Re: How to separate these voices??
Minor, but in the interest of clarity:
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar } % Don't need ...
\layout { }
}
Knute Snortum
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM, st...@linuxsuite.org wrote:
Thanks for the hints. I've looked at them and have come up with the
following which looks a lot like the original. F. Tarrega's transcription
of
Beethoven minuet ( start of the trio ). Not sure if its the best solution
though...
http://imslp.org/wiki/6_Minuets,_WoO_10_%28Beethoven,_Ludwig_van%29
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
\new Voice { \voiceOne e2. | }
\new Voice { \voiceThree \stemDown \override NoteColumn.force-hshift =
#1.1
gis, 8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = { \voiceone } \\ { \voicetwo }
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar }
\layout { }
}
thanx - steve
2014-06-09 19:41 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
st...@linuxsuite.org writes:
Ooops sorry.
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = { \voiceone } \\ { \voicetwo }
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar }
\layout { }
}
Nesting several \\ at different levels does not work. This is one case
where you are better off using explicit voices anyway since you can then
finetune the \voiceXxx things using for shifting voices apart in the
case of collision. That gives you
I'm not overly convinced in how it is typeset, but then I don't have a
better suggestion after juggling with different presets.
--
David Kastrup
Here my code as well.
Second example gives same output as David's
Third example shows strange behaviour of the Dot. IMHO, it should flip
back to the NoteHead. There's enough space.
A bug?
\version 2.18.0
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\new Staff
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice
\relative c' {
\voiceFour
\override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1.1
gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b]
}
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
\new Staff
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceThree gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] }
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
\new Staff
\mark bug with Dots?
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice
\relative c' {
\voiceThree
\once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1.5
gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b]
}
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
Cheers,
Harm
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How to separate these voices??
Howdy!
How do I get the bass quarter notes to separate from
the middle 8ths? They are fused as 8ths, and
\override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1
shifts both the middle and bass voices?
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = \voiceone \\ \voicetwo
thanx - steve
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Re: How to separate these voices??
st...@linuxsuite.org writes:
Howdy!
How do I get the bass quarter notes to separate from
the middle 8ths? They are fused as 8ths, and
\override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1
shifts both the middle and bass voices?
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = \voiceone \\ \voicetwo
This program produces no output. Please include working minimal
examples demonstrating your problem with queries like that.
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Re: How to separate these voices??
Try putting everything in the same voice with this sort of construct
{{}\\{}\\{}}
regards,
Shane
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, st...@linuxsuite.org wrote:
Howdy!
How do I get the bass quarter notes to separate from
the middle 8ths? They are fused as 8ths, and
\override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1
shifts both the middle and bass voices?
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = \voiceone \\ \voicetwo
thanx - steve
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Re: How to separate these voices??
This program produces no output. Please include working minimal
examples demonstrating your problem with queries like that.
Ooops sorry.
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = { \voiceone } \\ { \voicetwo }
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar }
\layout { }
}
-steve
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Re: How to separate these voices??
Try putting everything in the same voice with this sort of construct
{{}\\{}\\{}}
Doesn't change anything...
-steve
regards,
Shane
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, st...@linuxsuite.org wrote:
Howdy!
How do I get the bass quarter notes to separate from
the middle 8ths? They are fused as 8ths, and
\override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1
shifts both the middle and bass voices?
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = \voiceone \\ \voicetwo
thanx - steve
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Re: How to separate these voices??
make sure you delete the unneeded voice from the score declaration.
guitar = { \voiceone }
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM, st...@linuxsuite.org wrote:
Try putting everything in the same voice with this sort of construct
{{}\\{}\\{}}
Doesn't change anything...
-steve
regards,
Shane
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, st...@linuxsuite.org wrote:
Howdy!
How do I get the bass quarter notes to separate from
the middle 8ths? They are fused as 8ths, and
\override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1
shifts both the middle and bass voices?
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = \voiceone \\ \voicetwo
thanx - steve
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Re: How to separate these voices??
st...@linuxsuite.org writes:
Ooops sorry.
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = { \voiceone } \\ { \voicetwo }
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar }
\layout { }
}
Nesting several \\ at different levels does not work. This is one case
where you are better off using explicit voices anyway since you can then
finetune the \voiceXxx things using for shifting voices apart in the
case of collision. That gives you
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c'
\new Voice {
\voiceOne
e2. | }
\new Voice {
\voiceThree
gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
voicetwo = \relative c
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = \voiceone \voicetwo
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar }
\layout { }
}
I'm not overly convinced in how it is typeset, but then I don't have a
better suggestion after juggling with different presets.
--
David Kastrup
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Re: How to separate these voices??
2014-06-09 19:41 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
st...@linuxsuite.org writes:
Ooops sorry.
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = { \voiceone } \\ { \voicetwo }
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar }
\layout { }
}
Nesting several \\ at different levels does not work. This is one case
where you are better off using explicit voices anyway since you can then
finetune the \voiceXxx things using for shifting voices apart in the
case of collision. That gives you
I'm not overly convinced in how it is typeset, but then I don't have a
better suggestion after juggling with different presets.
--
David Kastrup
Here my code as well.
Second example gives same output as David's
Third example shows strange behaviour of the Dot. IMHO, it should flip
back to the NoteHead. There's enough space.
A bug?
\version 2.18.0
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\new Staff
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice
\relative c' {
\voiceFour
\override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1.1
gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b]
}
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
\new Staff
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceThree gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] }
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
\new Staff
\mark bug with Dots?
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice
\relative c' {
\voiceThree
\once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1.5
gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b]
}
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
Cheers,
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Re: How to separate these voices??
Steve,
Ok, here's what I got your snippet to do:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n163143/polyphonic-notehead-collision-original.png
I'm not sure how my solution plays into the rest of the piece you are
working on, but this works pretty well for me:
guitar = \relative c' {
{ e2. } % voiceOne
\\
{} % voiceTwo
\\
{ e,, e'4 dis' cis } % voiceThree
\\
{ gis'8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] } % voiceFour
}
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff {
\global
\guitar
}
\layout {}
}
which results in this:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n163143/polyphonic-notehead-collision-partial-fix.png
Personally, I don't quite like how far that pushed out the e-chord in
voiceThree because of the collision with the stem and the dot in voiceOne,
so we can force the e-chord to be a little closer to look like the 2nd and
3rd quarter notes, if you prefer, by adding an override before the e-chord:
guitar = \relative c' {
{ e2. } % voiceOne
\\
{} % voiceTwo
\\
{ /*\once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #0.3*/ e,, e'4 dis' cis }
% voiceThree
\\
{ gis'8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] } % voiceFour
}
which looks like this:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n163143/polyphonic-notehead-collision-fix.png
I can't say that this would be the perfect solution, but I think adding the
override makes the timing more obvious for the performer. Hope that helps!
-Abraham
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Re: How to separate these voices??
Thanks for the hints. I've looked at them and have come up with the
following which looks a lot like the original. F. Tarrega's transcription of
Beethoven minuet ( start of the trio ). Not sure if its the best solution
though...
http://imslp.org/wiki/6_Minuets,_WoO_10_%28Beethoven,_Ludwig_van%29
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
\new Voice { \voiceOne e2. | }
\new Voice { \voiceThree \stemDown \override NoteColumn.force-hshift =
#1.1
gis, 8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = { \voiceone } \\ { \voicetwo }
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar }
\layout { }
}
thanx - steve
2014-06-09 19:41 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
st...@linuxsuite.org writes:
Ooops sorry.
\version 2.18.0
voiceone = \relative c' {
{ e2. | }
\\
{ gis,8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] | }
}
voicetwo = \relative c {
e, e' 4 dis' cis |
}
guitar = { \voiceone } \\ { \voicetwo }
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\score {
\new Staff { \global \guitar }
\layout { }
}
Nesting several \\ at different levels does not work. This is one case
where you are better off using explicit voices anyway since you can then
finetune the \voiceXxx things using for shifting voices apart in the
case of collision. That gives you
I'm not overly convinced in how it is typeset, but then I don't have a
better suggestion after juggling with different presets.
--
David Kastrup
Here my code as well.
Second example gives same output as David's
Third example shows strange behaviour of the Dot. IMHO, it should flip
back to the NoteHead. There's enough space.
A bug?
\version 2.18.0
global = {
\time 3/4
\key e \major
\clef G_8
}
\new Staff
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice
\relative c' {
\voiceFour
\override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1.1
gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b]
}
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
\new Staff
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceThree gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b] }
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
\new Staff
\mark bug with Dots?
\global
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne e2. }
\new Voice
\relative c' {
\voiceThree
\once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #1.5
gis8[ b] gis[ b] gis[ b]
}
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo e,, e' 4 dis' cis }
Cheers,
Harm
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