Hiding or delaying new staffs

2011-11-08 Thread Steve Downes 
I have a situation I feel there should be an answer to but cannot find it. I 
write arrangements which start with, say, 8 bars intro during which , again 
say, up to 4 front line instruments are doing nothing. I either want to 
suppress their staffs during the intro or not create them till the end of the 
intro. I can suppress the staff itself but not the clef, time sig & key sig.
 

Steve

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Re: Hiding or delaying new staffs

2011-11-08 Thread Phil Holmes 
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Downes" 

To: "lilypond-user Mailinglist" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Hiding or delaying new staffs


I have a situation I feel there should be an answer to but cannot find it. 
I write arrangements which start with, say, 8 bars intro during which , 
again say, up to 4 front line instruments are doing nothing. I either want 
to suppress their staffs during the intro or not create them till the end 
of the intro. I can suppress the staff itself but not the clef, time sig & 
key sig.


Steve


To get rid of all except piano staffs which only contain Whole Measure 
Rests, use:


\layout {
 \context {
   \RemoveEmptyStaffContext
   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
 }
}



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Re: Hiding or delaying new staffs

2011-11-08 Thread Steve Downes 
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 06:50:32PM -, Phil Holmes wrote:
> - Original Message - From: "Steve Downes"
> 
> To: "lilypond-user Mailinglist" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:46 PM
> Subject: Hiding or delaying new staffs
> 
> 
> >I have a situation I feel there should be an answer to but cannot
> >find it. I write arrangements which start with, say, 8 bars intro
> >during which , again say, up to 4 front line instruments are doing
> >nothing. I either want to suppress their staffs during the intro
> >or not create them till the end of the intro. I can suppress the
> >staff itself but not the clef, time sig & key sig.
> >
> >Steve
> 
> To get rid of all except piano staffs which only contain Whole
> Measure Rests, use:
> 
> \layout {
>  \context {
>\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
>\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
>  }
> }
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Phil Holmes
> 
> 
> 

Thanks for your very prompt reply. I had already done this & there are
2 problems with it:-

1) It leaves the clef, key sig, & time sig where the staff was at the
   beginning 

2) When I start to use the staff 8 bars later it puts it at the
   beginning of the intro. If I pad the 8 bars out with R1 * 8 | or 
   s1 * 8 | it puts the staff back in. 

So I'm back where I started.

Steve

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Re: Hiding or delaying new staffs

2011-11-08 Thread Phil Holmes 
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Downes" 

To: "Phil Holmes" 
Cc: "lilypond-user Mailinglist" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Hiding or delaying new staffs



On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 06:50:32PM -, Phil Holmes wrote:

- Original Message - From: "Steve Downes"

To: "lilypond-user Mailinglist" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Hiding or delaying new staffs


>I have a situation I feel there should be an answer to but cannot
>find it. I write arrangements which start with, say, 8 bars intro
>during which , again say, up to 4 front line instruments are doing
>nothing. I either want to suppress their staffs during the intro
>or not create them till the end of the intro. I can suppress the
>staff itself but not the clef, time sig & key sig.
>
>Steve

To get rid of all except piano staffs which only contain Whole
Measure Rests, use:

\layout {
 \context {
   \RemoveEmptyStaffContext
   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
 }
}



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Thanks for your very prompt reply. I had already done this & there are
2 problems with it:-

1) It leaves the clef, key sig, & time sig where the staff was at the
  beginning

2) When I start to use the staff 8 bars later it puts it at the
  beginning of the intro. If I pad the 8 bars out with R1 * 8 | or
  s1 * 8 | it puts the staff back in.

So I'm back where I started.

Steve



It shouldn't do this.  I've been producing scores like this correctly with 
no problems.  Can you post an example of where it's not working?


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Re: Hiding or delaying new staffs

2011-11-08 Thread -Eluze 

hi

steve downes wrote:
> 
> 
>> To get rid of all except piano staffs which only contain Whole
>> Measure Rests, use:
>> 
>> \layout {
>>  \context {
>>\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
>>\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
>>  }
>> }
> 
> Thanks for your very prompt reply. I had already done this & there are
> 2 problems with it:-
> 
> 1) It leaves the clef, key sig, & time sig where the staff was at the
>beginning 
> 
> 2) When I start to use the staff 8 bars later it puts it at the
>beginning of the intro. If I pad the 8 bars out with R1 * 8 | or 
>s1 * 8 | it puts the staff back in. 
> 
> So I'm back where I started.
> 
for me Phil's code works - what's your code?!
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Re: Hiding or delaying new staffs

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Downes 

Phil & Eluze,

Please accept my apologies.

I have found the problem & it is down to me not being careful enough
with { }.  It is now working fine.

I am new to lilypond & virtually new to compiled languages &
struggling with the level of attention to detail required.

Will try to do better.

Many thanks

Steve


On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 02:28:31PM -0800, -Eluze wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> steve downes wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> To get rid of all except piano staffs which only contain Whole
> >> Measure Rests, use:
> >> 
> >> \layout {
> >>  \context {
> >>\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
> >>\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
> >>  }
> >> }
> > 
> > Thanks for your very prompt reply. I had already done this & there are
> > 2 problems with it:-
> > 
> > 1) It leaves the clef, key sig, & time sig where the staff was at the
> >beginning 
> > 
> > 2) When I start to use the staff 8 bars later it puts it at the
> >beginning of the intro. If I pad the 8 bars out with R1 * 8 | or 
> >    s1 * 8 | it puts the staff back in. 
> > 
> > So I'm back where I started.
> > 
> for me Phil's code works - what's your code?!
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