 Not Found error. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi
On 26/02/2019 12:16, Karlin High wrote: > On 2/26/2019 5:48 AM, Urs Liska wrote: >> Most questions can conveniently and more efficiently be discussed on >> lilypond-user while for most of the remaining Frescobaldi-specific >> questions the issue tracker on Github seems appropriate and sufficient >> anyway. > > And Frescobaldi's not the only related project discussed here. > OpenLilyLib, lyluatex, whatever-other-TeX, editors like vi and EMACS, > in-browser editors like lilybin.com and HackLily, PDF software, MIDI > software, and still other things are also known to show up. I guess to > me this list seems more like discussion for "LilyPond ecosystem" than > strictly LilyPond. > > Of course, if strictly-LilyPond discussion starts getting crowded out > somehow, maybe that should change. But I think it's reasonable to start > discussions here for most any form of LilyPond usage, and then take it > to a specific project's discussion forum or issue tracker when it > narrows to that project. Discussing other projects which fall into the Lilypond orbit can be a major service to readers. I only found out about Frescobaldi through this list a few years ago. I discovered today that there is a Google group so, if that is typical, banning all discussion would leave some users at best unsupported, and at worst ignorant. -- J Martin Rushton MBCS signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi
On 2/26/2019 5:48 AM, Urs Liska wrote: Most questions can conveniently and more efficiently be discussed on lilypond-user while for most of the remaining Frescobaldi-specific questions the issue tracker on Github seems appropriate and sufficient anyway. And Frescobaldi's not the only related project discussed here. OpenLilyLib, lyluatex, whatever-other-TeX, editors like vi and EMACS, in-browser editors like lilybin.com and HackLily, PDF software, MIDI software, and still other things are also known to show up. I guess to me this list seems more like discussion for "LilyPond ecosystem" than strictly LilyPond. Of course, if strictly-LilyPond discussion starts getting crowded out somehow, maybe that should change. But I think it's reasonable to start discussions here for most any form of LilyPond usage, and then take it to a specific project's discussion forum or issue tracker when it narrows to that project. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi
Am 26.02.19 um 08:55 schrieb Andrew Bernard: Hi Martin, The problem is that the Frescobaldi Yahoo Groups group is moribund, and people are forced to ask questions here. It's a Google group, but the assessment is correct. Is see no issue with that. I don't think anyone has complained. I don't even know if this list has a moderator anyway. More often it happens that people ask questions on the Frescobaldi list that are actually LilyPond questions - which is a pity because chances are much less to get answers to these on the Frescobaldi list. In theory you can discern between questions pertaining to using LilyPond and specific questions about Frescobaldi. But I don't think one should give users the responsibility to reliably make that distinction - especially as sometimes that only becomes clear through the discussion itself. From my perspective it would be even better to drop the Frescobaldi Googlegroups mailing list altogether. Most questions can conveniently and more efficiently be discussed on lilypond-user while for most of the remaining Frescobaldi-specific questions the issue tracker on Github seems appropriate and sufficient anyway. Urs Andrew On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 18:31, Martin Tarenskeen mailto:m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl>> wrote: For once and for all: Is it or is it not off-topic to discuss Frescobaldi using this mailing-list? I don't think it's off-topic. Every Frescobaldi user is also a LilyPond user, right? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi
Hi Martin, The problem is that the Frescobaldi Yahoo Groups group is moribund, and people are forced to ask questions here. Is see no issue with that. I don't think anyone has complained. I don't even know if this list has a moderator anyway. Andrew On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 18:31, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > For once and for all: Is it or is it not off-topic to discuss Frescobaldi > using this mailing-list? I don't think it's off-topic. Every Frescobaldi > user is also a LilyPond user, right? > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi
Hi, Frequently I see messages here with questions about Frescobaldi. Often these messages start with something like "maybe it's off-topic here but ...". For once and for all: Is it or is it not off-topic to discuss Frescobaldi using this mailing-list? I don't think it's off-topic. Every Frescobaldi user is also a LilyPond user, right? -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi broken on Win 10?
William, I've been running Frescobaldi 2.18.2 in a Windows 10 environment for quite awhile now, but I remember having problems early on in the conversion. I uninstalled Frescobaldi, rebooted, and then reinstalled from a fresh download, and haven't had any real issues since then. Karen On Thursday, February 21, 2019, 7:36:20 AM MST, Ben wrote: On 2/21/2019 9:18 AM, William Zeitler wrote: This is arguably off topic (from LP) but I'm stuck and don't know where else to turn. I was a happy LP/Frescobaldi user on Win7. Finally had to upgrade to Win10 (ugh!) When I launch Frescobaldi it silently fails to launch. I've launched it from the command line to see if there was any error-spew -- nothing. Just pauses for less than a second and then the command prompt again. I also installed the latest Python just because, but that didn't help. I get that WIndows is annoying (I do Linux C/C++ coding for a living) but all my music software (e.g. Cubase) is on Windows so LP/Frescobaldi needs to be also, just for basic workflow sanity. Suggestions? THANKS! William Zeitler Not sure which version you are using and how your path is setup, but try uninstalling everything Frescobaldi first - then install this: https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/releases/download/v3.0.0/Frescobaldi.Setup.3.0.0-2.exe See if you get any errors / output. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi broken on Win 10?
On 2/21/2019 9:18 AM, William Zeitler wrote: This is arguably off topic (from LP) but I'm stuck and don't know where else to turn. I was a happy LP/Frescobaldi user on Win7. Finally had to upgrade to Win10 (ugh!) When I launch Frescobaldi it silently fails to launch. I've launched it from the command line to see if there was any error-spew -- nothing. Just pauses for less than a second and then the command prompt again. I also installed the latest Python just because, but that didn't help. I get that WIndows is annoying (I do Linux C/C++ coding for a living) but all my music software (e.g. Cubase) is on Windows so LP/Frescobaldi needs to be also, just for basic workflow sanity. Suggestions? THANKS! William Zeitler Not sure which version you are using and how your path is setup, but try uninstalling everything Frescobaldi first - then install this: https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/releases/download/v3.0.0/Frescobaldi.Setup.3.0.0-2.exe See if you get any errors / output. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi broken on Win 10?
This is arguably off topic (from LP) but I'm stuck and don't know where else to turn. I was a happy LP/Frescobaldi user on Win7. Finally had to upgrade to Win10 (ugh!) When I launch Frescobaldi it silently fails to launch. I've launched it from the command line to see if there was any error-spew -- nothing. Just pauses for less than a second and then the command prompt again. I also installed the latest Python just because, but that didn't help. I get that WIndows is annoying (I do Linux C/C++ coding for a living) but all my music software (e.g. Cubase) is on Windows so LP/Frescobaldi needs to be also, just for basic workflow sanity. Suggestions? THANKS! William Zeitler ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Volunteers wanted as Frescobaldi mentors
Hi all, Frescobaldi wants to apply again as a Google Summer of Code mentoring organization this year. In order to submit a promising application we need to have a number of potential project mentors, so I want to ask on this list for people who can imagine volunteering for this rewarding assignment. With Frescobaldi the scope of required skills is quite narrower than with LilyPond - basically everything is done with Python (and PyQt). But the *main* challenge and task of a GSoC mentor is engaging with the student anyway, keeping them working and providing some feedback to them, acting as a bridge between student and user and developer community. Being a GSoC mentoring organization is a very good thing for an open source project, and it would be a terrific opportunity to get our 3.1 release out and go beyond that. So if you by any chance consider your self qualified for this task (even "sort-of"), please get in touch with us on- or off-list. You wouldn't be left hanging dry and can count on our collaboration to make this a worthwile experience. Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: [Frescobaldi] Re: export the user guide to HTML (issue 825)
Forwarding this to lilypond-user because I think not all potential
addressees are also subscribed to the Frescobaldi mailing list ...
Weitergeleitete Nachricht
Betreff:[Frescobaldi] Re: export the user guide to HTML (issue 825)
Datum: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 23:34:24 -0800 (PST)
Von:g...@ursliska.de
Antwort an: frescoba...@googlegroups.com
An: Frescobaldi
Am Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2019 07:23:45 UTC+1 schrieb Federico Bruni:
Hi folks
As you know, the current user guide for Frescobaldi 3 is available only
within the application. Exporting it to HTML is a long standing issue
(at least since 2016):
<https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/825
<https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/825>>
There's anybody who's willing to work on it? :-)
It would be great to get this done in the next future, as I'm working
on the new website for Frescobaldi and it would be good to be able to
include the HTML user manual.
You don't have to be acquainted with Frescobaldi code base - Urs told
me. Here's what he wrote to me:
> When displaying a page in the user guide Frescobaldi converts the
> Markdown file to HTML and then loads that in the text browser
widget.
> So it should be *fairly* straightforward to write a harvesting tool
> that does that for the whole structure - it's basically about
> *managing*, not about doing the basic work.
> It should be equally possible to implement that within Frescobaldi
> ("Export User Guide") or as a standalone tool. The latter would look
> more natural to me while the former might be easier to do.
<https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/tree/master/frescobaldi_app/userguide
<https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/tree/master/frescobaldi_app/userguide>>
Any volunteer?
Let me just add that this would be a great way to support Frescobaldi
development with a medium-commitment contribution ;-)
Urs
Thanks
Federico
PS
The website I'm working on is generated with Hugo from Markdown
sources.
In theory I may add above userguide as a git submodule in a content
directory and let Hugo convert it to HTML. This would work if the user
guide files were simple Markdown, but they contain variables and other
stuff which only Frescobaldi scripts can understand.
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Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi
Issue tracker: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues
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Re: Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
Am 28.01.19 um 13:06 schrieb Andrew Bernard:
HI Vaughan,
I'm using a pristine clean new Debian 9, Frescobaldi 3, and whatever
Python that currently uses of course. This effect hit all of a sudden.
The string quartet I have to write in blocks of ten pages to keep
Frescobaldi snappy in response, but it just hit the wall. Perhaps a
coincidence after an OS update, or perhaps i have just hit some
complexity threshold where Frescobaldi goes non-linear. Although not
large in length, I am after all engraving New Complexity School
scores, and the music is fairly dense with detail.
Just a random thought: is it by any chance possible that you managed to
force Frescobaldi into a loop, for example by circular includes?
Urs
Andrew
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 21:48, Vaughan McAlley <mailto:vaug...@mcalley.net.au>> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 18:18 Andrew Bernard
mailto:andrew.bern...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Federico,
Thanks for the input. Current score is only ten pages of
string quartet music. Complex yes, but not vast. It suddenly
stated after a Debian 9 update.
I love Frescobaldi, but the very sluggish response now of the
text editor is unusable, and I have had to abandon it for
Emacs. Emacs is great, but the indentation is abysmal, and
just messes up really quickly. Caught between two
unsatisfactory worlds now. I think I am going to have to take
on the monumental task or rewriting from scratch the lilypond
mode indenting and formatting engine. If I can achieve
anything in that area, it may be a good side effect of this
Frescobaldi problem.
Andrew
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H, I've been running Frescobaldi on Debian 9 without any
problems for a while now. IIRC (not near my computer) it's
Frescobaldi 3 which uses a different version of Python.
(Also, I messed up the upgrade so it became effectively a clean
install of Debian 9)
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Re: Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
HI Vaughan, I'm using a pristine clean new Debian 9, Frescobaldi 3, and whatever Python that currently uses of course. This effect hit all of a sudden. The string quartet I have to write in blocks of ten pages to keep Frescobaldi snappy in response, but it just hit the wall. Perhaps a coincidence after an OS update, or perhaps i have just hit some complexity threshold where Frescobaldi goes non-linear. Although not large in length, I am after all engraving New Complexity School scores, and the music is fairly dense with detail. Andrew On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 21:48, Vaughan McAlley wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 18:18 Andrew Bernard >> Hello Federico, >> >> Thanks for the input. Current score is only ten pages of string quartet >> music. Complex yes, but not vast. It suddenly stated after a Debian 9 >> update. >> >> I love Frescobaldi, but the very sluggish response now of the text editor >> is unusable, and I have had to abandon it for Emacs. Emacs is great, but >> the indentation is abysmal, and just messes up really quickly. Caught >> between two unsatisfactory worlds now. I think I am going to have to take >> on the monumental task or rewriting from scratch the lilypond mode >> indenting and formatting engine. If I can achieve anything in that area, it >> may be a good side effect of this Frescobaldi problem. >> >> Andrew >> >> >> ___ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > H, I've been running Frescobaldi on Debian 9 without any problems for > a while now. IIRC (not near my computer) it's Frescobaldi 3 which uses a > different version of Python. > > (Also, I messed up the upgrade so it became effectively a clean install of > Debian 9) > > Vaughan > The/ > >> >> ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
Andrew Bernard writes: > Hello Federico, > > Thanks for the input. Current score is only ten pages of string quartet > music. Complex yes, but not vast. It suddenly stated after a Debian 9 > update. > > I love Frescobaldi, but the very sluggish response now of the text editor > is unusable, and I have had to abandon it for Emacs. Emacs is great, but > the indentation is abysmal, and just messes up really quickly. Caught > between two unsatisfactory worlds now. I think I am going to have to take > on the monumental task or rewriting from scratch the lilypond mode > indenting and formatting engine. If I can achieve anything in that area, it > may be a good side effect of this Frescobaldi problem. There are definitely users of Emacs and LilyPond who would not switch to Frescobaldi anyway. If you can improve Emacs in that area, it will be appreciated whether or not the result turns out good enough to make current Frescobaldi users switch (and it seems that whatever usability issue causing a slowdown like that may be around, offering an option for switching it off would seem more welcome like a wholesale switch to most). -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 18:18 Andrew Bernard Hello Federico, > > Thanks for the input. Current score is only ten pages of string quartet > music. Complex yes, but not vast. It suddenly stated after a Debian 9 > update. > > I love Frescobaldi, but the very sluggish response now of the text editor > is unusable, and I have had to abandon it for Emacs. Emacs is great, but > the indentation is abysmal, and just messes up really quickly. Caught > between two unsatisfactory worlds now. I think I am going to have to take > on the monumental task or rewriting from scratch the lilypond mode > indenting and formatting engine. If I can achieve anything in that area, it > may be a good side effect of this Frescobaldi problem. > > Andrew > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user H, I've been running Frescobaldi on Debian 9 without any problems for a while now. IIRC (not near my computer) it's Frescobaldi 3 which uses a different version of Python. (Also, I messed up the upgrade so it became effectively a clean install of Debian 9) Vaughan The/ > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
Am 28.01.19 um 08:18 schrieb Andrew Bernard: Hi Urs, I split my score into files only ten pages long to avoid the issue to begin with, but it suddenly started happening. Perhaps some Debian 9 Python change? Other than with LilyPond the issue is not the complexity of the *score* but that of the *input files*, which correlates typically but not always. I had this problem with two projects: one was a huge (150 page) orchestral score that was organized in >5.000 input files, the other had very short 2-3 page songs with one large input of several thousand lines each because (from auto-converted input) every element had a "\tweak id". The basic error here in Frescobaldi's code is that (I think) upon every change the whole document is parsed again (following all includes) to provide the data for autocompletion and syntax highlighting. As this happens in the single application thread this is blocking everything else. Essentially there should only be two (minor) things to be done to completely and instantly make the problem go away: * Make sure that the used data structure is only updated in the background * Make sure only *modified* parts of it are updated While this is conceptually pretty clear I haven't dared yet to investigate it in the code base yet because I haven't understood yet how Frescobaldi actually does its highlighting. But I recently changed the way Frescobaldi handles external jobs/processes, and that might make it more straightforward and compartmentalized to approach the issue. I can't afford starting this but if you (well, or anyone else) would be interested going after it I'd certainly be there to assist. Urs Andrew On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 18:01, Urs Liska <mailto:li...@openlilylib.org>> wrote: Am 28.01.19 um 07:51 schrieb Federico Bruni: > Il giorno dom 27 gen 2019 alle 1:58, Andrew Bernard > mailto:andrew.bern...@gmail.com>> ha scritto: >> But since an upgrade to Debian 9 and as the complexity of my current >> score increases, F. has slowed down to a molasses like rate and has >> sadly become unusable. > > Are you sure that it was caused by an upgrade to Debian 9? Did you > upgrade Frescobaldi as well? How did you install Frescobaldi? > > Perhaps Frescobaldi is becoming slow only when you work on very big > scores or files that includes several large files? See this issue: > <https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/473> > I would also think that this problem is *not* related to a change in the Linux distribution but *only* to the complexity and size of the input files. The issue Federico links to is exactly the problem. Fixing this issue should be comparably low-hanging fruit, especially with some new code providing better control over external background jobs. So maybe tackling *this* would give you earlier results ;-) Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
Hi Urs, I split my score into files only ten pages long to avoid the issue to begin with, but it suddenly started happening. Perhaps some Debian 9 Python change? Andrew On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 18:01, Urs Liska wrote: > > Am 28.01.19 um 07:51 schrieb Federico Bruni: > > Il giorno dom 27 gen 2019 alle 1:58, Andrew Bernard > > ha scritto: > >> But since an upgrade to Debian 9 and as the complexity of my current > >> score increases, F. has slowed down to a molasses like rate and has > >> sadly become unusable. > > > > Are you sure that it was caused by an upgrade to Debian 9? Did you > > upgrade Frescobaldi as well? How did you install Frescobaldi? > > > > Perhaps Frescobaldi is becoming slow only when you work on very big > > scores or files that includes several large files? See this issue: > > <https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/473> > > > > I would also think that this problem is *not* related to a change in the > Linux distribution but *only* to the complexity and size of the input > files. The issue Federico links to is exactly the problem. > > Fixing this issue should be comparably low-hanging fruit, especially > with some new code providing better control over external background > jobs. So maybe tackling *this* would give you earlier results ;-) > > Urs > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
Hello Federico, Thanks for the input. Current score is only ten pages of string quartet music. Complex yes, but not vast. It suddenly stated after a Debian 9 update. I love Frescobaldi, but the very sluggish response now of the text editor is unusable, and I have had to abandon it for Emacs. Emacs is great, but the indentation is abysmal, and just messes up really quickly. Caught between two unsatisfactory worlds now. I think I am going to have to take on the monumental task or rewriting from scratch the lilypond mode indenting and formatting engine. If I can achieve anything in that area, it may be a good side effect of this Frescobaldi problem. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
Am 28.01.19 um 07:51 schrieb Federico Bruni: Il giorno dom 27 gen 2019 alle 1:58, Andrew Bernard ha scritto: But since an upgrade to Debian 9 and as the complexity of my current score increases, F. has slowed down to a molasses like rate and has sadly become unusable. Are you sure that it was caused by an upgrade to Debian 9? Did you upgrade Frescobaldi as well? How did you install Frescobaldi? Perhaps Frescobaldi is becoming slow only when you work on very big scores or files that includes several large files? See this issue: <https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/473> I would also think that this problem is *not* related to a change in the Linux distribution but *only* to the complexity and size of the input files. The issue Federico links to is exactly the problem. Fixing this issue should be comparably low-hanging fruit, especially with some new code providing better control over external background jobs. So maybe tackling *this* would give you earlier results ;-) Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi slowed down [WAS: Re: Emacs lilypond mode formatting and indenting]
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Re: Frescobaldi with LilyPond in WSL
Am 21. Dezember 2018 09:37:42 MEZ schrieb Michael Gerdau : > >>> I'm on a 64bit Windows 10, the copy commands needs to be: >>> cp /c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Frescobaldi/... >> >> Do you think it would be sufficient to state something like "adjust >paths to your actual installation"? > >Given that 64Bit is likely to be the rule I’d suggest to have that as >default and have a note stating „On 32bit Systems use...“ > >Once the GUP toolchain is able to create 64Bit binaries it could be >changed back. > >> The first milestone is having Frescobaldi run from Git at all (which >you can see from the "Git" menu appearing between "Session" and >"Help"). > >That milestone has been reached > > >[time constraint] >That’s fine. I’m happy to do some hacking myself. While my python could >use some enhancement I’m fluent in Perl and a few other languages so I >think I’m fine with some basic experiments. Great. > >If you already know which files I should look at that would give me a >headstart. Otherwise I’ll find that myself. > If you tell me how the command line should look I'll create something to start with. Urs >Kind regards, >Michael ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi with LilyPond in WSL
>> I'm on a 64bit Windows 10, the copy commands needs to be: >> cp /c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Frescobaldi/... > > Do you think it would be sufficient to state something like "adjust paths to > your actual installation"? Given that 64Bit is likely to be the rule I’d suggest to have that as default and have a note stating „On 32bit Systems use...“ Once the GUP toolchain is able to create 64Bit binaries it could be changed back. > The first milestone is having Frescobaldi run from Git at all (which you can > see from the "Git" menu appearing between "Session" and "Help"). That milestone has been reached [time constraint] That’s fine. I’m happy to do some hacking myself. While my python could use some enhancement I’m fluent in Perl and a few other languages so I think I’m fine with some basic experiments. If you already know which files I should look at that would give me a headstart. Otherwise I’ll find that myself. Kind regards, Michael ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi with LilyPond in WSL (was: Fatal error compiling large project (Win10/2.19.82))
Am 19.12.18 um 21:56 schrieb Michael Gerdau: First step would be running Frescobaldi from its Git repository (and at that occasion test if the description is accurate and also works for Windows 10): https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Run-Frescobaldi-3-from-Git-on-Windows Commenting as I go: These are the discrepancies so far: I'm on a 64bit Windows 10, the copy commands needs to be: cp /c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Frescobaldi/... Do you think it would be sufficient to state something like "adjust paths to your actual installation"? There is a directory /c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Frescobaldi/printsupport Is that copied as well or ignored? I have no idea if that directory wasn't there when I tried this out or if I simply missed it when writing the rules. I would say this qualifies as "everything except the frescobaldi_app directory", so I'd say yes, copy it. Which custom branch am I supposed to check out as well? None so far, there's no relevant code up yet. The first milestone is having Frescobaldi run from Git at all (which you can see from the "Git" menu appearing between "Session" and "Help"). I must say in advance that I'm not very likely to be able to follow through on this "project". I'm interested in it and can make a few tests to start with, in order to get an idea whether it can work at all. Providing a proper solution is something I can't afford going after at the moment since I'm already busy with several other intrusive projects on Frescobaldi. One thing you should prepare if Frescobaldi runs at all is register one (and only one) LilyPond instance that should probably point to a regular Windows LilyPond. I'm asking for this because when I'll write any code for this it will be more or less blindsided, and I want to be sure that I don't get confused by Frescobaldi trying to determine the appopriate LilyPond to be used. Urs Kind regards, Michael ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Enabling Frescobaldi to load external extensions
I have (finally) started to work towards making it possible to extend Frescobaldi with extensions. I have opened a Pull Request at https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1129 and invite anyone interested in looking at and discussing it. Probably this is mostly accessible for people who can look at the Python, but there may also be some usability aspects that would benefit from general, user-perspective discussion. A heavily commented sample extension can be found at https://github.com/frescobaldi-extensions/sample-extension, and at some point there will be a tutorial on that repository's Wiki pages. If my basic approach is accepted by the other developers this will allow the creation of very simple Python packages that can be loaded as extensions in Frescobaldi. They will have access to the whole functionality that is available within Frescobaldi, but of course using this will require the knowledge, so it won't be trivial for everybody to create their own extensions (but it'll be a simpler task than it is now to find *someone* to create extensions, e.g. as a commission). What I've found so far (which was one of the motivations to actually do something) is that Frescobaldi is a perfect environment to place some project management GUIs into, which the extension API will make much simpler. Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: problème pour l’installation de Frescobaldi 3.0 et de lilypond 2.19.82 / problem for the installation of Frescobaldi 3.0 and lilypond 2.19.82
> On 19 Nov 2018, at 06:07, Gilles QUESNE wrote: > > Bonjour à tous. > J’utilise High Sierra version 10.13.6 sur un iMac (27 pouces, mi-2011) > Processeur 3,1 GHz Intel Core i5 > Mémoire 6 Go 1333 MHz DDR3 > Disque de démarrage OS X Base System > Graphisme AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 Mo > > Je dois vous signaler que, suite au dysfonctionnement de la touche backspace > (qui n’efface ni le caractère précédent, ni le caractère suivant), je viens > de reformater complètement le disque "OS X Base System" ainsi que le disque > extérieur qui servait de "Time Machine". > Malheureusement, à la première installation de la version « Lion », qui était > nécessaire pour reconstruire High Sierra, ce trouble, de la touche « > Backspace », était toujours présent. > Serait-il possible qu’un logiciel malveillant, malgré l’effacement de toutes > les données, soit resté incrusté quelque part dans "OS X Base System" ? Ce > qui pourrait expliquer l’échec de l’installation de Llilypond et de > frescobaldi. > Comme je vous le disais, je rencontre un problème pour l’installation de > Frescobald 3.0 ainsi que de lilypond 2.19.82 > Le Dossier MacPort contenant frescobaldi.app qui se trouvait, avant mon > formatage, ne s’est pas installé dans « Applications » ! > Voici ce que j’obtiens en utilisant le Terminal en introduisant les commandes > préconisées sur le site frescobaldi.org > Pourriez-vous, s’il vous plaît, m’apporter votre aide ? > > __ > Hello everyone. > I use High Sierra version 10.13.6 on an iMac (27 inches, mid-2011) > Intel Core i5 3.1 GHz processor > Memory 6 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 > OS X Base System Boot Disk > AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MB Graphics > > I must tell you that, due to the dysfunction of the backspace key (which does > not erase the previous character or the next character), I just completely > reformat the "OS X Base System" disk and the external disk that was used as > "Time Machine ». > Unfortunately, at the first installation of the "Lion" version, which was > needed to rebuild High Sierra, this trouble, the "Backspace" touch, was still > present. > Could it be possible that malware, despite the erasure of all data, remained > embedded somewhere in "OS X Base System"? This could explain the failure of > the installation of Llilypond and frescobaldi. > As I said, I have a problem installing Frescobald 3.0 and lilypond 2.19.82 > The MacPort folder containing frescobaldi.app that was, before my formatting, > did not get installed in "Applications »! > Here is what I get using the Terminal by introducing the commands recommended > on the site frescobaldi.org > Could you, please, bring me your help? > __ Pardon me for suggesting it, but have you tried using a different keyboard? Michael ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
problème pour l’installation de Frescobaldi 3.0 et de lilypond 2.19.82 / problem for the installation of Frescobaldi 3.0 and lilypond 2.19.82
Bonjour à tous. J’utilise High Sierra version 10.13.6 sur un iMac (27 pouces, mi-2011) Processeur 3,1 GHz Intel Core i5 Mémoire 6 Go 1333 MHz DDR3 Disque de démarrage OS X Base System Graphisme AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 Mo Je dois vous signaler que, suite au dysfonctionnement de la touche backspace (qui n’efface ni le caractère précédent, ni le caractère suivant), je viens de reformater complètement le disque "OS X Base System" ainsi que le disque extérieur qui servait de "Time Machine". Malheureusement, à la première installation de la version « Lion », qui était nécessaire pour reconstruire High Sierra, ce trouble, de la touche « Backspace », était toujours présent. Serait-il possible qu’un logiciel malveillant, malgré l’effacement de toutes les données, soit resté incrusté quelque part dans "OS X Base System" ? Ce qui pourrait expliquer l’échec de l’installation de Llilypond et de frescobaldi. Comme je vous le disais, je rencontre un problème pour l’installation de Frescobald 3.0 ainsi que de lilypond 2.19.82 Le Dossier MacPort contenant frescobaldi.app qui se trouvait, avant mon formatage, ne s’est pas installé dans « Applications » ! Voici ce que j’obtiens en utilisant le Terminal en introduisant les commandes préconisées sur le site frescobaldi.org <http://frescobaldi.org/> Pourriez-vous, s’il vous plaît, m’apporter votre aide ? __ Hello everyone. I use High Sierra version 10.13.6 on an iMac (27 inches, mid-2011) Intel Core i5 3.1 GHz processor Memory 6 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 OS X Base System Boot Disk AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MB Graphics I must tell you that, due to the dysfunction of the backspace key (which does not erase the previous character or the next character), I just completely reformat the "OS X Base System" disk and the external disk that was used as "Time Machine ». Unfortunately, at the first installation of the "Lion" version, which was needed to rebuild High Sierra, this trouble, the "Backspace" touch, was still present. Could it be possible that malware, despite the erasure of all data, remained embedded somewhere in "OS X Base System"? This could explain the failure of the installation of Llilypond and frescobaldi. As I said, I have a problem installing Frescobald 3.0 and lilypond 2.19.82 The MacPort folder containing frescobaldi.app that was, before my formatting, did not get installed in "Applications »! Here is what I get using the Terminal by introducing the commands recommended on the site frescobaldi.org Could you, please, bring me your help? __ 1) sudo port install frescobaldi Réponse : Last login: Mon Nov 19 04:36:27 on ttys000 iMac-de-Gilles:~ gillesndrianaherizo$ sudo port install frescobaldi Password: ---> Computing dependencies for frescobaldiError: Unable to determine location of a macOS SDK. Error: Unable to execute port: can't read "configure.sdkroot": Unable to determine location of a macOS SDK. iMac-de-Gilles:~ gillesndrianaherizo$ 2) sudo port install frescobaldi -app Réponse : Last login: Mon Nov 19 06:28:20 on ttys000 iMac-de-Gilles:~ gillesndrianaherizo$ sudo port install frescobaldi -app Password: Error: Requested variants "" do not match those the build was started with: "+app". Error: Please use the same variants again, or run 'port clean frescobaldi' first to remove the existing partially completed build. Error: Follow https://guide.macports.org/#project.tickets to report a bug. Error: Processing of port frescobaldi failed iMac-de-Gilles:~ gillesndrianaherizo$ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: purple highlight in Frescobaldi
Thanks-in my case it was Ctrl-B instead of Ctrl-V. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2018, at 3:26 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > > > > Am 27. Oktober 2018 08:59:30 MESZ schrieb Andrew Bernard > : >> Hello Joseph, >> >> Something that tricked me for a long time also. Many people don't >> realize >> F. has a 'mark current line' function, accessible from the View menu, >> or >> Ctrl-B by default. It's a useful feature for bookmarking lines of >> interest. >> You can have more than one mark. When you move off the line, it's >> highlighted in purple, just as you say. There is a 'clear all marks' >> function int he View menu as well. >> >> Once you know about this, it's really useful, I find. > > It's easy to hit ctrl-b instead of ctrl-m, for example... > >> >> Andrew > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: purple highlight in Frescobaldi
Thanks, Andrew; issue solved. > On Oct 27, 2018, at 2:59 AM, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > > From: Andrew Bernard <mailto:andrew.bern...@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: purple highlight in Frescobaldi > > Hello Joseph, > > Something that tricked me for a long time also. Many people don't realize > F. has a 'mark current line' function, > > Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: purple highlight in Frescobaldi
Am 27. Oktober 2018 08:59:30 MESZ schrieb Andrew Bernard : >Hello Joseph, > >Something that tricked me for a long time also. Many people don't >realize >F. has a 'mark current line' function, accessible from the View menu, >or >Ctrl-B by default. It's a useful feature for bookmarking lines of >interest. >You can have more than one mark. When you move off the line, it's >highlighted in purple, just as you say. There is a 'clear all marks' >function int he View menu as well. > >Once you know about this, it's really useful, I find. It's easy to hit ctrl-b instead of ctrl-m, for example... > >Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: purple highlight in Frescobaldi
Hello Joseph, Something that tricked me for a long time also. Many people don't realize F. has a 'mark current line' function, accessible from the View menu, or Ctrl-B by default. It's a useful feature for bookmarking lines of interest. You can have more than one mark. When you move off the line, it's highlighted in purple, just as you say. There is a 'clear all marks' function int he View menu as well. Once you know about this, it's really useful, I find. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fwd: purple highlight in Frescobaldi
On 10/26/2018 7:10 PM, Joseph Austin wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Joseph Austin <mailto:drtechda...@gmail.com>>
*Subject: **purple highlight in Frescobaldi*
*Date: *October 26, 2018 at 5:56:16 PM EDT
*To: *ilypond-u...@gnu.org <mailto:ilypond-u...@gnu.org>
A line of music entered in Frescobaldi was highlighted in purple:
what does this signify?
There was no error message in the log,
and the rendering appears to be as intended.
\language "english"
...
previous line:
r4 d ef d | d2 g, | r4 c d c | c2 f, | \break
Highlighted line:
r4 f g bf | ef ef2 d4 | \noBreak ef8 d ef d ef4 d | \noBreak 1~
| < bf f> |
Frescobaldi 2.20.0
Lilypond 2.19.80
Mac OS 10.13.4
Joe Austin
Hello,
I copied that code into Frescobaldi and see no highlighting. Are you
sure the line itself is not just the currently selected line?
\language "english"
{
r4 d ef d | d2 g, | r4 c d c | c2 f, | \break
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Fwd: purple highlight in Frescobaldi
> Begin forwarded message: > > From: Joseph Austin > Subject: purple highlight in Frescobaldi > Date: October 26, 2018 at 5:56:16 PM EDT > To: ilypond-u...@gnu.org > > A line of music entered in Frescobaldi was highlighted in purple: > what does this signify? > There was no error message in the log, > and the rendering appears to be as intended. > > \language "english" > ... > previous line: > r4 d ef d | d2 g, | r4 c d c | c2 f, | \break > > Highlighted line: > r4 f g bf | ef ef2 d4 | \noBreak ef8 d ef d ef4 d | \noBreak 1~ | < bf > f> | > > Frescobaldi 2.20.0 > Lilypond 2.19.80 > Mac OS 10.13.4 > > Joe Austin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
On Sun 30 Sep 2018 at 16:49:13 (+0100), peter.gen...@sunscales.myzen.co.uk wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:10:25 -0700 > From: Aaron Hill mailto:lilyp...@hillvisions.com> > > > > An Access Violation has nothing to do with permissions as was stated > > earlier. This error code is specific to virtual memory management. > > > > Most often, this points to an error in programming logic such as a NULL > > pointer access but it could be any attempt to read from and or write to a > > virtual memory address that is invalid for the running process. > > > > Based on threads earlier in the year, it would seem the Windows build of > > LilyPond is known to have some gnarly and difficult to source issues with > > memory management. While it can often run without error, certain constructs > > in input will result in an AV. In fact, it is one of the reasons why I > > stopped using the Windows build in favor of running the Linux version > > through the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL). Also, it would seem there > > are very few and/or constrained resources for debugging this sort of thing, > > as the principal developers for LilyPond would seem to be mostly > > Linux-based. > > > > Setting aside all that for a moment, Peter mentioned possible issues > > manifesting in other software, and also that the input file in question has > > worked before. So the underlying issue most likely is caused by a recent > > change to the system. The fact that closing other running apps helped once > > would make me think that there is an issue with excessive memory > > consumption. Programs that do not handle out-of-memory conditions well can > > often run afoul of an AV. > > > > @Peter: Would you kindly verify a few things? > > - Does LilyPond work at all? That is, are you only noticing issues with > > particular input files or does it fail the same way even for simple inputs? > > Also, is this issue occurring when building through Frescobaldi, or does it > > also occur if you just launch LilyPond manually? > > - Can you reproduce these issues when running LilyPond after a clean reboot > > of the machine while running as little else as possible? > > - Since this issue seems to impact two devices, have you installed anything > > recently on both machines? Also, have you made any configuration changes > > that would have applied to both devices? > > Sorry to be so long - I have been tangled up in Windows10. > > First I have no issues with Lilypond or Frescobaldi. Clean reboots have > removed MOST of the issues still one thing caught me out see below. > > No configuration or download issues. But as usual file sharing on the local > ethernet was spannered after the restores and continues to be here today and > gone tomorrow. > > The desktop needed a Windows10 style destructive restore losing my Outlook > data files and all the Outlook pop and smtp data ( grrr) as well as a raft > of other software. Who is it that relies only on Windows Store Apps!?. > > I take your point and was coming to a similar conclusion. I suspect the > root of the problem may lie in the structure of the file index in Windows. > There are two different observations. > > a.Somehow unbeknown to me I have got both onedrive and dropbox lurking > about in the file index. This can lead to a file pointer effectively > pointing to an empty folder (null) which can produce the above error > message. I ended up with duplicate folder trees in and out of onedrive and > one set of folders appears empty of files. > b.Secondly and possibly related some files were not accessible > (permissions) and it was impossible to alter the permissions. > c.Could both a and b be the result of a corrupt file index? > d.The above is based on observation since I am ignorant of how the > file index is created and where it is stored and how onedrive or dropbox > interact with it. It sounds to me as if you're grasping at straws here. I also find it difficult to follow your terminology. How would you know where file pointers are pointing, why an empty folder should appear as "null", and why programs handling empty folders should throw access violation errors or error -1073741819. Point a. Switch off file sharing and networking: you should be able to produce scores without requiring either. Point b. Any system should have files that are inaccessible to users without becoming root/superuser (appropriate to the system). Without knowing which files and where they're located, this observation is not helpful. Points c and d. If you're worried about the state of the filesystem "structure" (as opposed to the files' contents), you should run
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:10:25 -0700 From: Aaron Hill mailto:lilyp...@hillvisions.com> > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10 Message-ID: < <mailto:13ae051fc3a736b35fd74c732d87f...@hillvisions.com> 13ae051fc3a736b35fd74c732d87f...@hillvisions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Folks, An Access Violation has nothing to do with permissions as was stated earlier. This error code is specific to virtual memory management. Most often, this points to an error in programming logic such as a NULL pointer access but it could be any attempt to read from and or write to a virtual memory address that is invalid for the running process. Based on threads earlier in the year, it would seem the Windows build of LilyPond is known to have some gnarly and difficult to source issues with memory management. While it can often run without error, certain constructs in input will result in an AV. In fact, it is one of the reasons why I stopped using the Windows build in favor of running the Linux version through the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL). Also, it would seem there are very few and/or constrained resources for debugging this sort of thing, as the principal developers for LilyPond would seem to be mostly Linux-based. Setting aside all that for a moment, Peter mentioned possible issues manifesting in other software, and also that the input file in question has worked before. So the underlying issue most likely is caused by a recent change to the system. The fact that closing other running apps helped once would make me think that there is an issue with excessive memory consumption. Programs that do not handle out-of-memory conditions well can often run afoul of an AV. @Peter: Would you kindly verify a few things? - Does LilyPond work at all? That is, are you only noticing issues with particular input files or does it fail the same way even for simple inputs? Also, is this issue occurring when building through Frescobaldi, or does it also occur if you just launch LilyPond manually? - Can you reproduce these issues when running LilyPond after a clean reboot of the machine while running as little else as possible? - Since this issue seems to impact two devices, have you installed anything recently on both machines? Also, have you made any configuration changes that would have applied to both devices? -- Aaron Hill Hi Aaron Sorry to be so long - I have been tangled up in Windows10. First I have no issues with Lilypond or Frescobaldi. Clean reboots have removed MOST of the issues still one thing caught me out see below. No configuration or download issues. But as usual file sharing on the local ethernet was spannered after the restores and continues to be here today and gone tomorrow. The desktop needed a Windows10 style destructive restore losing my Outlook data files and all the Outlook pop and smtp data ( grrr) as well as a raft of other software. Who is it that relies only on Windows Store Apps!?. I take your point and was coming to a similar conclusion. I suspect the root of the problem may lie in the structure of the file index in Windows. There are two different observations. a. Somehow unbeknown to me I have got both onedrive and dropbox lurking about in the file index. This can lead to a file pointer effectively pointing to an empty folder (null) which can produce the above error message. I ended up with duplicate folder trees in and out of onedrive and one set of folders appears empty of files. b. Secondly and possibly related some files were not accessible (permissions) and it was impossible to alter the permissions. c. Could both a and b be the result of a corrupt file index? d. The above is based on observation since I am ignorant of how the file index is created and where it is stored and how onedrive or dropbox interact with it. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
Hello Andrew I am sure my issue is neither Frescobaldi or Lilypond related. It is due to some alteration to the file permissions structure on the PCs which showed itself after a Windows update. It may or may not be due to the update. I managed to restore functionality on the laptop via a system restore. This has not been possible on the Desktop. I had been attempting to mess with permissions on that machine and this may have prevented the restore. In any event I am sure the problems are not related to Lily/Fresco. Thanks for all the valued suggestions. From: Andrew Bernard Sent: 28 September 2018 06:05 To: Peter Gentry Cc: lilypond-user Mailinglist Subject: Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10 Hi Peter, Not sure if this is helpful at this stage, but with lilypond 2.19.82 and Frescobaldi 3.0.1 on Windows 10 version1803 (OS Build 17134.320) all works fine. Sometimes it helps to know all is working for somebody else. My result would tend to indicate it is a local problem for you. Are you installing all the W10 updates? There was one just this morning. I find it is pretty important to be up to the minute for all sorts of reasons. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
Hi Peter, Not sure if this is helpful at this stage, but with lilypond 2.19.82 and Frescobaldi 3.0.1 on Windows 10 version1803 (OS Build 17134.320) all works fine. Sometimes it helps to know all is working for somebody else. My result would tend to indicate it is a local problem for you. Are you installing all the W10 updates? There was one just this morning. I find it is pretty important to be up to the minute for all sorts of reasons. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
Folks, An Access Violation has nothing to do with permissions as was stated earlier. This error code is specific to virtual memory management. Most often, this points to an error in programming logic such as a NULL pointer access but it could be any attempt to read from and or write to a virtual memory address that is invalid for the running process. Based on threads earlier in the year, it would seem the Windows build of LilyPond is known to have some gnarly and difficult to source issues with memory management. While it can often run without error, certain constructs in input will result in an AV. In fact, it is one of the reasons why I stopped using the Windows build in favor of running the Linux version through the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL). Also, it would seem there are very few and/or constrained resources for debugging this sort of thing, as the principal developers for LilyPond would seem to be mostly Linux-based. Setting aside all that for a moment, Peter mentioned possible issues manifesting in other software, and also that the input file in question has worked before. So the underlying issue most likely is caused by a recent change to the system. The fact that closing other running apps helped once would make me think that there is an issue with excessive memory consumption. Programs that do not handle out-of-memory conditions well can often run afoul of an AV. @Peter: Would you kindly verify a few things? - Does LilyPond work at all? That is, are you only noticing issues with particular input files or does it fail the same way even for simple inputs? Also, is this issue occurring when building through Frescobaldi, or does it also occur if you just launch LilyPond manually? - Can you reproduce these issues when running LilyPond after a clean reboot of the machine while running as little else as possible? - Since this issue seems to impact two devices, have you installed anything recently on both machines? Also, have you made any configuration changes that would have applied to both devices? -- Aaron Hill ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
On 9/27/2018 11:44 AM, Peter Gentry wrote: Original Message- From: Karlin High Sent: 27 September 2018 15:00 To: Peter Gentry ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10 On 9/27/2018 7:58 AM, Peter Gentry wrote: I believe that there was a Windows update that downloaded on the Desktop (in daily use) first and only subsequently on the Laptop. > Is it too obvious to conclude that there was something in the last > update around permissions that is causing the issue. No, I'd say that's not at all too obvious. In my experience, Windows systems are less stable when an update is awaiting a restart to finish its install. I'd suggest doing a manual check for updates and then a restart. Make sure it completely got over them. Apologies if you've already done all that. And, which version of Windows 10 is this? (Win-key + R, winver, Enter) If it's not 1803, and your situation doesn't have a reason to avoid the upgrade, I'd say get the upgrade. If something's gone sideways with Windows internals, there's a chance the upgrade might set things right. (In fairness, there's ALSO a remote chance it could break other things... Microsoft and their too-often Win10 upgrades... mumble mumble, rant suppressed.) I'd also wonder about hardware diagnostics. But since it sounds like this problem suddenly came up on 2 different machines at once, a hardware problem seems a lot less likely. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA Yup 1803 fully up to date ; hardware diagnostics all pass. Still baffled. Hi Peter, Windows 10 is horrendous when it comes to permissions. There are so many issues that cause users grief. Everything from ownership conflicts, desktop permissions, etc. You already re-installed the programs, great. You're up to date otherwise on the system, awesome. But Windows 10 still is going to complain and make your life frustrating...sorry Questions: 1) What is the exact location/path of your LilyPond install? 2) What is the exact location/path of your Frescobaldi install? 3) What are the folder permissions for those paths? Who has full access? Who owns the directories? 4) Perhaps try un-installing all Lily/Fresco and re-install but explicitly place them in a user-owned 'safe' location (i.e. NOT program files) 5) Try running as admin after install into safe location. Success? New error in log? 6) Can you try, as a long shot, just to see if you can run your Frescobaldi project without errors in SAFE MODE? (can't hurt to try) 7) Did you manually install Ghostscript? If so, where and what version? (I suggest installing it manually as a test) https://www.ghostscript.com/download/gsdnld.html 8) Don't give up :) Good luck Peter! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
On 9/27/2018 10:44 AM, Peter Gentry wrote: Yup 1803 fully up to date ; hardware diagnostics all pass. Still baffled. Did hardware diagnostics include CHKDSK? That includes a check for the file system's security descriptors. And how about System File Checker? In Admin command prompt or Admin PowerShell, sfc /scannow Does temporarily disabling antivirus or security software make a difference? Doubtful, I think, but stranger things have happened. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
Original Message- From: Karlin High Sent: 27 September 2018 15:00 To: Peter Gentry ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10 On 9/27/2018 7:58 AM, Peter Gentry wrote: > I believe that there was a Windows update that downloaded on the > Desktop (in daily use) first and only subsequently on the Laptop. > Is it too obvious to conclude that there was something in the last > update around permissions that is causing the issue. No, I'd say that's not at all too obvious. In my experience, Windows systems are less stable when an update is awaiting a restart to finish its install. I'd suggest doing a manual check for updates and then a restart. Make sure it completely got over them. Apologies if you've already done all that. And, which version of Windows 10 is this? (Win-key + R, winver, Enter) If it's not 1803, and your situation doesn't have a reason to avoid the upgrade, I'd say get the upgrade. If something's gone sideways with Windows internals, there's a chance the upgrade might set things right. (In fairness, there's ALSO a remote chance it could break other things... Microsoft and their too-often Win10 upgrades... mumble mumble, rant suppressed.) I'd also wonder about hardware diagnostics. But since it sounds like this problem suddenly came up on 2 different machines at once, a hardware problem seems a lot less likely. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA Yup 1803 fully up to date ; hardware diagnostics all pass. Still baffled. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
On Thu 27 Sep 2018 at 15:17:18 (+0100), Peter Gentry wrote: > From: David Wright > Sent: 27 September 2018 14:25 > > On Thu 27 Sep 2018 at 14:15:52 (+0200), Anders Eriksson wrote: > > > On 2018-09-27 13:09, Peter Gentry wrote: > > > > > > > > In the last couple of days both Desktop and Laptop machines have > > > > stopped compiling files and producing one line in the log. > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > *Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.81 > > > > [Keler-Bela-SERENATA-VENEZIANA.ly]...* > > > > > > > > *Exited with return code -1073741819.* > > > > > > > > > > > The Error code c005 is the code for an *access violation > > > *-1073741819**is the decimal representation of the hexadecimal c005. > > > > > > If you turn on Verbose output (in Layout Control Options in > > > Frescobaldi) you will get more information and there might be a clue > > > on what Lilypond can't access. > > > > > > Probably some access rights that is not allowing read or write... > > > > I very much doubt it. > > > > IINM the last thread on this was last April; perhaps start at > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-04/msg5.html > > > > Did this problem arise after you'd made some change to your systems? > > Perhaps an upgrade somewhere? Maybe guile, ghostscript, … (and python has been added to that list by Andrew.) > No luck there David same log output after selecting verbose. It must be > somewhere much earlier. I tried "take access" of the .ly file but no joy > (already owned by me as admin anyway) > > Previous post in the archive don't shed much light. Trying to check my own > archive ran into the same access issue (a clue?) > > When I try to alter permissions the Allow boxes are all greyed out, I can > only remove permissions Hey ho Well, the OP of the April reference above has not AFAICT been back here, so we can't ask them what the eventual outcome was. But others who have posted similar errors seem to have been able to fix things and they then reappear on the list, but we don't usually get to hear how they managed to cope. For example: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-10/msg00285.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-03/msg00138.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-07/msg00303.html and I think you posted http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-03/msg00171.html What was the outcome here? Cheers, David. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
On 9/27/2018 7:58 AM, Peter Gentry wrote: I believe that there was a Windows update that downloaded on the Desktop (in daily use) first and only subsequently on the Laptop. > Is it too obvious to conclude that there was something in the last > update around permissions that is causing the issue. No, I'd say that's not at all too obvious. In my experience, Windows systems are less stable when an update is awaiting a restart to finish its install. I'd suggest doing a manual check for updates and then a restart. Make sure it completely got over them. Apologies if you've already done all that. And, which version of Windows 10 is this? (Win-key + R, winver, Enter) If it's not 1803, and your situation doesn't have a reason to avoid the upgrade, I'd say get the upgrade. If something's gone sideways with Windows internals, there's a chance the upgrade might set things right. (In fairness, there's ALSO a remote chance it could break other things... Microsoft and their too-often Win10 upgrades... mumble mumble, rant suppressed.) I'd also wonder about hardware diagnostics. But since it sounds like this problem suddenly came up on 2 different machines at once, a hardware problem seems a lot less likely. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
-Original Message- From: David Wright Sent: 27 September 2018 14:25 To: Anders Eriksson Cc: Peter Gentry ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10 On Thu 27 Sep 2018 at 14:15:52 (+0200), Anders Eriksson wrote: > On 2018-09-27 13:09, Peter Gentry wrote: > > > > In the last couple of days both Desktop and Laptop machines have > > stopped compiling files and producing one line in the log. > > > > ** > > > > *Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.81 > > [Keler-Bela-SERENATA-VENEZIANA.ly]...* > > > > *Exited with return code -1073741819.* > > > > > The Error code c005 is the code for an *access violation > *-1073741819**is the decimal representation of the hexadecimal c005. > > If you turn on Verbose output (in Layout Control Options in > Frescobaldi) you will get more information and there might be a clue > on what Lilypond can't access. > > Probably some access rights that is not allowing read or write... I very much doubt it. IINM the last thread on this was last April; perhaps start at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-04/msg5.html Did this problem arise after you'd made some change to your systems? Perhaps an upgrade somewhere? Maybe guile, ghostscript, … Cheers, David. No luck there David same log output after selecting verbose. It must be somewhere much earlier. I tried "take access" of the .ly file but no joy (already owned by me as admin anyway) Previous post in the archive don't shed much light. Trying to check my own archive ran into the same access issue (a clue?) When I try to alter permissions the Allow boxes are all greyed out, I can only remove permissions Hey ho ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
On Thu 27 Sep 2018 at 23:07:53 (+1000), Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hi Anders, > > That assumes it is a big endian 32 bit int. Is that always correct on > Windows? I guess I am asking is lilypond 32 bit on Windows? Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, … > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 22:16, Anders Eriksson wrote: > > The Error code c005 is the code for an > > *access violation *-1073741819 is the decimal representation of the > > hexadecimal c005. Cheers, David. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
On Thu 27 Sep 2018 at 14:15:52 (+0200), Anders Eriksson wrote: > On 2018-09-27 13:09, Peter Gentry wrote: > > > > In the last couple of days both Desktop and Laptop machines have > > stopped compiling files and producing one line in the log. > > > > ** > > > > *Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.81 > > [Keler-Bela-SERENATA-VENEZIANA.ly]...* > > > > *Exited with return code -1073741819.* > > > > > The Error code c005 is the code for an *access violation > *-1073741819**is the decimal representation of the hexadecimal c005. > > If you turn on Verbose output (in Layout Control Options in > Frescobaldi) you will get more information and there might be a clue > on what Lilypond can't access. > > Probably some access rights that is not allowing read or write... I very much doubt it. IINM the last thread on this was last April; perhaps start at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-04/msg5.html Did this problem arise after you'd made some change to your systems? Perhaps an upgrade somewhere? Maybe guile, ghostscript, … Cheers, David. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
Hi Peter, Just tried 2.19.82 on an up to the minute W10 machine and all works fine. Would that version be worth trying? Could it be some clash with Python on your system? Lilypond has ti bundled, but maybe you did not check that box on installation? Just an idea. Andrew On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 21:10, Peter Gentry wrote: > In the last couple of days both Desktop and Laptop machines have stopped > compiling files and producing one line in the log. > > > > *Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.81 > [Keler-Bela-SERENATA-VENEZIANA.ly]...* > > *Exited with return code -1073741819.* > > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
Hi Anders, That assumes it is a big endian 32 bit int. Is that always correct on Windows? I guess I am asking is lilypond 32 bit on Windows? Andrew On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 22:16, Anders Eriksson wrote: > > The Error code c005 is the code for an > *access violation *-1073741819 is the decimal representation of the > hexadecimal c005. > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
I should add that I suspect this is a permissions problem not related to any changes in Lilypond/Fresco as such. The first time it cropped up on the Desktop I closed some windows progs that were running (I think it was outlook and possibly one other) and the error no longer occurred. Next time on Desktop it re-occurred and no other user apps were running - I switched to Laptop and no error. Next day errors on both machines. I believe that there was a Windows update that downloaded on the Desktop (in daily use) first and only subsequently on the Laptop. Unrelated? I also find that an Outlook archive pst file saved on an external drive is now inaccessible (no permission) ?? Is it too obvious to conclude that there was something in the last update around permissions that is causing the issue. I have Home versions so no access to policies. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
On 2018-09-27 13:09, Peter Gentry wrote: In the last couple of days both Desktop and Laptop machines have stopped compiling files and producing one line in the log. ** *Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.81 [Keler-Bela-SERENATA-VENEZIANA.ly]...* *Exited with return code -1073741819.* The Error code c005 is the code for an *access violation *-1073741819**is the decimal representation of the hexadecimal c005. If you turn on Verbose output (in Layout Control Options in Frescobaldi) you will get more information and there might be a clue on what Lilypond can't access. Probably some access rights that is not allowing read or write... ** ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
Am 27.09.2018 um 13:09 schrieb Peter Gentry: I will check through my archives and lily archives – does anyone have any suggestions as to how to proceed to debug this issue? No, but you can safely assume this error is from LilyPond, not from Frescobaldi. URs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi Log Error -1073741819 on Windows10
In the last couple of days both Desktop and Laptop machines have stopped compiling files and producing one line in the log. Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.81 [Keler-Bela-SERENATA-VENEZIANA.ly]... Exited with return code -1073741819. I have no problems for some time and the above file used to compile without error. I think something similar has happened in the past but cannot remember the solution - I have re-installed both Lilypond and Frecobaldi. There was the usual one time long pause on the laptop (?fonts) but in both cases the error message promptly. I will check through my archives and lily archives - does anyone have any suggestions as to how to proceed to debug this issue? Thanks Peter Gentry ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] convert-ly don't work in 3.0.1 in Windows
Importing MusicXML also does nothing! Is there a log somewhere, nothing is displayed in the log window... // Anders On 2018-09-11 16:24, Urs Liska wrote: Am 11.09.2018 um 02:06 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 10.09.2018 um 19:07 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 10. September 2018 18:29:32 MESZ schrieb Federico Bruni : ... OK, I have put my hands on the code that calls convert-ly (https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/ab9cda16d96564a86fd2580c05d3ec86c63b7e51) . It turns out that indeed Frescobaldi just invokes 'convert-ly' (with the absolute path, according to the current LilyPond version) without any notion of Python2/Python3. On Linux this is a shell script that explicitly starts the Python bundled with LilyPond, I don't know what exactly happens with this on Windows, but I think it *should* work, since it relies on what is bundled with LilyPond, not the Python3 from Frescobaldi. I think I'd need more information to give a better opinion. Best Urs One question: IIUC this should not only affect convert-ly, but also importing MusicXML, MIDI or ABC. Could someone check that, please? Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] convert-ly don't work in 3.0.1 in Windows
Il giorno mar 11 set 2018 alle 16:24, Urs Liska ha scritto: One question: IIUC this should not only affect convert-ly, but also importing MusicXML, MIDI or ABC. Could someone check that, please? Yes, just tried to import from MIDI and I got a silent fail. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] convert-ly don't work in 3.0.1 in Windows
Il giorno lun 10 set 2018 alle 18:29, Federico Bruni ha scritto: The best fix would be make LilyPond convert-ly work on python3 as well... Fixing the single file may be relatively easier. The problem is porting GUB from python2.4 to python2.7. See this PR 5 year old (2013): https://github.com/gperciva/gub/pull/6#issuecomment-24477663 Perhaps Frescobaldi may bundle a py2+py3 version of these scripts? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] convert-ly don't work in 3.0.1 in Windows
Il giorno mar 11 set 2018 alle 2:06, Urs Liska ha scritto: This is exactly a spot I'm currently working on (how Frescobaldi handles external jobs). I will have a look into how convert-ly is called too. OK, I have put my hands on the code that calls convert-ly (https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/ab9cda16d96564a86fd2580c05d3ec86c63b7e51) . It turns out that indeed Frescobaldi just invokes 'convert-ly' (with the absolute path, according to the current LilyPond version) without any notion of Python2/Python3. On Linux this is a shell script that explicitly starts the Python bundled with LilyPond, I don't know what exactly happens with this on Windows, but I think it *should* work, since it relies on what is bundled with LilyPond, not the Python3 from Frescobaldi. No, it cannot work in Windows, because Linux installers provide the lilypond-wrapper.LANGUAGE bash scripts, while there's not such a thing for Windows. It's the problem I'm currently trying to work around to make lilypond-invoke-editor work on Windows. It's a GUB problem, see: https://github.com/gperciva/gub/blob/master/sourcefiles/lilypond-sharhead.sh#L208 $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/convert-ly lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 1 ago 16.06 /usr/local/bin/convert-ly -> /usr/local/bin/lilypond-wrapper.python $ cat /usr/local/bin/lilypond-wrapper.python #!/bin/sh export PYTHONPATH="/usr/local/lilypond/usr/lib/lilypond/current/python:/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/python:$PYTHONPATH" export GUILE_LOAD_PATH="/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current" export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/lilypond/usr/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" me=`basename $0` exec "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/python" "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/$me" "$@" ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] convert-ly don't work in 3.0.1 in Windows
Am 11.09.2018 um 02:06 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 10.09.2018 um 19:07 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 10. September 2018 18:29:32 MESZ schrieb Federico Bruni : ... OK, I have put my hands on the code that calls convert-ly (https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/ab9cda16d96564a86fd2580c05d3ec86c63b7e51) . It turns out that indeed Frescobaldi just invokes 'convert-ly' (with the absolute path, according to the current LilyPond version) without any notion of Python2/Python3. On Linux this is a shell script that explicitly starts the Python bundled with LilyPond, I don't know what exactly happens with this on Windows, but I think it *should* work, since it relies on what is bundled with LilyPond, not the Python3 from Frescobaldi. I think I'd need more information to give a better opinion. Best Urs One question: IIUC this should not only affect convert-ly, but also importing MusicXML, MIDI or ABC. Could someone check that, please? Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] convert-ly don't work in 3.0.1 in Windows
Am 10.09.2018 um 19:07 schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 10. September 2018 18:29:32 MESZ schrieb Federico Bruni :
Hi Anders
I confirm the problem on Windows 7.
Detailed versions:
Frescobaldi: 3.0.1
Python: 3.5.2
python-ly: 0.9.4
Qt: 5.8.0
PyQt: 5.8.1
sip: 4.19.1
poppler: 0.52.0
python-poppler-qt: 0.24.2
OS: Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
I wonder if any Windows user using Frescobaldi 3 can confirm it. That's
why I've added lilypond-user in Cc.
My **guess** is that Frescobaldi is trying to use the bundled python3
to run convert-ly (which is a LilyPond file) and this is going to fail.
It does even on Linux:
$ python3 /usr/bin/convert-ly /home/fede/tmp/lilypond/converting.ly
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/convert-ly", line 52, in
import lilylib as ly
File "/usr/share/lilypond/2.19.82/python/lilylib.py", line 238
print log[0]
^
SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'. Did you mean
print(log[0])?
The best fix would be make LilyPond convert-ly work on python3 as
well...
Even though Frescobaldi should handle better this kind of errors and at
least print some information instead of being silent.
This is exactly a spot I'm currently working on (how Frescobaldi handles
external jobs). I will have a look into how convert-ly is called too.
OK, I have put my hands on the code that calls convert-ly
(https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/commit/ab9cda16d96564a86fd2580c05d3ec86c63b7e51)
.
It turns out that indeed Frescobaldi just invokes 'convert-ly' (with the
absolute path, according to the current LilyPond version) without any
notion of Python2/Python3.
On Linux this is a shell script that explicitly starts the Python
bundled with LilyPond,
I don't know what exactly happens with this on Windows, but I think it
*should* work, since it relies on what is bundled with LilyPond, not the
Python3 from Frescobaldi.
I think I'd need more information to give a better opinion.
Best
Urs
Urs
Best
Federico
In the meanwhile, you may install the latest Python 2.7 (put a tick to
add python to PATH) and run convert-ly in PowerShell. See for example:
PS C:\Users\fede\Documents> python.exe 'C:\Program Files
(x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py' .\convert-test.ly
convert-ly.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.19.28
convert-ly.py: Processing `.\convert-test.ly'...
Applying conversion: 2.17.0, 2.17.4, 2.17.5, 2.17.6, 2.17.11, 2.17.14,
2.17.15, 2.17.18, 2.17.19, 2.17.20, 2.17.2
.27, 2.17.29, 2.17.97, 2.18.0, 2.19.2, 2.19.7, 2.19.11, 2.19.16,
2.19.22, 2.19.24, 2.19.28
\version "2.19.28"
{
\tuplet 3/2 { c8 d e }
}
Il giorno dom 9 set 2018 alle 9:36, andis.eriks...@gmail.com ha
scritto:
Hello,
I just updated from version 2 to the latest version 3 for Windows
(Frescobaldi.Setup.3.0.0-2.exe)
When I try to use convert-ly nothing happens!
The dialog shows up as usual, with the current version and the new
version, but that's it!
If I run convert.ly in the Lilypond bin directory then it works...
What's wrong?
// Anders
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Re: [Frescobaldi] convert-ly don't work in 3.0.1 in Windows
Am 10. September 2018 18:29:32 MESZ schrieb Federico Bruni :
>Hi Anders
>
>I confirm the problem on Windows 7.
>Detailed versions:
>
>Frescobaldi: 3.0.1
>Python: 3.5.2
>python-ly: 0.9.4
>Qt: 5.8.0
>PyQt: 5.8.1
>sip: 4.19.1
>poppler: 0.52.0
>python-poppler-qt: 0.24.2
>OS: Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
>
>I wonder if any Windows user using Frescobaldi 3 can confirm it. That's
>
>why I've added lilypond-user in Cc.
>
>My **guess** is that Frescobaldi is trying to use the bundled python3
>to run convert-ly (which is a LilyPond file) and this is going to fail.
>
>It does even on Linux:
>
>$ python3 /usr/bin/convert-ly /home/fede/tmp/lilypond/converting.ly
>Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/bin/convert-ly", line 52, in
>import lilylib as ly
> File "/usr/share/lilypond/2.19.82/python/lilylib.py", line 238
>print log[0]
>^
>SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'. Did you mean
>print(log[0])?
>
>The best fix would be make LilyPond convert-ly work on python3 as
>well...
>Even though Frescobaldi should handle better this kind of errors and at
>
>least print some information instead of being silent.
>
This is exactly a spot I'm currently working on (how Frescobaldi handles
external jobs). I will have a look into how convert-ly is called too.
Urs
>Best
>Federico
>
>In the meanwhile, you may install the latest Python 2.7 (put a tick to
>add python to PATH) and run convert-ly in PowerShell. See for example:
>
>
>PS C:\Users\fede\Documents> python.exe 'C:\Program Files
>(x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py' .\convert-test.ly
>convert-ly.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.19.28
>
>convert-ly.py: Processing `.\convert-test.ly'...
>Applying conversion: 2.17.0, 2.17.4, 2.17.5, 2.17.6, 2.17.11, 2.17.14,
>2.17.15, 2.17.18, 2.17.19, 2.17.20, 2.17.2
>.27, 2.17.29, 2.17.97, 2.18.0, 2.19.2, 2.19.7, 2.19.11, 2.19.16,
>2.19.22, 2.19.24, 2.19.28
>
>
>\version "2.19.28"
>
>{
> \tuplet 3/2 { c8 d e }
>
>}
>
>
>
>
>Il giorno dom 9 set 2018 alle 9:36, andis.eriks...@gmail.com ha
>scritto:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just updated from version 2 to the latest version 3 for Windows
>> (Frescobaldi.Setup.3.0.0-2.exe)
>> When I try to use convert-ly nothing happens!
>>
>> The dialog shows up as usual, with the current version and the new
>> version, but that's it!
>>
>> If I run convert.ly in the Lilypond bin directory then it works...
>>
>>
>>
>> What's wrong?
>>
>> // Anders
>> --
>> Frescobaldi homepage: http://www.frescobaldi.org/
>> Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi
>> Issue tracker: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues
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Re: [Frescobaldi] convert-ly don't work in 3.0.1 in Windows
Hi Anders
I confirm the problem on Windows 7.
Detailed versions:
Frescobaldi: 3.0.1
Python: 3.5.2
python-ly: 0.9.4
Qt: 5.8.0
PyQt: 5.8.1
sip: 4.19.1
poppler: 0.52.0
python-poppler-qt: 0.24.2
OS: Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
I wonder if any Windows user using Frescobaldi 3 can confirm it. That's
why I've added lilypond-user in Cc.
My **guess** is that Frescobaldi is trying to use the bundled python3
to run convert-ly (which is a LilyPond file) and this is going to fail.
It does even on Linux:
$ python3 /usr/bin/convert-ly /home/fede/tmp/lilypond/converting.ly
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/convert-ly", line 52, in
import lilylib as ly
File "/usr/share/lilypond/2.19.82/python/lilylib.py", line 238
print log[0]
^
SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'. Did you mean
print(log[0])?
The best fix would be make LilyPond convert-ly work on python3 as
well...
Even though Frescobaldi should handle better this kind of errors and at
least print some information instead of being silent.
Best
Federico
In the meanwhile, you may install the latest Python 2.7 (put a tick to
add python to PATH) and run convert-ly in PowerShell. See for example:
PS C:\Users\fede\Documents> python.exe 'C:\Program Files
(x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py' .\convert-test.ly
convert-ly.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.19.28
convert-ly.py: Processing `.\convert-test.ly'...
Applying conversion: 2.17.0, 2.17.4, 2.17.5, 2.17.6, 2.17.11, 2.17.14,
2.17.15, 2.17.18, 2.17.19, 2.17.20, 2.17.2
.27, 2.17.29, 2.17.97, 2.18.0, 2.19.2, 2.19.7, 2.19.11, 2.19.16,
2.19.22, 2.19.24, 2.19.28
\version "2.19.28"
{
\tuplet 3/2 { c8 d e }
}
Il giorno dom 9 set 2018 alle 9:36, andis.eriks...@gmail.com ha scritto:
Hello,
I just updated from version 2 to the latest version 3 for Windows
(Frescobaldi.Setup.3.0.0-2.exe)
When I try to use convert-ly nothing happens!
The dialog shows up as usual, with the current version and the new
version, but that's it!
If I run convert.ly in the Lilypond bin directory then it works...
What's wrong?
// Anders
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Re: Frescobaldi testing requested
On 9-9-2018 08:58, Urs Liska wrote: I found the problem, a pretty stupid programming error. It *had* worked at some point so I didn't always check again all options ... It should be fixed now on the main dev/urs/refactor-job branch. Indeed, works as expected now. If you find further issues please report them at https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1100 instead of this list, it's more reliable when all the discussion takes place in one place. Will do. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi testing requested
Am 08.09.2018 um 09:59 schrieb Partitura Organum: On 7-9-2018 09:48, Urs Liska wrote: Please pull and checkout the branch dev/urs/refactor-job-test-windows. This includes two test prints on the command line to check what code is actually reached and the value(s) of some variables. Is anything printed with that when you use Engrave (custom)? Urs Before I could test the new branche, somehow Ctrl-Shift-M suddenly did work. Seemingly. I then noticed Frescobaldi produces a PDF, irrespective of what is asked. ... I found the problem, a pretty stupid programming error. It *had* worked at some point so I didn't always check again all options ... It should be fixed now on the main dev/urs/refactor-job branch. If you find further issues please report them at https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1100 instead of this list, it's more reliable when all the discussion takes place in one place. Urs Auke ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi testing requested
On 7-9-2018 09:48, Urs Liska wrote: Please pull and checkout the branch dev/urs/refactor-job-test-windows. This includes two test prints on the command line to check what code is actually reached and the value(s) of some variables. Is anything printed with that when you use Engrave (custom)? Urs Before I could test the new branche, somehow Ctrl-Shift-M suddenly did work. Seemingly. I then noticed Frescobaldi produces a PDF, irrespective of what is asked. Below the output when asked for a PNG (with the refactor-job-test-windows branche). Verwerken van 'D:/Lilypond/Sorge, Georg Andreas/Sorge, Ein Lamlein geht.ly' Ontleden... Vertolken van muziek...[8][16][24][32][40][48][48] Voorbewerken van grafische objecten... Zoeken naar het ideale aantal pagina's... Muziek wordt passend gemaakt voor 2 of 3 pagina's... Tekenen van systemen... Opmaakuitvoer naar './tmp-lilypond-ZoZPRv'... Converteren naar 'Sorge, Ein Lamlein geht.pdf'... Verwijderen van './tmp-lilypond-ZoZPRv'... Gelukt: compilatie is met succes voltooid Succesvol beëindigd in 2.2". As this is in Dutch it is probably not very readable for most people... :-) The meaningful line is: "Converteren naar 'Sorge, Ein Lammlein geht.pdf' " I then checked my Linux installation. It produces the same result (with the most recent refactor-job branche). Frescobaldi from master does what it is expected to do: produce a PNG, both on Windows and on Linux. Below two screenshots: the first of the dialog with the refactor-job branche; the second of the dialog with the master-branche. Both from the Linux-version. Somehow the commandline is not filled correctly. As the Linux-version is run from a virtual machine on my Windows desktop, this could still be Windows related... Auke ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi testing requested
Am 06.09.2018 um 21:10 schrieb Partitura Organum: This is not what happens for me. Could you specify the OS/distribution you're running? And maybe provide a screenshot of the dialog. I could imagine that some combination of options would be able to produce unwanted behaviour. I'm running it on Windows. Here's a screenshot of the dialog. ... I doesn't matter which option I choose, PDF, PNG, SVG or some of the other options. Starting Lilypond results in nothing. The dialog disappears and that's it. When I run it on Linux, it works as expected. So it's somehow Windows-related. Please pull and checkout the branch dev/urs/refactor-job-test-windows. This includes two test prints on the command line to check what code is actually reached and the value(s) of some variables. Is anything printed with that when you use Engrave (custom)? Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi testing requested
Am 06.09.2018 um 21:10 schrieb Partitura Organum: This is not what happens for me. Could you specify the OS/distribution you're running? And maybe provide a screenshot of the dialog. I could imagine that some combination of options would be able to produce unwanted behaviour. I'm running it on Windows. Here's a screenshot of the dialog. ... I doesn't matter which option I choose, PDF, PNG, SVG or some of the other options. Starting Lilypond results in nothing. The dialog disappears and that's it. When I run it on Linux, it works as expected. So it's somehow Windows-related. What would be the path to LilyPond on your Linux system? My first suspicion would be that it chokes on the spaces in the file name (which of course should be fixed in Frescobaldi). Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi testing requested
This is not what happens for me. Could you specify the OS/distribution you're running? And maybe provide a screenshot of the dialog. I could imagine that some combination of options would be able to produce unwanted behaviour. I'm running it on Windows. Here's a screenshot of the dialog. I doesn't matter which option I choose, PDF, PNG, SVG or some of the other options. Starting Lilypond results in nothing. The dialog disappears and that's it. When I run it on Linux, it works as expected. So it's somehow Windows-related. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi testing requested
Am 04.09.2018 um 23:08 schrieb Partitura Organum: On 4-9-2018 17:36, Urs Liska wrote: Hi to all those who use Frescobaldi from the Git repository, I've done some refactoring of the code handling LilyPond jobs, as a preparation for further work. So far there *should* be no differences in behaviour or performance, but I think my code introduces plenty opportunity for new bugs and unwanted side-effects. Therefore I'd be glad about anyone who tests https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1100. As there are no new functions involved it's "only" about stability and errors, with anything that involves external processes like LilyPond, the regular engrave modes, the score wizard preview etc. (the only thing I've deliberately not fixed *now* is the "show available fonts" dialog). Thanks Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user I worked this evening with the refactor-job-branche. I encountered one glitch: Engrave (adapted) does not work. Pressing Ctrl+Shift+M brings up the familiar pop up screen. But then clicking 'Start Lilypond' does exactly nothing. I had to switch back to the master branch to be able to create some PNG's. This is not what happens for me. Could you specify the OS/distribution you're running? And maybe provide a screenshot of the dialog. I could imagine that some combination of options would be able to produce unwanted behaviour. Urs Other than that, no problems so far. Regarsd, Auke ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi testing requested
On 4-9-2018 17:36, Urs Liska wrote: Hi to all those who use Frescobaldi from the Git repository, I've done some refactoring of the code handling LilyPond jobs, as a preparation for further work. So far there *should* be no differences in behaviour or performance, but I think my code introduces plenty opportunity for new bugs and unwanted side-effects. Therefore I'd be glad about anyone who tests https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1100. As there are no new functions involved it's "only" about stability and errors, with anything that involves external processes like LilyPond, the regular engrave modes, the score wizard preview etc. (the only thing I've deliberately not fixed *now* is the "show available fonts" dialog). Thanks Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user I worked this evening with the refactor-job-branche. I encountered one glitch: Engrave (adapted) does not work. Pressing Ctrl+Shift+M brings up the familiar pop up screen. But then clicking 'Start Lilypond' does exactly nothing. I had to switch back to the master branch to be able to create some PNG's. Other than that, no problems so far. Regarsd, Auke ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi testing requested
Hi to all those who use Frescobaldi from the Git repository, I've done some refactoring of the code handling LilyPond jobs, as a preparation for further work. So far there *should* be no differences in behaviour or performance, but I think my code introduces plenty opportunity for new bugs and unwanted side-effects. Therefore I'd be glad about anyone who tests https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1100. As there are no new functions involved it's "only" about stability and errors, with anything that involves external processes like LilyPond, the regular engrave modes, the score wizard preview etc. (the only thing I've deliberately not fixed *now* is the "show available fonts" dialog). Thanks Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
call for testing new replace mode in Frescobaldi Midi Input
Hi folks Dmitriy contributed a new feature for MIDI input in Frescobaldi v2 some months ago and I recently rebased his patch on master to make it work on Frescobaldi v3 and make sure the review process could start. As Frescobaldi developers may not have a MIDI instrument to test it (I know Urs doesn't have one), I would welcome comments from anyone who can. I've written a simple wiki page to set up a MIDI keyboard in Linux: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/MIDI-input-on-Linux Pull request discussion is here: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1039 You should checkout the following branch: git pull https://github.com/fedelibre/frescobaldi.git git checkout midi-replace-mode-rebased Instructions on how to run Frescobaldi from source is also on github wiki. Remember that replace mode works only when the cursor has at least a note at the right. When you want to enter the first music via MIDI input, Re-pitch mode should be unchecked. Thanks Federico ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] MIDI playback setup
Il giorno mar 7 ago 2018 alle 1:19, Simon Albrecht <"simon.albrecht"@mail.de> ha scritto: On 06.08.2018 17:34, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: Is libportmidi0 installed? Great catch, that was the culprit! Should that be added to the wiki page? Federico? Added to the wiki. Thanks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Running Frescobaldi from Git on Windows
Am 13.08.2018 um 21:47 schrieb eBooks: On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Urs Liska wrote: I have written a Wiki page on how Frescobaldi can be run from its Git repository on Windows: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Run-Frescobaldi-3-from-Git-on-Windows and I would like Windows users to test that and report any issues. I did it on Windows 7 and using all the default options the various installers suggested. The point in running Frescobaldi from the Git repository is the ability to test new features before release or to run a custom version provided for a project by someone ;-) Is there something similar for macOS users? I have no idea. There are a number of Mac installation instructions (including translations) on the Wiki, but I think they all cover the "release" installation. I *think* that the approach taken in the Windows guide should also work on Mac (pretend you use a released package and replace all the Python files in it - but from what I "know" about Apple's policies I wouldn't bet that they haven't done anything to prevent that kind of "abuse". Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Running Frescobaldi from Git on Windows
On 13-8-2018 19:05, Urs Liska wrote: I have written a Wiki page on how Frescobaldi can be run from its Git repository on Windows: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Run-Frescobaldi-3-from-Git-on-Windows and I would like Windows users to test that and report any issues. I did it on Windows 7 and using all the default options the various installers suggested. The point in running Frescobaldi from the Git repository is the ability to test new features before release or to run a custom version provided for a project by someone ;-) Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Works like a charm. Tested on Windows 10. Regards, Auke ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Running Frescobaldi from Git on Windows
On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > > I have written a Wiki page on how Frescobaldi can be run from its Git > repository on Windows: > https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Run-Frescobaldi-3-from-Git-on-Windows > and I would like Windows users to test that and report any issues. I did it > on Windows 7 and using all the default options the various installers > suggested. > > The point in running Frescobaldi from the Git repository is the ability to > test new features before release or to run a custom version provided for a > project by someone ;-) Is there something similar for macOS users? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Running Frescobaldi from Git on Windows
I have written a Wiki page on how Frescobaldi can be run from its Git repository on Windows: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Run-Frescobaldi-3-from-Git-on-Windows and I would like Windows users to test that and report any issues. I did it on Windows 7 and using all the default options the various installers suggested. The point in running Frescobaldi from the Git repository is the ability to test new features before release or to run a custom version provided for a project by someone ;-) Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi print music
On Fri 10 Aug 2018 at 16:54:24 (+0200), Gianmaria Lari wrote: > To avoid having one or two staves on last page, I use often page-count. > Unfortunately this often cuts the bottom of the page (the tagline or some > notes). > > Today I tried to understand better the problem, checking the printable area > of the printer, playing with annotate-spacing, margin etc,. And I > discovered that when I print inside Frescobaldi, the resulting output page > is shifted down 5mm and shifted right 5mm. If I print the same output page > from adobe acrobat the output is perfect. Does anyone have seen the same > thing? > > I'm running frescobaldi 3.01, lilypond 2.19.82 on windows 10. For me, printer drivers are like the dark arts of black magic. Ink, toner and paper are expensive so I always print documents directly from a PDF file, ie a simple lp -d bw8500cups "$@" for example. With my own LP output, I use my library of paper and margin includes that prevent straying out of the printer's printable area. Otherwise, I check PDFs with my bash function that superimposes a frame around the printable area. (A lot of other people's documents use international paper sizes like A4.) Whenever I start using a new printer (or after major software changes), I print off a modified copy¹ of the ancient LaTeX testpage.tex. (It needs editing to be able to handle non-USletter paper properly.) It prints a page with a frame 1-inch away from the edges of the page, and each margin contains an inch/mm ruler. This makes it easy to read off where the ink doesn't reach the edge of the paper, in turn allowing the frame size to be set appropriately in my bash function mentioned above. As for printing from applications like acrobat, that's ok as long as you can tame their "helpful" facilities like fit-to-page which can be counterproductive. ¹ \pdfpagewidth → \pagewidth and \pdfpageheight → \pageheight in https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/139951/pdflatex-testpage-produces-wrong-margins-for-a4paper Cheers, David. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi print music
Thank you Ben and Michael. Good to know! g. On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 21:03, Michael Rivers wrote: > I have always had formatting problems printing from Frescobaldi too. The > built-in PDF printer in Windows 10 works just fine for me. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi print music
I have always had formatting problems printing from Frescobaldi too. The built-in PDF printer in Windows 10 works just fine for me. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi print music
On 8/10/2018 10:54 AM, Gianmaria Lari wrote: To avoid having one or two staves on last page, I use often page-count. Unfortunately this often cuts the bottom of the page (the tagline or some notes). Today I tried to understand better the problem, checking the printable area of the printer, playing with annotate-spacing, margin etc,. And I discovered that when I print inside Frescobaldi, the resulting output page is shifted down 5mm and shifted right 5mm. If I print the same output page from adobe acrobat the output is perfect. Does anyone have seen the same thing? I'm running frescobaldi 3.01, lilypond 2.19.82 on windows 10. Thank you, g. Hi G, I can't explain as to the why, but I can say that I have experienced similar oddities when printing direct from Frescobaldi / Windows 10. I just find that it's always easier and less of a challenge to simply print to PDF, and then print it outside of Frescobaldi using default Windows print functions. When I'm on Windows I print from SumatraPDF and it's always worked fine for me. Acrobat is likely your best route at this point. Sorry! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
frescobaldi print music
To avoid having one or two staves on last page, I use often page-count. Unfortunately this often cuts the bottom of the page (the tagline or some notes). Today I tried to understand better the problem, checking the printable area of the printer, playing with annotate-spacing, margin etc,. And I discovered that when I print inside Frescobaldi, the resulting output page is shifted down 5mm and shifted right 5mm. If I print the same output page from adobe acrobat the output is perfect. Does anyone have seen the same thing? I'm running frescobaldi 3.01, lilypond 2.19.82 on windows 10. Thank you, g. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] MIDI playback setup
On 06.08.2018 17:34, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: Is libportmidi0 installed? Great catch, that was the culprit! Should that be added to the wiki page? Federico? Thanks, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] MIDI playback setup
On 08/06, Simon Albrecht wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I just took another shot at configuring MIDI playback in Frescobaldi. Before > the last ubuntu reinstall I performed, I had the good fortune that it worked > by simply starting `timidity -iA` on the command line, then refreshing MIDI > output ports in Frescobaldi’s MIDI options and selecting one. > > This doesn’t work anymore – I can start timidity -iA but Frescobaldi ‘can’t > see it’. > > So I went to > <https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/MIDI-playback-on-Linux> and > followed what seemed to be the simplest instructions: installed fluidsynth, > qsynth, and the soundfont, started the Qsynth GUI, selected pulseaudio as > audio driver – but the result is the same: apparently no MIDI output port is > visible to Frescobaldi. > > What can I do? > > Thanks in advance, best regards > Simon Is libportmidi0 installed? Mason signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
[Frescobaldi] MIDI playback setup
Hello everybody, I just took another shot at configuring MIDI playback in Frescobaldi. Before the last ubuntu reinstall I performed, I had the good fortune that it worked by simply starting `timidity -iA` on the command line, then refreshing MIDI output ports in Frescobaldi’s MIDI options and selecting one. This doesn’t work anymore – I can start timidity -iA but Frescobaldi ‘can’t see it’. So I went to <https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/MIDI-playback-on-Linux> and followed what seemed to be the simplest instructions: installed fluidsynth, qsynth, and the soundfont, started the Qsynth GUI, selected pulseaudio as audio driver – but the result is the same: apparently no MIDI output port is visible to Frescobaldi. What can I do? Thanks in advance, best regards Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Two Frescobaldi suggestions
Hello Ben, Yes, I can use the MIDI player slide bar alright, but typing a number would be easier and more accurate if one often does that. JM > Le 9 juil. 2018 à 13:54, Ben a écrit : > > On 7/8/2018 3:52 PM, Urs Liska wrote: >> >> Am 8. Juli 2018 20:15:09 MESZ schrieb Menu Jacques >> <mailto:imj-...@bluewin.ch>: >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> Frescobaldi is quite a great tool, and I often think it could even be >>> enhanced in the following ways: >>> >>> - add a command to select all the skips in the window or current >>> selection. This would help locate some recognition problems when >>> scanning PDF files with tools such as PhotoScore Ultimate; >> How do you think this could/should be selected? We don't have multiple >> selection, and I don't think we can manage that. >> Maybe a command "go to next skip"? >> >> This makes me think: the find tool allows jumping through search results. >> What about adding something like a content search? like "search all skips", >> "all explicit beams", triplets, custom functions... >> >> I'm not sure how that could practically look like, but it might be a nice >> enhancement. >> >>> - in the MIDI player, let the user select the measure to start from by >>> typing its number on the keyboard. >> This is a longstanding wish, but IIRC it's far from trivial. >> >> Urs > > JM, > > I wish for something like that as well in Frescobaldi, but at least you can > 'seek' relatively easily with the MIDI player window and get to the spot for > playback. Have you tried that? > > I think I included a walk through on how to MIDI-seek in one of my video > tutorials from a while ago. It was very handy once I discovered it in > Frescobaldi. :) > > > > >>> HTH! >>> >>> JM >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> lilypond-user mailing list >>> lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> >>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >>> <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user> >> ___ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >> <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user> > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Two Frescobaldi suggestions
On 7/8/2018 3:52 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 8. Juli 2018 20:15:09 MESZ schrieb Menu Jacques : Hello folks, Frescobaldi is quite a great tool, and I often think it could even be enhanced in the following ways: - add a command to select all the skips in the window or current selection. This would help locate some recognition problems when scanning PDF files with tools such as PhotoScore Ultimate; How do you think this could/should be selected? We don't have multiple selection, and I don't think we can manage that. Maybe a command "go to next skip"? This makes me think: the find tool allows jumping through search results. What about adding something like a content search? like "search all skips", "all explicit beams", triplets, custom functions... I'm not sure how that could practically look like, but it might be a nice enhancement. - in the MIDI player, let the user select the measure to start from by typing its number on the keyboard. This is a longstanding wish, but IIRC it's far from trivial. Urs JM, I wish for something like that as well in Frescobaldi, but at least you can 'seek' relatively easily with the MIDI player window and get to the spot for playback. Have you tried that? I think I included a walk through on how to MIDI-seek in one of my video tutorials from a while ago. It was very handy once I discovered it in Frescobaldi. :) HTH! JM ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Two Frescobaldi suggestions
Am 8. Juli 2018 20:15:09 MESZ schrieb Menu Jacques : >Hello folks, > >Frescobaldi is quite a great tool, and I often think it could even be >enhanced in the following ways: > > - add a command to select all the skips in the window or current >selection. This would help locate some recognition problems when >scanning PDF files with tools such as PhotoScore Ultimate; How do you think this could/should be selected? We don't have multiple selection, and I don't think we can manage that. Maybe a command "go to next skip"? This makes me think: the find tool allows jumping through search results. What about adding something like a content search? like "search all skips", "all explicit beams", triplets, custom functions... I'm not sure how that could practically look like, but it might be a nice enhancement. > > - in the MIDI player, let the user select the measure to start from by >typing its number on the keyboard. This is a longstanding wish, but IIRC it's far from trivial. Urs > >HTH! > >JM > > >___ >lilypond-user mailing list >lilypond-user@gnu.org >https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Two Frescobaldi suggestions
Hello folks, Frescobaldi is quite a great tool, and I often think it could even be enhanced in the following ways: - add a command to select all the skips in the window or current selection. This would help locate some recognition problems when scanning PDF files with tools such as PhotoScore Ultimate; - in the MIDI player, let the user select the measure to start from by typing its number on the keyboard. HTH! JM ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: scheme with Frescobaldi
Knute Snortum writes: > Late to the party, but I just wanted to add that if you want a nice REPL > for Scheme, click on https://repl.it and select Scheme as the language. Sort of more representative would be lilypond scheme-sandbox -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
