Re: GDP: Opinions sought on markup command snippets
Hi everybody, I'd like to thank David and the two Trevors for their input on this issue. I've decided to follow the approach of examples in isolation for the majority of cases, plus fuller examples where warranted. Once I've added a few snippets, we'll get a clearer idea of what's likely to work best, so please don't hesitate to comment further once I've started. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: Opinions sought on markup command snippets
Hi Trevor, On 03/04/2008, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My first thought was "stuff is, in general, almost always better with an > actual score example." But, clicking back through B.6 and rereading, I think > exactly the opposite conclusion is warranted here. I think the > examples-in-isolation approach (#2) will do perfectly. I'm certainly gravitating towards the second option. :) As a first draft, it's probably the best solution, and I think it fits in better with the purpose of appendix B.6 as a quick reference for users who have already familiarized themselves with text markup. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: Opinions sought on markup command snippets
Hi David, On 02/04/2008, David Fedoruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello: > > In general I prefer the first option. However, may I propose a compromise? > > I always find examples *in context* the most valuable. That said, it > is sometimes difficult to tell where the example command illustrated > and the surrounding context begin and leave off. If there were some > way of delineating these things it would be most helpful! > > Thanx In the case of musical examples, I'd tend to agree with you; but surely the simplest method of delineating markup commands would be to strip away all the extraneous material, thus providing a concise demonstration of their properties? Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: Opinions sought on markup command snippets
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'm just about to start work on creating snippets for each of the > \markup commands listed in appendix B.6. Excellent! Embedded examples will be *extremely* useful ... > Before I begin, I'd like to > canvass opinion on how they should be demonstrated. > > As I see it, there are two options: > > 1. Continue in the same vein as the two existing examples (\raise and > \super), where each command is part of a markup in a score; > > 2. Show each command in isolation, i.e., within a bald \markup block, > displaying text marks only. > > Naturally, the latter option would be much quicker to implement, but > is a more artificial way of demonstrating text markup since most users > will be incorporating text into scores. It is also likely to look less > pleasing than minimal score snippets, since they would serve as a > regular break between the commands. > > I welcome your thoughts as to the best way forward. My first thought was "stuff is, in general, almost always better with an actual score example." But, clicking back through B.6 and rereading, I think exactly the opposite conclusion is warranted here. I think the examples-in-isolation approach (#2) will do perfectly. It seems that getting LilyPond markup down has been, for me, a lot like getting LaTeX markup down -- learn to visualize the *boxes* and slots that stuff fills. I haven't really needed markup to attach to a staff to learn that lesson ... it's been enough to work with examples in otherwise empty scores. So I would vote for #2 as being the best option and likely to give the cleanest look to B.6; it's gravy that #2 also happens to be quicker to author! Trevor. -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
GDP: Opinions sought on markup command snippets
Hi everybody, I'm just about to start work on creating snippets for each of the \markup commands listed in appendix B.6. Before I begin, I'd like to canvass opinion on how they should be demonstrated. As I see it, there are two options: 1. Continue in the same vein as the two existing examples (\raise and \super), where each command is part of a markup in a score; 2. Show each command in isolation, i.e., within a bald \markup block, displaying text marks only. Naturally, the latter option would be much quicker to implement, but is a more artificial way of demonstrating text markup since most users will be incorporating text into scores. It is also likely to look less pleasing than minimal score snippets, since they would serve as a regular break between the commands. I welcome your thoughts as to the best way forward. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user