Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-09 Thread Malte Meyn 


Am 09.03.2017 um 09:59 schrieb Bernhard Kleine:
> The problem is with the spacing of the grace notes. Being not a
> programmer I do not find enough information in the 2.9.56 manual to do
> it by myself: The spacing of parentheses to the graces and the distance
> of the grace notes to the notes they are gracing seem not large enough.
> Thanks for your patience, Bernhard

Why don’t you use regular notes instead of grace notes? Just change the
\partial 4 to \partial 4., delete all \grace commands, and put empty
syllables in the lyrics (see code below). And then parenthesize only one
voice in every staff. font-size changes the size of the parentheses,
padding pushes the parentheses further away from the note head (to avoid
collisions with flags) and extra-offset moves them to the right (because
there is no flag at the left side) and down (to get them around tenor
*and* bass).

I used \magnifyMusic #(magstep -3) to make the notes smaller. You could
also use \once \teeny (or similar) but this doesn’t change the stem
lengths and IMO small notes with long stems look weird.

%%%
soprano = \relative c' {
  \once \override ParenthesesItem.font-size = 3
  \once \override ParenthesesItem.padding = 0.5
  \once \override ParenthesesItem.extra-offset = #'(0.25 . 0)
  \global
  \magnifyMusic #(magstep -3) \parenthesize f8 f8 g |
  a2~ a8 a  \bar "|."
}
alto= \relative c' {
  \global
  \magnifyMusic #(magstep -3) f8 f8 f |
}
tenor   = \relative c' {
  \once \override ParenthesesItem.font-size = 6
  \once \override ParenthesesItem.padding = 0.5
  \once \override ParenthesesItem.extra-offset = #'(0.25 . -0.5)
  \global
  \magnifyMusic #(magstep -3) \parenthesize a8 a8 b |
}
bass= \relative c  {
  \global
  \magnifyMusic #(magstep -3) f8 f8 f |
  f2~ f8 f
}

verseOne = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "1." _ Lie -- be ist die Macht des Him -- mels.
}
verseTwo = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "2." _ Fehlt die
}
verseThree = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "3."  Die Lieb' ist
}
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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-09 Thread Bernhard Kleine 
Am 08.03.2017 um 19:29 schrieb Bernhard Kleine:
> Obviously that is not so simple:  see the working example. One wonders
> how to add parenthesis.
>
> In addition omitting the \grace s8 in chord names makes the output even
> worth, the time indicator is repeated ofter the grace note.  BTW the
> structure is from Fresobaldi with the help of the partitur assistent.
>
> Regards Bernhard
Changing the working example as suggested by Auke and adding the \clef
bass to the tenor and bass voices,  I got this:
The problem is with the spacing of the grace notes. Being not a
programmer I do not find enough information in the 2.9.56 manual to do
it by myself: The spacing of parentheses to the graces and the distance
of the grace notes to the notes they are gracing seem not large enough.
Thanks for your patience, Bernhard
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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Engraver 



On 8-3-2017 14:43, Andrew Bernard wrote:

Hi Phil,

Yes, but how do you get a bracket around two voices as per the bass 
line in the image example given?


Andrew




\grace {\override ParenthesesItem.font-size=#6 \parenthesize f8}
instead of
\grace f8
works.

Regards,
Auke
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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Partitura Organum 



On 8-3-2017 14:43, Andrew Bernard wrote:

Hi Phil,

Yes, but how do you get a bracket around two voices as per the bass 
line in the image example given?


Andrew




\grace {\override ParenthesesItem.font-size=#6 \parenthesize f8}
instead of
\grace f8
works.

Regards,
Auke

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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Bernhard Kleine 
Obviously that is not so simple:  see the working example. One wonders
how to add parenthesis.

In addition omitting the \grace s8 in chord names makes the output even
worth, the time indicator is repeated ofter the grace note.  BTW the
structure is from Fresobaldi with the help of the partitur assistent.

Regards Bernhard

\version "2.19.49"
\language "deutsch"

global = {
  \key f \major
  \time 4/4
  \partial 4
  \autoBeamOff
}
chordNames = \chordmode {
  \global 
  \set chordNameLowercaseMinor = ##t
  \grace s8 s4 | f1|
}
soprano = \relative c' { \global \grace f8 f8 g | a2~ a8 a  \bar "|." }
alto= \relative c' { \global \grace f8 f8 f| }
tenor   = \relative c' { \global \grace a8 a8 b| }
bass= \relative c  { \global \grace f8 f8 f | f2~ f8 f }

verseOne = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "1." Lie -- be ist die Macht des Him -- mels. }
verseTwo = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "2." Fehlt die  }
verseThree = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "3."  Die_Lieb' ist }

chordsPart = \new ChordNames \chordNames
choirPart = \new ChoirStaff <<
  \new Staff \with {
instrumentName = \markup \center-column { "Sopran" "Alt" }
  } <<
\new Voice = "soprano" { \voiceOne \soprano }
\new Voice = "alto" { \voiceTwo \alto }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-affinity = #CENTER
  } \lyricsto "soprano" \verseOne
  \new Lyrics \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-affinity = #CENTER
  } \lyricsto "soprano" \verseTwo
  \new Lyrics \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-affinity = #CENTER
  } \lyricsto "soprano" \verseThree
  \new Staff \with {
instrumentName = \markup \center-column { "Tenor" "Bass" }
  } <<
\clef bass
\new Voice = "tenor" { \voiceOne \tenor }
\new Voice = "bass" { \voiceTwo \bass }
  >>
>>

\score {
  <<
\chordsPart
\choirPart
  >>
  \layout { }
}

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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread David Wright 
On Wed 08 Mar 2017 at 14:22:20 (+0100), Bernhard Kleine wrote:
> this little piece in the attachement has several difficulties: at first,
> the text does not start at the same place, secondly, there are
> parentheses in the notes I have not any idea how to set these, and
> thirdly, the grace notes should be larger than just a "vorschlagnote".

What's the line after the time signature in the lower stave?
Is it hand-written? As for that, is the undertie also?

Cheers,
David.

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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Phil Holmes 

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-notes-to-one-syllable

It's all there for you to find if you look.

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Subject: Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten


And how to have the text begin differently, which is probably how to
introduce white space?

Thanks

Bernhard


Am 08.03.2017 um 14:38 schrieb Phil Holmes:

Creating parentheses is well covered in the manuals:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#parentheses


Similarly examples of how to change note size are nearby:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#selecting-notation-font-size


HTH

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Subject: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten


Hallo,

this little piece in the attachement has several difficulties: at first,
the text does not start at the same place, secondly, there are
parentheses in the notes I have not any idea how to set these, and
thirdly, the grace notes should be larger than just a "vorschlagnote".

Any ideas and proposals wellcome.

Thanks a lot

Bernhard



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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Bernhard Kleine 
And how to have the text begin differently, which is probably how to
introduce white space?

Thanks

Bernhard


Am 08.03.2017 um 14:38 schrieb Phil Holmes:
> Creating parentheses is well covered in the manuals:
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#parentheses
>
>
> Similarly examples of how to change note size are nearby:
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#selecting-notation-font-size
>
>
> HTH
>
> -- 
> Phil Holmes
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Bernhard Kleine"
> <bernhard.kle...@gmx.net>
> To: "Lilypond-User Mailing List" <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 1:22 PM
> Subject: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten
>
>
> Hallo,
>
> this little piece in the attachement has several difficulties: at first,
> the text does not start at the same place, secondly, there are
> parentheses in the notes I have not any idea how to set these, and
> thirdly, the grace notes should be larger than just a "vorschlagnote".
>
> Any ideas and proposals wellcome.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Bernhard
>

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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Phil Holmes 
I wouldn't bother.  Parenthesising them as individual notes shows their 
optionality just as well.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Andrew Bernard 
  To: Phil Holmes 
  Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List ; Bernhard Kleine 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten


  Hi Phil,


  Yes, but how do you get a bracket around two voices as per the bass line in 
the image example given?


  Andrew




  On 9 March 2017 at 00:38, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote:

Creating parentheses is well covered in the manuals:


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#parentheses

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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Andrew Bernard 
Hi Phil,

Yes, but how do you get a bracket around two voices as per the bass line in
the image example given?

Andrew


On 9 March 2017 at 00:38, Phil Holmes  wrote:

> Creating parentheses is well covered in the manuals:
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/inside-
> the-staff#parentheses
>
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Re: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Phil Holmes 

Creating parentheses is well covered in the manuals:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#parentheses

Similarly examples of how to change note size are nearby:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#selecting-notation-font-size

HTH

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Subject: Klammern und verkleinerte Noten


Hallo,

this little piece in the attachement has several difficulties: at first,
the text does not start at the same place, secondly, there are
parentheses in the notes I have not any idea how to set these, and
thirdly, the grace notes should be larger than just a "vorschlagnote".

Any ideas and proposals wellcome.

Thanks a lot

Bernhard

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Klammern und verkleinerte Noten

2017-03-08 Thread Bernhard Kleine 
Hallo,

this little piece in the attachement has several difficulties: at first,
the text does not start at the same place, secondly, there are
parentheses in the notes I have not any idea how to set these, and
thirdly, the grace notes should be larger than just a "vorschlagnote".

Any ideas and proposals wellcome.

Thanks a lot

Bernhard

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