Re: Horizontal positioning of a tempo marking on a full-measure rest
Thank you, Aaron and Xavier.
I figured that I can obtain satisfactory result with the following:
\version "2.20.0"
violinMusic = \relative c' {
\tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
\tempo \markup \italic "rit." g a b c |
\tempo "Tempo I." c b a g |
}
celloMusic = \relative c {
\clef bass
\tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
<<
{R1}
{\tempo \markup \italic "rit." s4 s s s}
>> |
<<
{R1}
{\tempo "Tempo I." s4 s s s}
>> |
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup <<
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Violin
}
\violinMusic
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Cello
}
\celloMusic
>>
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Violin
}
\violinMusic
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Cello
}
\celloMusic
}
> 2020/09/26 22:55、Aaron Hill のメール:
>
> On 2020-09-26 1:33 am, Xavier Scheuer wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 08:27, Jun Tamura wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Is there an easy way to align a tempo marking on a full-measure rest at
>> the beginning of the measure? In the following example, the “rit.” and
>> “Tempo I.” are aligned to the beginning of the measures on the score and
>> the violin part but their horizontal placements on the cello part look
>> somewhat strange.
>> Hello,
>> Tempo markings are (correctly) aligned where a first note *would be*. To
>> illustrate this look at your first example with
>> the "Metronome_mark_engraver" in both staves.
>
> Another option is to enable the debug display of paper columns. Add the
> following to the top of your file:
>
>
> \version "2.20.0"
>
> \layout {
> \context {
>\Score
>\override PaperColumn.color = #'(0.4 0.6 0.1)
>\override PaperColumn.stencil = #ly:paper-column::print
>\override NonMusicalPaperColumn.color = #'(0.7 0.2 0.5)
>\override NonMusicalPaperColumn.stencil = #ly:paper-column::print
> }
> }
>
> % . . .
>
>
> (PaperColumns will be green, and NonMusicalPaperColumns will be purple. The
> blue and red arrows visualize the ideal-distances and minimum-distances
> properties.)
>
> Attached is the output you should see. MetronomeMarks will horizontally
> align to an appropriate paper-column-interface. Note that "rit." aligns to
> PaperColumn #9 in all three systems. However also note that the spacing
> between NonMusicalPaperColumn #8 and PaperColumn #9 differ due to the
> presence (or absence) of notes.
>
> I have tried a few things but cannot reliably solve the issue of reducing the
> "ideal-distance" between columns #8 and #9 when there is just a
> MultiMeasureRest there. Xavier's recommendation of adjusting minimum-length
> seems to mainly affect the minimum-distance, making the measure wider; but
> this does not move the MetronomeMark closer to the BarLine.
>
> You could simply \tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 0) to shift the tempo marking to
> the left. Using tags would mean you could then conditionally apply this
> shift only in the cases where you need it. Consider:
>
>
> shiftTempoLeft =
> \tag shiftTempoLeft
> \tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 0)
> \etc
> % . . .
> celloMusic = \relative c {
> \clef bass
> \tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
> \shiftTempoLeft
> \tempo \markup \italic "rit." R1 |
> \shiftTempoLeft
> \tempo "Tempo I." R1
> }
> % . . .
> \score {
> \new StaffGroup <<
>\new Staff \with {
> instrumentName = Violin
>}
>\violinMusic
>\new Staff \with {
> instrumentName = Cello
>}
>\removeWithTag #'(shiftTempoLeft)
>\celloMusic
> >>
> }
> % . . .
> \score {
> \new Staff \with {
>instrumentName = Cello
> }
> \celloMusic
> }
>
>
>
> -- Aaron Hill
Re: Horizontal positioning of a tempo marking on a full-measure rest
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 08:27, Jun Tamura wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there an easy way to align a tempo marking on a full-measure rest at
the beginning of the measure? In the following example, the “rit.” and
“Tempo I.” are aligned to the beginning of the measures on the score and
the violin part but their horizontal placements on the cello part look
somewhat strange.
Hello,
Tempo markings are (correctly) aligned where a first note *would be*. To
illustrate this look at your first example with
the "Metronome_mark_engraver" in both staves.
violinMusic = \relative c' {
\tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
\tempo \markup \italic "rit." g a b c |
\tempo "Tempo I." c b a g |
}
celloMusic = \relative c {
\clef bass
\tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
\tempo \markup \italic "rit." R1 |
\tempo "Tempo I." R1
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove "Metronome_mark_engraver"
\remove "Staff_collecting_engraver"
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists "Metronome_mark_engraver"
}
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup <<
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Violin
} {
\violinMusic
}
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Cello
} {
\celloMusic
}
>>
}
Maybe you think the cello part looks strange because the measures with full
measure rest are compressed horizontally. Does it look better for you with
increased MMR length?
\score {
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Cello
} {
\celloMusic
}
\layout {
\context {
\Voice
\override MultiMeasureRest.minimum-length = #12
}
}
}
Cheers,
Xavier
--
Xavier Scheuer
Re: Horizontal positioning of a tempo marking on a full-measure rest
Hello,
After writing the message below, I realized that the “rit.” and “Tempo I.” on
the cello part were aligned to where ordinary whole rests would be placed.I
guess that if I can find a way to change the placement of a whole rest closer
to the beginning of the measure, that would also change the position of the
tempo markings. Am I correct?
Best regards,
Jun
> 2020/09/26 15:27、Jun Tamura のメール:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there an easy way to align a tempo marking on a full-measure rest at the
> beginning of the measure? In the following example, the “rit.” and “Tempo
> I.” are aligned to the beginning of the measures on the score and the violin
> part but their horizontal placements on the cello part look somewhat strange.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and best regards.
>
> Jun
>
>
> \version "2.20.0"
>
> violinMusic = \relative c' {
> \tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
> \tempo \markup \italic "rit." g a b c |
> \tempo "Tempo I." c b a g |
> }
>
> celloMusic = \relative c {
> \clef bass
> \tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
> \tempo \markup \italic "rit." R1 |
> \tempo "Tempo I." R1
> }
>
> \score {
> \new StaffGroup <<
>\new Staff \with {
> instrumentName = Violin
>}
>\violinMusic
>\new Staff \with {
> instrumentName = Cello
>}
>\celloMusic
>>>
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff \with {
>instrumentName = Violin
> }
> \violinMusic
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff \with {
>instrumentName = Cello
> }
> \celloMusic
> }
>
Horizontal positioning of a tempo marking on a full-measure rest
Hello,
Is there an easy way to align a tempo marking on a full-measure rest at the
beginning of the measure? In the following example, the “rit.” and “Tempo I.”
are aligned to the beginning of the measures on the score and the violin part
but their horizontal placements on the cello part look somewhat strange.
Thanks in advance for your help and best regards.
Jun
\version "2.20.0"
violinMusic = \relative c' {
\tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
\tempo \markup \italic "rit." g a b c |
\tempo "Tempo I." c b a g |
}
celloMusic = \relative c {
\clef bass
\tempo "Allegro" c4 d e f |
\tempo \markup \italic "rit." R1 |
\tempo "Tempo I." R1
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup <<
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Violin
}
\violinMusic
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Cello
}
\celloMusic
>>
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Violin
}
\violinMusic
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Cello
}
\celloMusic
}
